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| 01:22.22 | Samot | So you don't choose file storage options for voicemail in menuselect anymore? In Asterisk 17? |
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| 01:39.35 | drmessano | no? |
| 01:46.13 | Samot | The option isn't there anymore. |
| 01:46.20 | Samot | For Voicemail Storage |
| 01:48.57 | igcewieling | I think something about that is mentioned in the UPGRADE.txt ? |
| 01:53.06 | igcewieling | Yup. "New functionality introduced in Asterisk 17.0.0: The "Voicemail Build Options" section of menuselect has been removed along with the FILE_STORAGE, ODBC_STORAGE and IMAP_STORAGE menuselect options. All 3 variants of the voicemail...." |
| 01:53.33 | Samot | Yup. Just saw it. |
| 01:57.02 | Samot | Ohh and Monitor is deprecated now. |
| 01:58.25 | igcewieling | Use MixMonitor with 1 channel 8-) |
| 02:01.09 | drmessano | What is the cliff note on VM storage? All 3 build? One storage module? |
| 02:01.40 | Samot | drmessano: You select app_voicemail_odbc it sets up ODBC storage |
| 02:01.45 | Samot | You do imap, it does the same. |
| 02:02.09 | Samot | So if you select all three, it setups storage for all three types but only app_voicemail is loaded by default. |
| 02:02.09 | drmessano | Oh |
| 02:02.20 | Samot | It will still noload odbc and imap variants. |
| 02:02.43 | Samot | But the default is app_voicemail / FILE_STORAGE |
| 02:04.10 | Samot | I was just checking because Ward's Asterisk 17 upgrade is fubar'd. |
| 02:04.37 | Samot | It has a prebuilt menuselect snapshot and from what is being reported, all three voicemail options are selected. |
| 02:04.46 | Samot | And it's causing errors. |
| 02:57.54 | drmessano | hahahhah |
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| 05:04.37 | drmessano | just one doubt |
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| 12:49.41 | sibiria | when halting asterisk with "core stop gracefully", does it also prevent new *inbound* calls, and if so what's the response returned to invitations? |
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| 13:45.09 | igcewieling | sibiria: it stops new calls, I don't know what the response is when new calls come in. |
| 13:46.05 | file | 503 comes to mind, but I don't know for certain |
| 13:46.16 | wdoekes | for chan_sip, it's msg = "503 Unavailable"; |
| 13:46.18 | AsteriskRoss | I think it is 503 |
| 13:48.19 | wdoekes | for pjsip, also: pjsip_inv_end_session(session->inv_session, 503, NULL, &packet) |
| 13:52.22 | sibiria | thanks, guys |
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| 14:24.04 | Samot | Hrm. |
| 14:24.35 | Samot | I may have to come up with an alternative to FOP2 or rip into its code in the near future. |
| 14:26.11 | igcewieling | Samot: don't use the existing codebase 8-| |
| 14:34.25 | Samot | Well the continuing evolution of Asterisk since 12 has kinda killed the 3rd party space. |
| 14:34.44 | Samot | And honestly, the guys behind FOP2 aren't really embracing them. |
| 14:35.03 | Samot | They don't even have Chan_PJSIP support in Issabella. |
| 14:36.03 | file | alas, can't force change |
| 14:36.13 | Samot | Yup, I agree. |
| 14:50.24 | drmessano | I absolutely love how much the telephony space justifies lagging behind |
| 14:50.58 | wolrah | do you guys know what the relationship is between Asternic and Issabel? I know they're associated but I'm not sure what the exact deal is |
| 14:51.20 | drmessano | Rest of the world: I ansible my k8s, and I don't just run updates, I just push out new containers. |
| 14:53.44 | drmessano | Telephony: Don't update. Don't even update. Update and you're dead. They are fast. Faster than you can believe. Donât turn your back, donât look away, and donât update! Good luck. |
| 14:53.50 | wolrah | drmessano: Yeah, it's that same old problematic mindset where the thing being replaced (some old school key system) went years or decades without needing to be touched, so they want the new thing to do the same. A lot of people aren't willing to accept that internet connected systems MUST be updated, always and forever. |
| 14:55.04 | drmessano | Updates and changes are Weeping Angels |
| 14:56.36 | file | drmessano: yeah - I think part of that is telephony thinking and also (many) years ago Asterisk which wasn't what it is today |
| 14:57.33 | file | I'm quite pleased that we took Switchvox across a few versions of Asterisk 13, and then to Asterisk 16 and it was pretty uneventful |
| 14:58.13 | file | boring upgrades are nice. |
| 14:59.39 | igcewieling | Upgrades causes upset customers |
| 15:00.29 | drmessano | I'm gonna be honest with you. (When have I never not been). If people are still "in the past" with updating Asterisk, we're surely talking about the 1.2 era. 1.4 was total hell. Since 1.8, I can't say any branch has been a regression or a mess. If I was living off my experience with 1.4, ok maybe. But since? Idk.. That's been 12 years? |
| 15:00.50 | file | muchly. |
| 15:02.51 | Samot | Well I'm just looking at things now. |
| 15:02.55 | wolrah | I can't say I've had a single upgrade issue traced to Asterisk in 10 years. FreePBX, that has certainly given me headaches. The only real tricky part directly related to Asterisk was the pjsip transition definitely had some "gotchas" |
| 15:03.10 | Samot | Monitor is now deprecaated. FOP2 has _zero_ MixMonitor support. |
| 15:03.40 | drmessano | I wonder if I could offer Asterisk and FreePBX offline upgrade packages. |
| 15:03.45 | Samot | But just looking around, many of the third parties just gave up the ghost in recent years. |
| 15:03.51 | drmessano | I bet people would jump on them |
| 15:04.25 | drmessano | Base64 a shell script that copies over code and updates it. |
| 15:04.45 | drmessano | Super secret total mystery code |
| 15:04.48 | Samot | That uses sed and awk |
| 15:04.57 | Samot | And pipes everything out in one line |
| 15:05.06 | drmessano | Yes! |
| 15:06.13 | Samot | And well, FreePBX is guilty of this too. |
| 15:06.34 | Samot | I can't believe how far behind FreePBX lags with Asterisk. |
| 15:08.36 | drmessano | backs away from that, slowly |
| 15:09.15 | Samot | I wonder if the manual install pages have been update to reflect things that have changed in the last year and are how it's going to be in the future. |
| 15:09.46 | Samot | Like Asterisk 17 and up, you need to enable crap that is no longer enabled by default for FreePBX to work. |
| 15:20.14 | file | Samot: the kicker is in the great change of 12, AMI events were actually made saner/simplified |
| 15:22.16 | Samot | I know. |
| 15:23.01 | Samot | Things got improved which required change. |
| 15:23.18 | Samot | Because everything was basically the same until then. |
| 15:23.35 | Samot | AMI was updated, CDR was changed, PJSIP was added.. |
| 15:23.45 | Samot | You made their minds explode. |
| 15:25.46 | file | change comes from... within |
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| 15:25.56 | Samot | OK Hash. |
| 15:26.04 | Samot | drmessano: Oh I zinged him. |
| 15:26.18 | file | OK Boomer. |
| 15:26.23 | drmessano | Oh? |
| 15:26.34 | Samot | 11:25:47 AM <@file> change comes from... within |
| 15:26.40 | Samot | 11:25:57 AM <Samot> OK Hash. |
| 15:26.54 | drmessano | Hahahaha. Yeppppp |
| 15:27.03 | drmessano | Totally that guy |
| 15:27.29 | Samot | file: Come on, now you have to tell us about all the trippy drugs you're "on" |
| 15:27.44 | file | vitamin D, vitamin B12, and vitamin C |
| 15:27.46 | file | it's a wild combo |
| 15:28.01 | Samot | No Iron? |
| 15:28.19 | file | I get enough iron from gnawing at the chains of my desk |
| 15:28.21 | file | I mean, nah |
| 15:29.17 | Samot | Look, if you have chains on your home office desk there maybe some channels in Undernet just for you. |
| 15:37.56 | igcewieling | Now we know why his laptop camera is always covered. |
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| 18:57.52 | dangmoo | Hi |
| 18:58.33 | dangmoo | I'm having troubles hooking up Telnyx with Asterisk 16.2.1 on an Ubuntu 20 VPS. |
| 18:59.01 | dangmoo | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/jHO2FtJU |
| 19:00.05 | dangmoo | Whenever I try to make a call through Zoiper softfone (which successfully registers with Asterisk) I'm getting errors 'endpoint 'telnyx' was not found' and 'No route to destination'. |
| 19:00.25 | dangmoo | Here are my config files: |
| 19:00.25 | dangmoo | https://pastebin.com/raw/z5hqdAqa |
| 19:01.01 | dangmoo | I'm using IP authentication with Telnyx. Their support says my account is ready to make calls and no issues there. |
| 19:01.23 | dangmoo | What am I doing wrong? |
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| 19:09.43 | sibiria | for starters don't forget to set type=wizard for the endpoint as well |
| 19:10.46 | sibiria | also is "0.0.0.0-udp" a valid transport name? |
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| 19:12.21 | dangmoo | It seems so from this guide https://support.telnyx.com/en/articles/1130628-how-to-configure-an-asterisk-pbx-ip-trunk |
| 19:12.48 | dangmoo | thanks let me check the type |
| 19:13.30 | sibiria | i don't think that's correct, but do verify by "pjsip show endpoints" |
| 19:14.15 | dangmoo | Already checked that. It doesn't show telynx |
| 19:14.30 | sibiria | right, because the wizard isn't processing it |
| 19:14.39 | sibiria | because the trunk doesn't have "type=wizard" as i mentioned |
| 19:14.48 | sibiria | their config example is broken |
| 19:33.39 | dangmoo | Ok now it finds the endpoint. But it complains about that 0.0.0.0-udp .. |
| 19:34.21 | dangmoo | Whay to change it for? |
| 19:34.25 | sibiria | yeah just remove that line entirely and let pjsip pick a suitable transport on its own |
| 19:34.51 | dangmoo | Thanks checking |
| 19:36.23 | dangmoo | I'm slow since I'm under constant bot attack. That's a fresh vps installation with default setting .. |
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| 19:54.33 | exuberocity | Afternoon all. Have a quick question about an error i'm getting outbound on some 800/866 numbers but not all. "You have dialed a number that is not available from your calling area" |
| 19:55.02 | exuberocity | I have 1 system that works and 1 system that has this issue.... I've triple checked settings and they're a match. Am I missing something obvious on the system not working. |
| 20:06.04 | dangmoo | sibiria: now endpoint is found but I'm getting error |
| 20:06.07 | dangmoo | Endpoint: 'telnyx': Unable to create request with auth. No auth credentials for realm(s) 'sip.telnyx.com' in challenge. |
| 20:13.47 | igcewieling | often, not setting a realm works |
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| 21:03.35 | dangmoo | Ok all is working now thank you @sibiria |
| 22:27.11 | joako | What's a good softphone for Windows that supports multiple accounts? |
| 22:32.23 | Samot | Bria. |
| 22:39.45 | joako | Anything that's not SaaS? |
| 22:41.50 | Samot | Uhm, so you want free? |
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| 22:46.57 | joako | Free would be nice, but I prefer to pay for the software up front instead of monthly fees like Bria |
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| 22:50.53 | Deeewayne | anyone know/remember what the fix for "cannot stat '.cleancount'" build errors are? If I recall correctly, that was to force the user to run make menuselect or something, but that doesn't seem to fix it. |
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