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| 08:11.58 | icewaterman | hi, i have setup asterisk for quite a while on my router. however what bothers me is that my settings in extension.conf seem to no longer allow me to reject calls with the hangup key from my phone. what flags in DIAL() do i have to set for that to be possible? I thought it was "h" but it seems that doesnt work for me |
| 08:12.46 | icewaterman | i know that "h" would only allow hangup with "*" which doesnt seem to work either |
| 08:16.56 | icewaterman | exten => _X.,1,Dial(${ALL},60,rh) <- this is my line in extension.conf with $ALL being all the phones I have atm |
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| 16:48.29 | khobo | is there a good dial plan generator out there? |
| 16:49.44 | drmessano | Freepbx |
| 16:50.06 | khobo | oh interesting |
| 16:58.25 | Samot | You dismissed it |
| 16:58.43 | Samot | The whole RasPBX convo |
| 16:59.06 | khobo | what? i didn't see it |
| 16:59.18 | Samot | You asked about it |
| 16:59.23 | Samot | You started the convo |
| 16:59.31 | khobo | oh are you talking 1-2 weeks ago? |
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| 17:00.18 | khobo | i ended up getting a m900 6500T |
| 17:00.23 | khobo | so if its an issue i can just migrate over |
| 17:00.31 | khobo | an* |
| 17:00.45 | khobo | or maybe that's a... sometimes that confuses me |
| 17:01.13 | drmessano | eh wat |
| 17:01.25 | khobo | completed reading the vvx450 user manual |
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| 17:01.44 | khobo | working on the admin guide but its written like a hot pile of garbage |
| 17:02.08 | Samot | No it was 4 days ago |
| 17:02.45 | Samot | Is it now? How is it a hot pile of garbage? |
| 17:04.25 | khobo | one example |
| 17:04.39 | khobo | the entire manual is basically telling you about parameters |
| 17:05.00 | khobo | it takes until page 300 until they actually explain what a parameter is |
| 17:05.08 | drmessano | O.o |
| 17:05.08 | khobo | and how to actually set them |
| 17:05.09 | Samot | You mean it tells admins how to program phones? |
| 17:05.59 | drmessano | I bet nowhere in 600 pages does it define what a phone is |
| 17:06.21 | khobo | wow you guys are quite the tag team |
| 17:06.24 | drmessano | What a steaming hot pile of aborted dumpster garbage |
| 17:06.48 | khobo | really unhelpful and mean |
| 17:06.56 | Samot | Unhelpful? |
| 17:07.00 | khobo | if i'm being perfectly honest you guys both have mean streaks |
| 17:07.07 | Samot | I spent hours with you on your USB issue |
| 17:07.10 | drmessano | ...... |
| 17:07.26 | Samot | I've answered numerous questions |
| 17:07.34 | Samot | You're complaining about how many pages a manual is |
| 17:07.38 | Samot | How hard it is to read |
| 17:08.11 | drmessano | You accused him of gate keeping because he would just tell you what to put into the config |
| 17:08.17 | drmessano | Maybe grow up a little |
| 17:08.27 | drmessano | wouldnt& |
| 17:08.36 | khobo | i think the ending quote was "i know where to put it because i've read the 400 pages and you havent" |
| 17:08.39 | drmessano | Gimme a break |
| 17:09.02 | drmessano | Ok, so he stated a fact? |
| 17:09.19 | khobo | sounds like you're just wanting an argument |
| 17:09.23 | khobo | sorry |
| 17:09.25 | Samot | Wait wait. |
| 17:09.27 | Samot | I got this. |
| 17:09.33 | Samot | You're taking my comment out of context. |
| 17:09.56 | Samot | That comment was made after you said you weren't going to read it all and basically saying I should jsut tell you. |
| 17:10.02 | Samot | Because it would be like 5 seconds is all. |
| 17:10.14 | Samot | The reason it would be 5 seconds is because *I read the manual* |
| 17:10.24 | Samot | I retained knowledge. |
| 17:12.37 | khobo | sorry, oven is going off and i need to take care of that will bb in a bit |
| 17:13.12 | drmessano | "Im going to ask you a series of questions from the manual this is too long to read" |
| 17:13.27 | drmessano | "Please standby and answer them or else youre gatekeeping" |
| 17:13.59 | drmessano | Garbage, guilt trip nonsense |
| 17:14.09 | drmessano | and We did discuss FreePBX 4 days ago |
| 17:14.49 | drmessano | You made some "steaming pile of garbage" / "steak sauce" statement about not using a GUI |
| 17:15.02 | drmessano | and now it's like "Oh, freepbx" |
| 17:15.31 | drmessano | So on one hand you're arrogant and dismissive because you're gonna do it yourself |
| 17:15.44 | drmessano | Like when we told you a $30 ebay Cisco phone was a dumb idea |
| 17:16.09 | drmessano | Then you're angry because of gatekeeping when someone won't read the manual to you at bedtime |
| 17:22.13 | Samot | Well... |
| 17:22.57 | Samot | It's been a week to get a phone that basically needs to only make and answer calls do...something. Not sure what. |
| 17:23.23 | Samot | Now it's "need a dialplan generator" because Asterisk needs to be configured and setup still for the most part. |
| 17:23.40 | Samot | And this is basically a business that needs a single phone line. |
| 17:23.49 | Samot | Not a PBX |
| 17:30.48 | khobo | alright, clearly this isn't working out very well for whatever reason |
| 17:30.57 | khobo | no disrespect but if you guys don't mind throw me on your ignore list |
| 17:30.59 | khobo | and i'm doing the same |
| 17:31.11 | drmessano | heh |
| 17:31.16 | khobo | and that way we're not bothered by each other |
| 17:31.25 | khobo | pretty elegant fix |
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| 17:32.20 | drmessano | khobo: I hope you realize Samot is by-far the most active person in #asterisk and #freepbx and has been helping others for years... and myself a bit less |
| 17:32.37 | drmessano | So you should probably move to the forums for additional assistance |
| 17:32.44 | drmessano | because you're gonna get a lot of crickets here now |
| 17:33.05 | drmessano | But good luck |
| 17:33.39 | drmessano | Samot: Is this what its like having teenagers? |
| 17:33.44 | Samot | No. |
| 17:34.08 | Samot | I mean a bit but not really. |
| 17:36.11 | drmessano | "You only have a single phone, no plan, no need, and no interest in learning" |
| 17:36.21 | drmessano | "Ok guys, we need to go our separate directions" |
| 17:37.13 | drmessano | Ironically, I am watching Shark Tank |
| 17:37.21 | drmessano | These guys are pitching a movie |
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| 17:37.52 | drmessano | they made a "promo" with no actual footage, just a graphics presentation |
| 17:37.55 | drmessano | They have no script |
| 17:38.17 | drmessano | Their concept is getting financing before they do any work |
| 17:38.35 | drmessano | Keeping the risk low. "We haven't wasted any money" |
| 17:39.01 | drmessano | Must be the new thing |
| 17:39.21 | Samot | Like using wifi extenders in a business |
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| 22:43.05 | wyoung | Hey gang! |
| 22:43.16 | khobo | heyhey |
| 22:43.41 | wyoung | How's the asterisking coming along khobo ? |
| 22:44.00 | khobo | I actually just found this |
| 22:44.01 | khobo | http://nerdvittles.com/?p=30080 |
| 22:44.15 | khobo | so reading about it now |
| 22:45.21 | wyoung | Oh nice, are you hosting Asterisk on a PI? I'm using an AWS EC2 instance for mine atm. |
| 22:45.47 | khobo | oo |
| 22:46.10 | khobo | yeah you know i don't expect more than 1-2 calls MAX at the same time.. it's not really a voice business i just wanted to have a single line up |
| 22:46.14 | khobo | mainly for appearances |
| 22:46.26 | khobo | essentially all i'm really interested in is having an IVR |
| 22:47.00 | khobo | it's for this small/niche product photography venture i'm trying to start up |
| 22:47.29 | khobo | so i've heard a couple of different things here on best practices |
| 22:47.34 | khobo | to provision or not |
| 22:47.55 | khobo | there is an option to upload the config files directly through the web gui |
| 22:49.02 | khobo | i've got it setup right now where i can call my computer from my phone and my phone from my computer |
| 22:49.19 | khobo | with some music on hold thrown in there |
| 22:51.26 | wyoung | Nice. Yeah you can use your PI to run a DHCP service if you want to do bootp provisioning stuff |
| 22:51.48 | wyoung | Or hardcode the provioning location |
| 22:54.08 | khobo | yeah,okay, so i'm noticing some language in the admin guide |
| 22:54.11 | khobo | about boot servers? |
| 22:54.20 | khobo | is that just another name for provisioning server? |
| 22:56.02 | khobo | Static - The phone uses the boot server configured through the provisioning server device.prov.* parameters. |
| 22:56.52 | khobo | okay, so the boot server is just hosting firmware |
| 22:57.01 | khobo | is that correct? |
| 22:58.54 | wyoung | Boot servers will set config URL and update firmware at boot time of handset device. Config URL has SIP settings and other phone configuration. Depending on the device, firmware download requires a TFTP service running while config uses a HTTP service |
| 22:59.19 | wyoung | Check phone manual :) |
| 22:59.35 | khobo | yeah i'm looking at the admin guide right now |
| 22:59.41 | khobo | nowhere is boot server defined |
| 22:59.47 | khobo | its not very noob friendly |
| 23:00.06 | khobo | at least from my perspective |
| 23:00.08 | wyoung | boot server is DHCP service |
| 23:00.31 | wyoung | that tells the phone where to get its config and firmware from |
| 23:01.18 | wyoung | You can run a DHCP service on your PI or configure the one in your network if it supports bootp and other advanced features |
| 23:02.27 | khobo | looks like right now it's set to custom+opt.66 |
| 23:03.12 | khobo | hmm okay written down |
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| 23:17.36 | wyoung | :) |
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