| 13:15:59 | Tangent | Goody |
| 19:39:47 | prh | anyone around? |
| 19:40:57 | prh | blues is the "official linux bluetooth protocol stack" and can be found at http://bluez.sourceforge.net/ |
| 19:41:16 | | OK, prh. |
| 19:41:16 | prh | ibot blues is the "official linux bluetooth protocol stack" and can be found at http://bluez.sourceforge.net/ |
| 19:41:32 | edd | hey paul |
| 19:41:37 | prh | hiya edd |
| 19:41:39 | edd | sat in conference meeting in hawaii |
| 19:41:41 | prh | hows life? |
| 19:41:53 | prh | 80211b in the room? |
| 19:41:55 | edd | i'm feeling a bit sick, actually, which doesn't play well with being in hawaii |
| 19:42:01 | edd | wireless throughout the conference, yes |
| 19:42:02 | prh | bummer |
| 19:42:09 | prh | what are you doing exactly these days? |
| 19:42:14 | edd | i edit xml.com |
| 19:42:20 | edd | for o'reilly |
| 19:42:22 | edd | that's my main dollar |
| 19:42:23 | prh | coo! |
| 19:42:36 | prh | nice one |
| 19:42:45 | edd | normally work from home in york |
| 19:42:51 | prh | so can you get me a discount on o'r stuff? |
| 19:42:59 | prh | still in york! wow |
| 19:42:59 | edd | heh, sadly no. |
| 19:43:01 | edd | times are hard. |
| 19:43:18 | prh | it'll settle again eventually |
| 19:43:37 | prh | I hope... |
| 19:45:25 | prh | is the conference good? |
| 19:46:34 | edd | yes, so far. |
| 19:47:05 | prh | good |
| 19:47:08 | prh | how long is it? |
| 19:47:14 | edd | through Saturday |
| 19:47:25 | edd | i get back in UK Monday afternoon. |
| 19:47:32 | prh | cool - staying on for a holiday while you're there? |
| 19:47:35 | edd | got my pubkey signed by a DD y'day. |
| 19:47:38 | edd | no holiday, no. |
| 19:47:42 | prh | cool |
| 19:48:16 | prh | might be able to stop in York on the way up to Glasgow start of June if you want a second singing :O) |
| 19:48:29 | prh | are you in touch with Paul and Claire? |
| 19:48:46 | edd | surname? |
| 19:48:49 | edd | (obviously not!) |
| 19:49:10 | edd | it's amazing who i'm not in touch with, ie. most people. |
| 19:49:16 | prh | hehe |
| 19:49:18 | prh | I'm the same |
| 19:49:31 | edd | joy gulliver (now married) lives in ripon, has a baby daughter |
| 19:49:38 | prh | cooO! |
| 19:49:45 | prh | she's lovely |
| 19:49:49 | edd | indeed. |
| 19:49:49 | prh | are you married? |
| 19:49:54 | edd | yes, since 1996 |
| 19:50:03 | edd | to rachael baikley |
| 19:50:07 | edd | bailey |
| 19:50:08 | prh | ooo! to erm rach.. |
| 19:50:24 | prh | hehe gonna have to gatecrash on you sometime :O) |
| 19:50:42 | edd | sure. |
| 19:50:50 | prh | alternatively if you're ever down in London come say hello, stay, or we could meet up in town |
| 19:50:58 | edd | yes, i go down occasoinally. |
| 19:51:06 | edd | you work in central london? |
| 19:51:16 | prh | naa - mitcham - the armpit of london :O) |
| 19:52:20 | prh | btw guys there are automatic logs of #bluez now - courtesy of ibot. ibot does lots of other funky useful things too |
| 19:52:29 | edd | is ibot an infobot? |
| 19:52:37 | prh | yea |
| 19:52:41 | prh | ibot help |
| 19:52:47 | edd | didn't realise there was a logging module |
| 19:52:55 | | ACTION |
| 19:52:55 | | It says ',' edd |
| 19:52:55 | edd | ibot: divine chances of being an infobot? |
| 19:52:56 | prh | on this one there is |
| 19:53:02 | edd | yay, it's a broken 0.44.3 !@ |
| 19:53:59 | edd | ok, break time |
| 19:54:02 | edd | i'm off for a while |
| 19:54:06 | edd | see you later. |
| 19:54:10 | prh | cool - later |
| 19:58:24 | | i already had it that way, prh. |
| 19:58:24 | prh | ibot blues is the "official linux bluetooth protocol stack" and can be found at http://bluez.sourceforge.net/ |
| 19:58:35 | prh | what is bluez |
| 19:58:38 | prh | what is bluez? |
| 19:58:42 | | wish i knew, prh |
| 19:58:42 | prh | ibot what is bluez? |
| 19:58:50 | | OK, prh. |
| 19:58:51 | prh | ibot bluez is the "official linux bluetooth protocol stack" and can be found at http://bluez.sourceforge.net/ |
| 19:58:52 | | bluez is the "official linux bluetooth protocol stack" and can be found at http://bluez.sourceforge.net/ |
| 19:58:52 | prh | ibot what is bluez? |
| 19:58:55 | prh | doh! |
| 20:04:01 | oyy | :) |
| 20:38:06 | prh | oyy : did you get rfcommd working y et? |
| 20:39:21 | prh | - |
| 20:48:16 | prh | ibot message for oyy: Did you ever get rfcommd working? |
| 20:56:20 | oyy | prh: somewhat |
| 20:57:31 | oyy | prh: there are at least 2 areas of my ignorance I have to fill in |
| 20:58:11 | edd | has several inches of bluetooth specs to read some day |
| 20:58:57 | oyy | prh: 1. I adjusted rfcommd to use vfork on our MMU-less Coldfire processor, but this adjustment was flawed |
| 20:59:36 | prh | ah |
| 21:00:27 | oyy | prh: 2. I experienced ACL tx timeouts when doing FTP transfers and still don't know the reason |
| 21:01:00 | oyy | was given a piece of advice to play with packet sizes and numbers |
| 21:01:24 | prh | uhuh |
| 21:02:30 | oyy | is now re-applying in-house patches manually to the whole BlueZ tree thanks to CVS'es lack of file name history |
| 21:02:48 | oyy | not that there too many patches |
| 21:03:57 | oyy | thought subversion might help, but then realized that the "vendor tree" is still under CVS |
| 21:05:08 | oyy | actually, even if bluez.sf.net were using subversion, it might e still impossible to track the vendor file name changes automatically |
| 21:05:15 | prh | I tried subversion a little while ago - it was far too confusing for me... |
| 21:05:24 | edd | it's still too early. |
| 21:07:31 | prh | yea |
| 21:08:35 | oyy | how would you guys imagine the process of copying the vendor tree into a local version control repository |
| 21:09:17 | oyy | under CVS, we simply import the new tree into the "vendor trunk" and then apply the vendor changes to the main trunk |
| 21:10:13 | oyy | the only problem is that CVS will not merge the in-house changes in the main trunk if a vendor file name was changed |
| 21:10:38 | edd | that's just a Difficulty, i guess |
| 21:10:57 | edd | i've not looked at alternate systems. does bitkeeper look viable? |
| 21:11:39 | oyy | I don't know. |
| 21:13:50 | oyy | edd: I heard there was a battle over BK's policies and Linus'es word was "I don't care about politics, I wish people would be able to do the work they like, and there is no GPL alternative to BK" |
| 21:22:30 | prh | a battle? the flames went on for ages on the LKML... |
| 21:43:03 | oyy | has just figured out in adjacent window that subversion is capable of merging file name changes with file content changes |
| 21:43:45 | oyy | so the only hassle is to maintain the vendor tree in svn repository, applying the file name changes manually |