| 13:49:09 | Harlekin | does anybody know a winbond bluetooth chip? |
| 13:49:13 | Harlekin | if it works |
| 17:04:34 | hk | hi |
| 17:04:58 | hk | can someone tell me how rfcommd will work on the ipaq? |
| 17:05:53 | oyy | what's the problem? |
| 17:06:37 | hk | the pppd goes on ttySA0 and thats the console. |
| 17:06:51 | hk | and if i force it to use pts/1 it crashes |
| 17:07:44 | oyy | pppd should not be given any device name when using rfcommd |
| 17:08:12 | hk | yes.. but which? |
| 17:11:59 | oyy | should not be given |
| 17:12:17 | hk | but then it goes on ttySA0 and not the correct one |
| 17:12:38 | oyy | where does ttySA0 come from? |
| 17:13:33 | hk | http://www.geocrawler.com/archives/3/11993/2001/11/50 |
| 17:13:37 | hk | but which?? |
| 17:14:10 | hk | http://www.geocrawler.com/archives/3/11993/2001/11/50/7040926/ |
| 17:14:15 | hk | sorry wrong url |
| 17:16:08 | oyy | so what is ttySA0? |
| 17:16:14 | oyy | i am not familiar with iPAQ |
| 17:16:38 | hk | ttySA0 is like ttyS0 |
| 17:16:47 | oyy | is this a serial port? |
| 17:16:49 | hk | and ttySB0 is like ttyS1 |
| 17:16:50 | hk | yes |
| 17:17:00 | oyy | is Bluetooth device connected to it? |
| 17:17:30 | hk | and the bluetooth device is connected to ttySB0 but rfcommd makes an virtual port i think |
| 17:17:38 | oyy | true |
| 17:18:01 | oyy | do you see the Bluetooth device in hciconfig -a? |
| 17:18:52 | hk | yes.. l2ping works and rfconnd can connect but the pppd won't start correctly |
| 17:19:02 | oyy | can you paste /etc/ppp/options? |
| 17:19:27 | hk | -detach |
| 17:19:27 | hk | local |
| 17:19:27 | hk | defaultroute |
| 17:19:27 | hk | nocrtscts |
| 17:19:27 | hk | lock |
| 17:19:28 | hk | lcp-echo-interval 5 |
| 17:19:30 | hk | lcp-echo-failure 3 |
| 17:19:32 | hk | pts/1 |
| 17:19:34 | hk | #pts1 |
| 17:19:36 | hk | 115200 |
| 17:19:38 | hk | ipcp-accept-remote |
| 17:19:40 | hk | ipcp-accept-local |
| 17:19:42 | hk | noauth |
| 17:19:55 | oyy | pts/1 should be removed |
| 17:20:11 | oyy | as well as #pts1 |
| 17:20:50 | hk | May 15 17:04:06 ipaq rfcommd[792]: RFCOMMd client ver 1.1 04/16/2002 started |
| 17:20:50 | hk | May 15 17:04:07 ipaq rfcommd[792]: Connecting to 00:04:76:E1:A9:6A |
| 17:20:50 | hk | May 15 17:04:08 ipaq rfcommd[792]: Session na[00:04:76:E1:A9:6A] opened |
| 17:20:50 | hk | May 15 17:04:08 ipaq rfcommd[792]: Exit |
| 17:20:50 | hk | May 15 17:04:08 ipaq pppd[794]: pppd 2.4.0b4 started by root, uid 0 |
| 17:20:50 | hk | May 15 17:04:08 ipaq pppd[794]: Failed to open /dev/pts/1: No such file or direy |
| 17:20:52 | hk | May 15 17:04:08 ipaq pppd[794]: Exit. |
| 17:21:39 | oyy | excellent |
| 17:21:47 | oyy | does the /dev/pts directory exist? |
| 17:22:05 | hk | May 15 17:05:24 ipaq pppd[811]: no device specified and stdin is not a tty |
| 17:22:41 | hk | May 15 17:05:55 ipaq pppd[819]: Couldn't get channel number: Input/output error |
| 17:23:04 | oyy | try "nodetach" instead of "-detach" in /etc/ppp/option |
| 17:23:15 | oyy | does the /dev/pts directory exist? |
| 17:23:30 | hk | it exists.. |
| 17:25:56 | hk | May 15 17:09:11 ipaq pppd[934]: Couldn't attach to PPP unit 0: Invalid argument |
| 17:26:03 | hk | what does that mean? |
| 17:26:30 | oyy | is CONFIG_DEVPTS_FS=y in your kernel's .config? |
| 17:26:53 | hk | yes.. and it is mounted |
| 17:27:30 | oyy | what does /usr/sbin/pppd --version say? |
| 17:28:53 | hk | pppd version 2.4.0b4 |
| 17:29:02 | oyy | oh, BTW, do you have /dev/ppp? |
| 17:30:20 | oyy | and alias char-major-108 ppp_async in /etc/modules.conf? |
| 17:30:51 | hk | crw------- 1 root root 108, 0 Jan 1 1970 ppp |
| 17:31:35 | oyy | so with "nodetach" in /etc/ppp/options pppd says "couldn't get channel number"? |
| 17:32:23 | oyy | mind putting "local" instead of "nolocal"? |
| 17:32:37 | oyy | oops |
| 17:32:42 | oyy | sorry, I see it's there |
| 17:33:13 | oyy | I don't have "lock" in my options. |
| 17:34:50 | hk | doesn't help |
| 17:37:04 | oyy | <oyy> can you paste /etc/ppp/options? |
| 17:37:04 | oyy | <hk> -detach |
| 17:37:04 | oyy | <hk> local |
| 17:37:04 | oyy | <hk> defaultroute |
| 17:37:04 | oyy | <hk> nocrtscts |
| 17:37:04 | oyy | <hk> lock |
| 17:37:35 | hk | i have removed before i wrote doesn't help ;-) |
| 17:38:07 | oyy | would it be difficult to upgrade pppd from samba.org? |
| 17:38:27 | hk | yes.. becaus i don't have a toolchain |
| 17:38:41 | oyy | i see |
| 17:39:00 | oyy | can you try the options file from http://superbt.ca/bluez/options ? |
| 17:39:52 | oyy | what's in your rfcommd.conf ppp line? |
| 17:40:37 | hk | ppp "noauth"; |
| 17:41:41 | oyy | is iPAQ a handheld? if yes, are you going to make it accept incoming connections? |
| 17:42:37 | hk | it is an ipaq and i'm trying to make it outgoing.. but i can change it to incoming |
| 17:43:00 | oyy | so you start rfcommd with the session name... i see |
| 17:43:06 | zecke | hi |
| 17:43:16 | hk | yes |
| 17:43:31 | oyy | zecke: hi |
| 17:45:48 | hk | if i let the ipaq listen it says: |
| 17:45:55 | hk | May 15 17:28:56 ipaq rfcommd[1226]: Connection from 00:04:76:E1:A9:6A |
| 17:45:55 | hk | May 15 17:28:56 ipaq rfcommd[1226]: Session na[00:04:76:E1:A9:6A] opened |
| 17:45:55 | hk | May 15 17:28:56 ipaq pppd[1228]: pppd 2.4.0b4 started by root, uid 0 |
| 17:45:55 | hk | May 15 17:28:56 ipaq pppd[1228]: Using interface ppp0 |
| 17:45:55 | hk | May 15 17:28:56 ipaq pppd[1228]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/pts/1 |
| 17:45:55 | hk | May 15 17:28:56 ipaq rfcommd[1226]: Exit |
| 17:45:57 | hk | May 15 17:28:56 ipaq pppd[1228]: Modem hangup |
| 17:45:59 | hk | May 15 17:28:56 ipaq pppd[1228]: Connection terminated. |
| 17:46:01 | hk | May 15 17:28:57 ipaq pppd[1228]: Exit. |
| 17:46:05 | hk | and the rfcommd on the pc says: |
| 17:46:15 | hk | rfcommd[20349]: RFCOMMd client ver 1.1 05/14/2002 started |
| 17:46:15 | hk | rfcommd[20349]: Connecting to 00:02:C7:09:68:C4 |
| 17:46:16 | hk | rfcommd[20349]: Session na[00:02:C7:09:68:C4] opened |
| 17:46:16 | hk | rfcommd[20349]: Exit |
| 17:46:16 | hk | Segmentation fault |
| 17:47:19 | zecke | any guru around |
| 17:47:38 | zecke | i bought an acer bluetooth usb adapter but it doesn't get set up |
| 17:47:59 | zecke | the hardware is listed in the hardware section but without a state |
| 17:48:05 | hk | I got it! |
| 17:48:25 | hk | i dont know how and why but it worx |
| 17:48:26 | zecke | I don't really know the USB subsection and I would like how I could debug it? |
| 17:48:30 | hk | tnx!! |
| 17:48:41 | hk | zecke: 3com? |
| 17:48:55 | zecke | hk: acer |
| 17:49:02 | hk | csr chipset? |
| 17:49:08 | zecke | hk:they don't know what they manufactured |
| 17:49:25 | hk | zecke: do you use the bluez modules from the vanilla kernel? |
| 17:49:28 | zecke | hk: is there a way to find out? |
| 17:49:31 | zecke | hk: no |
| 17:49:44 | hk | zecke: you use the bluez-kernel-2.1? |
| 17:49:45 | zecke | blueZ |
| 17:49:59 | hk | how did you build them? |
| 17:50:16 | zecke | ./configure --with-kernel=/home/ich/linux ;) |
| 17:50:22 | zecke | without debugging though |
| 17:50:39 | zecke | how can I find out which chip is used? |
| 17:51:05 | hk | zecke: sprichst du deutsch? |
| 17:51:19 | zecke | qoi? |
| 17:51:21 | zecke | ja |
| 17:51:54 | hk | hast du die module usb-uhci, hci_usb, l2cap und bluez geladen? |
| 17:52:37 | zecke | ich hab usb-ohci |
| 17:52:42 | zecke | ist das auch ok? |
| 17:52:46 | hk | ja |
| 17:52:51 | hk | und dann genauso? |
| 17:53:22 | zecke | warte |
| 17:53:30 | zecke | char-major-116 ist? |
| 17:54:14 | hk | alias char-major-10-250 hci_vhci |
| 17:54:14 | hk | alias char-major-108 ppp_async |
| 17:54:50 | zecke | hk bis auf 108 ist alles in der /etc/modules.conf |
| 17:54:58 | hk | brauchste gar nix drin haben davon |
| 17:55:18 | zecke | war aber im HowTo |
| 17:56:03 | zecke | egal |
| 17:56:21 | zecke | in /var/log/messages erscheint nichts, wenn ich den Adapter einstoepsel |
| 17:56:31 | hk | zecke: gar nix? |
| 17:56:41 | hk | auch bei dmesg nix? |
| 17:56:42 | zecke | ja :( |
| 17:57:02 | zecke | noe nur die zu letzt manuell geladenen module |
| 17:58:12 | zecke | /etc/init.d/hotplug hat auch nichts geaendert |
| 17:58:13 | hk | dann liegts am usb oder am kabel oder so.. |
| 17:58:30 | hk | hat das usb-ohci den root-hub erkannt? |
| 17:58:40 | zecke | yo |
| 17:58:44 | hk | hmm |
| 17:58:49 | zecke | usb geht schon |
| 17:58:59 | hk | liegt dann am usb oder am bluetooth geraet |
| 17:59:08 | zecke | hab 2 verschiedene |
| 17:59:15 | zecke | muss ich mal windoze testen :( |
| 17:59:49 | zecke | muss soetwas erst freigeschaltet werden? firmware so wie bei avm ISDN Karten? |
| 18:00:19 | hk | eigentlich nich |
| 18:00:28 | zecke | mal was generelles wie kann ich das debuggen? |
| 18:00:31 | zecke | hotplug etc |
| 18:01:05 | zecke | oder wie mach ich khubd bekannt welches modul mit welcher id zu verknuepfen? |
| 18:01:19 | zecke | ok bin mal kurz am anderen rechner |
| 18:01:27 | hk | k.a. welche distribution hassu? |
| 18:01:46 | zecke | SuSE 7.3 und Debian Woody ( bin gerade auf SuSE) |
| 18:02:02 | zecke | so ich es mal mit usb-uhci probieren? |
| 18:02:39 | hk | es kann doch nur ohci oder uhci gehen |
| 18:15:56 | oyy | micht fershteen |
| 18:16:03 | oyy | nicht |
| 18:16:48 | hk | usb-ohci und uhci sind die treiber fuer den usb adapter im rechner.. davon wird nur eins laden |
| 18:16:54 | oyy | no esli hotite, ja mogu i po-russki chto-nibud' dobavit' |
| 18:18:05 | hk | oyy: ok.. so we will speak english.. |
| 18:19:10 | oyy | hk: just thought I might get some useful information or share my own |
| 18:19:44 | zecke | oyy: I want to get bluetooth working with a iPAQ H3870 |
| 18:20:01 | oyy | zacke, cool, we did it last week |
| 18:20:17 | zecke | oyy: I bought a Acer USB Bluetooth Adapter with unknown status to test |
| 18:20:23 | zecke | oyy: just the UI for it ;) |
| 18:20:23 | oyy | there is a built-in luetooth chip. |
| 18:20:24 | hk | zecke: do you use the ipaq on windos or linux? |
| 18:20:31 | oyy | Bluetooth chip |
| 18:20:44 | zecke | oyy: do you know Opie? |
| 18:20:54 | oyy | zacke, only heard |
| 18:20:58 | zecke | hk: currently it sits at the German custom |
| 18:21:06 | zecke | hk: but it will run linux |
| 18:21:07 | hk | now i have ipaq with bluetooth working and ppp running |
| 18:21:07 | zecke | and Opie |
| 18:21:23 | oyy | zacke, sorry, we only made it work under PocketPC |
| 18:21:45 | zecke | hk: 156Euro for 2 Mitsumi Adapters were to expensive |
| 18:21:48 | hk | oyy: with bluetooth sp1 and so ;-) |
| 18:22:22 | oyy | hk, great |
| 18:24:17 | zecke | oyy: I want to debug the bluetooth usb stuff |
| 18:24:24 | zecke | oyy: but I don't know where to start |
| 18:32:26 | oyy | zecke: enable DEBUG symbol(s) in the BlueZ kernel modules? |
| 18:32:47 | zecke | oyy: just compile with --enable-debug? |
| 18:32:54 | oyy | never tried that |
| 18:33:02 | oyy | zecke: why not |
| 18:33:16 | zecke | oyy: I don't even know if the kernel tried to pass it to the blueZ modules |
| 18:33:59 | oyy | is your Bluetooth USB adapter seen in /proc/bus/usb/devices? |
| 18:42:09 | zecke | no it doesn't |
| 18:42:36 | zecke | all modules are loaded though |
| 18:42:53 | zecke | oyy: how can I debug that. I just need a point to start from ;) |
| 18:52:02 | zecke | usb-fw-load what is it? |
| 18:52:32 | zecke | and zero-packet |
| 18:58:36 | oyy | zecke: enables firmware loading protocol for some BroadComm(?) chips |
| 18:59:31 | oyy | zero-packet adjusts the USB driver's behaviour to USB devices requiring extra zero size packet. This is against USB spec, AFAIK |
| 19:00:07 | oyy | zecke, but first of all your device must be seen in /proc/bus/usb/devices |
| 19:00:29 | zecke | oyy: I don't know what is wrong. My Zaurus Cradle shows up |
| 19:00:40 | oyy | I guess your USB controller driver is responsible for interacting with the device at hist level |
| 19:00:43 | zecke | oyy: I compiling a 2.4.19-pre8 kernel |
| 19:00:52 | zecke | for my desktop |
| 19:01:06 | zecke | currently I'm at my laptop |
| 19:01:09 | oyy | what's the name of Bluetooth USB chip? |
| 19:01:27 | zecke | oyy: I dunno. and Acer doesn't even know |
| 19:01:49 | Harlekin | i called the support |
| 19:01:52 | Harlekin | they did not know |
| 19:01:53 | Harlekin | -) |
| 19:02:40 | zecke | damn I forgot how to setup grub |
| 19:15:38 | zekce | hi |
| 19:15:51 | zekce | switched machines and |
| 19:15:58 | zekce | it seams to work |
| 19:16:31 | zekce | hciconfig hci0 up prints a lot of to the console but no failures |
| 19:30:50 | oyy | zekce: what does the cat /proc/bus/usb/devices say? |
| 19:54:07 | zekce | oyy it's empty |
| 19:54:17 | zekce | oyy: but it works sometimes only :( |
| 19:54:30 | zekce | oyy:windoze reports them as CSR bluetooth adapter |
| 19:55:29 | zekce | oyy: laptop 2.4.18-SuSE not working, 2.4.19-pre8 working sometimes |
| 19:55:40 | zekce | oyy: I need 2.4.19 for usbdnet |
| 21:03:37 | Harlekin | re |
| 21:24:04 | zecke|away | somebody still there? |
| 21:25:57 | Harlekin | me |
| 21:26:07 | Harlekin | .-) |
| 21:26:17 | zecke|away | I'm aware of that |