| 15:03:09 | HuNgRyJaCk | hi all! |
| 15:03:13 | HuNgRyJaCk | i need help! |
| 15:03:20 | HuNgRyJaCk | any body here listening? |
| 15:04:08 | fusero | yes |
| 15:04:20 | fusero | HuNgRyJaCk: i'm here |
| 15:05:11 | HuNgRyJaCk | okies! |
| 15:05:27 | HuNgRyJaCk | i wana ask about making connections in blueZ |
| 15:05:34 | HuNgRyJaCk | actually i am using BNEP ! |
| 15:05:46 | fusero | i'm too |
| 15:06:00 | HuNgRyJaCk | i want to have more then one connection on one device! |
| 15:06:06 | HuNgRyJaCk | but i am having failure! |
| 15:06:09 | HuNgRyJaCk | any idea? |
| 15:06:22 | HuNgRyJaCk | i m using pand -s -r GN |
| 15:06:23 | fusero | I haven't tried it |
| 15:06:28 | fusero | but... |
| 15:06:37 | HuNgRyJaCk | and pand -c <bd_addr> |
| 15:06:42 | HuNgRyJaCk | on the same card |
| 15:06:46 | fusero | did are you bridging the interfaces? |
| 15:06:57 | fusero | are you bridging the interfaces? |
| 15:07:03 | HuNgRyJaCk | means? |
| 15:07:21 | HuNgRyJaCk | i am talking about the layer 2 connections over here! |
| 15:07:51 | fusero | I don't understand you |
| 15:07:56 | HuNgRyJaCk | i cant even ping from 3rd device once 2 devices are connected with each other! |
| 15:07:56 | fusero | english is no tmy language |
| 15:08:12 | HuNgRyJaCk | hmm okies... no worries.... |
| 15:08:16 | HuNgRyJaCk | lemme explain ya! |
| 15:08:20 | fusero | but you cannot connect via PAN, can you? |
| 15:08:35 | HuNgRyJaCk | nopes i cannot connect via pan! |
| 15:08:49 | HuNgRyJaCk | and bridging and routing will b done once i get the ip.... |
| 15:09:02 | HuNgRyJaCk | and i can get ip only after the connection! |
| 15:09:09 | HuNgRyJaCk | that is bnep0,1,2,etc |
| 15:09:14 | fusero | ok ok |
| 15:09:32 | HuNgRyJaCk | i hope u understand my problem |
| 15:09:37 | fusero | yes |
| 15:09:52 | HuNgRyJaCk | so should i tell u the commands i am running? |
| 15:10:19 | fusero | ok |
| 15:10:39 | fusero | but i'll advise you that I haven't tried it |
| 15:10:54 | HuNgRyJaCk | okies... in my network.... there are three devices.... |
| 15:11:02 | fusero | ok |
| 15:11:08 | HuNgRyJaCk | one is NAP one is GN and one is PANU |
| 15:11:16 | fusero | wait wait |
| 15:11:23 | HuNgRyJaCk | now i want GN to have two connections.... |
| 15:11:39 | fusero | i'm not sure you can have NAP and GN at the same time |
| 15:11:48 | HuNgRyJaCk | hmmmm |
| 15:11:54 | HuNgRyJaCk | they are saperate ... |
| 15:12:00 | HuNgRyJaCk | i mean saperate machine! |
| 15:12:17 | fusero | but... |
| 15:12:30 | fusero | can we have a PAN and a GN in the same piconet? |
| 15:12:36 | HuNgRyJaCk | can i connect my GN with NAP by command pand -c <bd_addr> |
| 15:12:52 | HuNgRyJaCk | actually they are two piconets.... |
| 15:13:02 | fusero | ok ok |
| 15:13:03 | HuNgRyJaCk | u can say that they are scatternets! |
| 15:13:40 | fusero | i think you cannot connect GN and PAN |
| 15:13:48 | HuNgRyJaCk | why? |
| 15:13:56 | fusero | the two only can have incoming connections |
| 15:14:09 | HuNgRyJaCk | the role of GN is for the saperate picconet! |
| 15:14:39 | HuNgRyJaCk | and i want to connect my GN machine with NAP with direct connection by command pand -c <bd_addr> |
| 15:14:51 | fusero | and you want to connect the GN and NA |
| 15:14:55 | fusero | sorry |
| 15:14:59 | HuNgRyJaCk | yeap |
| 15:15:27 | fusero | hmmm |
| 15:15:29 | HuNgRyJaCk | i want to connect them both and at the same time i want to recieve connection on both |
| 15:15:44 | HuNgRyJaCk | i mean pand -s -r NAP |
| 15:15:56 | fusero | i really don't now if it is possible |
| 15:16:04 | fusero | the mailing list is your solution |
| 15:16:05 | HuNgRyJaCk | pand -s -r GN & pand -c <bd_addr of NAP> |
| 15:16:18 | HuNgRyJaCk | hmmm they will reply late! |
| 15:16:25 | fusero | yes yes |
| 15:16:36 | HuNgRyJaCk | have u ever tried more then two connection of any type? |
| 15:16:42 | fusero | but Max is going to ask emails this night |
| 15:16:45 | fusero | yes |
| 15:16:49 | fusero | i have tried |
| 15:16:56 | HuNgRyJaCk | by using what? |
| 15:17:02 | fusero | when i do rfcomm connection to a device |
| 15:17:13 | fusero | I can't use that device anymore |
| 15:17:18 | HuNgRyJaCk | ohh okies... i m not using rfcomm |
| 15:17:20 | fusero | don't know why |
| 15:17:34 | fusero | but it is not discoverable |
| 15:17:39 | HuNgRyJaCk | do u think there is some limitation in bluez? |
| 15:18:03 | fusero | at first i thought it, a few weeks ago |
| 15:18:14 | fusero | but nowadays i don't think so |
| 15:18:32 | fusero | i have a question for you |
| 15:18:46 | HuNgRyJaCk | go ahead! |
| 15:19:01 | fusero | are you using a device without BlueZ with PAN support? |
| 15:19:31 | HuNgRyJaCk | i m using device with bluez with PAN support! |
| 15:19:42 | HuNgRyJaCk | is it possible to use pan without bluez? |
| 15:20:29 | fusero | i don't think so |
| 15:20:40 | HuNgRyJaCk | yeap... same here! |
| 15:20:47 | fusero | PAN profile is not a 1.0 standar yet |
| 15:20:49 | HuNgRyJaCk | so i m using bluez core and pan |
| 15:20:57 | HuNgRyJaCk | okies |
| 15:21:00 | HuNgRyJaCk | this means? |
| 15:21:13 | fusero | so, nobody makes soft with PAN support |
| 15:21:17 | fusero | i say for win |
| 15:21:25 | HuNgRyJaCk | okies! |
| 15:21:35 | fusero | i have an iPAQ (Windows Pocket PC) |
| 15:21:39 | HuNgRyJaCk | actually i am working on roaming project using bluetooth |
| 15:21:50 | fusero | very interesting |
| 15:21:54 | HuNgRyJaCk | i have two ipaqs one linux box |
| 15:22:09 | fusero | the two iPAQs have linux? |
| 15:22:19 | HuNgRyJaCk | on both of ipaqs i have familiar and in linux bix i have redhat! |
| 15:22:25 | fusero | my boss doesn't allow me to do that |
| 15:22:36 | fusero | familiar? |
| 15:22:59 | HuNgRyJaCk | yeap it is a version of linux for handhelds! |
| 15:23:14 | HuNgRyJaCk | i mean for PDA's |
| 15:23:26 | fusero | is it free? |
| 15:23:32 | fusero | has it good doc? |
| 15:23:37 | HuNgRyJaCk | yeap it is free! |
| 15:23:42 | HuNgRyJaCk | and good doc as well! |
| 15:23:50 | fusero | that sounds fine |
| 15:23:57 | HuNgRyJaCk | and have good softwares as well! |
| 15:24:02 | HuNgRyJaCk | u should try that! |
| 15:24:08 | fusero | snif snif snif |
| 15:24:30 | HuNgRyJaCk | it have everything u want on ipaq! |
| 15:24:31 | fusero | i would be a pleasure opening a xterm and typing "kill -9 ...." |
| 15:24:46 | HuNgRyJaCk | hehe |
| 15:24:56 | fusero | 3870 or 3970? |
| 15:24:59 | HuNgRyJaCk | it got good graphics as well |
| 15:25:05 | HuNgRyJaCk | works on both! |
| 15:25:32 | fusero | are there screenshots of familiar? |
| 15:25:42 | HuNgRyJaCk | hmmm |
| 15:25:50 | HuNgRyJaCk | i think there should be... |
| 15:26:02 | HuNgRyJaCk | why not u try familiar.handhelds.org? |
| 15:26:45 | fusero | i'll have a look |
| 15:27:01 | HuNgRyJaCk | yeap there are some screen shots over there! |
| 15:27:03 | fusero | but on friday next week |
| 15:27:19 | fusero | we have to finish a demo for Thursday |
| 15:27:33 | HuNgRyJaCk | okies! |
| 15:27:34 | fusero | let's see the screenshots |
| 15:27:38 | fusero | .... |
| 15:27:40 | HuNgRyJaCk | what kind of? can i ask? |
| 15:29:16 | fusero | yes |
| 15:29:26 | fusero | the shots are very very pretty |
| 15:29:42 | fusero | my job is a part of a residential gateway |
| 15:29:51 | HuNgRyJaCk | well they are not as good as CE! |
| 15:29:53 | HuNgRyJaCk | okies |
| 15:30:01 | HuNgRyJaCk | and where u from? |
| 15:30:08 | HuNgRyJaCk | i mean which country? |
| 15:30:19 | fusero | Spain!!!!! |
| 15:30:25 | HuNgRyJaCk | ohh okies! |
| 15:30:34 | fusero | and you |
| 15:30:39 | HuNgRyJaCk | i m from australia |
| 15:31:20 | HuNgRyJaCk | i m working as a research fellow in monash university in melbourne, australia |
| 15:31:55 | fusero | ufff |
| 15:32:17 | fusero | what does research fellow means? |
| 15:32:36 | HuNgRyJaCk | i m doing research under somebody! |
| 15:33:14 | fusero | ok ok ok |
| 15:33:28 | fusero | somebody is the boss... i think |
| 15:33:38 | HuNgRyJaCk | yeap kind off! |
| 15:33:40 | HuNgRyJaCk | u can say! |
| 15:34:02 | HuNgRyJaCk | but as this is university, there is no concept of boss but same concept applies! |
| 15:34:04 | HuNgRyJaCk | :) |
| 15:34:17 | fusero | ok ok |
| 15:34:31 | fusero | and your name? |
| 15:34:41 | HuNgRyJaCk | AJ Khan |
| 15:34:43 | HuNgRyJaCk | and urs? |
| 15:35:27 | fusero | Fernando Usero |
| 15:35:35 | fusero | nice to meet you |
| 15:35:47 | HuNgRyJaCk | same here :) |
| 15:37:41 | fusero | edd is Debian maintaner of bluez |
| 15:38:10 | HuNgRyJaCk | ohh okies |
| 15:38:51 | HuNgRyJaCk | r u working one some project as well? |
| 15:39:25 | HuNgRyJaCk | r u working on some project as well? |
| 15:41:24 | fusero | yes, the residential gateway |
| 15:41:35 | HuNgRyJaCk | what is that? |
| 15:41:51 | fusero | hmmm |
| 15:41:56 | fusero | a box for the home |
| 15:42:15 | fusero | with BT support |
| 15:42:21 | fusero | Wireless support |
| 15:42:29 | HuNgRyJaCk | ohh okies |
| 15:42:31 | fusero | Personal Video Recorder |
| 15:42:33 | fusero | etc... |
| 15:42:38 | HuNgRyJaCk | seems cool ey! |
| 15:42:42 | HuNgRyJaCk | so using linux? |
| 15:42:46 | HuNgRyJaCk | or windows? |
| 15:43:30 | fusero | linux forever |
| 15:43:33 | fusero | debian |
| 15:43:50 | HuNgRyJaCk | and what abt ipaq? |
| 15:44:16 | fusero | tha iPAQ is for simulating a person who comes into the house |
| 15:44:28 | fusero | and want to see all the services the gateway offers |
| 15:44:42 | HuNgRyJaCk | okies.... thats great |
| 15:44:53 | HuNgRyJaCk | so how can he/she sees that? |
| 15:45:19 | HuNgRyJaCk | i mean once he/she comes into the range of bluetooth he recieves the information... rite? |
| 15:49:04 | HuNgRyJaCk | anywayz i have to go now! |
| 15:49:08 | HuNgRyJaCk | nice meeting ya! |
| 15:49:14 | HuNgRyJaCk | take my email.... |
| 15:49:21 | HuNgRyJaCk | aj@ajkhan.net |
| 15:49:33 | HuNgRyJaCk | so we can exchange ideas? |
| 15:49:38 | HuNgRyJaCk | have a good time |
| 15:49:46 | HuNgRyJaCk | bye |