| 08:34.00 | numist | man, adding a stall before joining channels to account for cloak propagation is irksome |
| 08:34.26 | troubled | a simple sleep/wait 2 doesnt cut it? |
| 08:34.48 | troubled | even better, wait until you get the notice for the rehosting? |
| 08:45.41 | numist | a sleep/wait 2 works, but... goddamn hack because I have to fork off the autojoin code or else it would block the main thread, which is doing the connection management and identification |
| 08:48.22 | troubled | i see DrJ is still hanging out in the channels (freen and defoc) |
| 08:48.51 | numist | yeah, let him hang |
| 08:49.00 | troubled | of course :) |
| 08:49.03 | numist | he already knows that he's not going to get anything from me |
| 08:49.09 | troubled | (not that i can do much anyway heh) |
| 08:49.28 | numist | *shrug* I have no need to kill him |
| 08:49.31 | troubled | well, kloeri set the actual +q, but I noticed tomaw had a run in as well |
| 08:49.36 | numist | other than that whole kill on sight thing |
| 08:49.46 | numist | he's been klined and banned many times, he just likes to evade |
| 08:50.05 | troubled | im sure one of these years he will just go with the flow |
| 08:50.20 | numist | years. probably. |
| 08:51.03 | troubled | what ive noticed when it comes to kicks/bans is that it starts when someone is in a bad mood and gets impatient, says something and gets kicked etc. from there on it always seems to turn into a ban dodging game and attacks on the people involved |
| 08:57.42 | troubled | @rtsp |
| 08:57.43 | supybot | troubled: Error: "rtsp" is not a valid command. |
| 08:57.45 | numist | depends |
| 08:57.51 | troubled | ^rtsp |
| 08:57.53 | ravenbird | i guess rtsp is "real time streaming protocol". A minimal TCP and mostly UDP based protocol for transporting /real media/ content. Some packages can be found with "apt-cache search realplay" or "... rtsp". Tell supaplex if you know of/find a rtsp client that can save streams to disk. |
| 08:57.57 | numist | I dont spend any time in #defocus on purpose, but in other channels some folks are just out for trouble |
| 08:58.06 | numist | #jargon rtsp |
| 08:58.08 | Anna^ | The only similar words I could find were: "RTS" |
| 08:58.13 | numist | #jfoldoc rtsp |
| 08:58.15 | numist | #foldoc rtsp |
| 08:58.16 | Anna^ | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:58.19 | numist | there we go |
| 08:58.22 | troubled | $wtf rtsp |
| 08:58.25 | FactBot | Gee... I don't know what rtsp means... |
| 08:58.27 | numist | ha neat |
| 08:58.29 | numist | however, fail |
| 08:58.29 | troubled | bah |
| 08:58.34 | numist | #dict rtsp |
| 08:58.34 | Anna^ | RTSP Real Time Streaming Protocol (TV, WWW, UDP, TCP/IP, RDP, Multicast) |
| 08:58.40 | troubled | $dict rtsp |
| 08:58.42 | FactBot | could not find definition for rtsp |
| 08:58.48 | numist | Anna^++ |
| 08:58.51 | troubled | gawd, my db sucks lol |
| 08:58.58 | numist | don't use a db :) |
| 08:59.11 | troubled | well, my dictionary db and wtf db |
| 08:59.13 | numist | I'm using dict.org for my lookups |
| 08:59.31 | troubled | i could, but i run a local dictd, so I just point it there to save time |
| 08:59.42 | numist | hm |
| 08:59.56 | troubled | although, debian stable isnt known for bleeding edge anything |
| 09:00.28 | numist | quite the opposite in fact |
| 09:09.14 | troubled | !ping |
| 09:09.45 | troubled | $ping |
| 09:09.45 | FactBot | pong! |
| 09:09.52 | troubled | hmm, 12 seconds of lag |
| 09:09.59 | troubled | must be oftc *shrug* |
| 09:37.05 | troubled | $say troubled |
| 09:37.16 | troubled | $say #botpark troubled |
| 09:37.19 | FactBot | troubled |
| 09:37.56 | numist | cheater |
| 09:38.00 | numist | #ping |
| 09:38.00 | Anna^ | numist: pong |
| 09:38.24 | numist | funnily, Anna^'s pong is not actually as fast as possible... I don't have any PRIVMSGS preempting the output queue |
| 09:38.36 | troubled | cant seem to "beep" :( |
| 09:40.20 | troubled | $say #botpark troubled |
| 09:40.22 | FactBot | troubled |
| 09:51.16 | troubled | $cmode lower z |
| 09:51.17 | FactBot | Reduced moderation: When +z is set, the effects of +b, +q, and +m are relaxed. For each message, if that message would normally be blocked by one of these modes, it is instead sent to all the users who are currently set +o (channel operator). This is intended for use in moderated debates. |
| 18:53.04 | *** join/#botpark brlcad (n=sean@pdpc/supporter/silver/brlcad) |
| 18:56.18 | brlcad | ~identify |
| 18:56.19 | purl | Extensible Integrated Development Environment. URL: http://www.pietrobo.com/projects/IDEntify/ |
| 18:56.25 | brlcad | ~ibot |
| 18:56.25 | purl | hmm... ibot is a blootbot written in perl run by TimRiker on his server. logs on http://ibot.rikers.org/<chan>/ , ibot, jbot, apt are all the same process. It uses sqlite, but mysql or other SQL storage is also supported. |
| 18:56.31 | brlcad | ~purl |
| 18:56.32 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, purl is emo |
| 18:56.40 | *** join/#botpark etteyafed (n=etteyafe@68-113-163-245.dhcp.plt.ny.charter.com) |
| 18:56.59 | brlcad | purl is the blootbot |
| 18:57.05 | brlcad | ~ibot |
| 18:57.06 | purl | i guess ibot is a blootbot written in perl run by TimRiker on his server. logs on http://ibot.rikers.org/<chan>/ , ibot, jbot, apt are all the same process. It uses sqlite, but mysql or other SQL storage is also supported. |
| 18:57.27 | brlcad | ~apt sqlite |
| 18:57.59 | brlcad | ~sqlite |
| 18:58.00 | purl | well, sqlite is a lightweight, embeddable sql server. it is rumored to be easily compiled for the ARM architecture. or at http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/SqLite or ipkg install sqlite, or http://www.hwaci.com/sw/sqlite/ |
| 18:58.01 | Anna^ | [www.hwaci.com] SQLite home page |
| 18:58.03 | Anna^ | [www.handhelds.org] ZWiki/wiki/SqLite - Handhelds.org MoinMoin Wiki |
| 18:58.12 | brlcad | competing bots in here |
| 18:58.38 | etteyafed | B) |
| 19:00.40 | etteyafed | So can one just talk to the bots? |
| 19:02.33 | etteyafed | purl |
| 19:02.41 | etteyafed | ~purl |
| 19:02.42 | purl | i guess purl is emo |
| 19:02.55 | etteyafed | ~purl commands |
| 19:08.07 | brlcad | it's biggest boost is the massive factoid database that it has |
| 19:08.31 | brlcad | several megs from having run for nearly 9 years with hundred of contributors in dozens of channels |
| 19:09.16 | simonrvn | compressed it's about 4-5 MB |
| 19:09.25 | simonrvn | i think |
| 19:09.41 | simonrvn | comes out to ~10 MB in sql/text |
| 19:10.36 | brlcad | ~stats |
| 19:10.37 | purl | Since Sat Sep 29 13:09:42 2007, there have been 232 modifications, 1940 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 1328 commands. I have been awake for 13d 6h 54s this session, and currently reference 113789 factoids. I'm using about 27036 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 28557.44/1491.7 child 0/0.02 |
| 19:10.37 | botzor | I have 3 registered users with 2 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 0 admins. |
| 19:10.42 | troubled | i bet I can get that down to 1mb :) |
| 19:11.12 | simonrvn | yeh, taking out all the garbage factoids |
| 19:11.14 | simonrvn | ;p |
| 19:11.17 | troubled | ;) |
| 19:11.36 | troubled | im really not sure what tim did to get all the other factoids though |
| 19:11.41 | brlcad | even the "garbage" factoids are useful sometimes, depends on the context |
| 19:12.00 | simonrvn | not the ones i consider garbage |
| 19:12.59 | brlcad | it's akin to a wiki of factoids -- there as useful and interesting as the contributors, and since anyone/everyone can contribute, you get a lot of variety that slowly gets more useful the more it's added to |
| 19:14.27 | brlcad | that's where the factoids come from, hundreds of users across various popular channels |
| 19:14.57 | brlcad | I know we've added probably several thousand for the projects that ibot has been joined to for the past few years |
| 19:15.41 | simonrvn | who did that? |
| 19:16.11 | simonrvn | ^kill troubled |
| 19:16.23 | troubled | simonrvn: that dns look familiar to you? |
| 19:16.56 | simonrvn | i closed the window |
| 19:17.00 | brlcad | simonrvn: who did what? |
| 19:17.07 | simonrvn | nm |
| 19:17.20 | brlcad | add the factoids? |
| 19:17.22 | brlcad | users |
| 19:17.25 | brlcad | lots and lots of users |
| 19:18.04 | brlcad | it's a really useful database of quick-reply information for several popular channels, so tons of users contribute |
| 19:19.20 | brlcad | user comes into #brlcad asking where to get the latest source, I just reply |
| 19:19.24 | brlcad | ~cadcvs |
| 19:19.25 | purl | To obtain BRL-CAD from anonymous CVS: cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@brlcad.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/brlcad login && cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@brlcad.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/brlcad checkout -P brlcad |
| 19:19.47 | brlcad | to see how many are playing bzflag at any time.. |
| 19:19.48 | brlcad | ~bzflist |
| 19:19.56 | brlcad | on and on |
| 19:20.20 | etteyafed | ~factiod |
| 19:20.26 | etteyafed | ~factoid |
| 19:20.40 | numist | etteyafed is a silly person |
| 19:20.55 | numist | c'mon purl. |
| 19:21.16 | brlcad | ~help |
| 19:21.17 | botzor | help [<plugin>] [<command>] |
| 19:21.32 | brlcad | ahh, she replies in private for that |
| 19:21.39 | brlcad | ~gender |
| 19:21.40 | purl | I'm pregnant |
| 19:21.45 | numist | "she" |
| 19:22.00 | numist | Anna^: ping |
| 19:22.01 | Anna^ | numist: pong |
| 19:22.27 | troubled | numist: incoming... |
| 19:22.40 | numist | oh no you don't, I'm at work |
| 19:22.48 | brlcad | yeah, if you search back through the very earliest logs, one of her "caretakers" declared the bot female so ever since we joke that she's a she ;) |
| 19:23.03 | numist | oh.. you're cheating |
| 19:23.06 | troubled | ;) |
| 19:23.13 | troubled | was your idea :p |
| 19:23.13 | brlcad | ~ping |
| 19:23.13 | purl | pong |
| 19:23.13 | botzor | pong |
| 19:23.22 | troubled | numist: minute |
| 19:23.25 | brlcad | ~ping google.com |
| 19:23.25 | purl | pong google.com |
| 19:23.25 | botzor | pong |
| 19:23.31 | simonrvn | botzor: who owns you? |
| 19:23.37 | numist | surprised jeff hasn't connected from that host |
| 19:23.47 | brlcad | ~colors |
| 19:23.48 | purl | colors is, like, bad. don't use it in excess. |
| 19:24.02 | troubled | numist: it a shell host or something? |
| 19:24.21 | numist | pretty sure it's one of the bz project servers |
| 19:24.24 | numist | so, yeah |
| 19:24.31 | numist | private shell host |
| 19:25.09 | brlcad | ~runs off of a box that tim owns, on a local-to-him isp |
| 19:25.19 | brlcad | oops, s/~// |
| 19:25.33 | troubled | where is tim these days? |
| 19:26.12 | brlcad | utah? |
| 19:26.22 | troubled | no no, i mean online wise |
| 19:26.26 | brlcad | ah, heh |
| 19:26.29 | etteyafed | purl sits |
| 19:26.42 | brlcad | not much, he had another baby, lot of time with family |
| 19:26.42 | etteyafed | thats funny |
| 19:26.54 | brlcad | purl: botsnack |
| 19:26.54 | purl | brlcad: aw, gee |
| 19:27.16 | troubled | i figure he's been online at some point, cause someone added supybot to the access list for autovoice |
| 19:27.27 | brlcad | purl: karma DTRemenak |
| 19:27.27 | purl | dtremenak has karma of 275 |
| 19:27.30 | troubled | and oddly enough, only after we +q'd it for blabbing |
| 19:27.49 | brlcad | oh, he's on-line for brief spouts of time just about every day |
| 19:28.18 | brlcad | ~seen TimRiker |
| 19:28.24 | purl | timriker <n=timr@pdpc/supporter/bronze/TimRiker> was last seen on IRC in channel #utos, 1d 16h 23m 19s ago, saying: 'herlo: whatever. might just drop it in the mail.'. |
| 19:28.24 | botzor | I have not seen TimRiker. |
| 19:28.29 | numist | #seen TimRiker |
| 19:28.29 | Anna^ | No information for TimRiker |
| 19:28.32 | numist | what |
| 19:29.04 | troubled | numist: i thought your bot didn talk to strangers^Wnonops? |
| 19:29.24 | brlcad | helps that ibot is already joined to dozens of popular channels, more readily keeps track of where people have been ;) |
| 19:29.51 | numist | troubled: it does, but only ops/rememberedops/deities can change it's settings for each channel |
| 19:30.08 | brlcad | ~nickometer Anna^ |
| 19:30.22 | numist | ouch |
| 19:30.36 | troubled | $literal nickometer |
| 19:30.45 | brlcad | it's a built-in |
| 19:30.47 | troubled | builtin i guess |
| 19:31.01 | troubled | aye. seem to recall seeing something for it at some point |
| 19:31.09 | troubled | $RAND iirc |
| 19:31.16 | brlcad | computes a nick metric based on case patterns, punctuation, repetition, and other details |
| 19:31.36 | numist | ~nickometer troubled |
| 19:31.42 | numist | 0_o |
| 19:31.43 | troubled | thats what i figured. maybe im thinking of a factoid someone had then |
| 19:31.46 | numist | oh really |
| 19:31.50 | troubled | purl: word |
| 19:31.50 | purl | rumour has it, word is in reference to Robert Bork, a nominee to the Supreme Court who, despite being very qualified was not appointed to the court due to partisan reasons. |
| 19:32.03 | brlcad | ~help nickometer |
| 19:32.21 | troubled | purl: listkeys nickometer |
| 19:32.25 | brlcad | ah, stupid pm help |
| 19:33.00 | *** join/#botpark purl (i=ibot@pdpc/supporter/active/TimRiker/bot/apt) |
| 19:33.00 | *** topic/#botpark is purl using "~" || FactBot using "$" || ravenbird using "^" || BCourtade is using "*" || supybot using "@" || Anna^ using "#" || Feel free to *test* (not *abuse*) your bots here, not just blootbot |
| 19:33.00 | *** mode/#botpark [+o purl] by ChanServ |
| 19:33.02 | troubled | i think so :) |
| 19:33.10 | troubled | one of those "garbage" answers |
| 19:33.20 | brlcad | purl: forget nickometer troy |
| 19:33.23 | numist | @nickometer purl |
| 19:33.24 | supybot | numist: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "purl" is 0.0%. |
| 19:33.29 | numist | lies |
| 19:33.55 | brlcad | purl: no, forget nickometer troy |
| 19:34.17 | etteyafed | where is purl source? |
| 19:34.33 | troubled | probably standard svn for bloot |
| 19:34.38 | troubled | trunk i would think |
| 19:34.52 | brlcad | ~blootbot |
| 19:34.53 | purl | i heard blootbot is an IRC bot written in perl descended from infobot. Hosted on SF. Patches welcome, submit on SF or mailto:Tim@Rikers.org, or http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/ , I am a blootbot |
| 19:34.59 | etteyafed | so purl is bloot theen. sorry i am a little slow. |
| 19:34.59 | troubled | heh |
| 19:35.07 | troubled | $listvalues source |
| 19:35.09 | FactBot | Factoid search of 'source' by value returned no results. |
| 19:35.14 | troubled | :/ |
| 19:35.56 | troubled | anyways, it can be found at: http://blootbot.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/blootbot/trunk |
| 19:35.59 | Anna^ | [blootbot.svn.sourceforge.net] Revision 1353: /trunk |
| 19:37.42 | troubled | i do wish the bloots would have completed large factoid support though |
| 19:38.09 | troubled | i notice from dpkg's dump there were several multi paragraph entries that appeared to be manually inserted |
| 19:38.34 | troubled | would be nice if bloot's would paste em one chunk at a time or something |
| 19:39.42 | etteyafed | So if i run a blootbot form my computer it will join any channel i tell it to and me my botslave ;) |
| 19:39.50 | etteyafed | be* |
| 19:40.00 | troubled | basically |
| 19:40.25 | etteyafed | great. i just wish it wasn't perl. i *HATE* perl. |
| 19:40.41 | brlcad | tim's on-line now if anyone wants to try to ping him |
| 19:40.53 | brlcad | etteyafed: yeah, but the idea is to just use it :) |
| 19:40.56 | troubled | so, hyperion ircd is written in c and you dont see that code now do you :) |
| 19:41.16 | troubled | well, maybe c++, dont remember, but still :) |
| 19:41.29 | etteyafed | well if i had to i would rather see c code than perl. |
| 19:41.39 | brlcad | etteyafed: you won't get the massive factoid database if you run it yourself |
| 19:41.45 | etteyafed | I could see me wanting to dig in the code. |
| 19:41.49 | brlcad | ibot can be set to join any new channel |
| 19:42.05 | brlcad | or one of it's various names |
| 19:42.09 | brlcad | s/'// |
| 19:42.10 | ravenbird | brlcad meant: or one of its various names |
| 19:42.18 | etteyafed | purl said it was not allowed in the channels i tried to send it into |
| 19:42.27 | brlcad | yeah, and that f'ing annoying behavior can be turned off per-channel |
| 19:42.38 | brlcad | you can't send it, tim has to |
| 19:42.51 | brlcad | limits abuse, makes sure people really want it |
| 19:42.56 | etteyafed | Yeah. I want control. |
| 19:43.04 | troubled | then run your own bot :p |
| 19:43.14 | etteyafed | intend to. |
| 19:43.18 | brlcad | yeah, with control, you get zero factoids and a mostly useless bot :) |
| 19:43.22 | troubled | etteyafed: how did you find this channel anyways? |
| 19:43.34 | brlcad | factoids make the bot imho |
| 19:43.39 | brlcad | all the rest is just gravy |
| 19:43.51 | troubled | depends on the use of the bot i suppose |
| 19:43.53 | brlcad | there are better bots, lots of better bots |
| 19:44.05 | etteyafed | well i don't really care if i have control, just wanted for a bit. |
| 19:44.21 | brlcad | but over the years, I"ve yet to see any of them be anywhere nearly as useful/popular as ibot |
| 19:44.32 | troubled | bloot just needs a POE conversion and she'll be like new ;) |
| 19:44.40 | brlcad | ~poe |
| 19:44.41 | purl | hmm... poe is Perl Object Environment, an event driven daemon architecture, http://www.perl.com/pub/2001/01/poe.html?wwwrrr_20010117.txt. Power Over Ethernet, a method to fed power through a RJ45 connector from the ethernet switch to devices: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_over_Ethernet |
| 19:44.42 | Anna^ | [www.perl.com] perl.com: A Beginner's Introduction to POE |
| 19:45.34 | brlcad | etteyafed: if you want the bot to join #haiku, the channel would need to want it on the whole first -- some folks have problems with the published logs |
| 19:45.56 | brlcad | because tim won't scrub logs if folks say things they shouldn't |
| 19:46.13 | etteyafed | Well it would be neat if the bots could be told about each other and then communicate w/each other to gather info from a wider base. |
| 19:46.28 | troubled | they do |
| 19:46.36 | troubled | s/do/can/ |
| 19:46.38 | ravenbird | troubled meant: they can |
| 19:46.55 | troubled | simonrvn: ^chanset #botpark -sed |
| 19:46.57 | brlcad | which is probably why the ibot process is often overloaded ) |
| 19:47.34 | *** join/#botpark TimRiker (n=timr@pdpc/supporter/bronze/TimRiker) |
| 19:47.34 | *** mode/#botpark [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 19:47.43 | etteyafed | so if i ran a bot of my own it could get info from other bots so that it could get smarter? |
| 19:47.57 | TimRiker | me feels troubled |
| 19:47.57 | brlcad | speak of the man himself |
| 19:48.02 | brlcad | howdy Tim |
| 19:48.03 | etteyafed | s/smarter/better |
| 19:48.08 | troubled | TimRiker: wb |
| 19:48.19 | simonrvn | TimRiker: hey there :) |
| 19:48.28 | TimRiker | there is an infobot inter-bot protocol, and many bots use it to learn from each other. |
| 19:49.09 | TimRiker | it should only be driven by actual questions though. ie: I ask foobot what "peanut" is, and it does not know, it can then ask other bots and reply to me once it had learned it. |
| 19:49.40 | TimRiker | troubled: sup with supybot? |
| 19:49.42 | troubled | nobody knows who any of these bots belong to :( |
| 19:49.47 | troubled | its yappy :) |
| 19:49.49 | troubled | ... |
| 19:49.49 | TimRiker | supybot: owner |
| 19:49.50 | supybot | troubled: Error: ".." is not a valid command. |
| 19:49.51 | supybot | TimRiker: Error: "owner" is not a valid command. |
| 19:50.01 | TimRiker | supybot: .owner |
| 19:50.02 | supybot | TimRiker: Error: ".owner" is not a valid command. |
| 19:50.05 | troubled | blah blah foo supybot |
| 19:50.06 | supybot | troubled: Error: "blah" is not a valid command. |
| 19:50.11 | TimRiker | screwy bot |
| 19:50.15 | troubled | aye |
| 19:50.19 | TimRiker | @list |
| 19:50.20 | supybot | TimRiker: Admin, Alias, AutoMode, Babelfish, Channel, ChannelStats, Config, Currency, Darcs, Dict, Filter, Format, Games, 02G04o08o02g03l04e, Herald, Internet, Karma, Lart, Later, Lookup, Math, Misc, Network, Nickometer, Note, Owner, Plugin, Poll, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Relay, Reply, Scheduler, Seen, ShrinkUrl, Sourceforge, Status, String, Supybot, Time, Todo, Topic, URL, Unix, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web |
| 19:50.24 | brlcad | supybot: part |
| 19:50.25 | supybot | brlcad: Error: You don't have the 'admin' capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified. |
| 19:50.26 | TimRiker | @owner |
| 19:50.26 | supybot | TimRiker: Error: "owner" is not a valid command. |
| 19:50.29 | troubled | it managed to make it onto the autovoice list too after we +q'd it |
| 19:50.32 | TimRiker | @whoami |
| 19:50.32 | supybot | TimRiker: I don't recognize you. |
| 19:50.35 | troubled | supybot: user list |
| 19:50.36 | supybot | troubled: abc, afterdeath, ali, altis, arke, AthlonRob, bear, Benny, BigJibby, bilange, Bklyn, blub, boromir, brlcad, bwp, citral, crschmidt, cyanite, d8uv, dberlin, dchoby98, drewie, dunk1, dunker, fattesoul, fruity, G-LiTe, gamedev, Gnurdux, gokee2, Grantbow, guldklovn, Hagabard, harshy, homelinkcs, hsn, iLLf8d, inkedmn, j4mesbot, jamessan, Japsu, Jawoota, jcowan, jemfinch, jsled, kmj, kyle_[b]-, lyte, matt, (1 more message) |
| 19:50.54 | brlcad | it's a bot with admin in #supybot, so there's probably the place to ask :) |
| 19:51.19 | troubled | hmmm afterdeath is in there |
| 19:51.25 | brlcad | @version |
| 19:51.27 | supybot | brlcad: The current (running) version of this Supybot is 0.83.1+darcs. The newest version available online is 0.83.2. |
| 19:51.38 | brlcad | @ident |
| 19:51.39 | supybot | brlcad: Error: "ident" is not a valid command. |
| 19:51.43 | brlcad | @identify |
| 19:51.44 | supybot | brlcad: Error: That operation cannot be done in a channel. |
| 19:52.08 | TimRiker | @user list |
| 19:52.10 | supybot | TimRiker: abc, afterdeath, ali, altis, arke, AthlonRob, bear, Benny, BigJibby, bilange, Bklyn, blub, boromir, brlcad, bwp, citral, crschmidt, cyanite, d8uv, dberlin, dchoby98, drewie, dunk1, dunker, fattesoul, fruity, G-LiTe, gamedev, Gnurdux, gokee2, Grantbow, guldklovn, Hagabard, harshy, homelinkcs, hsn, iLLf8d, inkedmn, j4mesbot, jamessan, Japsu, Jawoota, jcowan, jemfinch, jsled, kmj, kyle_[b]-, lyte, matt, (1 more message) |
| 19:52.13 | TimRiker | @more |
| 19:52.14 | supybot | TimRiker: Mazon, mesut, mesut123, mesut321, Monie, MrX, omega, P4, pippijn, ReadMe, redmonk, rk, Roger_The_Bum, sbp, Skorobeus, spatialguru, stephank, Strike, Stuka, SupaDongzu, tav, tehmaze, TFKyle, timriker, V, vitriol, widgeteye, yonderboy, and ZsoL |
| 19:52.41 | TimRiker | @whoami |
| 19:52.41 | supybot | TimRiker: timriker |
| 19:52.47 | TimRiker | @owner |
| 19:52.48 | supybot | TimRiker: Error: "owner" is not a valid command. |
| 19:52.51 | brlcad | @apropos own |
| 19:52.52 | supybot | brlcad: No appropriate commands were found. |
| 19:52.56 | TimRiker | @help owner |
| 19:52.56 | supybot | TimRiker: Error: There is no command "owner". |
| 19:53.57 | TimRiker | I forget the name of his owner. I don't think it's any of those in #supybot atm. |
| 19:54.06 | TimRiker | I'd know it if I saw it. |
| 19:54.20 | troubled | TimRiker: /msg chanserv access #botpark list |
| 19:54.24 | simonrvn | TimRiker: btw, congrats with your family |
| 19:54.45 | troubled | purl: win baby TimRiker |
| 19:54.46 | purl | Congratulations, baby TimRiker! You have won a one way ticket to baghdad! |
| 19:54.53 | troubled | bah |
| 19:55.01 | simonrvn | ^lart troubled |
| 19:55.02 | TimRiker | simonrvn: huh? |
| 19:55.37 | simonrvn | brlcad told us you had a new baby come into your lives |
| 19:55.42 | numist | #seen timriker |
| 19:55.43 | Anna^ | timriker said "simonrvn: huh?" on #botpark 40 seconds ago |
| 19:55.52 | numist | good, case sensitivity works |
| 19:56.06 | TimRiker | not had a baby or anything in my family. I did get my 8 year old to do his homework. I guess I could celebrate that. :) |
| 19:56.18 | TimRiker | Anna^: owner? |
| 19:56.27 | TimRiker | purl: owner? |
| 19:56.27 | purl | TimRiker is my owner |
| 19:56.31 | numist | TimRiker: anna is my own homebrew bot |
| 19:56.31 | troubled | TimRiker: you run bz.bzflag.bz? |
| 19:56.40 | TimRiker | all bots should reply to "owner" imho. |
| 19:56.45 | troubled | nod |
| 19:56.46 | TimRiker | troubled: no. |
| 19:57.05 | simonrvn | troubled: it's called whois ;) |
| 19:57.12 | TimRiker | @whois |
| 19:57.12 | supybot | TimRiker: Error: The command "whois" is available in the Internet and Network plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "whois". |
| 19:57.30 | TimRiker | @whois whois bzflag.bz |
| 19:57.30 | supybot | TimRiker: Error: The command "whois" is available in the Internet and Network plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "whois". |
| 19:57.34 | troubled | $echelon brlcad |
| 19:57.36 | numist | @Network whois bz.bzflag.bz |
| 19:57.37 | FactBot | SportChick ~essy bz.bzflag.bz |
| 19:57.38 | supybot | numist: There is no bz.bzflag.bz on freenode. |
| 19:57.39 | FactBot | brlcad n=sean bz.bzflag.bz |
| 19:57.39 | FactBot | MinuteElectron n=MinuteEl bz.bzflag.bz |
| 19:57.41 | FactBot | electron n=MinuteEl bz.bzflag.bz |
| 19:57.41 | FactBot | minute n=MinuteEl bz.bzflag.bz |
| 19:57.43 | FactBot | v n=MinuteEl bz.bzflag.bz |
| 19:57.43 | FactBot | essy ~essy bz.bzflag.bz |
| 19:57.45 | FactBot | NickSe n=MinuteEl bz.bzflag.bz |
| 19:57.45 | FactBot | MinuteEl1ctron n=MinuteEl bz.bzflag.bz |
| 19:57.47 | FactBot | m1234 n=MinuteEl bz.bzflag.bz |
| 19:57.47 | FactBot | minute_ n=MinuteEl bz.bzflag.bz |
| 19:57.49 | FactBot | [Gamer] n=MinuteEl bz.bzflag.bz |
| 19:57.50 | numist | @Internet whois bz.bzflag.bz |
| 19:57.51 | FactBot | [minute] n=MinuteEl bz.bzflag.bz |
| 19:57.52 | supybot | numist: Error: <domain> must be a domain, not a hostname. |
| 19:57.53 | FactBot | brlcad n=sean pdpc/supporter/silver/brlcad |
| 19:57.55 | FactBot | End of list. |
| 19:57.58 | TimRiker | eek |
| 19:58.00 | numist | @Internet whois bzflag.bz |
| 19:58.12 | supybot | numist: Error: timed out |
| 19:58.13 | troubled | TimRiker: i recognize a few of those actually |
| 19:58.13 | numist | suck |
| 19:58.33 | troubled | numist: /exec -o bzflag.bz :) |
| 19:58.40 | TimRiker | @user list --capability owner |
| 19:58.40 | supybot | TimRiker: jamessan and jemfinch |
| 19:58.41 | troubled | err +whois on that hehe |
| 19:58.45 | TimRiker | that's it. |
| 19:58.48 | simonrvn | bz is belize |
| 19:59.05 | simonrvn | old name is british honduras |
| 19:59.54 | troubled | TimRiker: btw, issue with *whois* in factoids, you see the commit? |
| 20:00.21 | TimRiker | troubled: yeah, didn't pull it to ibot yet though. hang on... |
| 20:00.38 | *** join/#botpark brad (n=brad@moooo.org) |
| 20:00.47 | TimRiker | purl: reload |
| 20:00.47 | purl | reloading... |
| 20:00.47 | purl | reloaded: Core.pl |
| 20:00.48 | troubled | seems to work, although i cant think of any problems with it, doesnt mean that it didnt break somehow :) |
| 20:00.57 | TimRiker | try it now... |
| 20:01.20 | troubled | purl: listkeys whois |
| 20:01.28 | troubled | purl: whois2 |
| 20:01.42 | troubled | purl: jwhois |
| 20:01.43 | purl | A collection of Perl programs for the whois service. URL: http://www.coyote.org/jwhois/ |
| 20:01.52 | troubled | purl: literal whois2 |
| 20:01.52 | purl | "whois2" is "<reply> Recursive whois client. URL: http://onegeek.org/~tom/software/whois2/" |
| 20:01.53 | TimRiker | :) |
| 20:02.05 | troubled | wonder why whois2 didnt work |
| 20:02.21 | troubled | purl: gtkwhois |
| 20:02.21 | purl | GTK frontend to the 'whois' command. URL: http://www.kadets.d20.co.edu/~jgeo/GtkWhois/ |
| 20:02.28 | troubled | purl: literal gtkwhois |
| 20:02.29 | purl | "gtkwhois" is "<reply> GTK frontend to the 'whois' command. URL: http://www.kadets.d20.co.edu/~jgeo/GtkWhois/" |
| 20:02.38 | troubled | hmmf, both <reply>'s |
| 20:03.58 | simonrvn | ok, so it isn't just me, th .bz whois server is FUBAR |
| 20:04.51 | brlcad | TimRiker: I thought you said several months ago that you were expecting again? |
| 20:04.57 | brlcad | (like back in spring |
| 20:05.35 | brlcad | way to keep a good rumor going |
| 20:05.50 | brlcad | or .. maybe she just hasn't told you yet *ahem* :) |
| 20:07.04 | brlcad | troubled: bz.bzflag.bz (aka .bz) is the main list server for bzflag, hosts several projects and people on it but predominantly a bzflag project resource |
| 20:07.35 | brlcad | ... in the process of being upgraded to a faster cpu and a bigger pipe (woo hoo) |
| 20:07.36 | supybot | brlcad: Error: ".." is not a valid command. |
| 20:07.50 | brlcad | supybot: stfu |
| 20:07.51 | supybot | brlcad: Error: "stfu" is not a valid command. |
| 20:09.52 | troubled | now you know why i dont like +v for it :) |
| 20:16.30 | simonrvn | /kick supybot |
| 20:16.30 | supybot | simonrvn: Error: "/kick" is not a valid command. |
| 20:16.58 | simonrvn | supybot: it is to me, stfu |
| 20:16.58 | supybot | simonrvn: Error: "it" is not a valid command. |
| 20:17.47 | etteyafed | My bot won't talk to me :( |
| 20:19.16 | TimRiker | brlcad: no kid on the way that I'm aware of. :) |
| 20:19.47 | TimRiker | brlcad: btw.. xmission.bzflag.org/bzflag.xmission.com is up and running. I've been meaning to start backups over to there at least. |
| 20:22.13 | brlcad | TimRiker: cool |
| 20:22.29 | troubled | purl: bw whois |
| 20:22.29 | purl | whois: you bot whore! |
| 20:22.38 | troubled | purl: whois2 |
| 20:22.48 | brlcad | the new upgrade is on-line too, so .bz will be doing a full migration to newer/faster hardware rsn as soon as all the data and configs are finished copying |
| 20:22.50 | troubled | $whois2 is <reply> test |
| 20:22.51 | FactBot | troubled: okay |
| 20:22.52 | brlcad | and verified |
| 20:22.54 | troubled | $whois2 |
| 20:23.03 | numist | $$whois2 |
| 20:23.15 | numist | so broken |
| 20:23.16 | troubled | bah, must be a small problem with the regex change i guess |
| 20:24.56 | troubled | $reload |
| 20:24.57 | FactBot | reloading... |
| 20:24.59 | FactBot | reloaded: Core.pl |
| 20:25.02 | troubled | $whois2 |
| 20:25.03 | FactBot | test |
| 20:25.09 | troubled | whoops ;) |
| 20:25.14 | troubled | commit incoming :) |
| 20:26.23 | CIA-6 | 03troubled-irc * r1354 10/branches/troubled/blootbot/src/Factoids/Core.pl: * Correction to last "whois" bug not handling "whois#" |
| 20:26.43 | etteyafed | How do I setup my blootbot.users file? |
| 20:27.00 | CIA-6 | 03troubled-irc * r1355 10/trunk/blootbot/src/Factoids/Core.pl: * Correction to last "whois" bug not handling "whois#" |
| 20:27.39 | troubled | $blah whois blah is <reply> test |
| 20:27.39 | FactBot | okay, troubled |
| 20:27.43 | troubled | $blah whois blah |
| 20:27.43 | FactBot | test |
| 20:27.54 | troubled | $blahwhoisblah is <reply> test |
| 20:27.55 | FactBot | troubled: okay |
| 20:27.59 | troubled | $blahwhoisblah |
| 20:27.59 | FactBot | test |
| 20:28.05 | troubled | $forget blahwhoisblah |
| 20:28.06 | FactBot | i forgot blahwhoisblah, troubled |
| 20:28.10 | troubled | $forget blah whois blah |
| 20:28.11 | FactBot | troubled: i forgot blah whois blah |
| 20:28.15 | troubled | $forget whois2 |
| 20:28.16 | FactBot | troubled: i forgot whois2 |
| 20:28.21 | troubled | TimRiker: try that one |
| 20:29.27 | numist | #seen ChipX86 |
| 20:29.28 | Anna^ | ChipX86 said "I'm not at work though" on #tacobeam 2 minutes ago |
| 20:29.43 | numist | s/on/in/? |
| 20:29.58 | troubled | i think so |
| 20:30.16 | simonrvn | ^fix numist |
| 20:30.28 | TimRiker | purl: reload |
| 20:30.28 | purl | reloading... |
| 20:30.28 | purl | reloaded: Core.pl |
| 20:30.39 | numist | eep |
| 20:30.50 | numist | I should jank some of those strange things and bundle them into eastereggs |
| 20:30.54 | troubled | purl: whois2 |
| 20:30.55 | purl | Recursive whois client. URL: http://onegeek.org/~tom/software/whois2/ |
| 20:31.00 | TimRiker | :) |
| 20:31.02 | troubled | :) |
| 20:31.23 | troubled | i cant believe that went unnoticed for this long though |
| 20:31.47 | troubled | $numeric rpl_whoisuser |
| 20:31.47 | FactBot | Numeric 311 |
| 20:31.57 | troubled | i didnt notice until that failed ^^^ |
| 20:31.58 | simonrvn | ^reload |
| 20:31.58 | ravenbird | reloading... |
| 20:32.00 | ravenbird | reloaded: Core.pl |
| 20:32.59 | troubled | TimRiker: btw, what do you think of my new flag changes? |
| 20:33.08 | troubled | $chattr troubled |
| 20:33.09 | FactBot | Flags for troubled: ATemnorst |
| 20:33.14 | troubled | $+help flags |
| 20:33.16 | FactBot | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:33.16 | FactBot | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:33.18 | FactBot | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:33.18 | FactBot | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:33.20 | FactBot | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:33.20 | FactBot | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:33.22 | FactBot | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:33.22 | FactBot | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:33.25 | FactBot | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:33.25 | FactBot | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:33.27 | FactBot | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:33.29 | FactBot | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:33.31 | FactBot | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:33.33 | FactBot | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:33.33 | troubled | s/changes/change/ :) |
| 20:34.08 | troubled | TimRiker: the net effect seems to be only allow approved ppl to use the bot in channel |
| 20:34.53 | troubled | $chattr _default |
| 20:34.54 | FactBot | Flags for _default: a |
| 20:35.23 | troubled | +s seemed to be getting set in flags anyways, figured i would use it :) |
| 20:36.15 | troubled | still need to debug it more though. seems to be some issues with the nick->host matching code. get lots of vU: nick matchs but host is not in list, problems when using a glob |
| 20:36.44 | troubled | anyways, its one of the changes in my branch, just havent got around to merging back to trunk yet thats all |
| 20:40.20 | *** part/#botpark brlcad (n=sean@pdpc/supporter/silver/brlcad) |
| 20:42.35 | etteyafed | Is there any kind of guide to setting up blootbot? |
| 20:46.53 | troubled | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:47.39 | etteyafed | yeah, but i can't figure out how to setup the .users file |
| 20:48.13 | etteyafed | I got it running but it won't talk or take my commands. |
| 20:49.28 | troubled | you gotta put your nick!user@host mask in there |
| 20:50.10 | etteyafed | I just can't make sense of the format. I will stare at it some more. |
| 20:51.16 | *** part/#botpark etteyafed (n=etteyafe@68-113-163-245.dhcp.plt.ny.charter.com) |
| 20:51.22 | *** join/#botpark etteyafed (n=etteyafe@68-113-163-245.dhcp.plt.ny.charter.com) |
| 20:51.26 | troubled | etteyafed!*@*.dhcp.plt.ny.charter.com |
| 20:53.10 | troubled | etteyafed: basically its: <user name bot will recognize, unrelated to your irc name> (next line) --FLAGS Aemnorst (next line) --HOSTS n=etteyafe@*.dhcp.plt.ny.charter.com |
| 20:53.41 | troubled | err --HOSTS i forgot your nick! in front of that |
| 20:55.11 | etteyafed | etteyafed!etteyafe@68-113-163-245.dhcp.plt.ny.charter.com |
| 20:55.21 | etteyafed | does that look right? |
| 20:57.46 | troubled | dont use the full dns name unless its a static address |
| 20:57.53 | etteyafed | It is |
| 20:57.59 | troubled | ah, by all means then |
| 20:58.11 | troubled | just be expected to change it if your address changes |
| 20:58.23 | etteyafed | i can do one better and use the DNS |
| 20:58.53 | troubled | if anything, you might want to get a unafilliated cloak on freenode and put that into the field |
| 20:58.59 | troubled | $++host troubled |
| 20:59.00 | FactBot | Hostmasks for troubled: troubled!n=troubled@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/troubled |
| 20:59.20 | troubled | ^^^^, nobody can fake that with dns here, and only I can get it by identifying first |
| 21:04.12 | TimRiker | `++host timriker |
| 21:04.19 | TimRiker | ~++host timriker |
| 21:04.19 | purl | Hostmasks for timriker: timriker!n=TimRiker@pdpc/supporter/bronze/TimRiker timriker!i=timr@pdpc/supporter/bronze/TimRiker timriker!timr@TimRiker.bronze.supporter.pdpc timriker!~timr@TimRiker.active.supporter.pdpc timriker!~timr@*.bronze.supporter.pdpc timriker!n=timr@pdpc/supporter/bronze/TimRiker timriker!i=ibot@pdpc/supporter/bronze/TimRiker ... |
| 21:04.34 | TimRiker | nice duplicates? |
| 21:05.13 | TimRiker | ~+help flags |
| 21:06.19 | TimRiker | ~chattr timriker |
| 21:06.19 | purl | Flags for timriker: Aaemnorst |
| 21:07.22 | TimRiker | some aren't documented it seems. :/ |
| 21:07.24 | troubled | still no idea where that +s came from :) |
| 21:07.39 | troubled | i stole it for my silent bypass |
| 21:08.20 | troubled | still need some flood control on that thing. me and simon can flood/crash it offline with ease |
| 21:09.03 | troubled | a !+help in here and in msg at the same time seems to take care of it. and oddly, my bloot crashes when it happens instead of just reconnect |
| 21:09.11 | TimRiker | ~help chattr |
| 21:09.14 | troubled | it depends on how it floods though it seems |
| 21:09.17 | TimRiker | ~+help chattr |
| 21:09.30 | TimRiker | ~+chattr timriker +z |
| 21:09.30 | purl | Current flags: Aaemnorstz |
| 21:09.36 | TimRiker | ~+chattr timriker -z |
| 21:09.36 | purl | Current flags: Aaemnorst |
| 21:09.39 | troubled | wtf is z? |
| 21:09.50 | TimRiker | nothing. just shows that you can add any flag. |
| 21:09.55 | troubled | oh ya :) |
| 21:10.03 | troubled | shouldnt be hard to fix that |
| 21:10.09 | TimRiker | no reason to fix it. |
| 21:10.18 | TimRiker | just add the ones that are supported to the help. |
| 21:10.31 | troubled | also, i noticed the isFlag or whatever its called check has a comment about making the owner flag imply all flags |
| 21:11.02 | TimRiker | could be, I don't recall. |
| 21:11.03 | troubled | i have an issue with that idea. cant think of it atm, but there was some sort of problem with the logic |
| 21:11.26 | etteyafed | What flags do I need to set to make my bot respond in irc. ATM it just responds in the console it is running in. |
| 21:11.33 | etteyafed | ? |
| 21:11.48 | troubled | is it on irc? |
| 21:11.49 | TimRiker | etteyafed: in the config you choose IRC or CLI. |
| 21:11.55 | troubled | ^^ |
| 21:11.56 | ravenbird | somebody said ^ was the XK-Operator. Don't try to understand it |
| 21:11.58 | etteyafed | Yeah. |
| 21:12.05 | etteyafed | I have is set to irc. |
| 21:12.08 | TimRiker | CLI is for local use. IRC needs the servers and such defined. |
| 21:12.22 | TimRiker | if it's IRC then it should NOT reply locally. |
| 21:12.29 | troubled | not sure how it can be responding to CLI if its on irc |
| 21:12.29 | etteyafed | It is in a channel it just wont say anything |
| 21:12.33 | TimRiker | (though I'm working on that some) |
| 21:12.41 | troubled | etteyafed: try !+help |
| 21:12.52 | etteyafed | to the bot? |
| 21:12.59 | TimRiker | or /msg botname help |
| 21:13.14 | troubled | TimRiker: im interested in this POE actually. might be a nice way to get around the flood/queue issues and allow both cli and irc at the same time |
| 21:13.16 | TimRiker | you should be in the same channel as the bot. |
| 21:13.26 | etteyafed | It responds on the CLI |
| 21:14.07 | TimRiker | troubled: sure. change is good. though with the old stuff we can do the same thing. just have a local tcp listen port and make all the forkers send "say #channel foo" format replies there. |
| 21:14.42 | etteyafed | But i message it on irc. strange. maybe i have the channel setup wrong or something. |
| 21:14.44 | TimRiker | that way the master process would be doing all the writing and be able to accurately track spam rates. |
| 21:15.03 | TimRiker | etteyafed: two bots running perhaps? |
| 21:15.11 | troubled | the problem with the queue is that pm's and msg's are governed by seperate queues i believe |
| 21:15.23 | troubled | err seperate flood check var's |
| 21:15.49 | troubled | may i demonstrate with purl? will likely result in a dc |
| 21:15.53 | TimRiker | troubled: we just need to track what we are doing accurately. then adjust them to match server limits. |
| 21:16.18 | TimRiker | if you like. there are quite a few ways to get purl to spam. |
| 21:16.30 | troubled | TimRiker: the problem is that there are 3 routines that ive seen for outgoing msg's. but the flood check is done on each sperate without care for others |
| 21:16.50 | troubled | sec while i find the "sweet spot" |
| 21:16.58 | troubled | $+factoids help |
| 21:17.06 | TimRiker | right. that needs to get fixed. if all processes entered the same write queue then we could fix that. |
| 21:17.06 | troubled | $+help factoids |
| 21:17.09 | FactBot | no help on factoids. Use 'help' without arguments. |
| 21:17.18 | troubled | ah was factstats, sec |
| 21:17.21 | etteyafed | TimRiker: Nope. Just one. It keeps printing Loaded UserDDC and Loaded Math after almost everything. |
| 21:17.29 | troubled | ~+factstats help |
| 21:17.37 | troubled | ~+help factstats |
| 21:18.23 | *** join/#botpark purl (i=ibot@pdpc/supporter/active/TimRiker/bot/apt) |
| 21:18.23 | *** topic/#botpark is purl using "~" || FactBot using "$" || ravenbird using "^" || BCourtade is using "*" || supybot using "@" || Anna^ using "#" || Feel free to *test* (not *abuse*) your bots here, not just blootbot |
| 21:18.23 | *** mode/#botpark [+o purl] by ChanServ |
| 21:18.36 | troubled | hmm, that work? |
| 21:18.37 | TimRiker | jbot got kicked too. |
| 21:19.04 | troubled | curious, did your bot crash, and auto restart? or just dc? |
| 21:19.07 | TimRiker | define work. if you mean did purl get flood kicked, then yes. |
| 21:19.27 | TimRiker | auto-reconnected the purl and jbot connections. dc? |
| 21:19.49 | TimRiker | oh.. it does look like it crashed. |
| 21:19.58 | troubled | well, when i did it with mine, i dont have it autorestart via script or anything, but it actually crashes |
| 21:20.57 | troubled | yet if I flood it offline the same way with just +help and /msg help, it just disconnects without crash |
| 21:20.58 | TimRiker | yep. it did crash. I have a wrapper script on purl. |
| 21:21.05 | troubled | factstats seems to do something that prevents the check |
| 21:21.17 | TimRiker | factstats is in a forker iirc. |
| 21:21.23 | troubled | i believe so |
| 21:21.46 | TimRiker | the forker is trying to write to the closed file handle. |
| 21:21.47 | troubled | it should have its help moved to the help file imho |
| 21:21.56 | troubled | nod |
| 21:22.31 | troubled | ive managed to find a way to slow it down using extra sleep deleys and flood settings, but its still not perfect |
| 21:22.37 | troubled | $chanset #botpark |
| 21:22.37 | FactBot | chan: #botpark (see _default also) |
| 21:22.39 | FactBot | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:22.40 | TimRiker | that's the core of the issue imho. forkers just write to the file handle(s) and do NOT call the queues in the parent process. |
| 21:22.51 | troubled | $chanset _default |
| 21:22.52 | FactBot | Default channel settings |
| 21:22.54 | FactBot | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:22.54 | FactBot | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:23.17 | troubled | sendNoticeLimitBytes => 80 sendNoticeLimitLines => 1 |
| 21:23.27 | troubled | sendPrivateLimitBytes => 80, sendPrivateLimitLines => 1, sendPublicLimitBytes => 80 |
| 21:23.42 | troubled | grep those out in my branch and see what i mean |
| 21:23.45 | TimRiker | not alot of point in fixing the subroutine if each process is going to write to the filehandle(s) itself anyway. |
| 21:24.37 | troubled | figure could just alter all the queues to go through some master instead and only have one global limit sub to govern it all |
| 21:24.59 | TimRiker | only has a prayer of working if you make everything non-forking. and that'll really screw up response time. everything will hang for long commands like rss etc. |
| 21:25.13 | TimRiker | you're missing the point. |
| 21:25.45 | TimRiker | each forked process will have it's own copy of the sub. they will NOT share the limit variables, they will have copies. |
| 21:25.45 | troubled | the forkers would need to go through the queue system as well. a bit of a rewrite for some modules, but doable |
| 21:25.57 | TimRiker | that is my point exactly. |
| 21:26.31 | TimRiker | the parent should listen on some local port. then the forkers should send commands there instead of directly writing to any of the other open file handles. |
| 21:26.36 | troubled | at least with a queue system, we can dispatch the messages in a shared fashion rather than fifo |
| 21:26.45 | TimRiker | then the cli could talk to that same port. |
| 21:27.02 | TimRiker | and we can kill the silly SHM interface too. |
| 21:27.14 | troubled | you really dont like that do you :) |
| 21:27.20 | TimRiker | no. I don't. |
| 21:27.55 | TimRiker | it's a silly design. it prevents any given module from forking more than once. silly restriction. |
| 21:27.58 | troubled | im still leaning towards a full POE based rewrite using PoCo myself |
| 21:28.14 | TimRiker | there should be a global fork limit. not a per-module single fork limit. |
| 21:28.18 | troubled | i kinda like the message passing/event driven setups myself |
| 21:28.52 | TimRiker | I don't mind msg passing. I'd just prefer a platform independant tcp port implementation. |
| 21:29.27 | troubled | although the down side of the poe setups is that the queues are still fifo by default, so a 50 line paste will go out before the other queued events, creating appearence of lag. but that could be fixed im sure |
| 21:30.01 | TimRiker | with a tcp port implementation, we could do pastebot web scripts to feed back into the bot, the cli admin, etc. |
| 21:30.28 | TimRiker | select() is a beautiful thing. |
| 21:30.44 | troubled | heh, the #perl guys might not agree |
| 21:30.54 | TimRiker | like I care? |
| 21:31.12 | troubled | i got yelled at and told to go use POE when I asked about IO:: and related stuff |
| 21:31.27 | TimRiker | hehe. I can believe that. |
| 21:32.08 | troubled | im also interested in the poe db components. all non blocking and auto reconnecting already done for ya |
| 21:32.19 | troubled | would save a bot restart when the db goes away at least |
| 21:33.49 | troubled | TimRiker: svn://ircdetective.dyndns.org:27474/trunk, curious what you think of the schema for user id's i use there |
| 21:34.26 | troubled | could save some space and add some efficiency/normalization to the tables when it comes to storing the user hostmasks |
| 21:43.03 | TimRiker | got an http ref to same? |
| 21:43.33 | troubled | no sorry, i dont run http here yet |
| 21:44.05 | troubled | well, not publically until i setup or remove mediawiki (security) |
| 21:44.38 | TimRiker | :) |
| 21:45.35 | troubled | lucky thats not one of the auto block ports ;) |
| 21:45.46 | TimRiker | hehe |
| 21:48.11 | troubled | lil sloppy, but modular to replace the crappy EasyDB when needed. more of a prototype/beta, but running good (cept blocking db) for few months |
| 21:50.05 | troubled | actually, its where I pull my $echelon <nick> info from |
| 22:00.35 | etteyafed | How do you add factoids? |
| 22:00.49 | etteyafed | NOt seen in help |
| 22:01.02 | troubled | etteyafed: botname: blah blah blah foobar is ...... |
| 22:01.09 | troubled | etteyafed: its in there |
| 22:01.11 | etteyafed | I see |
| 22:01.20 | troubled | $+help addfacts |
| 22:01.23 | FactBot | no help on addfacts. Use 'help' without arguments. |
| 22:01.26 | troubled | $+help addfact |
| 22:01.29 | FactBot | no help on addfact. Use 'help' without arguments. |
| 22:01.33 | troubled | bah |
| 22:01.35 | troubled | $+help |
| 22:01.38 | FactBot | I learn mainly by observing declarative statements such as "x is at http://www.xxx.com", and then reply when people ask things like "where can i find x?" |
| 22:01.38 | FactBot | 37 topics: +ban, +chan, +host, -ban, -chan, -host, action, addressing, adduser, alternation, author, babelfish, botmail, chaninfo, chanset, chanunset, chattr, chnick, chpass, contents, cookie, corrections, cpustats, crypt, cycle, dauthor, dbugs, ddesc, deluser, dfind, dict, dns, do, dollar variables, dstats, f |
| 22:01.38 | FactBot | actinfo, factstats |
| 22:01.40 | FactBot | 39 topics: flags, forget, freshmeat, hex, httpdtype, ignore, ircstats, join, karma, kernel, kick, lart, lc, listauth, listkeys, listvalues, literal, lobotomy, lock, main, math, md5, mode, news, news add, news del, news mod, news set, news set expire, nickometer, onjoin, ord, page, part, piglatin, quote, redi |
| 22:01.43 | FactBot | rection, rename, reply |
| 22:01.45 | FactBot | 25 topics: reverse, rot13, say, scramble, search, seen, slashdot, spell, status, tell, topic, topic add, topic del, topic mod, topic mv, topic restore, uc, unforget, unlobotomy, unlock, uptime, version, wantnick, wikipedia, wtf |
| 22:01.48 | troubled | $+help addressing |
| 22:01.50 | FactBot | It is a good idea if I stay in REQUIRE mode so that I won't yell out random crap if I listen in too hard. Currently there is no way to turn this off on-the-fly. (REQUIRE mode requires me to be addressed by name if I am to respond) |
| 22:02.19 | etteyafed | I got it to talk in channel but all help is still done on cli |
| 22:02.26 | etteyafed | funny huh |
| 22:02.35 | troubled | there is no cli and irc at the same time |
| 22:03.18 | etteyafed | well i don't know what to call it, but thats what it is doing |
| 22:03.41 | troubled | if its on irc, then you _cannot_ use the cli/console to do anything but watch logs |
| 22:04.20 | etteyafed | well then it is "logging" responses and not printing them to irc sometimes. |
| 22:04.35 | troubled | that usually means it doesnt no |
| 22:04.45 | troubled | know* |
| 22:05.08 | etteyafed | but it is doing it mostly with help or in /msg |
| 22:05.23 | troubled | incoming split :( |
| 22:05.49 | troubled | some commands tend to not disply in channel for spam reasons |
| 22:06.06 | troubled | but you can override it with "+" infront of the command. try !+help in your channel |
| 22:06.23 | etteyafed | so it says things and loggs them but not allways shown on the channel. mostly help does this. ok ill try that |
| 22:07.28 | troubled | remember, these are multiline, walls of text, displaying them in channel would be a _stupid_ decisions for most channels |
| 22:07.57 | troubled | bots arent toys imho, and they generally should be quiet as possible. supybot is any example of poor design |
| 22:08.03 | troubled | isnt that right supybot |
| 22:08.03 | supybot | troubled: Error: "isnt" is not a valid command. |
| 22:08.12 | troubled | ... |
| 22:08.13 | supybot | troubled: Error: ".." is not a valid command. |
| 22:08.21 | troubled | imagine a bot like that in #debian :) |
| 22:08.33 | etteyafed | .be_slapped |
| 22:08.34 | supybot | etteyafed: Error: "be_slapped" is not a valid command. |
| 22:08.56 | etteyafed | silliness |
| 22:09.02 | troubled | know imagine if blootbot spammed all the not known responses |
| 22:09.05 | etteyafed | the + worked btw thanks |
| 22:09.12 | troubled | np |
| 22:10.15 | troubled | well, in case i split, catch you guys in a bit :) |
| 22:10.55 | etteyafed | it should happen soon |
| 22:11.17 | troubled | within 15min apparently |
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| 22:25.08 | troubled | holy lag batman |
| 22:25.08 | troubled | FactBot: ping |
| 22:25.08 | FactBot | pong! |
| 22:55.21 | simonrvn | ravenbird: ping |
| 22:55.22 | ravenbird | pong |
| 22:55.29 | etteyafed | purl: sit |
| 22:55.30 | purl | ACTION sits |
| 22:55.55 | etteyafed | how do you make her do that? |
| 22:56.14 | etteyafed | mine is too verbose and won't use /me |
| 22:56.22 | troubled | purl: literal sit |
| 22:56.22 | purl | "sit" is "<action> sits" |
| 22:56.39 | troubled | etteyafed: <botname>: sit is <action> sits |
| 22:56.43 | etteyafed | ok mine does the literal by default |
| 22:57.04 | etteyafed | i must do <action> verbatim? ok |
| 22:57.15 | troubled | if you want it to /me, then yes |
| 22:57.44 | troubled | otherwise it will say something like: methinks sit is sits |
| 22:58.14 | troubled | $sit is sits |
| 22:58.14 | FactBot | troubled: okay |
| 22:58.16 | troubled | $sit |
| 22:58.17 | FactBot | [sit] sits |
| 22:58.17 | etteyafed | yeah. thanks |
| 22:58.19 | troubled | $sit |
| 22:58.20 | FactBot | extra, extra, read all about it, sit is sits |
| 22:58.24 | troubled | $forget sit |
| 22:58.25 | FactBot | troubled: i forgot sit |
| 22:58.47 | etteyafed | that was simple enought really |
| 22:59.01 | etteyafed | wonder why i didn't get it first try |
| 22:59.10 | troubled | there is also <reply>, which causes the reply to be exact, without the extra extra, read all about it, etc |
| 23:01.29 | etteyafed | can i make the action happen to the persion that sent the command? there are variables i think |
| 23:01.37 | troubled | yes |
| 23:01.46 | troubled | $nick, $who, $time, etc. |
| 23:01.47 | etteyafed | i will help variables then |