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| 01:41.37 | Anna^ | hiya Sargun |
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| 03:40.35 | jauricchio | #ping |
| 03:40.36 | Anna^ | jauricchio: pong |
| 03:40.50 | jauricchio | #ping |
| 03:40.50 | Anna^ | jauricchio: pong |
| 03:40.58 | jauricchio | #ping |
| 03:40.59 | Anna^ | jauricchio: pong |
| 03:41.13 | jauricchio | #ping |
| 03:41.14 | Anna^ | jauricchio: pong |
| 03:41.28 | jauricchio | #ping |
| 03:41.29 | Anna^ | jauricchio: pong |
| 03:41.39 | jauricchio | #ping |
| 03:41.39 | Anna^ | jauricchio: pong |
| 03:41.43 | jauricchio | dammit |
| 03:42.25 | jauricchio | #ping |
| 03:42.25 | Anna^ | jauricchio: pong |
| 03:42.38 | jauricchio | #echo |
| 03:42.42 | jauricchio | #echo pong |
| 03:42.45 | jauricchio | #say pong |
| 03:42.48 | jauricchio | dang. |
| 03:42.53 | jauricchio | #help |
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| 03:44.52 | ozzloy | pong |
| 03:44.53 | ozzloy | pong |
| 03:44.58 | ozzloy | pong |
| 03:45.00 | ozzloy | pong |
| 03:45.05 | jauricchio | little slower plz |
| 03:45.05 | ozzloy | pong |
| 03:45.06 | jauricchio | :) |
| 03:45.08 | ozzloy | pong |
| 03:45.18 | ozzloy | pong |
| 03:45.32 | ozzloy | pong |
| 03:45.36 | ozzloy | pong |
| 03:45.43 | ozzloy | pong |
| 03:46.15 | ozzloy | pong |
| 03:47.27 | ozzloy | pong |
| 03:48.08 | jauricchio | you're doing great |
| 03:48.50 | ozzloy | so i said to the guy: "i'll take the pong and some cheese" |
| 03:49.03 | ozzloy | i try my pongest |
| 03:49.09 | jauricchio | #ping |
| 03:49.10 | Anna^ | jauricchio: pong |
| 03:49.15 | jauricchio | Heck. |
| 03:49.27 | jauricchio | OH. |
| 03:50.17 | ozzloy | pong |
| 03:50.36 | ozzloy | wtp = what the pong? |
| 03:50.51 | jauricchio | #ping |
| 03:50.51 | Anna^ | jauricchio: pong |
| 03:50.56 | jauricchio | WELL, FUCK. |
| 03:50.58 | jauricchio | :< |
| 03:51.06 | ozzloy | pong |
| 03:51.07 | ozzloy | ? |
| 03:51.12 | ozzloy | what happened? |
| 03:51.42 | jauricchio | can you say "jauricchio" without colon |
| 03:52.42 | ozzloy | jauricchio |
| 03:52.47 | ozzloy | i sure can, jauricchio |
| 03:53.01 | jauricchio | uno mas |
| 03:53.07 | ozzloy | surrounded by other text, jauricchio asdf |
| 03:53.11 | jauricchio | HAH |
| 03:53.14 | jauricchio | stand by |
| 03:53.16 | jauricchio | #ping |
| 03:53.17 | Anna^ | jauricchio: pong |
| 03:53.22 | ozzloy | as part of a wordjauricchioasdf |
| 03:53.22 | jauricchio | aaaaaah |
| 03:53.37 | jauricchio | #ping |
| 03:53.38 | Anna^ | jauricchio: pong |
| 03:53.43 | ozzloy | ? |
| 03:53.43 | jauricchio | WHAT |
| 03:53.46 | ozzloy | wat? |
| 03:53.55 | jauricchio | unlogic. :( |
| 03:53.56 | Anna^ | aww, muffin |
| 03:54.15 | ozzloy | hugs Anna^ |
| 03:54.15 | jauricchio | can you tag me with nick and colon like normal |
| 03:54.15 | Anna^ | hugs ozzloy |
| 03:54.23 | ozzloy | jauricchio: no, that is ... yes |
| 03:54.29 | jauricchio | hmmmmmmmm |
| 03:54.33 | jauricchio | awkward. |
| 03:54.38 | ozzloy | jauricchio: is a btt |
| 03:54.56 | jauricchio | one more |
| 03:55.06 | ozzloy | jauricchio: like this? |
| 03:55.12 | jauricchio | mmmmm |
| 03:55.19 | jauricchio | hang on |
| 03:55.38 | ozzloy | when the math professor, mr. jauricchio, couldn't answer his students question, he drew a _____? |
| 03:56.20 | jauricchio | ok say something without any of the things i previously asked you to say |
| 03:57.33 | ozzloy | PENIS |
| 03:57.43 | jauricchio | god dammit. |
| 03:57.47 | jauricchio | hilight is just not working |
| 03:57.48 | ozzloy | PENIS? |
| 03:58.46 | jauricchio | can you say something again |
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| 04:02.34 | utf8 | jauricchio |
| 04:02.37 | utf8 | pong |
| 04:02.50 | utf8 | pong |
| 04:02.52 | utf8 | blah |
| 04:02.58 | utf8 | blah |
| 04:03.02 | jauricchio | nice. |
| 04:03.05 | utf8 | pong |
| 04:03.07 | utf8 | jauricchio |
| 04:03.38 | utf8 | blah |
| 04:03.40 | utf8 | pong |
| 04:03.45 | utf8 | jauricchio |
| 04:03.56 | jauricchio | yeah i pretty much do not understand /hilight |
| 04:04.51 | utf8 | jauricchio |
| 04:05.01 | utf8 | jauricchio: wut |
| 04:05.54 | utf8 | jauricchio: wut |
| 04:06.00 | utf8 | jauricchio: wut |
| 04:06.13 | utf8 | jauricchio: wut |
| 04:06.17 | ozzloy | oic |
| 04:06.30 | utf8 | jauricchio: wut |
| 04:06.31 | ozzloy | i've been replaced by a very small shell script |
| 04:06.37 | jauricchio | :( |
| 04:06.47 | jauricchio | no actually Colloquy |
| 04:06.49 | ozzloy | ^_^ |
| 04:06.52 | jauricchio | :D |
| 04:06.53 | jauricchio | okay |
| 04:07.01 | ozzloy | hokay |
| 04:07.10 | jauricchio | last test |
| 04:07.19 | utf8 | blah blah hilighted |
| 04:07.38 | utf8 | jauricchio: blah blah hilighted red |
| 04:07.49 | jauricchio | aaaaaaaargh |
| 04:07.58 | jauricchio | WHYYYYYYYYY did it do that |
| 04:08.25 | utf8 | jauricchio: blah blah hilighted red |
| 04:08.31 | utf8 | blah blah |
| 04:08.32 | ozzloy | alskfdj |
| 04:08.35 | ozzloy | jauricchio: |
| 04:08.36 | ozzloy | pong |
| 04:08.44 | ozzloy | jauricchio: pong |
| 04:08.44 | utf8 | ok hold off please |
| 04:11.27 | utf8 | jauricchio: blah blah hilighted red |
| 04:11.35 | utf8 | blah blah |
| 04:29.37 | utf8 | blah blah |
| 04:29.43 | utf8 | jauricchio: blah blah |
| 04:30.01 | utf8 | jauricchio: blah blah |
| 04:30.07 | utf8 | jauricchio: blah blah |
| 04:34.44 | jauricchio | god dammit |
| 04:34.50 | jauricchio | irssi bug :< |
| 04:34.59 | utf8 | blarg |
| 04:35.13 | utf8 | blar |
| 04:35.17 | utf8 | blar |
| 04:35.25 | jauricchio | yes, yes this appears to be buggy. |
| 04:35.47 | utf8 | blarf |
| 04:35.57 | utf8 | blarh |
| 04:36.25 | utf8 | blari |
| 04:36.41 | utf8 | blari |
| 04:36.58 | utf8 | blarj |
| 04:37.27 | utf8 | blarj |
| 04:37.58 | utf8 | blark |
| 04:38.06 | jauricchio | wow this is infuriating. |
| 04:38.19 | utf8 | blarl |
| 04:39.21 | utf8 | mmm |
| 04:39.31 | utf8 | blarj |
| 04:40.04 | utf8 | blarl |
| 04:40.09 | utf8 | blark |
| 04:50.50 | utf8 | blark |
| 04:50.59 | utf8 | blark |
| 04:51.28 | utf8 | blark |
| 04:51.39 | utf8 | blarj |
| 04:51.45 | utf8 | blark |
| 04:51.53 | utf8 | blark |
| 04:51.59 | utf8 | blah |
| 04:52.32 | utf8 | blarj |
| 04:55.45 | utf8 | blah blah jauricchio blah |
| 04:56.26 | utf8 | blah blah jjjj blah |
| 04:57.13 | utf8 | jjjj |
| 04:57.23 | utf8 | sdas |
| 05:01.07 | utf8 | juju |
| 05:03.42 | utf8 | jujv |
| 05:04.29 | utf8 | blah |
| 05:04.43 | utf8 | jujv |
| 05:04.48 | utf8 | juju |
| 05:05.01 | utf8 | jauricchio |
| 05:05.04 | utf8 | something |
| 05:05.18 | utf8 | jauricchio |
| 05:05.24 | utf8 | something |
| 05:05.26 | utf8 | jauricchio |
| 05:13.28 | Shirik | o.o |
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| 05:54.33 | jauricchio | might be in violation of /topic |
| 05:54.34 | jauricchio | :) |
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| 15:24.36 | troubled | simonrvn: holy join flood batman |
| 15:25.06 | simonrvn | yeh, some weird issues with autojoining freenode |
| 15:25.19 | simonrvn | g'morning |
| 15:25.33 | troubled | there was an attack in ubuntu a few minutes ago. perhaps related? |
| 15:25.43 | troubled | g'afternoon |
| 15:25.59 | simonrvn | 11:25, still morning ;) |
| 15:26.09 | troubled | close enough :) |
| 15:26.13 | simonrvn | nah, just me |
| 15:28.58 | simonrvn | was waking the box up, then load avg started climbing fast, and i magic sysreq'd it in the end... but then i forgot lighttpd is acting screwy, so i modded the init script (after a reboot, it was going to sit there all day otherwise).... then irssi wasn't connecting to freenode, or so i thought, so i did /conn freenode,... anyway, ended up making 3-4 connections here. |
| 15:30.54 | troubled | ya, lighttpd been acting up for blender.org too, but for php related reasons. lots of security updates for lighttpd in the past month or two since i started using it though |
| 15:31.30 | simonrvn | yes. sad really... i've never been able to get it to work with php-cgi properly |
| 15:31.46 | troubled | works perfect with perl here using fcgi |
| 15:31.54 | simonrvn | shows great promise, but is lacking in certain areas |
| 15:32.14 | troubled | i just couldnt believe how snappy lighttpd was compared to apache for even simple dir listings |
| 15:32.19 | troubled | and mean it was _fucking_ fast! |
| 15:32.26 | simonrvn | i'd use it instead of apache for my ram-limited box |
| 15:33.00 | simonrvn | Mem: 312944k total, 309944k used, 3000k free, 1020k buffers Swap: 1220576k total, 403084k used, 817492k free, 72216k cached |
| 15:33.01 | troubled | apache is nice feature/maturity/security wise, but speed wise, of course something with less features is gonna do circles |
| 15:33.09 | simonrvn | yes |
| 15:34.01 | simonrvn | i like how they sought out permission to use the name, too. that was nice. |
| 15:34.15 | troubled | ? |
| 15:34.26 | simonrvn | apache |
| 15:34.33 | troubled | ah, didnt realise that |
| 15:34.45 | simonrvn | (little piece of trivia ;) |
| 15:34.50 | troubled | they ask yo'mama? |
| 15:34.52 | troubled | runs |
| 15:34.55 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 15:35.01 | troubled | :) |
| 15:35.29 | simonrvn | i wonder if they did the same for cherokee |
| 15:35.31 | troubled | hmm, Jude Law slept with his nanny |
| 15:35.53 | simonrvn | who, what? why are telling us this? |
| 15:36.01 | troubled | *shrug* on cnn |
| 15:36.15 | troubled | aparently its special on "nannygate" |
| 15:36.20 | simonrvn | that's not news that's gossip ;) |
| 15:36.34 | troubled | nah, they say he admited to it |
| 15:36.44 | troubled | I say tap that ass, but thats just me :) |
| 15:37.34 | simonrvn | heh, you kinda surprise me, i didn't figure you for the "hollywood gossip" type ;p |
| 15:37.57 | troubled | zomg! troubled marriage next on cnn! |
| 15:38.28 | troubled | cnn is fewer click on the remote from HGTV and Discovery canada channel for me :) |
| 15:39.27 | simonrvn | i admit to watching tmz, but because i find it interesting the sociological aspects, as in: they show "celebrities" to be very much human, instead of "e-talk" and such that try to pass off this "perfect people" garbage |
| 15:39.32 | simonrvn | nods |
| 15:39.53 | troubled | most of the time like now I dont actually hear cnn though. headphones :) |
| 15:40.04 | troubled | i just like looking at celeb pretty boobies :) |
| 15:40.09 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 15:40.15 | troubled | specially Robin Meads :) |
| 15:40.17 | troubled | *drool* |
| 15:40.35 | simonrvn | who? |
| 15:40.44 | troubled | shes one of the CNN anchor chicks |
| 15:40.49 | simonrvn | (being serious, never heard of this person) |
| 15:40.52 | simonrvn | ah |
| 15:41.02 | troubled | http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/morning.express/ here |
| 15:41.02 | Anna^ | [www.cnn.com] Show pages - Morning Express with Robin Meade - CNN.com |
| 15:41.04 | troubled | her* |
| 15:44.17 | troubled | boobies |
| 15:44.40 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 15:45.26 | simonrvn | you'd get whiplash in montreal for all the head turning you'd do... ;) |
| 15:45.35 | troubled | boobies? |
| 15:45.46 | simonrvn | just plain beauty everywhere |
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| 15:46.00 | troubled | :) |
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| 15:47.27 | simonrvn | this town is rather noted for that, actually, and not necessarily all fancied up too |
| 15:51.17 | troubled | http://picpaste.com/out.jpg |
| 15:51.36 | troubled | 2h 45m render so far |
| 15:51.57 | simonrvn | ? |
| 15:52.04 | troubled | the longer the render, the less grainy it gets |
| 15:52.04 | simonrvn | oh |
| 15:52.20 | simonrvn | you made that? |
| 15:52.24 | troubled | its using an unbiased renderer called luxrender |
| 15:52.46 | troubled | i made the mesh following a tutorial, but the materials and lighting were mine |
| 15:52.53 | simonrvn | nice |
| 15:53.42 | troubled | http://picpaste.com/608-BearingSectioned2.png |
| 15:54.02 | troubled | thats the original normal render using blenders internal engine with ray tracing |
| 15:54.45 | troubled | i think that looks better, but its very fake looking compared to the luxrendered one. but I need to light up the lux one a bit |
| 15:54.45 | simonrvn | heh, nice too |
| 15:55.06 | troubled | http://www.luxrender.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=61&Itemid=76 |
| 15:55.09 | Anna^ | [www.luxrender.net] Gallery |
| 15:55.11 | simonrvn | yeh, the lux one looks a lot more realistic |
| 15:55.12 | troubled | ^^^ thats what luxrender does |
| 15:55.44 | troubled | basically the pic starts out very pixelated and grainy, but the more time you spend rendering, the better it looks. until you reach a point like the pics in those galleries |
| 15:56.17 | troubled | you can still a bit of the grainyness in the pic I put up if you look close |
| 15:56.27 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 15:56.40 | simonrvn | holy crap, i couldn't tell the diff... |
| 15:56.55 | troubled | the gallery? ya that stuff is sick |
| 15:57.08 | simonrvn | if it was moving, i think i could tell... |
| 15:57.50 | troubled | i dont know, they can do some pretty good animations these days |
| 15:58.05 | troubled | the cloth softbody physics are getting better and better |
| 15:58.17 | simonrvn | mmm, ok, one of those does look fake, the one with the monitors and keyboards |
| 15:58.19 | troubled | http://www.blendernation.com/2008/04/02/short-cloth-demo/ |
| 15:58.47 | simonrvn | and the beige building... look at the shadows of the latter |
| 15:58.48 | troubled | ya, loks like its missing a little dirt and dust |
| 15:59.20 | troubled | the house looks like a model or somethign |
| 16:00.26 | troubled | http://picpaste.com/lavalamp_1.jpg |
| 16:00.31 | simonrvn | wow |
| 16:00.43 | troubled | theres a lamp from a speed model challange I did the other day |
| 16:01.24 | simonrvn | nice, though needs more randomness for the bubbles, and softening the light a bit |
| 16:01.25 | troubled | mesh took about 20-25min, and another 15-20 for the lighting and textures etc. |
| 16:01.47 | troubled | ya, the top bubbles look a little too squrish and I dont like the marble as much as I though |
| 16:01.50 | troubled | thought |
| 16:02.45 | troubled | i messed up the glass though. it should have an angled part just above the marble base |
| 16:02.57 | simonrvn | ah yeh |
| 16:03.17 | troubled | I tried adding it later but the specularity from the light on the glass was terrible because of the felcection map the glass texture I used has set on it for the stripes you see |
| 16:03.43 | troubled | you should have seen the pic the one guy paste was like. sec ill try dig it up |
| 16:04.07 | simonrvn | aah ok |
| 16:05.49 | troubled | http://speedmodeling.org/smcfiles/%7Cph8%7C_lavalamp2.jpg |
| 16:06.00 | troubled | theres the one he made. i like the purple he used |
| 16:06.14 | troubled | although he even said his blobs look like turds :) |
| 16:06.26 | troubled | http://speedmodeling.org/smcfiles/%7Cph8%7C_lavalamp.jpg is the original he had |
| 16:06.30 | simonrvn | better, but still looks fake ;) |
| 16:07.10 | troubled | he should have used meta balls (what mine used) for the blobs really. they are perfect for use in lava lamps |
| 16:07.31 | troubled | they naturally stretch out and morph into each other by design |
| 16:07.44 | simonrvn | i tried getting into blender, but the ui totally confused me |
| 16:08.41 | troubled | its not that bad once you get used to it |
| 16:08.43 | simonrvn | wow, your parliament just voted in favour of the UNDRIP (UN declaration on the rights of indigenous peoples) |
| 16:08.58 | simonrvn | well, "just", more recently |
| 16:09.00 | troubled | i hear they are planning a complete overhaul of the UI for the 2.5 versions or something though |
| 16:09.08 | simonrvn | nods |
| 16:09.16 | troubled | undrip? underwear ripping? |
| 16:09.45 | simonrvn | see above ;) |
| 16:10.25 | troubled | never heard of that |
| 16:10.50 | simonrvn | because it never really hit MSM news |
| 16:10.59 | simonrvn | sec |
| 16:13.40 | simonrvn | http://wiki.kisikew.org/bin/view/Main/DeclarationRightsIndigenousPeoples |
| 16:15.31 | troubled | looks like a bunch of greek lawyer text to me :( |
| 16:15.49 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 16:17.10 | troubled | did you change the look of kisikew lately? |
| 16:18.05 | troubled | wordpress i see. seems popular these days |
| 16:18.21 | troubled | http://wiki.kisikew.org/ <-- error |
| 16:18.30 | simonrvn | that's the old wiki, the new one is here: http://wiki.kisikew.org/wiki/ ; it's gonna look something like http://simonraven.kisikew.org/wiki/ but with a different colour scheme (and i've still to do more mods to the latter one) |
| 16:18.53 | simonrvn | i know, i dunno what that's from |
| 16:20.01 | troubled | hmm taking its time loading :/ |
| 16:20.16 | simonrvn | yeh i got 3 effing clients trying to load stuff |
| 16:20.31 | troubled | heh. you need faster machine |
| 16:20.35 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 16:20.49 | Anna^ | [wiki.kisikew.org] Main Page - KisikewNews |
| 16:21.09 | troubled | i would ship you this spare dell if it were for the fact it would cost more to ship than to by a new pc :) |
| 16:21.26 | troubled | ^^^ lol, make that 4 clients (Anna^) |
| 16:21.47 | Anna^ | [simonraven.kisikew.org] Main Page - Kjikaqawej |
| 16:21.47 | simonrvn | i have SA going too |
| 16:22.00 | troubled | sa? |
| 16:22.05 | simonrvn | spamassassin |
| 16:23.03 | simonrvn | and clamd... which i've tried getting to use less memory, but it's futile... i'm going to disable that (no windows (tm) boxen here) |
| 16:23.19 | troubled | bah, clamav is a piece of junk |
| 16:23.34 | troubled | scanning a 3mb file takes like 30minutes |
| 16:23.45 | simonrvn | it's effing slow |
| 16:24.06 | simonrvn | works ok, but they seriously need to optimise the code |
| 16:24.10 | troubled | i straced it. looks like it just sequentially tries every known signature at a rate of about 5 or 6 per second |
| 16:24.28 | simonrvn | and there's 110K+ sigs |
| 16:24.32 | troubled | i know heh |
| 16:24.50 | troubled | so even scaning a text file with the single word "the" in it would proibably take half an hour |
| 16:24.52 | simonrvn | *shakes head* crazy... |
| 16:25.01 | troubled | probably patent issue related though |
| 16:25.22 | troubled | and god knows a bunch of OSS programmers wouldnt be able to afford to defend against any kind of lawsuit |
| 16:25.31 | simonrvn | yeh :( |
| 16:29.09 | simonrvn | ok, imma hack out clamd from exim, brb |
| 16:29.49 | troubled | l8r |
| 16:29.57 | troubled | curious before you do |
| 16:30.06 | troubled | how many virii has it actually detected for you? |
| 16:30.25 | simonrvn | lately? zero, since i haven't seen any |
| 16:30.44 | troubled | just curious if it was actually doing anything more than suck clock cycles |
| 16:30.44 | simonrvn | but when it there are some going around, it catches them |
| 16:31.13 | simonrvn | like i said, it's good at what it does, but it's slow |
| 16:31.48 | troubled | well, far as im conrcnerd, the users should be responsible for their own protection |
| 16:32.22 | troubled | and unless you have a windows machine around, I doubt any virii are targetted specifically at linux you have running, or are in anyway capable of exploiting your specific client |
| 16:32.52 | troubled | if anything, you are probably opening yourself up to attack simply by scanning everything which has a chance of buffer overflow to take over your whole system |
| 16:34.01 | simonrvn | on an old box, that chance is greater... |
| 16:34.52 | troubled | im curious how bad the clamd slowed down your exim mail delivery |
| 16:35.05 | simonrvn | actually not much |
| 16:35.16 | troubled | really, if I mass sent you 200 or 300 emails real fast that were to be accepted, you wouldnt get them past the clamd til christmas lol |
| 16:35.27 | simonrvn | 'cause when clamd saw there there was no virus, it passed it along |
| 16:35.48 | troubled | but if it takes 30min to scan a single email, you got problems |
| 16:35.54 | simonrvn | no |
| 16:36.00 | troubled | unless it checks attachments only or something |
| 16:36.24 | simonrvn | just attachments |
| 16:36.29 | troubled | in which case just send 300 emails with a 1byte text attachment outta knock your MTA offline for a few months |
| 16:36.58 | simonrvn | hehe, you exaggerate (sp?) ;) |
| 16:36.58 | batbot | simonrvn, exaggerate is correct. |
| 16:37.04 | troubled | your grandchildren will get your emails that were tied up in clamd :) |
| 16:37.59 | simonrvn | well that freed up some vm =) |
| 16:38.26 | troubled | buy some ram already lol |
| 16:38.43 | troubled | should cost less then the price of a bag of mail by now for that old beast |
| 16:38.44 | simonrvn | sure, find some pc100 sticks ;) |
| 16:38.56 | troubled | put in pc133 or whatever you can find |
| 16:39.28 | troubled | probably get a gig for like $20 |
| 16:39.39 | simonrvn | max on this thing is 768 |
| 16:39.45 | troubled | then max it |
| 16:40.10 | troubled | your what now, like 392mb or somethin? |
| 16:40.18 | simonrvn | 324 |
| 16:40.31 | troubled | you got plenty of upgrade room left |
| 16:40.37 | simonrvn | or something.. 332 |
| 16:40.47 | simonrvn | er no |
| 16:40.56 | simonrvn | 324 |
| 16:41.07 | simonrvn | clock : 332.000000MHz |
| 16:41.20 | simonrvn | L2 cache : 512K unified pipelined-syncro-burst |
| 16:41.32 | simonrvn | motherboard : AAPL,Gossamer MacRISC |
| 16:41.33 | simonrvn | detected as : 48 (PowerMac G3 (Gossamer)) |
| 16:41.57 | troubled | 333 huh? not a smp isnt? |
| 16:42.28 | simonrvn | no :(. i wish |
| 16:42.45 | simonrvn | ZIF card CPU slot |
| 16:42.54 | troubled | ah |
| 16:43.15 | troubled | this shiny dell here would be perfect for ya then. just mind the hydro it sucks up hehe |
| 16:44.06 | simonrvn | i'm almost tempted.... and split the diff on shipping |
| 16:45.11 | troubled | or you could just drive down and pick it up |
| 16:45.22 | troubled | although gas is just as expensive these days |
| 16:46.10 | troubled | i still use the dual 333, but the dual 300 just sits here. blow too many breakers with everything going here |
| 16:50.52 | simonrvn | well, i'd have to discuss with wifey-poo, and wait until i got a decent honourarium, but i'd be willing to go halfies on shipping |
| 16:53.03 | simonrvn | i gtg soon, but we could talk about it later tonight, after i get back from drum practice and healing circle |
| 16:53.30 | troubled | k, l8r |
| 16:53.42 | simonrvn | s,$,$\?, |
| 16:54.20 | troubled | i wouldnt ask money for it, but I also am not interested in spending any to get rid of it either |
| 16:54.38 | simonrvn | ok |
| 16:54.55 | troubled | you get it as is, with full 512mb, 5x9gig + 1x18gig scsi sca drives and both 700watt psu's |
| 16:55.11 | troubled | and your favorite, another megaraid card :) |
| 16:55.20 | simonrvn | holy smokes! 700 w? |
| 16:55.27 | troubled | ya, dual 700w |
| 16:55.31 | troubled | hot swap though |
| 16:55.39 | troubled | look it up, dell poweredge 4200 |
| 16:55.52 | troubled | and a 4mm dat drive |
| 16:56.15 | troubled | 4gig tapes it takes and works fine with linux of course |
| 16:56.45 | troubled | only problem is the cdrom doesnt like many burned cd's, so I use floppy boot to network boot FAI on a server to install |
| 16:57.26 | simonrvn | Host Bus Adapter: Adaptec AHA-2940UW |
| 16:57.27 | troubled | if you put in a netboot capable nic though for $20 im sure it would be easier than floppy |
| 16:57.32 | simonrvn | well supported in linux |
| 16:57.45 | troubled | ya, but i dont use the onboard scsi, i use megaraid |
| 16:58.10 | troubled | well,it has 2 onboard 68pins, one meant for the backplane and one for the dat drive and cdrom |
| 16:58.31 | troubled | generally the drives backplane is hooked to the megaraid though |
| 16:58.48 | simonrvn | ok |
| 16:58.53 | troubled | it has battery backup and all that stuff for power outages which is nice compred to without |
| 16:59.12 | troubled | not to mention you offload the raid load to the card and get better use out of the dual cpu's |
| 16:59.29 | simonrvn | wow, what a nice box. was it rather forward-thinking for its generation? |
| 17:00.16 | simonrvn | dual p2, much more efficient than up p3 |
| 17:00.55 | troubled | not sure, didnt have them during their prime, but i would think so |
| 17:01.11 | troubled | still nice boxes today for redundancy |
| 17:01.18 | simonrvn | indeed |
| 17:01.22 | troubled | no fans on the cpu's either, all heat sink only |
| 17:01.27 | simonrvn | sweet |
| 17:01.33 | simonrvn | less noise ;) |
| 17:01.38 | troubled | and 3 80mm fans in the front chasis. 2 only on at once, and 3rd kicks in if one dies |
| 17:01.47 | simonrvn | the beige g3 is sitting next to my monitor ;) |
| 17:02.10 | troubled | you can set that via dell osma though iirc. but getting that running properly is a challange in debian to say the least (java based and geared for red hat) |
| 17:02.25 | simonrvn | it was quiet when i got it, but i haven't had much opportunity to take it down lately :( |
| 17:02.35 | troubled | i dont know about less noise though. remember, 2 700w psu's and 6 hd's are loud |
| 17:02.36 | simonrvn | ugh |
| 17:02.41 | simonrvn | true |
| 17:03.03 | troubled | the 2 psu's act as fans for the hd's actually. they pull air across the hd's |
| 17:03.07 | simonrvn | (ugh was for rh and java) |
| 17:03.12 | troubled | ah |
| 17:03.14 | simonrvn | ok |
| 17:03.47 | simonrvn | i can figure something out... i want to move the beige somewhere else away from us, block some of the noise |
| 17:04.11 | troubled | you definetly would want something like this in a room to itself noise wise heh |
| 17:04.34 | troubled | i dont mind it myself. drowns out anonying background noises with a steady humm |
| 17:06.00 | simonrvn | it's not noisy per se, and we've gotten used to it, but i'm getting tired of the noise, after about 5 years of it hehe |
| 17:06.22 | troubled | http://pastebin.ca/979867 is for the 333, but the specs are the same for the 300 cept lower speed |
| 17:06.23 | Anna^ | [pastebin.ca] general pastebin - Mine - post number 979867 |
| 17:06.32 | simonrvn | (i also want to be able to hear when i'm 85 yo ;) |
| 17:07.05 | troubled | dont worry, when the megaraid alarm goes off, the whole house will hear it if someone pulls a drive or one fails |
| 17:07.16 | troubled | its fsckin loud for a little speaker |
| 17:07.32 | simonrvn | that's cool |
| 17:07.32 | troubled | you have to yell somewhat to talk to ppl beside you heh |
| 17:07.41 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 17:07.45 | simonrvn | yikes =) |
| 17:07.55 | troubled | plus its got chasis intrusion and all that fun stuff if you can get osma working and use snmp |
| 17:08.01 | simonrvn | wake the effing neighbours up at 4:00 hehe |
| 17:08.16 | troubled | hehe |
| 17:08.26 | troubled | better than someone pulling a hd and walking away unnoticed |
| 17:09.02 | simonrvn | yeh, though it's in our apartment ;) |
| 17:09.08 | simonrvn | hehehe |
| 17:09.23 | troubled | well, least it would be easy to tell a hd went |
| 17:09.33 | troubled | has fancy led panel to see it though if you have no sound |
| 17:09.35 | simonrvn | *if* they manage to get in, they'd be walking off with the rest of them =) |
| 17:09.53 | troubled | but the megaraid is nice since you can setup spare drives to auto rebuild in event of a failure |
| 17:10.07 | troubled | thats what the dat tape drive is for. backupds :) |
| 17:10.17 | troubled | not to mention you should have crypted drives to begin with |
| 17:10.32 | simonrvn | oh shoulda been clear "them", i meant "computers" |
| 17:10.53 | simonrvn | they have to get past one or both of us however ;) |
| 17:10.53 | troubled | good news is the machine is too heavy for a single person to steal itself. so worst case you are out 6 hd's that are worth $10 a piece on ebay |
| 17:12.02 | troubled | 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 440FX - 82441FX PMC [Natoma] (rev 02) |
| 17:12.05 | troubled | 00:0d.0 PCI bridge: Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21152 (rev 02) |
| 17:12.07 | troubled | 00:0f.0 EISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82375EB/SB PCI to EISA Bridge (rev 15) |
| 17:12.10 | troubled | 00:10.0 Ethernet controller: D-Link System Inc RTL8139 Ethernet (rev 10) |
| 17:12.12 | troubled | 00:11.0 USB Controller: Silicon Image, Inc. USB0673 (rev 05) |
| 17:12.14 | troubled | 00:14.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 264VT [Mach64 VT] (rev 40) |
| 17:12.15 | simonrvn | yeh no kidding... and i don't have sensitive data there |
| 17:12.17 | troubled | 01:0b.0 SCSI storage controller: Adaptec AIC-7860 (rev 01) |
| 17:12.19 | troubled | 01:0d.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 80960RP [i960 RP Microprocessor/Bridge] (rev 05) |
| 17:12.22 | troubled | 01:0d.1 SCSI storage controller: Intel Corporation 80960RP [i960RP Microprocessor] (rev 05) |
| 17:12.26 | troubled | theres a lspci of the 333 since its running atm |
| 17:12.48 | simonrvn | nods |
| 17:12.52 | simonrvn | thanks |
| 17:13.09 | troubled | as for debian support, its 100% so no problems there |
| 17:14.09 | troubled | even for a slow cpu, the fact its smp and the raid really makes for even a decently fast winXP install which should say something for an X install |
| 17:14.27 | simonrvn | x wouldn't go on it ;) |
| 17:15.04 | simonrvn | sometimes i run x-based apps through ssh, but that's it |
| 17:15.08 | troubled | well, 512mb and all the raid and tape backup is perfect. the dat tapes are only like $5 a pop if you can find em too |
| 17:15.16 | troubled | great for web server/dns etc |
| 17:16.06 | simonrvn | i find the web server is the biggest hog (other than clamd, which i stopped) |
| 17:16.19 | simonrvn | ok, another coffee, then i go |
| 17:16.55 | troubled | hehe |
| 17:22.49 | simonrvn | back |
| 17:23.29 | simonrvn | well, with clamd stopped, this is the vm situation: |
| 17:23.40 | simonrvn | Mem: 312944k total, 304996k used, 7948k free, 2380k buffers |
| 17:23.44 | simonrvn | Swap: 1220576k total, 322596k used, 897980k free, 98304k cached |
| 17:23.57 | simonrvn | big difference |
| 17:23.58 | troubled | wheres all the swap going? |
| 17:24.14 | simonrvn | 297m 6360 291m 0.0 2.0 1:21.68 openldap S 1 22437 /usr/sbin/slapd |
| 17:24.22 | troubled | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:24.24 | troubled | Mem: 516880 500756 16124 0 259448 52056 |
| 17:24.27 | troubled | -/+ buffers/cache: 189252 327628 |
| 17:24.29 | troubled | Swap: 530104 220 529884 |
| 17:24.41 | troubled | there is the dell333, and thats running blender boinc renders 24/7 |
| 17:25.12 | troubled | why the heck is slapd taking so much? |
| 17:25.15 | simonrvn | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:25.15 | simonrvn | Mem: 305 302 2 0 2 101 |
| 17:25.15 | simonrvn | -/+ buffers/cache: 198 106 |
| 17:25.16 | simonrvn | Swap: 1191 311 880 |
| 17:25.20 | troubled | your db isnt that big is it? |
| 17:25.33 | simonrvn | this current version is rather leaky :/ |
| 17:25.41 | troubled | i guess so heh |
| 17:25.52 | simonrvn | a lot of the db ends up in vm |
| 17:26.00 | troubled | 300mb though? |
| 17:26.31 | simonrvn | when it's started up, it's 126m VIRT |
| 17:26.39 | troubled | damn, what a pig |
| 17:26.48 | simonrvn | bit better on x86 |
| 17:27.10 | troubled | ldap is one thing i dont run here though so I cant really compare |
| 17:27.14 | simonrvn | gets no more bigegr than about 100 mb virt |
| 17:27.17 | troubled | just seems like an aweful lot |
| 17:27.47 | simonrvn | ...and that's when it's been running for about a month |
| 17:27.59 | simonrvn | er, more like 2 w |
| 17:28.28 | simonrvn | yikes, 13:30... |
| 17:28.55 | simonrvn | see you later buddy |
| 17:29.44 | troubled | l8r |
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