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| 01:42.23 | EricWilhelm | brlcad, are you working on the sketch editor, or is that just a quickfix? |
| 01:46.58 | EricWilhelm | re: autocad compatibility - I would be interested in getting dwg import/export working (have done some work on this before) |
| 01:48.07 | EricWilhelm | I've already got an OpenDWG binding, so I might be persuaded to work on that just to get something that runs, but I would prefer to do it via a GPL library (there is something started from the pythoncad project) but this would be a step backwards in functionality right now824 |
| 01:48.37 | EricWilhelm | also, I've done a little research on ACIS (probably of more interest for brlcad usage) |
| 03:26.29 | brlcad | EricWilhelm: that's just a small fix |
| 03:27.46 | brlcad | it's been a long time since I've read the full dwg spec, but I'd have to imagine that there are some components of the drawing format missing from brl |
| 03:27.59 | brlcad | cad's sketch primitive |
| 03:29.33 | brlcad | that said, it should do most of the actual geometry via the points, lines, curves, splines support that sketch already stores |
| 03:34.43 | brlcad | quickly glancing over the spec (just now), it looks like pretty much all of it will import/export easily enough directly -- the hardest part might be the layer and styles blocks .. i.e. what does a dashed line mean to a solid modeler? .. could perhaps just make it an attribute, though |
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| 04:09.34 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/sh/footer.sh: initialize vars and avoid grep error output on unknown files (with an unknown commentchar) |
| 04:11.35 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/autogen.sh: only copyright 2005 by gov |
| 04:13.07 | EricWilhelm | brlcad, sketches are one issue, ACIS solids are another |
| 04:13.38 | EricWilhelm | (the sketch lives within the .g file right?) |
| 04:14.38 | EricWilhelm | I could certainly see pulling a 2D dxf/dwg into the sketcher, but a lot of people (I used to be one of them) use AutoCAD for solid modeling, which means embedded (and needlessly encrypted) ACIS data. |
| 04:16.35 | EricWilhelm | the uber-converter is all about resolving the differences between different types of programs, so what to do with dashed lines and blocks is not just an issue for BRLCAD, it's an issue for anything running on a more complicated format than rhizopod |
| 04:16.48 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/sh/ (8 files): headers and footers |
| 04:16.58 | brlcad | you could stash the entire file into the .g as a binary object |
| 04:17.37 | EricWilhelm | no, I mean the sketcher saves the sketch within the .g? |
| 04:18.26 | brlcad | presently yes, the sketcher saves a "sketch" primitive into the .g just like any other primitive |
| 04:20.29 | EricWilhelm | dxf-g doesn't add sketches to an existing .g file? (just smashes the output argument?) |
| 04:22.50 | EricWilhelm | seems like a better usage model might be to import selectively from the sketcher. |
| 04:23.15 | EricWilhelm | but, you still aren't getting any 3D data that way |
| 04:23.42 | EricWilhelm | dwg/dxf supports wireframe, solid, and surface data |
| 04:24.32 | brlcad | it imports POLYLINE, VERTEX, LINE, CIRCLE, ARC, and 3DFACE |
| 04:26.16 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/conv/dxf-g.1: typo |
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| 06:28.43 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/sh/make_pkg.sh: initial untested implementation that should generate an installer pkg that is compatible with both the old and new Installer |
| 06:30.58 | brlcad | oooh, almost worked first try |
| 06:32.07 | brlcad | only missing one " char |
| 06:36.16 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/sh/make_pkg.sh: cool, only missing a single quote char |
| 06:36.51 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/Makefile.am: update the pkg target with the args that make_pkg.sh now requires |
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| 21:39.43 | polyspin | Good afternoon |
| 21:43.26 | jano | good morning |
| 21:43.28 | jano | :D |
| 21:53.38 | polyspin | What time zone are you "living" in ;-) |
| 22:24.52 | jano | I'm pretending to be in hawaii right now |
| 22:25.15 | jano | let's se.. it's almost noon there |
| 22:25.25 | jano | I'd probably be waking up now |
| 22:25.49 | jano | then have a small tropical juice |
| 22:25.53 | jano | grab the surfboard |
| 22:26.14 | jano | but instead, i'm only in california where it's about 80 degrees outside |
| 22:26.17 | jano | clear skies |
| 22:26.22 | jano | :P~~~~~~ |
| 22:26.38 | jano | worst part is it's already afternoon |
| 22:26.44 | jano | i hate that white stuff |
| 22:26.46 | jano | it's cold |
| 22:27.02 | polyspin | it's what you can do *with* it that is fun |
| 22:27.05 | jano | it's fun to look at.. |
| 22:27.14 | jano | but make it part of an entire season |
| 22:27.17 | jano | hmm |
| 22:27.19 | jano | shoveling |
| 22:27.20 | jano | scraping |
| 22:27.25 | jano | freezing |
| 22:27.39 | jano | i prefer brushing warm sand off my feet, thank you :) |
| 22:27.41 | polyspin | days off |
| 22:27.56 | jano | ask learner/brlcad i have my surf days off :D |
| 22:27.58 | polyspin | snowmen & snow angels with my 3-yr old |
| 22:28.09 | polyspin | Because the surf is up? |
| 22:28.24 | polyspin | Gosh, I didn't think busineses did that |
| 22:28.31 | jano | mine does :D |
| 22:28.36 | polyspin | I can imagine that you *take* those days off |
| 22:28.43 | jano | oh, I do |
| 22:28.48 | jano | adn the business supports it |
| 22:28.55 | jano | they're like, sure, go ahead! |
| 22:29.02 | jano | in fact, they were wondering why I wasn't out today |
| 22:29.20 | jano | i can't begin to describe what a marvelously beautiful day it is today |
| 22:29.45 | jano | santa ana winds came in last night and cleared everything.. i could see the hollywood sign on my way to work |
| 22:29.54 | jano | every face was visible on catalina island |
| 22:29.59 | jano | :D |
| 22:30.37 | jano | all right, i should get back to work |
| 22:30.39 | jano | :P |
| 23:28.41 | brlcad | howdy folks |
| 23:28.51 | polyspin | Evenin |
| 23:29.01 | polyspin | Got another one up and running this afternoon |
| 23:29.21 | brlcad | another what? :) |
| 23:29.40 | polyspin | Another site. |
| 23:29.45 | brlcad | ahh |
| 23:29.57 | polyspin | Folks trying to build without the --prefix have had ... problems |
| 23:30.08 | brlcad | I know, I fixed that yesterday |
| 23:30.19 | brlcad | prefix is "NONE" if you don't define it |
| 23:30.34 | polyspin | JRA said something about libraries not getting ".so" the other day. |
| 23:30.43 | brlcad | so the root was getting set to that along with a variety of TCL vars |
| 23:30.49 | brlcad | yeah, he told me |
| 23:31.00 | polyspin | OK, so you've heard. I haven't had time to look. |
| 23:31.45 | brlcad | the --prefix one took most of the weekend to figure out, but it should be all better now |
| 23:31.58 | polyspin | how did you fix? |
| 23:32.02 | brlcad | now configure will complain if brlcad_root is set too, and abort if it doesn't match prefix |
| 23:32.21 | brlcad | and recommend to not use it period |
| 23:33.53 | brlcad | almost have the make_pkg.sh working |
| 23:34.17 | polyspin | yow! |
| 23:34.20 | brlcad | it builds it all up quite nicely now, but there's a few fixes it needs, and I need to feed it resources for things like the readme |
| 23:35.08 | brlcad | there's a make_*.sh for various build systems that hook into the top level make file too |
| 23:35.32 | brlcad | so you can "make dmg" or "make tgz" etc to make the binary distribution |
| 23:35.52 | polyspin | I like!! |
| 23:36.01 | brlcad | dmg, pkg, deb, tgz, tbz, zip, and rpm for now |
| 23:36.33 | brlcad | pkg and rpm are the only working ones for now, but the structure is in place |
| 23:36.44 | polyspin | as my son would say... awesome! |
| 23:36.47 | brlcad | heh |
| 23:37.49 | polyspin | I've just patched the old pkgen engine enough to work. Just got my first clean run. |
| 23:38.02 | polyspin | I'm counting the hours I have to work on this thing now. |
| 23:38.08 | brlcad | as your son would say... awesome :) |
| 23:39.59 | polyspin | it sure is pretty under cooca though. |
| 23:41.40 | brlcad | gah.. no wonder wireless is all screwy now.. |
| 23:41.57 | brlcad | there's like 3 nodes I'm competing with .. |
| 23:42.13 | brlcad | looks like some folks got wireless for christmas |
| 23:42.26 | polyspin | heh, just use one of the others 8-) |
| 23:43.00 | jano | hahah |
| 23:43.11 | jano | we often get virus emails here at work |
| 23:43.22 | jano | i look through the headers and logs and figure out where they come from |
| 23:43.33 | jano | then.. just try to telnet in to the ip |
| 23:43.53 | jano | from there, sometimes I accidentaly turn off the dsl modems :o |
| 23:44.46 | jano | although I'm no longer affiliated with computers, I maintain an unofficial knowhow :D |
| 23:44.53 | jano | sssshhhhh |