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| 02:34.15 | polyspin | evening |
| 02:34.21 | polyspin | Anybody listening? |
| 02:53.06 | Twingy | hi |
| 02:54.03 | Twingy | whatsup? |
| 03:04.18 | Twingy | cool, richard smalley is on slashdot, erik and I saw him at 330 last year |
| 03:39.00 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/mged/Makefile.am: drop the _LIBS to be consistent |
| 03:40.14 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/bwish/Makefile.am: drop the _LIBS on incrTcl libs to be consistent |
| 03:41.41 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/ (fb/Makefile.am libdm/Makefile.am util/Makefile.am): s/LIBPNG/PNG/g to be consistent |
| 03:45.05 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/configure.ac: |
| 03:45.05 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: add Tcl, incrTcl, and IWidgets to the configure-time checks for an already |
| 03:45.05 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: installed useable system library version. iwidgets could use a better |
| 03:45.05 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: functionality test, but it's a start. throw in some extra lib cleanup while |
| 03:45.05 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: we're at it. |
| 03:46.11 | polyspin | Have a CMP I'd like comment on. It's not as complete as I would like, but... |
| 03:51.17 | polyspin | It's on bzflag.bz in my home directory |
| 03:54.11 | brlcad | mornin' |
| 03:55.45 | polyspin | Mornin. |
| 03:56.03 | polyspin | Just re-uploaded the CMP to bzflag |
| 04:00.51 | polyspin | Twingy: Launch anything this weekend? |
| 04:02.05 | polyspin | brlcad: Can we use .htaccess on our project website? Specifically, can we set up "registered users"? |
| 04:02.33 | brlcad | sure |
| 04:03.00 | brlcad | polyspin: quickly skimmed through, looking much better |
| 04:03.18 | polyspin | great. That allows us to log minutes of TRB meetings there. |
| 04:03.24 | polyspin | I like it. |
| 04:03.57 | brlcad | inclusion of the stakeholders and some roles helped a lot |
| 04:04.27 | polyspin | and I think it puts the responsibility with the REAL stakeholders. |
| 04:04.58 | polyspin | i've since split that section into one on TRB and one on CCB |
| 04:05.15 | polyspin | Nothing major, just a header insertion and change. |
| 04:08.04 | brlcad | fyi, added automatic configure-time checks for tcl, incrtcl, and iwidgets now (did the utah raster toolkit last week) |
| 04:08.31 | polyspin | Great. My only concern is that ours has the gnu readline in it. |
| 04:08.48 | brlcad | our what? |
| 04:09.04 | polyspin | Er. Our Tcl interpeter |
| 04:09.19 | polyspin | Have you built with a stock Tcl/Tk? |
| 04:09.26 | brlcad | it should be a stock tcl now |
| 04:09.28 | polyspin | Or are we just talking about checks |
| 04:09.52 | polyspin | Hmm. Did you run mged? Did command line editing work? |
| 04:10.17 | brlcad | it checks (unless you explicitly set them to on/off) to see if there's a useable system installed version |
| 04:10.35 | brlcad | our tcl is a stock 8.4 |
| 04:10.41 | Twingy | hi |
| 04:10.46 | brlcad | our tk isn't |
| 04:10.53 | Twingy | polyspin, question about the ttm stuff |
| 04:11.02 | brlcad | there are no configure-time checks for tk (bezier canvas) |
| 04:11.03 | Twingy | Resource Requirements (SY): 1.33 |
| 04:11.03 | Twingy | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:11.04 | Twingy | .67.67 |
| 04:11.09 | Twingy | what does BB, BD, BE mean? |
| 04:11.21 | polyspin | Branch names. |
| 04:11.25 | Twingy | ah |
| 04:11.25 | Twingy | k |
| 04:11.25 | polyspin | We're BE |
| 04:11.29 | Twingy | thx |
| 04:11.34 | brlcad | heh |
| 04:11.54 | Twingy | do you require my presence tommorrow? :) |
| 04:12.22 | brlcad | Zeta Branch |
| 04:12.37 | Twingy | :) |
| 04:13.22 | polyspin | E-mail your TTM thing before 8am and the answer is no. |
| 04:13.22 | Twingy | if you're afternoon is free we could work on M2 or something, otherwise if you're doing that vehicle thing... |
| 04:13.38 | Twingy | you got it |
| 04:13.40 | polyspin | I've got a 1pm with the S2 team lead. |
| 04:13.42 | Twingy | you got my cell # right? |
| 04:13.52 | Twingy | I was having internet trouble last friday |
| 04:13.59 | Twingy | comcast was down half the day for the first time in about 6 months |
| 04:14.02 | polyspin | I think so. I'll have to dig up my phone to check |
| 04:14.12 | Twingy | k, feel free to use it |
| 04:14.26 | polyspin | Yes, they're pulling cable in my 'hood and re-working their topology big time it seems. |
| 04:14.32 | Twingy | ahhhh |
| 04:16.07 | Twingy | night night :) |
| 04:16.48 | polyspin | T: it ends in 62? |
| 04:17.28 | polyspin | starts with your old area code? |
| 04:17.35 | Twingy | that's old |
| 04:17.43 | Twingy | just msg'd you the # |
| 04:17.52 | polyspin | thx |
| 04:17.55 | Twingy | if you change your mind and need me in later just holler |
| 04:18.25 | polyspin | k |
| 04:18.48 | polyspin | pity brlcad left. Wanted to ask him about ttm |
| 04:18.53 | polyspin | oh well. |
| 04:19.26 | brlcad | hmm, who what? .. |
| 04:19.49 | polyspin | Did you end up writing any ttm proposals? |
| 04:20.06 | polyspin | I did the basic support and development ones. |
| 04:20.44 | polyspin | I just uploaded it to bz if you want to look. |
| 04:20.58 | polyspin | I did most of it this weekend without the notes from our last meeting. (sigh) |
| 04:26.43 | brlcad | looks like you already have the items I would have brought forward |
| 04:27.02 | polyspin | whew. What a relief |
| 04:27.31 | brlcad | I would have thought/hoped more for the analyst support |
| 04:28.43 | polyspin | That category was the "everything you don't expect" one. |
| 04:29.23 | brlcad | yeah, which is usually quite a bit :) |
| 04:30.05 | polyspin | Hmmm. If I could quote numbers for what we've done this year it would help. I don't think we're gonna see more than .5 SY. |
| 04:30.37 | polyspin | Remeber, all the managerial... "stuff" has it's own separate TTM line next year. |
| 04:31.33 | polyspin | I'd love to have more concrete "deliverables" there to bolster the argument. BTW, that one's likely to get 6.6 funded, not 6.2 |
| 04:31.59 | brlcad | hrm, about 1mo from me since fy start (upgrades, installs, answering questions, disuccsions) -- i think you have done a whole lot more in that area |
| 04:33.42 | polyspin | Note I've put in for a minimum of .5 SY |
| 04:38.40 | polyspin | kewl: Asklund's PHD thesis is online. (guy who wrote the paper on OS CMP i've been quoting) |
| 04:39.15 | polyspin | The thesis is on CM |
| 04:39.21 | brlcad | nice |
| 04:39.58 | polyspin | "Themotivationoftheworkpresentedinthisthesisistoimprovethesupportforpeopleworkingtogether, althoughgeographicallydistributed." |
| 04:41.17 | brlcad | heh |
| 04:41.24 | brlcad | well, i must hit the zz now -- cya |
| 04:41.41 | polyspin | 'nite |
| 04:41.51 | polyspin | I need to sack out too. |
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| 19:33.40 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/other/Makefile.am: the checks are in place, so really ignore the tcl/tk, itcl, iwidgets directories if configure says we don't need them |
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| 23:02.26 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/configure.ac: |
| 23:02.26 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: add output messages for the tcl/itcl functionality checks to know why it fails |
| 23:02.26 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: if it fails at run-time. improve the itcl functionality check by decoupling the |
| 23:02.26 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: test from libtcl symbols -- this will let configure find a useable incrtcl even |
| 23:02.26 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: if the version of tcl/tk is too old (e.g. 8.3). finally, make tk build again.. |
| 23:37.21 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/configure.ac: oops, we need to look for itk too if we want it to link when we're using a system itcl |
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