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21:40.26starseekerAnybody around?
21:56.42brlcadyep
21:56.47brlcadhowdy starseeker
21:56.52starseekerHowdy!
21:57.03brlcadhow goes it?
21:57.04starseekerlooks like someone was able to fix the gentoo ebuild - trying it out nwo
21:57.06starseekerer now
21:57.09starseekergood!
21:57.10brlcadahh, really
21:57.13brlcadcool
21:57.27starseekerMight want to switch the readme credits to that person...
21:57.30starseekerchecking name...
21:58.29brlcadyou're still my gentoo POC until I see another name in here :)
21:59.12starseekerI'll tell him to mosey on in :-)  Michal Slonina is the miracle worker
21:59.32starseekerJust for reference the discussion is at http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77197
21:59.42starseekerCoool :-)
22:03.16brlcadnice, looks like he worked through several tcl/tk issues too
22:03.28brlcadi'll have to walk through that patch list
22:03.49brlcadwonder if I can merge them in before 7.2.6 ..
22:04.01starseekerYep.  Not sure if his diff is relevant to main brlcad tree or not?  Not to worry, it's quite normal for gentoo specific diffs to be maintained.
22:04.21brlcadit's always relevant ;)
22:04.33starseeker:-)
22:04.34brlcadif a system requires modifications, it's our policy to accommodate
22:05.22brlcadthere's rarely ever a situation where we can't accommodate easily enough, and often it's for the overall better even if it's only relevant to one or two platforms initially
22:05.49starseekerI'll post a note pointing him to this IRC channel - maybe we can get him to sign on :-)
22:06.03starseekerAnd/or anybody else following the bug
22:06.24brlcadquestion for you
22:06.28brlcadunder the DEPEND in the ebuild
22:06.29starseekershoot
22:06.36brlcadit lists >=dev-lang/tk-8.4
22:06.45brlcadthat means to use a system tk?
22:06.57starseekerHmm.  Normally, yes
22:07.09starseekeror rather, if this ebuild is installed
22:07.10brlcadodd.. that won't work
22:07.16starseekerit will also install tk on that system
22:07.26starseekerwhether it actually uses it is another question
22:07.28starseekerit may not
22:07.45brlcadahh, he just says it's dependant (though it actually isn't) .. doesn't use that later one
22:08.06starseekerin the past, I have had conflicts between system tk libs and brlcad's - I'm hoping the /usr/lib/brlcad stuff will fix that
22:08.28starseekerah - compile finished...
22:08.28brlcadour tk is actually modified, so we cannot use a system tk
22:08.32starseekerright.
22:08.40starseekerhard drive grinding...
22:08.48brlcadat least until someone presses the tcl guys to accept our mods
22:09.05starseekerI can add a "me too" to a petition
22:09.53starseekerDunno any of the tcl/tk guys myself
22:10.02starseekerer - Don't know
22:11.13starseekerShould I go ahead and mention the IRC channel in the bug report?  
22:11.53starseekerfingers crossed - old brlcad has been removed...
22:12.03starseekerlast time this happened tcl/tk didn't work...
22:13.11starseekeropps, NOW it's removing it
22:13.24starseekerme should read more carefully
22:14.46starseekeryep, there goes my system tcl/tk setup.  OK, reinstalling those...
22:15.13starseekeranybody remember what the other name conflicts were?
22:29.53brlcadhehe
22:30.13brlcadpossibly libbu, libbn, librt
22:30.52brlcadlibrt being an old deprecated system library in glibc I believe, libbn in openssl maybe? and libbu you probably didn't have ..
22:34.19brlcadother system libs that get installes are listed as disable items in the new ebuild
22:34.58brlcadurt, png, zlib
22:35.15brlcadand termlib in the latest 7.2.4, though the ebuild isn't updated with that yet
23:20.39starseekerOK, tcl/tk back on, emergeing glibc and openssl...
23:21.17brlcadyou might not have had a problem with those, I don't know
23:21.25brlcadI have no lidea what it actually conflicts with on a given gentoo box yet
23:21.43starseekercan't hurt - re-emerging on general principles is not a bad idea, really
23:21.52starseekerI need to totally rebuild this sucker
23:22.14starseekerbut I figured, as long as it's mildly foobared anyway, I'd give the new experimental ebuild a whirl :-)
23:22.46starseekerletsee - what's the name of the gui again?
23:23.34starseekerah mged
23:26.33brlcadyeah
23:26.39brlcadstarted up?
23:26.42starseekerHmm - no
23:26.50starseekerWhere do I paste output?
23:27.25brlcadhow long is it?
23:27.32starseeker~20 lines
23:27.35brlcadjust the first few lines should be enough
23:27.38starseekerldd output
23:27.46brlcadi know the whole "couldn't find itcl.tcl" deal
23:27.55starseekerthe mged startup is just mged: error while loading shared libraries: libtcl8.4.19
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23:28.30brlcadahh
23:28.30starseekerldd reports several such problems
23:28.37brlcadpaste the ldd then
23:28.41starseekerrighto
23:28.46starseekerin the chat window?
23:28.52brlcadhere's fine
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23:30.10starseeker/usr/lib/libitcl3.3.so is present, but libitcl3.3.0  apparently is not
23:30.25brlcadthat's all the >dev lines from the DEPEND
23:30.33brlcadthat library name is wrong too
23:30.49brlcadshouldn't be libtcl8.4.19
23:30.52starseekerHmm.
23:30.59brlcadshould be libtcl8.4.so.19
23:31.08starseekerDid you see anything in the ebuild or diff that could cause something like this?
23:31.09brlcadsame for the others
23:31.22brlcadit was a build of 7.0.x right?
23:31.29starseekerNo, 7.2.4
23:31.35brlcadhrm, then no
23:31.55brlcadthat would normally be a libtool bug if it was a brl-cad build
23:32.04starseekerOh joy
23:32.07starseekerletsee...
23:32.26brlcaddo you still have the build tree?
23:32.28starseeker(GNU libtool) 1.5.18
23:32.31brlcaddid it build libitcl3.3.0 ?
23:32.44starseekeritcl is a separate package in gentoo
23:32.56starseekerthat's those last few posts on the bug
23:32.56brlcadyes, but did it build brl-cad distribution of it?
23:33.07starseekerno, it installed it to /usr/lib
23:33.29brlcadhmm?  how did it install it if it didn't build it? :)
23:33.30starseekerI think the brlcad build tree got erased, let me check
23:33.55starseekerthe itcl package installed it - I don't know if brlcad did anything at all with it.  Let me see if I can find out
23:33.58brlcadprobably should stop saying "it" and be more specific..
23:34.15starseekeroh, right.  Sorry
23:34.21starseekeritcl
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23:34.31starseekerwell, both of us
23:35.03starseekerWell, it's got some itcl stuff in /usr/share/brlcad/include/brlcad/...
23:35.18brlcadthe --disable-itcl/itk/tcl options are not well tested since installing into /usr is still troublesome for other reasons
23:35.40brlcadyeah, those headers will get installed regardless, that's fine
23:36.13starseekerThe package does not report installing anything that looks like an itcl lib
23:36.21starseekerbrlcad package
23:36.29brlcadcan you force brl-cad to install again and capture the entire configure/build output?
23:36.39starseekerYes, I think so
23:37.00brlcademerge ...  > file.log 2>&1
23:37.52starseekerOkie doke...
23:39.22starseekerunderway...  should be done configuring in a moment...
23:39.30starseekerwhere do I post this?   it will be long
23:39.44brlcade-mail it to me if you would
23:39.49starseekerOK.
23:40.02brlcadhave my address?
23:40.08starseekerNot offhand
23:40.38brlcadthanks for working on it again
23:40.50starseekernot at all :-)
23:41.01starseekerI needed a break from the Maxima units package
23:41.47starseekerOK, got it - let me chop off the non config part...
23:42.09brlcadsend the whole thing if you like, that's fine
23:42.26starseekerOK, will do... on it's way via kmail
23:43.31starseekerSent.
23:47.13starseekerDingnabbit, he put the libraries in /usr/lib!  Bad ebuild writer! ;-)
23:48.40brlcadhmm.. that build was aborted
23:48.46starseekerright
23:48.54starseekerI aborted it after I had the configure output
23:49.12starseekerDidn't think you'd want the whole thing?
23:49.25brlcadahh, I wanted to see if it tried to build incrTcl, libtcl, etc
23:50.03brlcadmaybe let bwish link too
23:50.12starseekerOh, OK.  So do the whole thing?
23:50.21brlcadif you don't mind
23:50.25starseekerno problem
23:52.14starseekerestimated time remaining - 30 min
23:52.18brlcadyou can watch the build and save it to a log with:  emerge ... 2>&1 | tee build.log
23:52.33brlcador tail -f the log file
23:53.45starseekerCool :-).  It's already well underway, so I'll let it go.  What might happen, by the way, is this will work until I emerge the system tcl/tk - I think that has happened once or twice.
23:58.16brlcadyou can tail -f the log file from another terminal at any time .. that just "watches" the log file
23:58.21brlcade.g. tail -f output.log
23:59.06starseekerCool!
23:59.15starseekerNever knew that
23:59.33brlcaduseful for watching system logs too
23:59.47starseekerIndeed.

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