| 00:36.29 | CIA-8 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/rt/Makefile.am: vers.c is not dependant upon all the sources, just on common and view.c |
| 01:02.29 | Twingy | Makefile.am:22: ONLY_BENCHMARK does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL |
| 01:02.29 | Twingy | Makefile.am:29: ONLY_RTS does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL |
| 01:02.29 | Twingy | Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /usr/local/bin/automake-1.9 line 3661. |
| 01:02.29 | Twingy | db/Makefile.am:56: INSTALL_MODELS does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL |
| 01:02.29 | Twingy | Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /usr/local/bin/automake-1.9 line 3661. |
| 01:02.31 | Twingy | Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /usr/local/bin/automake-1.9 line 3661. |
| 01:02.40 | Twingy | Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /usr/local/bin/automake-1.9 line 3661. |
| 01:03.06 | brlcad | eh |
| 01:03.12 | Twingy | doing a build |
| 01:03.26 | Twingy | Making all in sh |
| 01:03.26 | Twingy | cd .. && make am--refresh |
| 01:03.26 | Twingy | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:03.27 | Twingy | configure.ac: no proper invocation of AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE was found. |
| 01:03.27 | Twingy | configure.ac: You should verify that configure.ac invokes AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE, |
| 01:03.27 | Twingy | configure.ac: that aclocal.m4 is present in the top-level directory, |
| 01:03.29 | Twingy | configure.ac: and that aclocal.m4 was recently regenerated (using aclocal). |
| 01:03.31 | Twingy | Makefile.am:22: ONLY_BENCHMARK does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL |
| 01:03.35 | Twingy | Makefile.am:29: ONLY_RTS does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL |
| 01:04.31 | brlcad | sounds like there's a typo in your configure.ac? |
| 01:04.44 | Twingy | just did a cvs update -dP |
| 01:04.53 | Twingy | about an hour ago |
| 01:04.57 | brlcad | and reran autogen.sh? |
| 01:05.02 | Twingy | no |
| 01:05.33 | Twingy | should I be recompiling the whole package everytime I do a cvs update? |
| 01:05.39 | brlcad | no |
| 01:05.44 | Twingy | k |
| 01:05.56 | brlcad | that warning is bogus -- not sure what it's from |
| 01:06.24 | brlcad | there's an AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE in configure.ac (two actually), and ONLY_* do appear in AM_CONDITIONALS |
| 01:06.39 | brlcad | maybe you had a cvs conflict on update |
| 01:06.46 | Twingy | k |
| 01:07.01 | Twingy | autogen finished |
| 01:07.05 | Twingy | rerunning configure |
| 01:07.17 | brlcad | if autogen finished.. then that warning is even more bogus |
| 01:07.22 | brlcad | s/warning/error/ |
| 01:08.04 | Twingy | running make |
| 01:08.09 | Twingy | oh well |
| 01:08.13 | Twingy | make didn't complain this time |
| 01:08.24 | brlcad | pretty cool.. i have rtarea reporting the exposed and unexposed surface areas |
| 01:08.33 | Twingy | for rtweight? |
| 01:08.40 | brlcad | rtarea |
| 01:08.44 | Twingy | something new? |
| 01:09.04 | brlcad | no, it was an old tool that would tell you "area = 123.321" |
| 01:09.23 | brlcad | now it tells you per region how much is used, and computes unexposed surface areas too |
| 01:09.36 | Twingy | are you evaluating the surface areas by doing the double integral or just firing craploads of rays at it? |
| 01:09.41 | brlcad | like how much of an engine is presented from a particular view |
| 01:09.57 | Twingy | s/you/rtarea |
| 01:10.26 | brlcad | shoots rays at user-defined resolution |
| 01:10.38 | Twingy | take very long? |
| 01:10.53 | brlcad | not really |
| 01:10.55 | Twingy | cool |
| 01:11.02 | brlcad | much less time than it takes to render |
| 01:11.02 | Twingy | hrm |
| 01:11.06 | Twingy | I could use that for my rocket |
| 01:11.11 | Twingy | computing center of pressure |
| 01:11.16 | brlcad | it's just basically a ray bean counter that projects all the way through |
| 01:11.26 | Twingy | gotcha |
| 01:12.25 | brlcad | doesn't do total surface area yet -- just area projected onto the viewplane approximated by the viewgrid size |
| 01:12.51 | Twingy | ah, hrm |
| 01:13.01 | brlcad | so it's totally view dependant -- but they use it for something |
| 01:13.08 | Twingy | hrm |
| 01:13.22 | Twingy | wouldn't be that hard to make the rays emit from an icosphere |
| 01:13.33 | Twingy | that'd give a uniform area distribution |
| 01:13.47 | brlcad | the new tessellator idea I have now from the conference should be able to do a fast total surface area calculation |
| 01:13.53 | Twingy | yah |
| 01:14.04 | Twingy | tesselated stuff is easy peasy to get surface area for |
| 01:29.26 | Twingy | hrm |
| 01:29.29 | Twingy | you commit that gui thing yet? |
| 01:37.07 | CIA-8 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/configure.ac: add configuration options to enable/disable the proe plugin |
| 01:38.23 | CIA-8 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/configure.ac: revert the new data directory location until mged is properly set to search there for the tclscripts and help files |
| 01:38.34 | brlcad | fixed |
| 01:40.06 | Twingy | sweet |
| 02:49.15 | Twingy | hrm |
| 02:49.36 | Twingy | this is surprisingly entertaining code to work on |
| 02:49.47 | Twingy | reminds me of the C64 |
| 02:50.01 | brlcad | pic? |
| 02:50.07 | Twingy | the console for IGVT |
| 02:50.11 | brlcad | ah |
| 02:50.35 | Twingy | press ` while you are running and the console appears ... quake style y0 |
| 02:51.01 | Twingy | throw some commands at it, and back to the images you go |
| 02:54.01 | brlcad | the way it should be |
| 02:54.06 | brlcad | good stuff |
| 02:54.12 | Twingy | aww yea |
| 02:54.43 | Twingy | I notice |
| 02:54.51 | Twingy | CIA-8 doesn't always post cvs updates |
| 02:54.57 | Twingy | commits rather |
| 02:56.25 | brlcad | yeah, usually means scanline's working on it, doing something to it |
| 02:56.59 | brlcad | the e-mails still arrive, though |
| 02:57.00 | Twingy | they going or not? |
| 02:57.14 | brlcad | scanline's not |
| 02:57.17 | brlcad | purple_cow is |
| 02:57.22 | Twingy | sgi? |
| 02:57.42 | Twingy | paying for david that is |
| 02:57.57 | brlcad | paying for most, yeah |
| 02:58.05 | brlcad | though not sgi |
| 02:58.18 | brlcad | other job/group/something |
| 02:58.27 | Twingy | k |
| 02:59.08 | Twingy | f0shizzle mah command line nizzle |
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| 05:06.51 | Twingy | sean, you there? |
| 05:08.41 | brlcad | yup |
| 05:09.26 | Twingy | I'm going to tie python into adrt |
| 05:09.40 | Twingy | and I need a ${PYTHON} |
| 05:09.52 | Twingy | and a @PYTHON_CFLAGS@ |
| 05:10.21 | Twingy | got any ideas? |
| 05:11.06 | brlcad | not off the top of my head |
| 05:11.19 | Twingy | python doesn't seem to come with any sdl-config like script |
| 05:11.32 | Twingy | so that could make detection of the include folder tricky |
| 05:12.04 | brlcad | the library should know |
| 05:12.11 | Twingy | hrm? |
| 05:12.17 | brlcad | could be checks similar to what I had to do for tcl |
| 05:12.34 | brlcad | you embedding or just using? |
| 05:12.37 | Twingy | embedding |
| 05:12.42 | brlcad | so what's the library? |
| 05:12.44 | Twingy | as the scripting language for the console |
| 05:12.47 | Twingy | -lpython |
| 05:13.14 | brlcad | that becomes a simple library check, maybe another one for headers |
| 05:13.36 | Twingy | would it be much effort to add right now? |
| 05:13.37 | brlcad | the library itself should provide some means to locate it's own scripts |
| 05:14.23 | brlcad | not too much effort, but it's going to need a slew of testing |
| 05:14.37 | brlcad | wouldn't recommend it for this iteration given there's just a week left |
| 05:14.56 | brlcad | but if you want to, i can look into it more tomorrow |
| 05:14.56 | Twingy | hrm |
| 05:15.36 | Twingy | I'd like to have a working console by friday for the meeting with the pauls... and it's either spend time writing my own command processor, or just use python... |
| 05:15.48 | brlcad | the check for the library itself is simple enough to add, so are the headers -- that should be pretty evident to add in the configure.ac |
| 05:16.00 | Twingy | checking |
| 05:16.48 | brlcad | basically three sections, a header, a library, and a system feature |
| 05:17.05 | Twingy | k |
| 05:17.16 | brlcad | the "system feature" section will just check the header and library results and enable/disable the feature |
| 05:17.45 | brlcad | you tested if mged worked? |
| 05:18.12 | Twingy | PYTHONLIB="" |
| 05:18.12 | Twingy | AC_CHECK_LIB(python, deflate, PYTHONLIB="-lpython") |
| 05:18.20 | Twingy | haven't updated yet, one sec |
| 05:19.19 | brlcad | deflate isn't a libpython symbol |
| 05:19.39 | Twingy | ah |
| 05:19.44 | Twingy | hehe, stole the one from zlib |
| 05:19.52 | Twingy | let me nm for something |
| 05:20.08 | CIA-8 | BRL-CAD: 03twingy * 10brlcad/src/adrt/ (7 files in 4 dirs): more additions to the console and beginning to add python interpreter. |
| 05:23.26 | brlcad | hrm .. okay I got some good python tests |
| 05:23.31 | Twingy | oh? |
| 05:23.34 | brlcad | it ain't pretty, but it should work |
| 05:23.36 | Twingy | k |
| 05:24.23 | brlcad | have to basically invoke the interpreter and ask it where it's stuff is |
| 05:24.23 | Twingy | but everyone seems to gag over perl |
| 05:24.42 | brlcad | e.g. python -c "from distutils import sysconfig; print sysconfig.get_python_inc()" |
| 05:24.43 | Twingy | ah |
| 05:24.49 | Twingy | nifty |
| 05:24.57 | brlcad | fugly |
| 05:25.08 | Twingy | not as nice as sdl-config |
| 05:25.50 | brlcad | that's one of a handful |
| 05:26.04 | Twingy | I should write, go_take_a_break.sh which runs autogen, configure, and make |
| 05:26.44 | Twingy | err |
| 05:26.45 | brlcad | i used to have an option to autogen.sh that did that for y ou |
| 05:27.05 | Twingy | cvsupdate -dP && ./autogen.sh && ./configure --enable-optimized --prefix=/usr/local && make -j5 |
| 05:27.34 | Twingy | ^-- go_take_a_nap.sh |
| 05:27.41 | brlcad | eek, I wouldn't do the -dP every time |
| 05:27.52 | Twingy | I just did a make |
| 05:27.57 | Twingy | and it didn't build anything new |
| 05:27.59 | Twingy | so... |
| 05:28.07 | Twingy | let's see what this make install does for me |
| 05:28.20 | brlcad | hmm |
| 05:28.25 | brlcad | i suspect it won't work |
| 05:28.32 | brlcad | the search paths are compiled in to libbu and mged |
| 05:28.33 | Twingy | I suspect you're right :) |
| 05:28.43 | Twingy | maybe I'll do a clean build |
| 05:28.48 | Twingy | ^-- goto_bed.sh |
| 05:28.48 | brlcad | you should be able to make clean those two dirs |
| 05:28.52 | Twingy | k |
| 05:29.07 | Twingy | yep, no go |
| 05:29.14 | brlcad | actually.. hrm |
| 05:29.19 | brlcad | it should have worked |
| 05:29.32 | Twingy | cleaned libbu and mged |
| 05:29.36 | Twingy | compiling |
| 05:29.47 | brlcad | that's not the problem.. that's why it _didn't_work.. because it wasn't compiled in |
| 05:30.02 | brlcad | did make install create a /usr/local/tclscripts? |
| 05:30.19 | Twingy | no |
| 05:30.36 | brlcad | grep DATA configure.ac |
| 05:30.57 | Twingy | # BRLCAD_DATA_DIR='${pkgdatadir}/${BRLCAD_VERSION}' |
| 05:30.57 | Twingy | BRLCAD_DATA_DIR='${datadir}' |
| 05:30.57 | Twingy | AC_SUBST(BRLCAD_DATA_DIR) |
| 05:30.57 | Twingy | SAMPLE_APPLICATIONS_DIR='$(BRLCAD_DATA_DIR)/sample_applications' |
| 05:31.15 | brlcad | grep datadir src/tclscripts/Makefile |
| 05:31.44 | Twingy | pkgdatadir = $(datadir)/brlcad |
| 05:31.44 | Twingy | BRLCAD_DATA_DIR = ${datadir} |
| 05:31.44 | Twingy | datadir = ${prefix}/share |
| 05:31.44 | Twingy | [justin@borg:~/src/brlcad]$ |
| 05:31.59 | brlcad | ahhh |
| 05:32.14 | brlcad | oops |
| 05:32.18 | Twingy | o.O |
| 05:32.37 | brlcad | it's going to be messy in /usr/local |
| 05:32.46 | Twingy | urf |
| 05:32.48 | brlcad | cp -R /usr/local/share/tclscripts /usr/local/. |
| 05:32.57 | Twingy | k |
| 05:32.58 | brlcad | cp -R /usr/local/share/html /usr/local/. |
| 05:33.02 | brlcad | that should do it |
| 05:33.14 | Twingy | cp or mv? |
| 05:33.20 | brlcad | either |
| 05:33.24 | Twingy | mv |
| 05:33.55 | Twingy | no usrlocalsharehtml |
| 05:34.25 | brlcad | er /usr/local/share/doc/html |
| 05:34.47 | Twingy | k |
| 05:34.50 | Twingy | it's werkin |
| 05:36.26 | brlcad | i'll have to work on the interpreter calls later today .. testing for binaries is a bit harder than libs/headers |
| 05:36.36 | Twingy | k |
| 05:36.47 | Twingy | ev is slow |
| 05:36.54 | Twingy | maybe I shouldn't have done that |
| 05:39.03 | Twingy | erf |
| 05:39.26 | Twingy | mged is choking on this bot |
| 05:41.15 | brlcad | heh |
| 05:41.28 | brlcad | that was one of the good things I got from the conference that I'm looking forward to implementing |
| 05:41.35 | Twingy | hrm? |
| 05:42.15 | Twingy | this bot is like un editable on mged |
| 05:42.24 | brlcad | two algorithms related to very nice tesselation techniques |
| 05:42.25 | Twingy | just sends mged into like an infinite loop |
| 05:42.29 | Twingy | trying to do a primitve selection |
| 05:42.31 | Twingy | it's goofy |
| 05:42.32 | brlcad | parallelizable even |
| 05:42.53 | Twingy | why would mged spend so much time |
| 05:42.57 | Twingy | changing a mesh from red to white |
| 05:43.21 | brlcad | not based so much on the silly repetitive "tesselate this sphere to detail BLAH and figure out what's inside/outside/on an edge" junk |
| 05:43.58 | Twingy | okay |
| 05:44.03 | Twingy | so how am I supposed to rotate this dragon |
| 05:44.09 | brlcad | ev'ing a bot gets exponentially worse due to how the tesselator works |
| 05:44.10 | Twingy | if trying to edit it sends it into infinite loop |
| 05:44.22 | brlcad | ev isn't edit |
| 05:44.27 | Twingy | forget ev |
| 05:44.27 | TheLastSpartan | I've never heard of ev, Twingy! |
| 05:44.29 | Twingy | that was like 10 minutes ago |
| 05:44.35 | brlcad | heh |
| 05:44.50 | Twingy | Edit->Prim Selection |
| 05:45.14 | brlcad | just "e blah" |
| 05:45.31 | Twingy | I can draw ply_bot |
| 05:45.45 | Twingy | no problem |
| 05:45.49 | Twingy | editing it is an issue |
| 05:46.03 | Twingy | hrm |
| 05:46.08 | Twingy | l ply_bot was bad |
| 05:46.20 | brlcad | not too useful for large bots |
| 05:46.30 | Twingy | not usable with large bots |
| 05:46.36 | Twingy | at all |
| 05:46.43 | Twingy | on a 50 gigglehurts computer |
| 05:46.52 | Twingy | hrmmm |
| 05:46.57 | Twingy | I'll have to load this into blender then |
| 05:47.15 | brlcad | twas the last primitive added with only minimal support.. so yeah, it sucks |
| 05:47.30 | Twingy | I dunno why doing a list on triangles |
| 05:47.43 | Twingy | would take a long time before it started to do anything |
| 05:47.44 | Twingy | you like |
| 05:47.47 | Twingy | loop through an array |
| 05:47.49 | Twingy | and print |
| 05:47.53 | Twingy | there's no preprocessing |
| 05:48.06 | brlcad | *shrug* |
| 05:48.09 | brlcad | probably tcl buffering |
| 05:48.32 | Twingy | so much for complaining that mged isn't working :( |
| 05:48.58 | Twingy | might as well |
| 05:49.19 | brlcad | doesn't sort assemblies alphabetically |
| 05:49.33 | brlcad | fix it ;) |
| 05:49.35 | Twingy | feed it into qsort? |
| 05:49.41 | Twingy | I already did, adrt :) |
| 05:49.53 | Twingy | just need to add a geometry adding feature to it now ^_^ |
| 05:49.54 | brlcad | that aint editing |
| 05:50.03 | Twingy | well, I'd rather do that |
| 05:50.14 | Twingy | than try and unkludge somone elses code |
| 05:50.59 | Twingy | we should talk about this tesselation stuff |
| 05:51.08 | Twingy | maybe we can make it the new geometry editor |
| 05:51.15 | Twingy | but having do csg internally |
| 05:51.25 | Twingy | or have a csg representation internally |
| 05:51.32 | Twingy | that way it doesn't lose fidelity |
| 05:52.15 | Twingy | the primitives would get a quick tesselation and shoved into the viewer/editor |
| 05:53.58 | Twingy | mmm bed time |
| 05:54.08 | brlcad | time for me to go home i think |
| 05:54.33 | Twingy | hrm |
| 05:54.36 | Twingy | we need a futon |
| 05:54.38 | Twingy | at work |
| 05:54.47 | Twingy | for the office |
| 05:55.00 | brlcad | yep |
| 05:55.03 | Twingy | maybe we can find a cheap one and we'll both pitch in for it |
| 05:55.09 | Twingy | bet we could find something decent for under $100 |
| 05:55.12 | Twingy | at ikea |
| 05:55.16 | brlcad | prolly |
| 05:55.25 | Twingy | with pillow and blanket |
| 05:56.02 | Twingy | I wish they'd turn that wash closet into a shower |
| 05:56.25 | Twingy | a tiny shower would rock |
| 05:56.33 | brlcad | yeah |
| 05:56.37 | Twingy | maybe we can ask lisa |
| 05:56.47 | Twingy | since we have people that exercise and stay over night and stuff |
| 05:56.54 | Twingy | it's already got the plumbing |
| 05:57.07 | Twingy | just a matter of paying $1k for somone to come in and install something |
| 05:57.38 | Twingy | anywho |
| 05:57.43 | Twingy | laundry is done |
| 05:57.43 | Twingy | later |
| 05:59.12 | brlcad | later |
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| 16:17.34 | Teppy | I'm working on a new MMORPG based on "Tales of Alvin Maker", a series of books by Orson Scott Card, and I'm exploring the use of CSG for a part of that project. |
| 16:23.20 | Teppy | If anyone here can answer a few questions about whether brlcad would help with my project, just chat - I'll idle for a bit. |
| 16:27.19 | archivist | yeah do lurk a while ppl here do reply later when they are able |
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| 22:31.36 | CIA-8 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/rt/viewarea.c: (log message trimmed) |
| 22:31.36 | CIA-8 | BRL-CAD: Shazam. This makes a fairly extensive improvement (pretty much a rewrite) of |
| 22:31.36 | CIA-8 | BRL-CAD: rtarea to report both the presented and exposed area projections for both |
| 22:31.36 | CIA-8 | BRL-CAD: regions and assemblies. The regions are sorted alphabetically, the assemblies |
| 22:31.36 | CIA-8 | BRL-CAD: are indented by maximum encountered visitation depth (which isn't the same as |
| 22:31.36 | CIA-8 | BRL-CAD: the construction hierarchy, but good enough for organizing the list somewhat), |
| 22:31.36 | CIA-8 | BRL-CAD: and the number of hits are reported as well. more work is needed to alphabetize |
| 22:32.42 | CIA-8 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/rt/rtarea.1: document the new rtarea output including details on the difference between presented and exposed surface areas, this implements sf request 1225052 from dwaynelk |
| 22:56.26 | CIA-8 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/rt/viewarea.c: refactor the printing of region areas to a function |
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| 23:13.24 | CIA-8 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/rt/viewarea.c: refactor the two assembly book-keeping functions into just one using the area type enum type. also fix the previous refactoring's count of region encounters. |
| 23:15.44 | Twingy | rdy for some python? :) |
| 23:33.58 | CIA-8 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/rt/viewarea.c: refactor the two assembly printing sections into one function, print_assembly_area_list |
| 23:36.45 | archivist_ | indistinct error msg: error: source directory already configured; run "make distclean" there first |
| 23:36.45 | archivist_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:37.55 | archivist | in /configure btw |
| 23:52.03 | Twingy | sean, you mind if I commit now? |