| 00:05.09 | brlcad | Twingy: of course if it's going to break the build .. not ready yet for configure.ac changes |
| 00:06.30 | brlcad | move adrt from SUBDIRS to DIST_SUBDIRS in src/Makefile.am and you could |
| 00:06.44 | brlcad | since that would make you have to cd src/adrt && make |
| 00:07.13 | brlcad | archivist: what were you trying to do |
| 00:07.36 | brlcad | "there" is the source directory .. i.e. the directory with all the sources ;) |
| 00:08.03 | Twingy | k |
| 00:09.41 | *** join/#brlcad jrobey (~jason@63-231-113-65.albq.qwest.net) |
| 00:09.46 | Twingy | hi jason |
| 00:10.27 | jrobey | hello |
| 00:10.59 | jrobey | I had a question on rise--wondering if you could walk me through it again |
| 00:11.27 | jrobey | I had it running at work all day yesterday and didn't see any progress indicators in master, slave, or observer |
| 00:11.52 | jrobey | thought I might be setting it up wrong--especially since my computer wasn't churning madly away at anything |
| 00:12.10 | jrobey | hope all is well on the east |
| 00:12.21 | Twingy | hrm |
| 00:12.35 | Twingy | you were seeing progress on your laptop right? |
| 00:12.50 | jrobey | no, that was what I was running on at work |
| 00:12.54 | Twingy | ah |
| 00:13.04 | jrobey | didn't get a chance to finish the new download until the next day |
| 00:13.16 | jrobey | I'll start off w/ a cvs update, though |
| 00:13.21 | Twingy | one sec |
| 00:13.24 | Twingy | ah |
| 00:13.24 | Twingy | k |
| 00:13.28 | Twingy | yea, get a cvs update |
| 00:13.33 | Twingy | I'm tying in python |
| 00:13.48 | Twingy | lemme know when you're done |
| 00:14.04 | jrobey | oh, and I still have to build ardt separately useing -lgpm, don't know if that is something that is easy to update |
| 00:14.08 | jrobey | k, cool beans |
| 00:14.20 | jrobey | going to look at the java interface tonight in brl-cad |
| 00:14.21 | Twingy | I'd try setting in env.db |
| 00:14.32 | Twingy | the rendering method to ... phong |
| 00:14.40 | Twingy | and see if it atleast spits out a picture |
| 00:14.53 | jrobey | k |
| 00:14.56 | jrobey | will do |
| 00:15.06 | Twingy | if it does then set it back to path,1024 or whatever |
| 00:15.27 | Twingy | eventually rise and igvt will both have consoles |
| 00:15.55 | Twingy | should make them alot more friendly |
| 00:19.29 | jrobey | sounds good--want a java console on top of them? |
| 00:19.51 | Twingy | the console is graphical |
| 00:19.56 | jrobey | could make it web-deployable |
| 00:19.58 | jrobey | right |
| 00:20.09 | Twingy | the python console is done on the master |
| 00:20.13 | Twingy | it could be run on a handheld |
| 00:20.16 | jrobey | ah, cool |
| 00:20.16 | Twingy | doesn't require libraries |
| 00:20.21 | jrobey | sweet--very nice |
| 00:20.30 | Twingy | just ability to network and display pixels |
| 00:20.50 | jrobey | right, cool--do you have anything that starts up services remotely? |
| 00:21.06 | Twingy | no... mike is working on integrating mpi into it... |
| 00:21.16 | jrobey | that was always an issue for me--how to get remote machines to work w/out me having to start a process on each one |
| 00:21.21 | jrobey | ah, cool |
| 00:21.24 | Twingy | ah |
| 00:21.32 | Twingy | well for clusters we have scripts |
| 00:21.40 | Twingy | that is a simple shell script |
| 00:21.40 | jrobey | right, makes sense |
| 00:21.43 | Twingy | that uses rsh to login to them |
| 00:21.52 | Twingy | and run it in daemon mode |
| 00:22.16 | Twingy | a little tricky to setup, but works great |
| 00:22.23 | jrobey | the best I've done when we were pooling our actual work computers to run things overnight was a web based deployment where folks had to click on a link before going home |
| 00:22.33 | jrobey | ah, that makes sense |
| 00:22.55 | jrobey | not very secure in the open I imagine, but doesn't need to be |
| 00:23.39 | Twingy | well, I've not bothered with thinking about security |
| 00:23.52 | Twingy | I'll let somone fork it if they want to do something like that |
| 00:24.13 | Twingy | if somone wants to path trace over the net where latency and bandwidth are crap.. I could see that maybe |
| 00:24.18 | Twingy | but definetly not the interactive part |
| 00:24.33 | Twingy | your update finish? |
| 00:29.07 | brlcad | jrobey: it's actually krsh -- Kerberized rsh so sans the usual insecurities of rsh |
| 00:29.34 | brlcad | at least in-house |
| 00:29.40 | Twingy | no... |
| 00:29.45 | Twingy | it's rsh |
| 00:30.04 | Twingy | that's why it's in a sandbox |
| 00:30.17 | jrobey | ah |
| 00:30.23 | brlcad | hrm |
| 00:30.33 | Twingy | and yes howard approved this |
| 00:30.33 | brlcad | on shiva, but anywhere else it's not |
| 00:30.40 | Twingy | correct |
| 00:30.43 | Twingy | cause nobody is diskless |
| 00:30.47 | Twingy | and kinky like us |
| 00:30.53 | jrobey | heh |
| 00:31.03 | jrobey | bbiab--gotta put my burgers on the grill |
| 00:31.08 | Twingy | you dont update? |
| 00:31.10 | Twingy | done? |
| 00:31.17 | jrobey | yeah |
| 00:31.19 | Twingy | k |
| 00:31.19 | jrobey | starting build |
| 00:31.47 | jrobey | long day--just typed ant three times at the console to no avail |
| 00:33.26 | Twingy | heh |
| 00:41.11 | Twingy | hrm |
| 00:41.17 | Twingy | I still have 16 years of payments left on the house |
| 00:43.46 | CIA-8 | BRL-CAD: 03twingy * 10brlcad/src/ (7 files in 4 dirs): Skeleton framework for python integration in place, console 75% done. |
| 00:50.49 | jrobey | brlcad: do I still need to be copying 7.3.0/tclscripts and 7.3.0/doc/html over? |
| 00:51.56 | brlcad | yes, cept they are in share now, not share/brlcad/7.3.0 |
| 00:52.18 | jrobey | ah, k |
| 00:52.23 | brlcad | only a half-revert until I can finish fixing a couple other issues |
| 00:52.31 | jrobey | k |
| 00:55.10 | jrobey | Twingy: I finished update and build and am running at 512 with phong |
| 00:56.47 | jrobey | top doesn't show anything I recognize as rise or brl-cad in the top 20 or so processes, but I'll let it run for a bit to see if any progress shows--will progress show in the observer? |
| 00:57.46 | jrobey | also, can a slave stay up through reboot of master and observer, or should they come down too? |
| 00:58.07 | jrobey | by reboot, I just mean kill and restart |
| 01:00.12 | *** join/#brlcad echristl (~echristl@cpe-065-187-243-074.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 01:01.07 | echristl | Hello? I was referred here for help installing Brlcad. |
| 01:01.14 | brlcad | hello |
| 01:01.32 | echristl | Hi. I'm running Fedora Core 3. |
| 01:01.40 | brlcad | sorry to hear that, continue ;) |
| 01:01.53 | echristl | I followed the directions on the BRLCAD website for installing. |
| 01:02.07 | echristl | Now all I get is the gui error |
| 01:02.08 | brlcad | those are probably already a bit out-dated |
| 01:02.11 | brlcad | ahh |
| 01:02.15 | brlcad | you checked out from cvs? |
| 01:02.26 | echristl | yes |
| 01:02.32 | brlcad | bug recently injected, simple fix |
| 01:02.48 | echristl | I like simple |
| 01:02.54 | brlcad | copy the tclscripts and doc/html directories to the brl-cad root |
| 01:03.04 | brlcad | what was your --prefix? |
| 01:03.11 | echristl | /usr/brlcad |
| 01:03.15 | Twingy | back |
| 01:03.43 | Twingy | jrobey, you're using rise correct? |
| 01:03.45 | brlcad | so, it's mv /usr/brlcad/share/tclscripts /usr/brlcad/. && mv /usr/brlcad/share/doc/html /usr/brlcad/. |
| 01:05.03 | echristl | would that be /usr/brlcad/share/brlcad/7.3.0/tclscripts ? |
| 01:05.30 | brlcad | ahh, you got it from a couple days ago |
| 01:05.31 | brlcad | yes |
| 01:05.36 | brlcad | or a day ago |
| 01:05.45 | echristl | day before yesterday |
| 01:05.53 | brlcad | bingo ;) |
| 01:08.24 | echristl | yoohoo!! there it is. |
| 01:08.55 | echristl | Now to see if I can convert all the Pro/Desktop drawings of my airplane to BRLCAD. |
| 01:09.00 | CIA-8 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/ (configure.ac doc/Makefile.am): complete the 'fix'/revert of the new installation directories back to prefix until mged is updated properly |
| 01:10.16 | echristl | Thank you very much, brlcad. I'm off to find a tutorial. |
| 01:10.21 | brlcad | glad to help |
| 01:10.30 | brlcad | there are tutorials on the website |
| 01:10.38 | brlcad | an extensive one on mged basics |
| 01:10.56 | brlcad | and a more advanced one as well |
| 01:11.09 | echristl | I'll go there first. Thank you, again. |
| 01:22.51 | CIA-8 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/rt/viewarea.c: now the assemblies are sorted too. each depth is independently sorted. |
| 01:38.08 | CIA-8 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/NEWS: rewrote rtarea for region and assemblies support; added sorting and hierarchy support to rtarea. include a paragraph describing/emphasizing the new rtarea changes since they are user-requested |
| 01:42.42 | CIA-8 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/ (configure.ac NEWS README): bump the revision up to 7.3.1 for a progress marking. technically rtarea is an incompatible update, albeit not binary incompatible |
| 01:56.55 | jrobey | Twingy, yes, using rise at 512 w/ phong |
| 01:57.29 | Twingy | ah |
| 01:57.32 | Twingy | don't feed 512 to phong |
| 01:57.37 | jrobey | still no status or apparent process |
| 01:57.41 | Twingy | the 512 is paths per pixel only for path tracing |
| 01:58.42 | jrobey | ah |
| 01:58.59 | Twingy | http://www.rafb.net/paste/ |
| 01:59.02 | Twingy | paste your env.db there |
| 02:08.04 | jrobey | k |
| 02:09.45 | jrobey | k, done |
| 02:09.54 | Twingy | url? |
| 02:10.02 | jrobey | http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/RJaavc39.html |
| 02:10.35 | jrobey | bbiab--dog walking time |
| 02:11.39 | Twingy | image_size,640,480,40,40 |
| 02:11.50 | Twingy | rendering_method,phong |
| 02:39.28 | *** join/#brlcad jrobe1 (~jason@63-231-113-65.albq.qwest.net) |
| 02:40.12 | Twingy | hi |
| 02:40.26 | jrobe1 | hi, I'm back, updating env.db |
| 02:40.47 | Twingy | k |
| 02:40.56 | jrobe1 | oops, I'm logged on twice--how do I get rid of one of these |
| 02:41.05 | Twingy | goto the other one and kill it |
| 02:42.24 | jrobe1 | not sure if I can dothat in gaim |
| 02:42.47 | Twingy | *shrug* I never used gaim for irc |
| 02:42.59 | jrobe1 | probably a good reason for that |
| 02:43.18 | jrobe1 | I do get kicked off a lot |
| 02:43.33 | jrobe1 | what client do you use again? |
| 02:43.43 | Twingy | BitchX and Xchat |
| 02:44.05 | jrobe1 | ah, yes |
| 02:50.26 | jrobe1 | yeah |
| 02:50.42 | Twingy | hrm? |
| 02:52.03 | jrobe1 | my phantom just logged off |
| 02:52.31 | jrobe1 | I'm running rise, but still no status and my processes seem to always be asleep, but that might not indicate anything |
| 02:53.17 | Twingy | you made that changed to env.db? |
| 02:53.32 | Twingy | let me login to your box |
| 02:53.55 | jrobe1 | yeah |
| 02:54.19 | Twingy | k |
| 02:54.19 | jrobe1 | I'm behind earthlink dsl, so I'm not sure that is possible |
| 02:54.23 | Twingy | I'm in |
| 02:54.29 | jrobe1 | seet |
| 02:54.31 | jrobe1 | sweet |
| 02:54.37 | Twingy | got burlycad there? |
| 02:54.45 | jrobe1 | ?? |
| 02:54.49 | Twingy | on www |
| 02:55.07 | Twingy | btw, you're not using rise_observer right? |
| 02:55.19 | jrobe1 | yes I am |
| 02:55.21 | Twingy | eek |
| 02:55.29 | Twingy | it's broken right now |
| 02:55.31 | jrobe1 | looking at xchat and rafb |
| 02:55.32 | jrobe1 | ah |
| 02:55.34 | Twingy | just use rise_slave and rise_master |
| 02:55.39 | jrobe1 | heh |
| 02:55.39 | jrobe1 | k |
| 02:55.48 | Twingy | rise got pushed onto back burner until july 12 |
| 02:55.55 | jrobe1 | ah |
| 02:56.09 | Twingy | you should see progress going up now |
| 02:56.20 | jrobe1 | I killed that and got scene data received and prepping geometry |
| 02:56.48 | Twingy | should only take a second or two to compute the image |
| 02:56.57 | jrobe1 | master just got a segmentation fault |
| 02:57.00 | jrobe1 | let me try again |
| 02:57.11 | Twingy | hrm |
| 02:57.18 | Twingy | something is wrong with your input files then |
| 02:57.33 | Twingy | it's not very forgiving if you have a typo in your input files |
| 02:57.48 | jrobe1 | yeah, it worked |
| 02:57.51 | Twingy | k |
| 02:57.55 | Twingy | shoulda generated a ppm file |
| 02:58.08 | Twingy | does it look like a humvee? |
| 02:58.38 | jrobe1 | I don't see a ppm so maybe it didnt |
| 02:58.46 | Twingy | in the humanim folder |
| 02:58.55 | Twingy | it puts it in the project folder for you |
| 02:58.59 | jrobe1 | jason@ice:~/humanim$ rise_master -p . -g ./mesh.db |
| 02:58.59 | jrobe1 | Preparing frame #1 of 1 |
| 02:58.59 | jrobe1 | Master is shutting down, standby. |
| 02:58.59 | jrobe1 | Total data transfered: 2088 kB |
| 02:58.59 | jrobe1 | jason@ice:~/humanim$ ls |
| 02:59.24 | jrobe1 | no directories in humanim |
| 02:59.34 | Twingy | just do |
| 02:59.35 | Twingy | echo * |
| 02:59.56 | jrobe1 | jason@ice:~/humanim$ echo * |
| 02:59.56 | jrobe1 | env.db env.db.bak first.g first.plot first.sh frame.db frame.db.bak mesh.db properties.db texture.db |
| 03:00.18 | Twingy | hrmph |
| 03:00.25 | Twingy | maybe it's not spitting them out right now |
| 03:00.27 | Twingy | one sec |
| 03:00.32 | jrobe1 | k |
| 03:00.44 | Twingy | ah |
| 03:00.45 | Twingy | hehe |
| 03:00.46 | Twingy | yah |
| 03:00.50 | Twingy | I have the saving part comented out |
| 03:00.56 | Twingy | go into rise/master/master.c |
| 03:00.57 | jrobe1 | awesome ;) |
| 03:01.00 | Twingy | search for // |
| 03:01.07 | Twingy | uncomment those 3 lines |
| 03:01.08 | jrobe1 | k |
| 03:01.10 | Twingy | I'll commit |
| 03:02.18 | jrobe1 | vi is cool |
| 03:02.41 | Twingy | not as cool as tapping moorsecode through your serial port with a couple wires |
| 03:02.45 | Twingy | j/k :) |
| 03:02.50 | jrobe1 | lol |
| 03:05.16 | jrobe1 | uh, oh, now I get a Segmentation fault every time I run rise_master |
| 03:05.22 | jrobe1 | right away |
| 03:07.24 | Twingy | let me test if it works on my end |
| 03:07.29 | jrobe1 | k |
| 03:08.33 | Twingy | hrm |
| 03:08.37 | Twingy | try doing a make clean in adrt |
| 03:08.38 | jrobe1 | did a clean update in master.c |
| 03:08.44 | jrobe1 | will try to make and run |
| 03:08.49 | Twingy | I just tested on my fbsd box and it worked |
| 03:08.54 | jrobe1 | k |
| 03:09.00 | Twingy | try something different with the paths |
| 03:09.12 | Twingy | rise_master -p /full/path/.. -g /full/path/.../mesh.db |
| 03:09.21 | Twingy | just curious |
| 03:09.31 | jrobe1 | k |
| 03:09.35 | Twingy | there's a bug there |
| 03:09.41 | Twingy | I haven't fixed, known about it for months |
| 03:10.29 | jrobe1 | ah, nevermind--I'm starting from the wrong directory |
| 03:10.33 | Twingy | ah |
| 03:11.22 | Twingy | urf |
| 03:11.27 | jrobe1 | much better |
| 03:11.32 | Twingy | still atleast 8 hours left on this python integration |
| 03:11.49 | Twingy | k |
| 03:11.52 | jrobe1 | wow, late night |
| 03:11.52 | Twingy | now |
| 03:11.59 | Twingy | replace phong with path,16 |
| 03:12.02 | Twingy | and |
| 03:12.09 | Twingy | 640,480,40,40 with 640,480,10,10 |
| 03:12.10 | jrobe1 | looks like one of my scout hmmwv's |
| 03:12.15 | jrobe1 | k |
| 03:12.41 | Twingy | should get a VERY grainy path traced image |
| 03:13.05 | Twingy | 256 might be acceptable |
| 03:13.48 | jrobe1 | k, taking a bit longer to process |
| 03:13.51 | Twingy | yep :) |
| 03:14.10 | jrobe1 | about 2 tenths of a percent per second on this box |
| 03:14.18 | Twingy | 117 million rays |
| 03:14.34 | jrobe1 | that's a bunch |
| 03:14.37 | Twingy | yah |
| 03:14.42 | Twingy | probly more like 90 million |
| 03:14.47 | Twingy | but in that neighborhood |
| 03:15.23 | jrobe1 | gotchya |
| 03:18.19 | Twingy | done? |
| 03:20.56 | jrobe1 | 80% |
| 03:21.39 | Twingy | k |
| 03:21.48 | Twingy | betchya wish you had a cluster now ;) |
| 03:24.18 | jrobe1 | heh, for sure |
| 03:24.32 | jrobe1 | this is pretty grainy, but the tail lights are on |
| 03:25.08 | Twingy | yah |
| 03:25.26 | Twingy | not if you do that at like 256 |
| 03:25.35 | Twingy | you'll get something more respectable |
| 03:25.41 | Twingy | s/not/now |
| 03:25.43 | jrobe1 | k, cool, I'll try it |
| 03:25.53 | Twingy | got any other *nix machines there? |
| 03:25.54 | Twingy | like www? |
| 03:26.32 | jrobe1 | I could probably use that one--it's just the server in New York or Dallas |
| 03:26.40 | jrobe1 | I never remember where the primary is |
| 03:27.20 | jrobe1 | I'm not supposed to leave intense server processes running since it is being shared by several others |
| 03:27.26 | Twingy | ahh |
| 03:27.36 | Twingy | hrm |
| 03:27.40 | Twingy | could expose the port on the firewall |
| 03:27.46 | Twingy | and I could have a box here connect to it, hehe |
| 03:28.40 | jrobe1 | heh, maybe--I've failed to get even a dns visible to the outside from my home before--I get things through my home firewalls, but earthlink blocks everything after that |
| 03:28.56 | Twingy | ahh |
| 03:29.02 | Twingy | oh well |
| 03:29.08 | Twingy | just goto walmart and buy a cluster of linares, hehe |
| 03:29.17 | jrobe1 | I'm replacing myself as network god at work, so he would probably see it if I opened up the cluster at work |
| 03:29.19 | jrobe1 | yeah |
| 03:29.56 | jrobe1 | I've got four computers here at home I could get up and running |
| 03:30.10 | jrobe1 | I'll play around w/ it over the weekend |
| 03:30.11 | Twingy | ah |
| 03:30.20 | Twingy | how's the progress on the 256? |
| 03:30.43 | jrobe1 | I need to complete ms stuff by friday |
| 03:30.59 | Twingy | ah |
| 03:31.15 | jrobe1 | k, just started |
| 03:31.37 | jrobe1 | about 8 seconds a tenth of a percent |
| 03:32.12 | Twingy | hehe |
| 03:32.20 | Twingy | ker chunk ker chunk |
| 03:32.29 | jrobe1 | heh, yeah, go Dell go |
| 03:32.41 | Twingy | this one will be 1/4 as grainy |
| 03:32.47 | jrobe1 | k |
| 03:32.50 | Twingy | quaduple the paths to cut noise in half |
| 03:32.55 | jrobe1 | I'll try a bigger one over night |
| 03:32.56 | Twingy | *quadruple |
| 03:33.00 | Twingy | k |
| 03:33.01 | jrobe1 | got it |
| 03:36.22 | Twingy | the noise is same result of using a camera with a super high shutter speed |
| 03:36.33 | Twingy | the longer the exposure etc... |
| 03:38.07 | jrobe1 | ic |
| 03:41.51 | *** join/#brlcad prasad (~4610162e@bz.bzflag.bz) |
| 03:43.06 | prasad | that was a funny skit |
| 03:43.27 | Twingy | batteries for the rocket came yesterday |
| 03:43.52 | Twingy | just need to get crap mounted inside now |
| 03:44.22 | prasad | nice |
| 03:44.35 | Twingy | I need to weigh in all the parts |
| 03:44.39 | Twingy | eventually |
| 03:44.52 | Twingy | make sure I'm under the 3kg mark |
| 03:45.02 | prasad | why's that? |
| 03:45.06 | Twingy | otherwise I'll never reach sean's house |
| 03:45.08 | Twingy | err I mean uhh |
| 03:45.13 | prasad | *rimshot* |
| 03:45.40 | Twingy | hrm |
| 03:45.48 | Twingy | almost done adding python interprester to interactive raytracer |
| 03:45.57 | Twingy | still a bunch of little doodads left though |
| 03:46.08 | prasad | u need to add a Mode -1 |
| 03:46.12 | prasad | for desktops |
| 03:46.17 | Twingy | no no no |
| 03:46.19 | Twingy | Mode 13 |
| 03:46.23 | Twingy | for HIGH color |
| 03:46.24 | prasad | that renders at 10x10 |
| 03:46.26 | Twingy | muhaha |
| 03:46.32 | Twingy | heh |
| 03:46.33 | Twingy | come on |
| 03:46.36 | Twingy | you could atleast.. |
| 03:46.38 | Twingy | 16x16 |
| 03:46.47 | prasad | oh right |
| 03:46.58 | Twingy | and probly 24x24 on your opteron box |
| 03:47.04 | prasad | render it on a GLtex and blow it up to 2048 |
| 03:47.07 | prasad | genious |
| 03:47.08 | Twingy | yah |
| 03:47.12 | Twingy | genius? :) |
| 03:47.27 | prasad | argh |
| 03:48.28 | prasad | so im creating this game that needs 325GB just for the terrain |
| 03:48.34 | prasad | <- leet |
| 03:48.51 | Twingy | erm |
| 03:49.04 | Twingy | that's why I don't wanna start my FEM game yet |
| 03:49.11 | Twingy | just not enough memory |
| 03:49.17 | Twingy | but if you write the game |
| 03:49.22 | Twingy | in 10 years you'll be able to run it |
| 03:49.35 | prasad | it'll take 10 years at this rate |
| 03:49.39 | prasad | ??? |
| 03:49.40 | prasad | profit |
| 03:49.41 | Twingy | there you go |
| 03:49.59 | prasad | oi! |
| 03:50.10 | Twingy | http://www-ec.njit.edu/~jls2363/underpants.jpg |
| 03:50.53 | prasad | what is that? south park? |
| 03:50.57 | Twingy | yes |
| 03:52.15 | prasad | hey who's the main admin for shiva? |
| 03:52.18 | prasad | erik? |
| 03:54.29 | Twingy | me |
| 03:55.12 | prasad | k |
| 03:55.18 | prasad | be bugging u soon |
| 03:55.25 | Twingy | oh yea |
| 03:55.27 | Twingy | erik is the admin |
| 03:55.39 | prasad | need to spawn a jini service |
| 03:55.45 | prasad | 'diagnostics' |
| 03:55.57 | Twingy | brb, hotdogs |
| 03:56.01 | prasad | to notify the fire dept if the cluster starts smoking |
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| 04:14.40 | Twingy | hrm |
| 04:14.44 | Twingy | I'm out of propane |
| 04:25.38 | brlcad | jrobey: NickServ manages nicks -- you can register your irc aliases with it, and then ghost any that go stale /msg nickserv help |
| 04:30.19 | Twingy | hrm |
| 04:30.30 | Twingy | my python interface is going to be less command driven |
| 04:30.42 | Twingy | it'll consist of a content editor with console |
| 04:31.01 | Twingy | you write your 1 to n lines of python, hit ctrl+p and it processes it and spits output to console |
| 04:31.11 | Twingy | same way blender works |
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| 04:31.48 | brlcad | jrobey: NickServ manages nicks -- you can register your irc aliases with it, and then ghost any that go stale /msg nickserv |
| 04:31.52 | brlcad | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:32.08 | prasad | hey sean's not asleep |
| 04:32.22 | Twingy | sleep is for the weak |
| 04:33.10 | prasad | ill have to write a jni wrapper to adrt |
| 04:33.23 | Twingy | o.O |
| 04:33.45 | brlcad | that could be interesting |
| 04:34.10 | prasad | then we have a reason to take over msrc under the guise of muves3 |
| 04:35.01 | Twingy | heh |
| 04:35.10 | Twingy | I think you'll need msrc |
| 04:35.14 | Twingy | for the database transactions |
| 04:35.42 | Twingy | and a pocket calculator for the raytracer |
| 04:35.47 | Twingy | with it 92% idle |
| 04:38.36 | prasad | g3d engine can only reach 50fps at 100K tri/sec on a ti4600 |
| 04:38.44 | prasad | bleh |
| 04:38.52 | Twingy | really? |
| 04:38.57 | Twingy | how about 1 mil? |
| 04:39.08 | prasad | im just running the demo |
| 04:39.11 | Twingy | ah |
| 04:39.17 | Twingy | that's not all that great |
| 04:39.22 | prasad | sure isnt |
| 04:39.31 | Twingy | wonder how it'd fair on 12.8 mil |
| 04:39.34 | prasad | not enough to support my 325GB memory footprint |
| 04:45.14 | jrobey | Twingy: 48% complete |
| 04:45.25 | Twingy | heh |
| 04:45.30 | Twingy | overclock that thing |
| 04:45.35 | Twingy | to like... 50 gigglehurts |
| 04:45.39 | jrobey | lol |
| 04:46.20 | jrobey | heh, at least I don't have m$ anymore and can multitask |
| 04:46.37 | Twingy | hehe |
| 04:56.22 | CIA-8 | BRL-CAD: 03twingy * 10brlcad/src/adrt/ (7 files in 4 dirs): |
| 04:56.23 | CIA-8 | BRL-CAD: Python interpretor working now. Command interface has become a blender style |
| 04:56.23 | CIA-8 | BRL-CAD: editing interface with ctrl+p to process and ctrl+l to clear buffers. Rise image |
| 04:56.23 | CIA-8 | BRL-CAD: output re-enabled. |
| 05:06.36 | prasad | hmm |
| 05:06.51 | prasad | irrlicht is a nifty little engine |
| 05:11.31 | Twingy | aha |
| 05:14.12 | prasad | ? |
| 05:15.26 | Twingy | alice in chains |
| 05:18.44 | brlcad | ARL in Chaos |
| 05:19.20 | Twingy | heh |
| 05:19.28 | Twingy | |
| 05:19.38 | Twingy | adrt.camera.set.position(0,0,0) |
| 05:19.49 | Twingy | hrm |
| 05:22.38 | Twingy | Advanced Computer Sausages Team |
| 05:22.49 | CIA-8 | BRL-CAD: 03twingy * 10brlcad/src/adrt/ (igvt/master/igvt_python.c libutil/display.c): memory bug fix. |
| 05:23.03 | prasad | none of these engines can do outdoor scenes well enough |
| 05:23.10 | prasad | i dont want to write my own engine dammit |
| 05:23.19 | Twingy | writing your own engine is over-rated |
| 05:24.19 | Twingy | payday |
| 05:24.19 | prasad | (dyslexia) soo its easy? |
| 05:24.30 | Twingy | time consuming |
| 05:24.42 | Twingy | very time consuming |
| 05:24.44 | prasad | that's what i meant |
| 05:25.41 | prasad | same here |
| 05:26.20 | prasad | but i dont think there's a 'free' engine out there that supports a 1 billion square tile terrain |
| 05:26.38 | prasad | or at least render it with some optimizations |
| 05:26.43 | Twingy | I don't think there's a pc out there that can render 1 billion square tile terrain |
| 05:27.05 | Twingy | at any interactive rate anyhow |
| 05:27.06 | prasad | ;) |
| 05:27.21 | Twingy | I think you should raytrace it |
| 05:27.36 | prasad | keep the zoom level at a decent level |
| 05:27.43 | prasad | u could do it easily with a quadtree |
| 05:28.47 | Twingy | 3 more months before I can take another week off :( |
| 05:29.05 | prasad | u on credit hrs? |
| 05:29.15 | Twingy | hrm? |
| 05:29.33 | prasad | know what it is? |
| 05:29.56 | Twingy | that where you borrow? |
| 05:30.03 | brlcad | 1 billian square? like 1billion x 1billion? |
| 05:30.18 | Twingy | yes |
| 05:30.22 | Twingy | err |
| 05:30.24 | prasad | no |
| 05:30.30 | Twingy | no |
| 05:30.42 | Twingy | sqrt(1 billion) x sqrt(1 billion) |
| 05:30.44 | prasad | sqrt(billion) x sqrt(billon) |
| 05:30.49 | prasad | argh |
| 05:30.53 | Twingy | beetcha to it |
| 05:30.54 | brlcad | that's about 32k x 32k |
| 05:31.03 | brlcad | lots of engines can do that |
| 05:31.13 | prasad | free ones? |
| 05:31.27 | brlcad | heck, mged can do that |
| 05:31.31 | Twingy | heh |
| 05:31.33 | Twingy | I doubt it |
| 05:31.46 | Twingy | unless you have like 8GB of ram |
| 05:32.13 | Twingy | kind of funny how it can't work with my 1 million polygon dragon :P |
| 05:32.14 | brlcad | it is an in-core algorithm, but it is fairly well-optimized |
| 05:33.46 | prasad | i can support a 5k x 5k tile terrain with 500MB at 16bytes per tile |
| 05:33.47 | brlcad | limited to short-int height variations, so 32k x 32k would use 2GB just for the grided data values |
| 05:35.21 | prasad | but if there's a good caching system, with intelligent loading on a low priority thread, i guess 32kx32k would work |
| 05:35.35 | prasad | now if u zoom out to view the whole map |
| 05:35.38 | prasad | hmm |
| 05:35.41 | brlcad | it's mmap'd, so as good as the system VM |
| 05:36.44 | prasad | i could probably do some LOD stuff |
| 05:36.59 | prasad | if the backend is a modified quadtree |
| 05:37.11 | brlcad | http://www.terrainengine.com/ |
| 05:38.13 | prasad | ohh nice |
| 05:40.06 | prasad | heh i somehow forgot look at osg |
| 05:40.58 | brlcad | this looks interesting too .. http://www.cc.gatech.edu/~lindstro/software/soar/ |
| 05:50.51 | brlcad | cool |
| 05:52.30 | prasad | now to generate a 32kx32k bmp :) |
| 05:52.53 | brlcad | I can try that :) |
| 05:53.21 | brlcad | only using 20M resident with the puget |
| 05:53.45 | brlcad | full view |
| 05:53.47 | prasad | 32kx32k would be 1gb for 8bit grey scale |
| 05:53.53 | prasad | oh thats cool |
| 05:53.58 | prasad | can u zoom out? |
| 05:54.37 | prasad | well.. puget sound is 1k x 1k |
| 05:56.56 | brlcad | http://ftp.brlcad.org/tmp/puget01.png |
| 05:57.00 | brlcad | yeah, pretty small |
| 05:57.41 | brlcad | the .g is only 2MB, neat |
| 06:00.12 | brlcad | oh, now we're talking.. a 16k x 16k elevation map of the puget sound at georgia tech |
| 06:01.00 | brlcad | ooh, with a 300MB png texture map that I can add as a shader.. |
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| 12:43.16 | learner | heya narnia.. been a while |
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| 14:56.55 | reed | hello all |
| 15:01.31 | brlcad | hello |
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| 15:36.20 | narnia | learner, i am still attempting to print the 30,000+ pages of legal documents. |
| 15:36.57 | narnia | learner, basiccally tied up with the 8+yr legal nightmare. |
| 15:38.14 | narnia | learner, my network has been under attack for the past couple days so i have had not much of a life. |
| 17:35.39 | CIA-8 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/misc/Makefile.defs: initial Makefile.defs for providing a global build options to all the Makefile.am files. presently includes a 'fast' target that will link targets in parallel when the Makefile.am includes a FAST_OBJECTS directive |
| 17:37.35 | CIA-8 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/misc/Makefile.am: add Makefile.defs to the dist, use the new pro/e BUILD_PROE define |
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| 20:01.26 | CIA-8 | BRL-CAD: 03twingy * 10brlcad/src/adrt/ (igvt/master/igvt_python.c libutil/display.c): Several minor additional improvements to the editor window, 80% done. |
| 21:16.01 | archivist | skeletons rattle |
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| 21:51.58 | CIA-8 | BRL-CAD: 03twingy * 10brlcad/src/adrt/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 21:51.58 | CIA-8 | BRL-CAD: Camera position, azimuth, and elevation accessible from python now. |
| 21:51.58 | CIA-8 | BRL-CAD: Added cut and paste to editor, 85% done. |
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| 22:41.48 | CIA-8 | BRL-CAD: 03twingy * 10brlcad/src/adrt/ (igvt/master/master.c librender/grid.c): adjusting parameters. |
| 22:46.56 | brlcad | otherwise this will be about 100 e-mails |
| 23:03.12 | Twingy_ | I don't get emails |
| 23:03.16 | Twingy_ | so go right ahead |
| 23:10.56 | brlcad | that can be easily "fixed" |
| 23:11.06 | brlcad | "we fixed the glitch" |
| 23:11.43 | Twingy_ | *shrug* I'll just remove myself if you do it :) |
| 23:12.02 | CIA-8 | BRL-CAD: 03twingy * 10brlcad/src/adrt/igvt/observer/ (observer.c splash.h): New splash screen, and renaming IGVT to Interactive Shot Selection Tool (ISST) in progress,,, |
| 23:13.05 | brlcad | heh, not if I set it as a fixed archive copy e-mail instead of a subscribed user :) |
| 23:18.55 | archivist_ | oo same error as last night |
| 23:18.58 | archivist_ | configure: error: source directory already configured; run "make distclean" there first |
| 23:18.58 | archivist_ | ./build: line 3: ./brlcad/make: No such file or directory |
| 23:19.30 | archivist_ | but did run make distclean |
| 23:20.31 | brlcad | how in the world are you getting it into an inconsistent state?? |
| 23:20.40 | brlcad | you have yet to even build |
| 23:21.01 | brlcad | you can no longer make after running make distclean |
| 23:21.12 | brlcad | you have to start over after a distclean |
| 23:21.17 | brlcad | ./autogen.sh && ./configure ... |
| 23:21.32 | archivist_ | yes |
| 23:21.47 | archivist_ | in a shell script |
| 23:22.05 | brlcad | huh? |
| 23:22.14 | brlcad | you're writing a build script of some sort? |
| 23:22.26 | brlcad | it should be a simple 3-liner at worst |
| 23:22.33 | archivist_ | 3 lines |
| 23:23.43 | archivist_ | i wonder if getting anon can ecen work for a large system |
| 23:26.50 | brlcad | what do you mean? |
| 23:28.25 | archivist_ | allyou are fetching from logged in cvs i am anon with said delay and whatever inconsistencies |
| 23:28.56 | brlcad | what's your sf.net id? |
| 23:29.55 | archivist_ | archivist |
| 23:30.50 | archivist_ | i also wonder if ther is some setup not covered yet |
| 23:30.55 | brlcad | I can grant non-anon cvs, though only under the understanding that you'll follow all the rules and guidelines listed in the HACKING and COPYING files |
| 23:32.17 | brlcad | you're on Debian, right? |
| 23:32.31 | archivist_ | i agee |
| 23:32.34 | archivist_ | yes |
| 23:32.43 | archivist_ | 3.10a |
| 23:32.54 | brlcad | agee? |
| 23:33.19 | brlcad | age? |
| 23:33.37 | archivist_ | i think i saw that d rossberg is also on the same debian |
| 23:33.45 | archivist_ | agree |
| 23:33.51 | brlcad | ahh, heh |
| 23:34.20 | archivist_ | did he do anything to get it going? |
| 23:34.44 | brlcad | I've built it on a couple different debian boxes several times |
| 23:34.50 | archivist_ | ive got vnc working also now |
| 23:35.10 | brlcad | usually involved ensuring that the gnu autotools are all installed correctly |
| 23:35.19 | brlcad | but after that, it works |
| 23:36.36 | brlcad | rossberg didn't mention anything special |
| 23:36.54 | brlcad | okay, you're added to the project now with access |
| 23:37.05 | brlcad | "don't break anything" ;) |
| 23:37.14 | brlcad | you'll have to check out again |
| 23:37.50 | archivist_ | ok thanks i wont checkout tonight as was about to go home 12:40 |
| 23:38.35 | brlcad | save the build steps to a log file so I can see exactly what happened in order in case it still doesn't work |
| 23:38.46 | brlcad | i.e. run the build as follows: |
| 23:39.00 | brlcad | ./autogen.sh > autogen.log 2>&1 |
| 23:39.15 | brlcad | ./configure --enable-optimized > configure.log 2>&1 |
| 23:39.28 | brlcad | make > build.log 2>&1 |
| 23:39.47 | brlcad | if anything fails, can send me *.log (which includes a config.log file) |
| 23:40.56 | archivist | ok thanks |
