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| 00:34.48 | hippie23 | hello |
| 01:14.10 | learner | hello |
| 01:20.40 | hippie23 | hi |
| 01:20.57 | hippie23 | I just downloaded brl-cad |
| 01:20.57 | learner | how goes it? |
| 01:21.01 | hippie23 | ok |
| 01:21.09 | learner | great |
| 01:21.54 | hippie23 | I'll brb |
| 01:22.36 | hippie23 | I gotta change to root user so I can extract the files to the right directory |
| 01:22.57 | hippie23 | unless you know the command line sequence? |
| 01:23.06 | learner | you have sudo? |
| 01:23.24 | hippie23 | im new to linux |
| 01:23.28 | learner | ahh |
| 01:23.36 | learner | you've already unpacked the tarfile? |
| 01:23.48 | hippie23 | no, I havent |
| 01:23.58 | learner | go ahead and unpack it |
| 01:24.06 | learner | tar zxvf brlcadwhatever.tar.gz |
| 01:24.30 | hippie23 | ok |
| 01:24.43 | learner | you should have a usr directory now? |
| 01:24.50 | learner | ls usr |
| 01:24.51 | hippie23 | yes I do |
| 01:25.10 | learner | let's see if you have sudo (you should) |
| 01:25.13 | learner | sudo ls |
| 01:25.24 | learner | should prompt you for your password |
| 01:25.40 | learner | (yours not root's) |
| 01:26.08 | learner | it'll just run ls as root |
| 01:26.15 | learner | to make sure it works |
| 01:26.18 | hippie23 | oh.. I have a root termanal open |
| 01:26.31 | learner | that works too |
| 01:26.36 | learner | you could have also just run 'su' |
| 01:26.37 | hippie23 | its extracting |
| 01:26.55 | hippie23 | it just finished |
| 01:27.15 | learner | where did you extract it to? |
| 01:27.49 | hippie23 | /usr/brlcad |
| 01:27.56 | learner | great :) |
| 01:29.16 | Twingy | hrm |
| 01:29.28 | Twingy | Whatchyou lookin at foo |
| 01:29.30 | learner | the next/last step will be to add /usr/brlcad/bin to your PATH |
| 01:36.10 | learner | hippie23, you got it going yet? |
| 01:38.01 | hippie23 | no... it installed to the wrong directory... GRRRRRR!!!! |
| 01:38.25 | learner | you can just move the directory to where it needs to be |
| 01:38.31 | learner | unpack it anywhere |
| 01:38.41 | learner | and as root, mv usr/brlcad /usr/. |
| 01:40.14 | hippie23 | ok... now its where it should be |
| 01:40.52 | learner | for a quick test: export PATH=/usr/brlcad/bin:$PATH |
| 01:40.53 | learner | rt |
| 01:41.10 | learner | if it's all good, rt will output a usage message including version information |
| 01:41.33 | learner | at which point you could fire up the modeler, mged and get started on the tutorials ;) |
| 01:43.13 | hippie23 | rt: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3' not found (required by rt) |
| 01:43.14 | hippie23 | rt: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3' not found (required by /usr/brlcad/lib/librt.so.19) |
| 01:43.14 | hippie23 | rt: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3' not found (required by /usr/brlcad/lib/libfb.so.19) |
| 01:43.14 | hippie23 | rt: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3' not found (required by /usr/brlcad/lib/libpkg.so.19) |
| 01:43.14 | hippie23 | rt: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3' not found (required by /usr/brlcad/lib/libbu.so.19) |
| 01:43.14 | hippie23 | rt: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3' not found (required by /usr/brlcad/lib/libtcl8.4.so.19) |
| 01:43.25 | hippie23 | nice error message |
| 01:43.42 | learner | hmm |
| 01:43.48 | learner | what OS is this? |
| 01:43.54 | hippie23 | rh 7.3 |
| 01:44.02 | learner | OH.. heh |
| 01:44.08 | learner | yeah, that won't fly |
| 01:44.23 | hippie23 | CRAP! |
| 01:44.28 | learner | hope is not lost |
| 01:44.33 | learner | you can compile it yourself easily enough |
| 01:44.40 | learner | I can give you the steps if you like |
| 01:44.45 | hippie23 | ok |
| 01:44.59 | learner | type these: |
| 01:45.20 | learner | cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.sf.net:/cvsroot/brlcad login |
| 01:45.33 | learner | [ press enter for password, there is no password ] |
| 01:45.41 | learner | cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.sf.net:/cvsroot/brlcad checkout -P brlcad |
| 01:45.48 | learner | do this from your home directory |
| 01:45.56 | learner | cd brlcad |
| 01:46.09 | learner | ./autogen.sh |
| 01:46.18 | learner | ./configure --enable-optimized |
| 01:46.18 | hippie23 | bash: cvs: command not found |
| 01:46.26 | learner | ah |
| 01:46.45 | Twingy | hey sean, ever thought about making optimized the default and non optimized a flag? |
| 01:46.49 | learner | you'll have to download the latest source tarball then from http://sf.net/projects/brlcad/ |
| 01:47.53 | learner | Twingy, yeah, i have.. :) |
| 01:48.02 | Twingy | let's do it :) |
| 01:48.16 | learner | it's not on purpose actually |
| 01:48.25 | learner | faster more debuggable builds |
| 01:48.28 | Twingy | I'm still pondering how to fold in the SSE stuff to adrt |
| 01:48.32 | Twingy | -msse |
| 01:48.39 | Twingy | whether I want to keep it cross-platform like |
| 01:48.47 | Twingy | I'm leaning towards yes |
| 01:49.19 | Twingy | cause like |
| 01:49.23 | Twingy | altivec will dissapear in 2 years |
| 01:49.48 | learner | 7 years through maintenance, but only 4 or so for us |
| 01:50.00 | Twingy | I can support Mac, Linux, FreeBSD, and Windows if I made SSE a requirement |
| 01:51.47 | Twingy | everyone that's doing high performance ray-tracing these days is doing it on x86, so I might just keep an old version around for support legacy machines like sgi and stuff that may want to use it |
| 01:51.54 | learner | why not just make alternate sse routines and have it pick at configure-time |
| 01:52.09 | Twingy | well I was thinking about doing that anyway |
| 01:52.14 | Twingy | but then I have 2 codebases to maintain |
| 01:52.21 | learner | or as you put it, make the non-sse the "alternate" |
| 01:52.23 | Twingy | it's under 1k lines so it's not too terrible |
| 01:52.27 | Twingy | but still more work |
| 01:52.37 | Twingy | I'm thinking sine the API is solid |
| 01:52.41 | learner | exactly, that's not too much to maintain, and the core is less likely to change I'd imagine |
| 01:52.42 | Twingy | I'll just keep an old legacy version around |
| 01:52.43 | hippie23 | I hpe brl-cad doesnt run slow |
| 01:52.50 | hippie23 | my computer is old |
| 01:52.56 | Twingy | define old? |
| 01:53.29 | hippie23 | celeron 667, 20GB HDD, 320MB ram, i810 crap video |
| 01:53.31 | learner | hippie23, depends completely on what you ask it to do -- it's run on very very old/slow machines over the decades |
| 01:53.47 | learner | ahh, that's not too old :) |
| 01:53.57 | Twingy | that'll take you ~40 minutes to compile |
| 01:53.58 | learner | i mean I wouldn't be happy if I were you, but it's not horrible :) |
| 01:54.28 | Twingy | hrm |
| 01:54.33 | Twingy | tommorrow I'm gonna put my house up for sale |
| 01:54.40 | hippie23 | well its all I got, other than an old p133, 486dx4-100, and an 8088 |
| 01:54.41 | learner | 25 if he doesn't optimize the build maybe :) |
| 01:54.54 | Twingy | he's gonna need every optimization he can get |
| 01:55.06 | learner | yeah |
| 01:55.08 | Twingy | are the distros getting installed on the sgi's at work the optimized ones? |
| 01:55.19 | learner | yes |
| 01:55.22 | Twingy | cool |
| 01:55.31 | learner | at least when I make them |
| 01:55.42 | learner | which is often not the case.. |
| 01:55.44 | Twingy | people like keith trying to do stryker level stuff on a 1GB 200mhz sgi o2 is painful |
| 01:56.04 | Twingy | those guys need to speak up more |
| 01:56.21 | Twingy | it's so sad seeing them with 1.4ghz P4's and 200 mhz O2's |
| 01:57.28 | hippie23 | ima need a new HDD soon |
| 01:57.35 | hippie23 | this thing is on its way out |
| 01:58.07 | Twingy | heh |
| 01:58.09 | hippie23 | just like my monitor blinks out sometimes |
| 01:58.11 | Twingy | I'm using 11GB at home |
| 01:58.24 | Twingy | mostly just source code and old projects |
| 01:58.38 | Twingy | makes it kinda easy not having much digital media to store |
| 01:58.50 | learner | hippie23, add --disable-runtime-debug to the configure options too when you get to it |
| 01:59.02 | learner | that'll give you a small performance boost |
| 01:59.51 | hippie23 | yah.. if my HDD doesnt crack before then |
| 02:00.52 | learner | there is no such lib to my knowledge |
| 02:00.59 | learner | ~ww |
| 02:00.59 | ibot | Thanks for wasting our time yet again by telling us "ww" |
| 02:01.13 | hippie23 | ww? |
| 02:02.19 | hippie23 | whats ww? |
| 02:02.27 | learner | wrong window :) |
| 02:02.31 | hippie23 | oh |
| 02:03.35 | hippie23 | do you know how to get a smaller firefox icon, the damn thing is HUGE! |
| 02:05.54 | learner | heh, can't help you there :) |
| 02:06.08 | learner | it's probably tiny on a big display ;) |
| 02:06.32 | hippie23 | im running 1024x768 |
| 02:06.51 | hippie23 | its so big it makes all my other icons look tiny |
| 02:07.08 | learner | ahh |
| 02:08.11 | hippie23 | in winblows its the same size as all the other icons, why did they make it so big in linux? |
| 02:10.55 | learner | probably "because they could" |
| 02:12.51 | Twingy | all your icon are belong to me |
| 02:28.55 | hippie23 | hahaha |
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| 03:42.43 | silvap_ | ~hoho |
| 03:42.44 | ibot | Ho Ho! Merry Christmas! |
| 03:42.56 | silvap_ | ~who is your creator? |
| 03:42.57 | ibot | silvap_: what are you talking about? |
| 03:43.12 | silvap_ | cute |
| 03:43.21 | learner | ~ibot |
| 03:43.21 | ibot | it has been said that ibot is a blootbot written in perl run by TimRiker on his server. logs on http://ibot.rikers.org/<chan>/ , ibot, jbot, apt are all the same process. It uses sqlite, but mysql or other SQL storage is also supported. |
| 03:43.43 | silvap_ | ~what is the square root of pi? |
| 03:43.45 | ibot | I think you lost me on that one, silvap_ |
| 03:43.53 | silvap_ | useless |
| 03:45.01 | learner | ~pi |
| 03:45.01 | ibot | somebody said pi was 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286208998628034825342117067982148086513282306647093844609550582231725359408128481117450284102701938521105559644622948954930381964428810975665933446128475648233786783165271201909145648566923460348610454326648213393607260249141273724587006606315588174881520920962829254091 |
| 03:45.15 | learner | ~2 + 2 |
| 03:45.15 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, 2 + 2 is 5 for sufficiently large values of 2 |
| 03:45.41 | learner | :) |
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