| 01:06.34 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03johnranderson * 10brlcad/src/libbn/vectfont.c: |
| 01:06.34 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: Added new symbols: plus/minus, degree, and centerline. |
| 01:06.34 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: Corrected tp_setup() method (it was over-writing the symbols) |
| 01:11.33 | pra5ad | whoa |
| 01:14.06 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03johnranderson * 10brlcad/src/librt/nmg_misc.c: |
| 01:14.06 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: Added a new method: nmg_vlist_to_eu( struct bu_list *vlist, struct shell *s ) |
| 01:14.06 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: creates wire edges in the specified shell. The edges correspond to line segments in the |
| 01:14.06 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: list of "bn_vlist" structures passed in. Used in "dxf-g" to handle tet strings. |
| 01:15.53 | pra5ad | hey sean |
| 01:16.13 | pra5ad | configure isn't setting some vars in config.h correctly |
| 01:16.25 | brlcad | such as? |
| 01:16.26 | pra5ad | do i need something extra in .ac |
| 01:16.31 | pra5ad | PACKAGE and VERSION |
| 01:16.35 | pra5ad | even tho AC_INIT has em |
| 01:17.40 | brlcad | huh? |
| 01:17.59 | brlcad | #define PACKAGE "brlcad" |
| 01:18.23 | brlcad | #define VERSION "7.6.1" |
| 01:18.26 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03johnranderson * 10brlcad/src/conv/dxf-g.c: |
| 01:18.26 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: Added rudimentary text handling. Uses vector font in libbn (vectfont.c) and |
| 01:18.26 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: nmg_vlist_to_eu() to create wire edges to represent the text. |
| 01:18.33 | pra5ad | AC_INIT(blah, 1.0) <<-- configure.ac |
| 01:18.49 | pra5ad | #define PACKAGE "Package" <<- config.h |
| 01:18.59 | pra5ad | shouldn't configure fill it in correctly? |
| 01:19.07 | pra5ad | since it's creating config.h from config.h.in |
| 01:19.33 | brlcad | AC_INIT doesn't create config.h |
| 01:20.07 | pra5ad | soo i need to AC_SUBST(PACKAGE) ? |
| 01:20.36 | brlcad | no |
| 01:20.38 | brlcad | AM_CONFIG_HEADER |
| 01:21.03 | pra5ad | config.status: creating src/memory/Makefile |
| 01:21.03 | pra5ad | config.status: creating include/config/config.h |
| 01:21.03 | pra5ad | config.status: include/config/config.h is unchanged |
| 01:21.03 | pra5ad | config.status: executing depfiles commands |
| 01:21.28 | pra5ad | i have AC_CONFIG_HEADER |
| 01:21.42 | pra5ad | docs said AM_CONFIG_HEADER is obsolete |
| 01:22.54 | brlcad | meh, those idiots make just about everything obsolete every other version |
| 01:23.19 | brlcad | ac_config_header([config.h]), yes? |
| 01:23.31 | pra5ad | upper case, yes |
| 01:23.52 | pra5ad | i run autoheader and ./configure |
| 01:24.00 | pra5ad | config.h doesnt have the right subst |
| 01:24.01 | brlcad | er, include/config.h |
| 01:24.09 | pra5ad | er, yes |
| 01:24.11 | pra5ad | :) |
| 01:24.30 | pra5ad | AC_CONFIG_HEADER([include/config/config.h]) |
| 01:24.52 | brlcad | kill your autom4te cache and run autoreconf (or snarf autogen.sh) |
| 01:25.54 | pra5ad | #define PACKAGE "package" |
| 01:26.32 | brlcad | try the long version of ac_init |
| 01:27.01 | brlcad | ac_init(long, version, url, shortname) |
| 01:31.11 | pra5ad | hehe think i found the prob |
| 01:31.30 | pra5ad | was doing ac_init([var],...) |
| 01:33.39 | pra5ad | hrm nm |
| 01:33.51 | pra5ad | thought it was just subst with 'var' |
| 01:35.44 | pra5ad | grr |
| 01:36.19 | pra5ad | ./* Name of package */ |
| 01:36.19 | pra5ad | #define PACKAGE "PACKAGE_SHORT_NAME" |
| 01:36.39 | pra5ad | AC_INIT(PACKAGE_LONG_NAME,VERSION,PACKAGE_URL,PACKAGE_SHORT_NAME) |
| 01:37.56 | brlcad | yep |
| 01:38.12 | pra5ad | what am i doing wrong |
| 01:38.40 | brlcad | i'm not sure what you think you're doing wrong |
| 01:39.00 | pra5ad | i define PACKAGE_SHORT_NAME="blah blah" |
| 01:39.08 | brlcad | package is the short name |
| 01:39.11 | Twingy | use scons :) |
| 01:39.35 | brlcad | package_name is the long name |
| 01:39.47 | pra5ad | shouldnt that line in config.h be: #define PACKAGE "blah blah" |
| 01:39.48 | pra5ad | ??? |
| 01:40.03 | brlcad | short_name shouldn't ahve spaces |
| 01:40.18 | brlcad | i dont' think eitehr is supposed to have spaces |
| 01:41.20 | pra5ad | i thought PACKAGE would be #defined to be a string, so code can use it in cout, etc |
| 01:41.38 | brlcad | it is a string |
| 01:41.51 | pra5ad | right.. |
| 01:41.58 | pra5ad | so why isnt configure subst it correctly |
| 01:41.59 | brlcad | that doesn't mean it can have spaces .. that's up to autoconf |
| 01:42.10 | pra5ad | ok fine, look at this |
| 01:42.38 | pra5ad | PACKAGE_SHORT_NAME="yats" |
| 01:42.42 | pra5ad | that's what is in my code |
| 01:42.56 | pra5ad | "blah blah" was my example.. |
| 01:43.18 | brlcad | pra5ad: what's your exact AC_INIT line? |
| 01:43.30 | pra5ad | AC_INIT(PACKAGE_LONG_NAME,VERSION,PACKAGE_URL,PACKAGE_SHORT_NAME) |
| 01:43.37 | brlcad | heh, that's no good |
| 01:43.46 | brlcad | put the values |
| 01:43.55 | pra5ad | why not? |
| 01:44.01 | brlcad | even if you were trying to use variables, that's wrong |
| 01:44.09 | pra5ad | how would i use a var |
| 01:44.29 | brlcad | well, for AC_INIT in particular, you can't use shell variables |
| 01:44.37 | brlcad | you'd have to use an m4 variable |
| 01:44.42 | brlcad | s/variable/define/ |
| 01:45.17 | pra5ad | argh |
| 01:45.17 | pra5ad | ok |
| 01:45.25 | brlcad | but if it was allowed, it'd be something like AC_INIT([$PACKAGE_LONG_NAME], ... |
| 01:47.32 | brlcad | but it's not, so don't bother ;) |
| 01:48.10 | brlcad | ac_init must occur before variables, otherwise they're not technically set when AC_INIT is processed |
| 01:48.26 | pra5ad | righto |
| 01:48.28 | pra5ad | works now |
| 01:48.31 | brlcad | m4 macros aren't like c preprocessor macros |
| 01:48.33 | pra5ad | tanx |
| 01:48.36 | brlcad | it's not substitution |
| 01:51.10 | pra5ad | anyone know of a good SDL replacement? |
| 01:51.33 | brlcad | what aspect of sdl? |
| 01:51.46 | brlcad | graphics/windowing? |
| 01:52.18 | pra5ad | + kb/mouse at least |
| 01:52.30 | pra5ad | + opengl support |
| 01:52.41 | pra5ad | *(support for opengl contexts) |
| 01:52.51 | brlcad | clanlib is similarly geared in that regard |
| 01:52.58 | brlcad | probably the only other full-fledged api |
| 01:55.15 | brlcad | otherwise you start gearing towards a platform |
| 01:55.55 | brlcad | like gtk, cocoa, and qt |
| 01:56.10 | brlcad | kdelibs |
| 01:56.24 | pra5ad | hrm |
| 01:56.25 | brlcad | openstep |
| 01:56.49 | pra5ad | sdl mac port is unsupported |
| 01:56.56 | pra5ad | sorted concerned |
| 01:56.59 | pra5ad | sorta* |
| 01:57.04 | brlcad | it works fine |
| 01:57.09 | pra5ad | yea? |
| 01:57.17 | pra5ad | alrighty then |
| 01:58.01 | brlcad | replaced bz's custom cocoa+carbon platform code with sdl platform code relatively easily |
| 01:58.26 | pra5ad | im | | close to getting this project compiled in cygwin, but cygwin's gcc isn't linking to the sdl libs correctly |
| 01:58.54 | Twingy | fozhizzle |
| 01:58.55 | pra5ad | msg boards say gcc-mingw will work |
| 01:58.56 | brlcad | very slight performance hit (< 2% probably) .. but well worth it in the extra features it provided for free (like full-screen/window toggles, resizing, events) |
| 01:58.59 | pra5ad | too lazy to try yet |
| 01:59.50 | pra5ad | toggle only works on x11 no? |
| 02:00.04 | pra5ad | so says sdl header |
| 02:01.40 | brlcad | no, never would use that on x11 unless I had to |
| 02:23.36 | pra5ad | dammit |
| 02:23.56 | pra5ad | where's tegtmeyer |
| 02:24.03 | pra5ad | need his vast template expertise |
| 05:04.44 | Maloeran | SDL's fullscreen toggle couldn't work on windows for ogl, it requires destroying and recreating the context due to some limitations |
| 05:05.23 | Maloeran | There wouldn't be a problem for mere 2d rendering, but that's probably why it's only for x11 in any case |
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| 13:46.21 | brlcad | Maloeran, we use SDL's fullscreen toggle on ogl windows in bz just fine (on all platforms, x11 or otherwise). it does require an ogl state reinit inside your code, but that's generally not a problem since you have to do that anyways at least once. |
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| 14:28.17 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03d_rossberg * 10brlcad/src/libbn/bn_tcl.c: initialize scale structure |
| 14:30.44 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03d_rossberg * 10brlcad/TODO: |
| 14:30.44 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: new section: oddities |
| 14:30.44 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: why is there a scale in bn_cmd_noise_slice? |
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| 20:44.02 | *** topic/#brlcad is http://brlcad.org/ || BRL-CAD is now Open Source! || Release 7.6.0 is now being prepared |
| 20:44.14 | BigIslandVegan | i typed ``Erik's command and it came back with the command prompt, I assume that is a good thing |
| 20:44.18 | brlcad | no X11 running and it's not an "app" in to Finder without going through some hoops (like shoving the binary into a .app or making a .script that execs x11 and mged) |
| 20:44.35 | ``Erik | BigIslandVegan: yes, you can do "cat ~/.bashrc" to see if it worked, it should give you the export line back |
| 20:44.36 | brlcad | BigIslandVegan: yes, now close the window and open a new xterm |
| 20:45.01 | brlcad | type "rt" to see if it worked |
| 20:45.13 | brlcad | you should get a usage block of info about rt |
| 20:45.25 | BigIslandVegan | do i need to quit x11 and mged entirely or just close this particular x11 window and open a new one? |
| 20:45.38 | ``Erik | just the xterm window |
| 20:45.39 | brlcad | just the xterm window |
| 20:45.42 | brlcad | damn |
| 20:45.43 | BigIslandVegan | ok |
| 20:45.49 | ``Erik | and you don't really need to close it, you could 'source' the file instead |
| 20:46.03 | BigIslandVegan | new x11 terminal window |
| 20:46.29 | BigIslandVegan | rt gave me brl-cad info and switch options |
| 20:46.42 | ``Erik | sweet, it works, now you can run "mged" |
| 20:46.49 | BigIslandVegan | hmm |
| 20:46.54 | BigIslandVegan | what is "rt"? |
| 20:46.58 | ``Erik | raytracer |
| 20:47.00 | BigIslandVegan | raytrace something? |
| 20:47.02 | BigIslandVegan | ok |
| 20:47.06 | brlcad | makes pretty pictures |
| 20:47.16 | ``Erik | mine makes ugly pictures :( |
| 20:47.18 | BigIslandVegan | YAY! |
| 20:47.27 | brlcad | there are over 400 commands like that in BRL-CAD .. |
| 20:47.29 | BigIslandVegan | too soon |
| 20:47.32 | BigIslandVegan | :-) |
| 20:47.43 | BigIslandVegan | hmm, brl-cad is heavy on command line? |
| 20:47.49 | brlcad | though much that you'll initially care about is available through mged |
| 20:48.20 | brlcad | there's an expectation of minimal command line familiarity if you get into advanced modeling |
| 20:48.28 | BigIslandVegan | ok |
| 20:48.29 | brlcad | otherwise, you can model and render using mged |
| 20:48.46 | BigIslandVegan | hopefully |
| 20:48.49 | Twingy | all I know how to make is sphere's |
| 20:48.52 | brlcad | BigIslandVegan: suggest going through the mged tutorial series (available on the website) if you haven't started yet |
| 20:48.55 | BigIslandVegan | I will explore it a big |
| 20:48.59 | Twingy | I think dwayne is the arb8 specialist |
| 20:49.15 | BigIslandVegan | that is the pdf file on mged that i mentioned earlier, right? |
| 20:49.35 | brlcad | BigIslandVegan: in the mged command window type: opendb /usr/brlcad/share/brlcad/7.6.0/db/havoc.g |
| 20:49.41 | brlcad | e havoc |
| 20:49.46 | brlcad | rt -F/dev/Xl |
| 20:49.57 | *** join/#brlcad Linux_User (n=c8140b7a@bz.bzflag.bz) |
| 20:50.00 | brlcad | BigIslandVegan: yes |
| 20:50.33 | Linux_User | hi |
| 20:51.02 | Linux_User | i canr intall the brlcad in my linux i cant find the scripit for instalation |
| 20:51.23 | Linux_User | *i cant install the brlcad in my linux i cant find the scripit for instalation- sorry for bad english |
| 20:51.31 | Linux_User | someone can helpe me? |
| 20:52.00 | BigIslandVegan | brlcad: I typed the firt line ending in havoc.g and got "Error invalid command name..." |
| 20:52.07 | BigIslandVegan | firt - first |
| 20:52.31 | ``Erik | BigIslandVegan: the big grey window that popped up when you ran mged, not the xterm |
| 20:52.38 | BigIslandVegan | yes, that's what i used |
| 20:53.05 | BigIslandVegan | the MGED 7.6.0 Command Window (id-0), etc |
| 20:53.24 | brlcad | Linux_User: which download are you trying to install? binary or source? |
| 20:53.47 | brlcad | BigIslandVegan: that command goes into mged, not into xterm |
| 20:53.52 | Linux_User | source of source page |
| 20:53.55 | Linux_User | ops source forge i download from here |
| 20:53.58 | brlcad | Linux_User: and you compiled? |
| 20:54.09 | BigIslandVegan | yes, i typed that command into the MGED command window, grey one |
| 20:54.21 | brlcad | "opendb" |
| 20:54.33 | *** join/#brlcad MikeC1 (n=mcaruso@pool-138-88-91-62.res.east.verizon.net) |
| 20:54.47 | BigIslandVegan | opendb by itself |
| 20:54.47 | MikeC1 | Hi |
| 20:54.51 | MikeC1 | Twingy you there? |
| 20:54.52 | brlcad | howdy bub |
| 20:54.59 | brlcad | BigIslandVegan: sure |
| 20:55.09 | brlcad | BigIslandVegan: either by itself of with the path after it |
| 20:55.09 | Twingy | sorta |
| 20:55.15 | MikeC1 | brlcad: Im trying to compile adrt |
| 20:55.34 | brlcad | Twingy: "W" was looking for you but said she'll talk to you Tuesday |
| 20:55.53 | Twingy | okie |
| 20:55.55 | Linux_User | brlcad: copiled i extracted and i didint find the script how i copile? |
| 20:55.59 | MikeC1 | brlcad: and i am running autocnf to generate the necessary conf files but it says there is a missing required file config.guess and config.sub |
| 20:56.16 | MikeC1 | brlcad: actually automake |
| 20:56.30 | BigIslandVegan | READ ONLY BRL_GSI Paris Air Show Soviet HAVOC Helicopter, etc |
| 20:56.32 | brlcad | Linux_User: run ./autogen.sh for starters then ./configure |
| 20:56.40 | brlcad | BigIslandVegan: that's good |
| 20:56.55 | BigIslandVegan | what did that command do? |
| 20:56.55 | brlcad | BigIslandVegan: now 'e havoc' |
| 20:57.10 | brlcad | BigIslandVegan: you just opened a sample geometry database that was part of the install |
| 20:57.16 | BigIslandVegan | done |
| 20:57.38 | brlcad | 'e havoc' means edit the havoc object, which happens to be something mildly interesting |
| 20:58.13 | brlcad | MikeC1: run autogen.sh instead of the steps manually |
| 20:58.48 | MikeC1 | brlcad: ok so cd src/adrt; ../autogen.sh; ? |
| 20:58.55 | BigIslandVegan | I see a wireframe helicopter |
| 20:59.03 | BigIslandVegan | greem amd greu |
| 20:59.13 | BigIslandVegan | green |
| 20:59.19 | brlcad | MikeC1: no, at the top-level |
| 20:59.27 | MikeC1 | brlcad: I did that already |
| 20:59.29 | brlcad | BigIslandVegan: that's a start |
| 20:59.37 | brlcad | MikeC1: and it succeeded or failed? |
| 20:59.46 | MikeC1 | succeeded and I did a make after that |
| 20:59.54 | brlcad | BigIslandVegan: File->Raytrace |
| 20:59.55 | MikeC1 | and after installation I did not see the adrt binary |
| 21:00.04 | brlcad | MikeC1: after autogen.sh you have to run configure |
| 21:00.12 | MikeC1 | brlcad: Yes I did that too |
| 21:00.16 | Linux_User | brlcad: where is the floder where i musth do this? |
| 21:00.26 | MikeC1 | brlcad: sh autogen.sh; ./configure; make; make install; |
| 21:00.27 | BigIslandVegan | i see the raytrace control panel |
| 21:00.31 | brlcad | MikeC1: did the configure summary say adrt was enabled? |
| 21:00.37 | MikeC1 | brlcad: yes |
| 21:00.51 | brlcad | MikeC1: then you cd'd to src/adrt |
| 21:00.57 | brlcad | ? |
| 21:01.07 | brlcad | BigIslandVegan: hit the raytrace button ;) |
| 21:01.17 | MikeC1 | brlcad: well before I ran autogen.sh I cd'd into adrt and I thought I could build adrt by itself |
| 21:01.28 | MikeC1 | brlcad: I tried running autoconf, automake etc and faield |
| 21:01.37 | MikeC1 | brlcad: then i went to the top level and found autogen.sh |
| 21:01.45 | MikeC1 | brlcad: I ran that and it did say adrt was enabled |
| 21:02.02 | MikeC1 | brlcad: did a configure and make and make isntall and looked in the installation directory |
| 21:02.07 | MikeC1 | brlcad: and did not find the adrt birnary |
| 21:02.09 | brlcad | BigIslandVegan: to hide the wireframe, you can select Framebuffer -> Underlay/Overlay to hide/unhide |
| 21:02.25 | MikeC1 | brlcad: the adrt libraries are not in the installation lib directory either |
| 21:02.40 | brlcad | MikeC1: there is no 'adrt' binary.. it's a collection of binaries like 'isst_observer' |
| 21:02.52 | BigIslandVegan | I see, hmm |
| 21:02.58 | BigIslandVegan | neato |
| 21:03.17 | MikeC1 | brlcad: i dont see an isst_observer in the bin installation directory |
| 21:03.24 | brlcad | BigIslandVegan: not incredibly purdy, but slightly more interesting than most of the other "freebies" that get installed |
| 21:03.44 | brlcad | MikeC1: cd to src/adrt and make .. what does it say/do? |
| 21:04.18 | ``Erik | I d'no, sphereflake is kinda nifty... m35 is ok... moss world is a pretty normal looking 'first raytrace demo' |
| 21:04.50 | MikeC1 | brlcad: it is going through configure right now |
| 21:04.52 | brlcad | dunno why |
| 21:05.06 | brlcad | MikeC1: okay, that means you did something out of order ;) |
| 21:05.17 | MikeC1 | brlcad: ok Im going to start over |
| 21:05.25 | brlcad | it should be fine to let it finish |
| 21:05.42 | BigIslandVegan | what i would like to do is digitally represent a housing project I have in my mind, using ~30' diameter steel reinforced concrete domes arranged in close proximity, surrounded by a retaining wall, the domes would be covered with soil, each dome would have a cupola sticking above the soil. You think brl-cad would be good or should I try to learn blender instead? I'm new to both |
| 21:06.29 | brlcad | BigIslandVegan: it depends on what your intent of the modeling is -- if it's just to make some pictures, blender will probably be better |
| 21:06.57 | brlcad | if it's to perform any sort of analysis, compute values/weights, etc, brl-cad should be better |
| 21:06.59 | BigIslandVegan | raytrace complete |
| 21:07.06 | brlcad | both are going to have a steep learning curve |
| 21:07.18 | Linux_User | brlcad i cant find the autogen please reply me where is it? |
| 21:07.19 | BigIslandVegan | i figured that last part to be true |
| 21:07.37 | brlcad | Linux_User: autogen.sh .. it's at the top level ./autogen.sh |
| 21:08.11 | MikeC1 | brlcad: also I got the source from CVS |
| 21:08.15 | Linux_User | brl cad in usr ? |
| 21:08.31 | Linux_User | where is the past of it? |
| 21:08.33 | brlcad | Linux_User: you said you downloaded source not binary, right? |
| 21:08.39 | brlcad | Linux_User: hablas español? |
| 21:08.57 | Linux_User | i downlloaded the file of source forge .net |
| 21:09.02 | Linux_User | si |
| 21:09.06 | brlcad | Linux_User: brl-cad installs into /usr/brlcad by default, you'd have to add /usr/brlcad/bin to your path |
| 21:09.33 | Linux_User | how i didi it? |
| 21:09.37 | Linux_User | como eu faco isso?: |
| 21:09.56 | brlcad | Linux_User: si prefieres, escribame en español y te contesto en ingles o español |
| 21:10.34 | BigIslandVegan | oh wow, multilingual even :-o |
| 21:11.07 | BigIslandVegan | Thanks``Erik and brlcad, very much! |
| 21:11.21 | brlcad | BigIslandVegan: you're quite welcome, happy modeling |
| 21:11.28 | BigIslandVegan | ;_) |
| 21:11.51 | brlcad | Linux_User: ls -lad /usr/brlcad tienes algo alli? |
| 21:12.11 | MikeC1 | brlcad: is there a repository of .g files somwhere other than the ones that come from share/db? |
| 21:13.03 | Linux_User | brlcad: oly pastes the bin include man and share |
| 21:13.04 | brlcad | MikeC1: there are many repositories, though most are restricted distribution or only available to certain groups for a fee or not available without a clearance..etc |
| 21:13.20 | Linux_User | and lib too |
| 21:13.38 | brlcad | Linux_User: so it sounds like it's installed.. which is good |
| 21:13.56 | brlcad | Linux_User: run "export PATH=/usr/brlcad/bin:$PATH" si usas bash/sh |
| 21:14.11 | brlcad | and then "mged" |
| 21:16.32 | pra5ad | ``Erik, if i go with DEBUG(asd << asd << asd); ... can i do multiline << operations? |
| 21:16.34 | brlcad | MikeC1: I've been trying to get the air force to release a couple tank models to me for inclusion, that will be very nice if/when it happens |
| 21:16.50 | ``Erik | yes |
| 21:16.52 | MikeC1 | brlcad: that would be cool |
| 21:16.52 | brlcad | heh |
| 21:17.08 | ``Erik | gcc -E will show you what it does |
| 21:17.26 | MikeC1 | brlcad: it seems isst_observer or any other supporting adrt things are not part of the 7.6.0 linux binary distribution? |
| 21:17.34 | brlcad | very cool, one in particular is the T72, beautiful and externally detailed model |
| 21:18.01 | brlcad | MikeC1: that is correct, not included by default in the binary distributions |
| 21:18.21 | MikeC1 | brlcad: understoof |
| 21:18.24 | MikeC1 | brlcad: understood* |
| 21:18.36 | Linux_User | brlcad: eu escrvi e dei enter mas nada se passou |
| 21:18.43 | brlcad | adrt makes use of a couple external resources that aren't included/includable, so adrt ends up getting disabled during configure |
| 21:18.54 | pra5ad | DEBUG(asd << |
| 21:18.56 | pra5ad | asd); |
| 21:19.00 | pra5ad | should work fine? |
| 21:19.06 | Linux_User | era apra ter usado o comado onde? |
| 21:19.10 | ``Erik | yes, prasad... |
| 21:19.13 | brlcad | Linux_User: cuando escribes el export o mged? |
| 21:19.20 | pra5ad | hrm |
| 21:20.34 | brlcad | Linux_User: solo escribe el export una vez.. despuez escribe mged |
| 21:22.29 | brlcad | Linux_User: type "/usr/brlcad/bin/rt" .. what does it say? command not found? or a usage message about BRL-CAD? |
| 21:24.07 | AchiestDragon | what about user submitted .g files for inclusion as examples , shurely there must be someone with some |
| 21:24.35 | brlcad | AchiestDragon: I'd happily include new ones if/when people provide them |
| 21:24.35 | MikeC1 | brlcad: I deleted my brlcad build and installation directories, checked out code from CVS, ran sh autogen.sh, ran ./configure and it says adrt is enabled, is there anything I can look for in the src/adrt directory to verify that adrt will be built? |
| 21:24.49 | ``Erik | pra5ad: http://smluc.org/~erik/nuts.cc (for shits and giggles, hit it with g++ -E nuts.cc | tail -n 20) |
| 21:25.36 | Linux_User | brlcad: i dont find rt |
| 21:26.08 | Linux_User | no such a file or directori |
| 21:26.41 | brlcad | MikeC1: just compilation success, no errors -- run make and then ls -la src/adrt/isst/observer/isst_observer |
| 21:26.51 | MikeC1 | ok |
| 21:27.20 | MikeC1 | im building the debug version of brlcad |
| 21:27.39 | brlcad | Linux_User: hmmm .. that means you didn't install fully or correctly |
| 21:28.03 | brlcad | Linux_User: you downloaded the source or binary distribution? |
| 21:28.28 | brlcad | MikeC1: that should be fine, just to make sure everything works |
| 21:29.58 | Linux_User | i will downladed the compressed file of souceforge.net version 7.6.0 |
| 21:30.16 | Linux_User | i dont know if this is binary or source |
| 21:30.33 | brlcad | what's the name of what you downloaded? |
| 21:30.49 | brlcad | the file |
| 21:32.42 | AchiestDragon | well into day 4 or 5 of the render of m35.g here , lost count , still no percentage indication shown |
| 21:33.03 | MikeC1 | Achiest are you rendering an animation? |
| 21:33.24 | Linux_User | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:34.44 | AchiestDragon | no single frame , photonmap , with lots of photons 4194304 |
| 21:35.18 | brlcad | Linux_User: that's a binary distribution |
| 21:35.37 | Linux_User | ok and now waht i do? |
| 21:35.59 | brlcad | Linux_User: you unzipped and untarred? |
| 21:39.12 | AchiestDragon | and cpu still trickleing at 25% usage , |
| 21:39.48 | Linux_User | unziped yes untarred... waht is untarred? |
| 21:40.28 | brlcad | bunzip2 brlcad-7.6.0_linux_ia32.tar.bz2 |
| 21:40.34 | brlcad | tar xvf brlcad-7.6.0_linux_ia32.tar |
| 21:40.49 | brlcad | sudo cp -R usr/brlcad /usr/. |
| 21:41.09 | AchiestDragon | question does the raytracer have a throttle back function that would allow me to set the max percentage total cou usage, would be usefull on some machines where the cooling is not up to 100% cpu for more than a hr or so |
| 21:41.36 | brlcad | AchiestDragon: with that many photons, I doubt it will finish for weeks .. not worth it |
| 21:42.10 | brlcad | AchiestDragon: by default, rt renices itself so that it doesn't take over the system's performance |
| 21:42.38 | Linux_User | yes it is in the paste user now |
| 21:42.50 | AchiestDragon | well ether it finishes before archer for linux is in cvs or it gets stoped while i cvs up |
| 21:42.58 | brlcad | Linux_User: no errors? |
| 21:43.21 | brlcad | AchiestDragon: yeah, archer for linux will be available before that finishes :) |
| 21:44.19 | Linux_User | nao mas o atrquivo configure e autogen nao constavam aonde deviam estar nem no zip file |
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| 21:44.28 | Linux_User | i am redonwloading it |
| 21:45.30 | brlcad | Linux_User: there is no configure/autogen.sh.. that's a binary distribution that is just ready to use |
| 21:45.41 | AchiestDragon | was reading some grid computer forums , the grid software used any spare cpu capacaty (same way as brlcad does) , but there was concern that some systems (especialy over clocked ones) tended to overheat and run the risk of burning out the cpu |
| 21:45.59 | Linux_User | how i execute the progam |
| 21:45.59 | Linux_User | ? |
| 21:46.08 | brlcad | Linux_User: try /usr/brlcad/bin/rt again |
| 21:46.58 | Linux_User | no such a valid file or directori |
| 21:47.02 | Linux_User | i donwloaded this now brlcad-7.6.0_linux_ia32.tar.bz2 |
| 21:47.26 | Linux_User | im extracting |
| 21:47.34 | AchiestDragon | so it was sugested that thay include a max continuous percentage usage , so the cpu could run continuously at 70% |
| 21:49.13 | AchiestDragon | only realy affects some sytems where the cooling on alot of desktops and laptops is only rated for a constant 70 to 75% cpu ,laptops are worse , alot worse |
| 21:50.06 | Linux_User | man its very low the extract |
| 21:51.04 | brlcad | ls -la /usr/brlcad what does it show? |
| 21:51.31 | brlcad | AchiestDragon: one might say those are fundamentally flawed systems ;) |
| 21:51.45 | AchiestDragon | yes aggrees |
| 21:52.30 | AchiestDragon | but lots of people have them , and most dont know about it |
| 21:52.30 | Linux_User | bin include man lib share |
| 21:52.46 | brlcad | I don't see a reason to not accept a cpu throttling patch to the tracers, but I don't think I'll be writing it until I have a massive cluster that requires it at my disposal ;) |
| 21:52.59 | brlcad | Linux_User: ls -la /usr/brlcad/bin/rt* |
| 21:54.32 | AchiestDragon | may be worth a note about the 100% usage in the documentation and that the system cooling should be up to it |
| 21:55.07 | Linux_User | no such a valide file or directori |
| 21:55.21 | Linux_User | i m redonwloading this file brlcad-7.6.0_linux_ia32.tar.g |
| 21:55.50 | Linux_User | myu conection its hight speed |
| 21:56.06 | Linux_User | but i cant fint this rt |
| 21:56.11 | Linux_User | in bin |
| 21:56.35 | AchiestDragon | or you may get the following bug reports from some users :- works fine but when doing a long trace the system crashes after XX hrs |
| 21:56.45 | Linux_User | ops |
| 21:56.46 | Linux_User | i find |
| 21:57.30 | brlcad | Linux_User: ls -la /usr/brlcad/bin .. just what is in there? |
| 21:57.51 | Linux_User | very much executable files |
| 21:58.02 | Linux_User | i find rt in grafic mode but i can run it |
| 21:58.14 | brlcad | Linux_User: you mean mged works? |
| 21:58.36 | Linux_User | i dont know aht is mged? |
| 21:58.39 | brlcad | ls -la /usr/brlcad/bin/m* |
| 21:58.52 | brlcad | mged is the primary modeler application |
| 22:00.26 | Linux_User | i cant find mged |
| 22:00.43 | Linux_User | no its here butt dont start |
| 22:00.49 | Linux_User | how i star the program? |
| 22:02.19 | Linux_User | i find mged and rt but they dont start when i clic in they how i start the program? |
| 22:02.39 | brlcad | Linux_User: you start them on the command line |
| 22:02.46 | brlcad | export PATH=/usr/brlcad/bin:$PATH |
| 22:02.47 | brlcad | mged |
| 22:03.49 | Linux_User | comand not found |
| 22:04.09 | Linux_User | i tip export like you mean and tipo mged and the console said comand not found |
| 22:05.01 | brlcad | what shell do you use? |
| 22:05.08 | brlcad | bash, tcsh, zsh? |
| 22:05.11 | Linux_User | kurumin |
| 22:05.25 | Linux_User | kde |
| 22:06.04 | brlcad | that's the distribution.. and the gui.. what's the command line? |
| 22:06.18 | brlcad | type: echo $SHELL |
| 22:07.04 | Linux_User | is /bin/bash |
| 22:07.34 | brlcad | then something isn't adding up with what you're telling me |
| 22:08.00 | brlcad | if there are lots of executables in /usr/brlcad/bin, there should be an rt and mged minimally |
| 22:08.27 | Linux_User | i type shenm and aperare it: /bin/bash |
| 22:08.29 | brlcad | if you can find them through kde yet cannot on the command line, it sounds like you might not be using the command line correctly.. ? |
| 22:09.13 | Linux_User | i use the grafic mode to execute ant he dont work too |
| 22:09.35 | brlcad | that won't work |
| 22:09.50 | brlcad | but the fact that you find them in graphic mode yet cannot on the command line is wrong |
| 22:09.58 | Linux_User | there are very much executables in bin i tiped export PATH=/usr/brlcad/bin:$PATH 10 times and PATH=/usr/brlcad/bin:$PATH 5 time and wont work |
| 22:10.13 | brlcad | echo $PATH |
| 22:10.16 | Linux_User | yes sorry for english you speak portuguese? |
| 22:10.22 | brlcad | I wish I did :) |
| 22:10.40 | brlcad | I can understand it usually, but cannot write/speak |
| 22:11.23 | brlcad | echo $PATH |
| 22:11.25 | Linux_User | ok look eu escrevi echo $PATH e apareceu muitas coisas |
| 22:11.38 | brlcad | paste them here |
| 22:11.42 | Linux_User | usr/brlcad/bin:usr/brlcad/bin:/usr/brlcad/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/games |
| 22:11.46 | Linux_User | is this |
| 22:12.01 | brlcad | okay, that's good |
| 22:12.31 | brlcad | the first two are wrong.. missing the "/" in front of usr, but the third is right so you should be fine.. :) |
| 22:12.48 | brlcad | that's all of it? |
| 22:12.52 | MikeC1 | brlcad: I jsut finished a make and I do not see a src/adrt/isst/observer/isst_observer |
| 22:13.25 | brlcad | MikeC1: did you get any error after make? |
| 22:13.25 | Linux_User | usr/brlcad/bin:usr/brlcad/bin:/usr/brlcad/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/games |
| 22:13.31 | Linux_User | yes it is all of it |
| 22:13.38 | brlcad | Linux_User: okay, good |
| 22:13.47 | Linux_User | therea re not hte / in the frist usr |
| 22:13.47 | brlcad | Linux_User: type: which brlman |
| 22:13.52 | MikeC1 | brlcad: make continue all the way through and did not stop if there was an error |
| 22:14.07 | brlcad | MikeC1: what version are you working with? |
| 22:14.18 | MikeC1 | BRL-CAD Release 7.6.1, Build 20051007 |
| 22:14.20 | Linux_User | i tiped now? |
| 22:14.21 | MikeC1 | downloaded from CVS |
| 22:14.42 | brlcad | Linux_User: yes, type "which brlman" .. what does it say? |
| 22:14.50 | brlcad | MikeC1: ah, okay, should be good |
| 22:14.58 | brlcad | MikeC1: so now cd src/adrt and make |
| 22:15.15 | brlcad | copy-paste the output to pastebin |
| 22:15.19 | Linux_User | nothing its like pat olni jump one line |
| 22:15.28 | brlcad | Linux_User: okay.. hrmm |
| 22:15.37 | MikeC1 | brlcad: it is compiling now |
| 22:18.45 | Linux_User | man thanks for help if you find the solution for me send for acheicaleb@gmail.com i must go now tanks |
| 22:19.06 | brlcad | Linux_User: okay, sorry I'm not sure what's going on in your situation |
| 22:19.11 | brlcad | like it's untarring wrong |
| 22:21.25 | Linux_User | n this case send me the link where i find a diferent version |
| 22:22.12 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/configure.ac: oh yeah, twingy disabled ADRT permanently, though I forget why. re-enable it. |
| 22:22.19 | brlcad | MikeC1: I forget exactly why, but adrt was disabled even though it says it wasn't |
| 22:22.27 | MikeC1 | brlcad: oh ok |
| 22:22.37 | brlcad | cd'ing to the directory is a simple workaround though (or editing configure.ac |
| 22:22.42 | MikeC1 | brlcad: I'm having a python issue, im going to fix that |
| 22:22.55 | MikeC1 | brlcad: yea thanks at least i can get it to compile to some level now |
| 22:23.39 | brlcad | MikeC1: k, you might have to edit the Makefile.am's to get the build to complete correctly, or pass CFLAGS/LDFLAGS etc (make CFLAGS="...") |
| 22:23.47 | pra5ad | ``Erik, whats the easiest way in sh script to traverse a dir tree |
| 22:23.52 | MikeC1 | brlcad: understood |
| 22:23.55 | brlcad | pra5ad: find |
| 22:24.20 | pra5ad | the captured output is in array form? |
| 22:25.04 | brlcad | pra5ad: sudo find /tmp -type f -exec rm -rf {} \; |
| 22:25.28 | brlcad | pra5ad: what are you trying to do? |
| 22:25.47 | brlcad | find is the tool regardless .. it can output file/dir lists or run commands on files/dirs recursively |
| 22:25.55 | pra5ad | run anything with _test in the directory tree + wait for user input between each exec |
| 22:28.28 | brlcad | wait for user input? |
| 22:28.35 | brlcad | what sort of waiting? |
| 22:29.15 | pra5ad | <press c to quit; any key to continue> |
| 22:29.20 | pra5ad | something like that |
| 22:29.52 | brlcad | ahh, you'll probably want to script the sucker then |
| 22:30.06 | pra5ad | yea |
| 22:30.12 | brlcad | echo "read blah" > wait |
| 22:30.13 | pra5ad | trying to figure out the dir traversal |
| 22:30.20 | brlcad | otherwise something like: find dir_tree -name \*_test -exec echo "ready to run {}" \; -exec sh wait \; -exec {} \; |
| 22:31.04 | brlcad | files="`find dir_tree -name \*_test`" |
| 22:31.16 | brlcad | for file in $files ; do |
| 22:31.27 | brlcad | echo "<press c to quit; any key to continue>" |
| 22:31.34 | brlcad | read quit |
| 22:32.08 | brlcad | [ "x$quit" = "xc" ] && exit 0 |
| 22:32.11 | brlcad | $file |
| 22:32.12 | brlcad | done |
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