| 00:00.05 | brlcad | cvs update -r rel-7-6-6 -dP |
| 00:00.07 | rricardo23 | in the README file |
| 00:01.00 | rricardo23 | basically the error is |
| 00:01.18 | brlcad | danka |
| 00:02.45 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/README: remove the outdated warning about libtool 1.5 since autogen.sh works around the problem now |
| 00:04.01 | rricardo23 | how do i remove it? |
| 00:04.13 | brlcad | remove what? |
| 00:04.25 | brlcad | you didn't paste the error |
| 00:04.57 | brlcad | ~pastebin |
| 00:04.59 | ibot | methinks pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/, or http://pastebin.ca |
| 00:06.39 | rricardo23 | the error says...'../usr/home/ricardo/brlcad/src/libbu/.libs/libbu.so: undefined refrence to pthread_mutex_unlock...also mutex_lock, and mutex_init...' |
| 00:06.55 | brlcad | hmm |
| 00:07.05 | brlcad | good ol' bsd threading libs |
| 00:07.05 | ``Erik | meh, that means -pthread isn't being used |
| 00:07.27 | brlcad | rricardo23: what did configure say about -pthread? |
| 00:08.15 | rricardo23 | the configure just went fine... |
| 00:08.23 | brlcad | i mean what were the test lines |
| 00:08.25 | brlcad | something like: |
| 00:08.26 | brlcad | checking for pthread_create in -lc_r... no |
| 00:08.26 | brlcad | checking for thr_create in -lthread... no |
| 00:08.26 | brlcad | checking for pthread_create in -lpthread... yes |
| 00:08.44 | brlcad | run it again, watch for section 3 |
| 00:08.44 | rricardo23 | i'll do it again...:-( |
| 00:08.46 | brlcad | checking ... l i b r a r i e s ... (3 of 9) |
| 00:08.51 | ``Erik | (bsd4 needs -pthread, not -lpthread) |
| 00:09.03 | ``Erik | it's not a library per se, it's an ad hoc compiler option :( |
| 00:09.06 | brlcad | yeah, should be one more |
| 00:09.16 | brlcad | -pthread is tested after -lpthread fails |
| 00:11.49 | rricardo23 | it says '...checking for pthread_create in -lc_r...(cached) yes |
| 00:12.08 | brlcad | hmm |
| 00:12.33 | brlcad | well, that sucks |
| 00:12.45 | ``Erik | hurrr, libc_r exists on 4, but it still needs -pthread |
| 00:12.48 | brlcad | hack it in as an ldflag |
| 00:12.51 | rricardo23 | it does for me...:-( |
| 00:13.03 | brlcad | ./configure LDFLAGS=-pthread |
| 00:13.13 | rricardo23 | i'll do that...wait |
| 00:13.19 | brlcad | then make again |
| 00:13.50 | ``Erik | it might be a CFLAG |
| 00:15.07 | rricardo23 | got a bunch of syntax errors...:-( |
| 00:15.44 | brlcad | example? |
| 00:16.20 | rricardo23 | syntax error before 'uintptr_t'...before 'u_short'...'pid_t'...'*' |
| 00:16.37 | brlcad | using it as an ldflag is usually sufficient |
| 00:16.50 | rricardo23 | ...'warning: data definition has no type or storage class...Error code 1 |
| 00:16.59 | brlcad | hm.. what test was that? |
| 00:17.12 | brlcad | checking.. what? |
| 00:17.28 | ``Erik | do CFLAGS=-pthread instead |
| 00:17.38 | rricardo23 | i did it |
| 00:17.56 | rricardo23 | sorry....:-D |
| 00:18.03 | rricardo23 | i'll do that now |
| 00:19.25 | rricardo23 | same errors Erik... |
| 00:21.35 | brlcad | what test do you first see the errors on? |
| 00:23.52 | brlcad | oh right, c_r means -pthread gets added |
| 00:24.37 | rricardo23 | could the install_dir has something to do with it? |
| 00:24.58 | brlcad | not likely |
| 00:25.14 | brlcad | rerun your original configure |
| 00:25.27 | brlcad | what was your original ./configure ? |
| 00:25.41 | Twingy | a light! |
| 00:25.44 | brlcad | did you use any options? |
| 00:25.50 | Twingy | *happy dance* |
| 00:26.11 | rricardo23 | didn't use any options.... |
| 00:26.24 | rricardo23 | just ./configure... |
| 00:26.29 | brlcad | rricardo23: okay, that's fine |
| 00:26.32 | brlcad | so rerun it |
| 00:26.40 | brlcad | and get back to the libbu error |
| 00:26.46 | rricardo23 | without options? |
| 00:26.50 | brlcad | sure |
| 00:26.56 | rricardo23 | ok... |
| 00:27.51 | rricardo23 | done...no problema!. |
| 00:28.33 | rricardo23 | do you want me to run 'make' now? |
| 00:28.34 | brlcad | que bien, ahora: make LDFLAGS=-pthread |
| 00:28.42 | rricardo23 | ok... |
| 00:29.24 | rricardo23 | same olde errors...:-( |
| 00:29.57 | rricardo23 | syntax errors i mean |
| 00:30.23 | brlcad | can you paste your build log to pastebin.com? |
| 00:30.55 | brlcad | you paste there, they give you a url -- you provide us the URL |
| 00:31.40 | rricardo23 | i'll try that... |
| 00:32.28 | ``Erik | pr away, wee. |
| 00:32.35 | brlcad | if you care to provide a system account, I wouldn't mind logging in to fix the build |
| 00:32.41 | brlcad | ``Erik: did you try make fast? |
| 00:32.56 | ``Erik | no |
| 00:33.03 | ``Erik | just wanted to get the pr out the door |
| 00:33.40 | ``Erik | configuring a fresh extract |
| 00:35.24 | rricardo23 | how the heck I paste it?!....I'm working from CLI |
| 00:35.25 | ``Erik | building (tk, itcl/itk, iwidgets, x11, ogl, 64b, -O2) |
| 00:36.13 | brlcad | rricardo23: depends how you've set up your console :) |
| 00:36.20 | Twingy | woo |
| 00:36.23 | Twingy | wireless on freebsd |
| 00:36.32 | ``Erik | heh, finally fixed the driver? :D |
| 00:36.45 | Twingy | well, I was scared when I got these cards, cause they had the same vendor string |
| 00:36.49 | ``Erik | <-- still thinks you shoulda loaned him a couple cards |
| 00:36.50 | Twingy | so my modified driver is working |
| 00:36.58 | brlcad | rricardo23: just paste it here then if you can (but just the last few lines of the build) |
| 00:37.12 | Twingy | I'll just copy my driver source over to the other boxen as I put the cards in |
| 00:37.28 | ``Erik | send-pr it, dude |
| 00:37.35 | Twingy | never! :) |
| 00:37.48 | ``Erik | then loan me two cards so I can replicate the fix and send it myself |
| 00:38.15 | Twingy | ral0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 |
| 00:38.15 | Twingy | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:38.15 | Twingy | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:38.15 | Twingy | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:38.15 | Twingy | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:38.15 | Twingy | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:38.17 | Twingy | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:38.19 | Twingy | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:38.21 | Twingy | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:38.35 | Twingy | cool eh? |
| 00:38.51 | brlcad | the "T-Wing Net" |
| 00:38.52 | Twingy | dude, you complain about driving to the booze stoor |
| 00:39.03 | Twingy | how in the world are you going to drive here |
| 00:39.17 | ``Erik | heh, you're supposed to drive here |
| 00:39.19 | ``Erik | :D |
| 00:39.21 | brlcad | that's a valid complaint |
| 00:39.26 | brlcad | you have to be sober to get more |
| 00:39.56 | Twingy | FreeBSD nitrous.js.cx 7.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #3: Sat Dec 24 16:40:44 EST 2005 justin@nitrous.js.cx:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/NITROUS i386 |
| 00:40.08 | Twingy | good shit |
| 00:40.15 | ``Erik | erm , it finished, but didn't say the time |
| 00:40.22 | brlcad | rricardo23: que haces? :) |
| 00:40.34 | ``Erik | my 7.0 box still has a borked up bootloader |
| 00:40.40 | brlcad | didn't say the time?? hrm |
| 00:40.50 | Twingy | I think I might drop back to 6 stable |
| 00:40.55 | ``Erik | make clean ; time make -j8 fast |
| 00:41.02 | rricardo23 | f...trying to paste it...:-) |
| 00:41.12 | brlcad | ahh, jeje |
| 00:41.22 | ``Erik | rricardo23: moused running? :) |
| 00:41.22 | Twingy | I got one of them magnetic mount antennas with each of these 3 cards too |
| 00:41.29 | Twingy | just plops onto the top of the box, love it |
| 00:41.36 | rricardo23 | yup |
| 00:41.43 | ``Erik | heh, and when you turn on your power series, you lose wifi? :D |
| 00:42.08 | Twingy | I'm thinking about getting a lynksys wireless bridge to have the only wireless powerseries in existence :) |
| 00:42.28 | ``Erik | you might already have the only home power series |
| 00:42.29 | Twingy | AUI -> RJ45 -> Wireless |
| 00:42.52 | Twingy | I need to get that thing bootable again |
| 00:43.11 | Twingy | it's got enough crunch for surfing the web |
| 00:43.27 | Twingy | and spinning shiney 3d things around |
| 00:43.34 | ``Erik | Booting... IRIX 5.6 |
| 00:43.39 | Twingy | 5.3 |
| 00:43.44 | ``Erik | > AM KRUSHINK WEB, DA |
| 00:43.46 | ``Erik | login: |
| 00:44.20 | Twingy | ok, lemme think |
| 00:44.29 | Twingy | rc.conf |
| 00:44.40 | Twingy | I need to pass a bunch of parameters to ral0 |
| 00:45.16 | ``Erik | real 4m28.200s |
| 00:45.23 | rricardo23 | ...'checking if pthreading works... no' <-- i got this in the output of the ./configure |
| 00:45.30 | Twingy | o.O |
| 00:45.30 | ``Erik | 2 seconds slower, sean, close enough to say 'no difference' |
| 00:47.16 | brlcad | good to know |
| 00:47.36 | rricardo23 | good you know..:-) |
| 00:56.20 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/configure.ac: (log message trimmed) |
| 00:56.20 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: add a check to test whether we ended up with POSIX threading if only primarily |
| 00:56.20 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: to have the hint in the config.log output. the pthread test was found in gd's |
| 00:56.20 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: configure.ac and seems a reasonable fairely comprehensive test. |
| 00:56.20 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: pthread_cleanup_push is reportedly non-functional stub function on solaris; |
| 00:56.20 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: pthread_create and pthread_join are not necessarily in the same lib on irix |
| 00:56.22 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: (even though we prefer sproc on irix for performance); pthread_attr_init is |
| 00:57.31 | brlcad | rricardo23: are you running gpm? |
| 00:57.57 | brlcad | if it's running and /dev/mouse is set, you can middle-click to paste a selection |
| 00:58.34 | brlcad | or moused |
| 00:58.55 | rricardo23 | don't know...i'll check |
| 00:59.15 | rricardo23 | no |
| 00:59.29 | brlcad | run moused |
| 00:59.44 | rricardo23 | i'm running moused |
| 01:00.29 | brlcad | hmm |
| 01:00.57 | brlcad | you have a three-button mouse? |
| 01:00.59 | brlcad | or two? |
| 01:01.08 | rricardo23 | 3 |
| 01:01.26 | brlcad | hmm, does the mouse cursor move if you move the mouse? |
| 01:01.35 | brlcad | i.e. can you make selections? |
| 01:01.42 | rricardo23 | no..:-( |
| 01:02.05 | rricardo23 | ource='fb_generic.c' object='libfb_la-fb_generic.lo' libtool=yes DEPDIR=.deps |
| 01:02.05 | rricardo23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:02.05 | rricardo23 | libtool --tag=CC --mode=compile gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../include - |
| 01:02.05 | rricardo23 | I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include -I../../include -I/usr/X11R6/include - |
| 01:02.05 | rricardo23 | DIF_REMOTE -DIF_AB -DIF_X -DIF_OGL -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -g -c |
| 01:02.06 | rricardo23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:02.08 | rricardo23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:02.10 | rricardo23 | include -I../../include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DIF_REMOTE -DIF_AB -DIF_X -DIF_OG |
| 01:02.12 | rricardo23 | L -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -g -c fb_generic.c -Wp,-MD,.deps/libfb |
| 01:02.14 | rricardo23 | _la-fb_generic.TPlo -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/libfb_la-fb_generic.o |
| 01:02.16 | rricardo23 | *** Error code 1 |
| 01:02.18 | rricardo23 | Stop in /usr/home/ricardo/brlcad/src/libfb. |
| 01:02.20 | rricardo23 | *** Error code 1 |
| 01:02.23 | rricardo23 | Stop in /usr/home/ricardo/brlcad/src/libfb. |
| 01:02.26 | rricardo23 | *** Error code 1 |
| 01:02.26 | rricardo23 | Stop in /usr/home/ricardo/brlcad/src. |
| 01:02.28 | rricardo23 | *** Error code 1 |
| 01:02.30 | rricardo23 | Stop in /usr/home/ricardo/brlcad. |
| 01:02.32 | rricardo23 | top in /usr/home/ricardo/brlcad. |
| 01:02.34 | rricardo23 | top in /usr/home/ricardo/brlcad. |
| 01:02.36 | rricardo23 | :-D |
| 01:02.38 | rricardo23 | is that what you meant?... |
| 01:02.41 | brlcad | yeah |
| 01:02.46 | rricardo23 | :-D |
| 01:03.01 | brlcad | though it doesn't say the error :) |
| 01:03.16 | rricardo23 | wait |
| 01:03.57 | brlcad | looks like it was ctrl-c'd or something |
| 01:04.18 | rricardo23 | you want thew whole output of the make? |
| 01:04.29 | rricardo23 | or the ./configure? |
| 01:04.37 | brlcad | not the whole output of configure |
| 01:05.01 | rricardo23 | make or conf? |
| 01:05.22 | brlcad | output of make from right before the errors |
| 01:05.29 | rricardo23 | k... |
| 01:05.59 | rricardo23 | source='fb_generic.c' object='libfb_la-fb_generic.lo' libtool=yes DEPDIR=.deps depmode=gcc /usr/local/bin/bash ../../misc/depcomp /usr/local/bin/bash ../../libtool --tag=CC --mode=compile gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include -I../../include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DIF_REMOTE -DIF_AB -DIF_X -DIF_OGL -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -g -c -o libfb_la-fb_generic.lo `test -f 'fb_gen |
| 01:05.59 | rricardo23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:05.59 | rricardo23 | In file included from /usr/include/sys/select.h:40, |
| 01:06.01 | rricardo23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:06.03 | rricardo23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:06.05 | rricardo23 | In file included from ../../include/fb.h:40, |
| 01:06.07 | rricardo23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:06.09 | rricardo23 | In file included from fb_generic.c:56: |
| 01:06.11 | rricardo23 | ../../include/fb.h:233: syntax error before `*' |
| 01:06.13 | rricardo23 | ../../include/fb.h:233: warning: data definition has no type or storage class |
| 01:06.15 | rricardo23 | *** Error code 1 |
| 01:06.17 | rricardo23 | Stop in /usr/home/ricardo/brlcad/src/libfb. |
| 01:06.19 | rricardo23 | *** Error code 1 |
| 01:06.21 | rricardo23 | Stop in /usr/home/ricardo/brlcad/src/libfb. |
| 01:06.23 | rricardo23 | *** Error code 1 |
| 01:06.25 | rricardo23 | Stop in /usr/home/ricardo/brlcad/src. |
| 01:06.27 | rricardo23 | *** Error code 1 |
| 01:06.29 | rricardo23 | Stop in /usr/home/ricardo/brlcad. |
| 01:07.03 | brlcad | that's good |
| 01:07.10 | rricardo23 | :-) |
| 01:07.12 | brlcad | complaining about fd_set |
| 01:08.08 | rricardo23 | workaround?...if there's any... |
| 01:08.38 | brlcad | yeah, hold on a sec |
| 01:08.45 | rricardo23 | :-) |
| 01:08.59 | brlcad | grep -r fd_set /usr/include/*| grep struct |
| 01:09.03 | brlcad | what does that output? |
| 01:09.09 | rricardo23 | wait.. |
| 01:11.58 | brlcad | usually that's in /usr/include/sys/select.h |
| 01:12.12 | brlcad | probably wants sys/types.h or somesuch |
| 01:12.56 | brlcad | alternatively, if you do a "man select", what are the #include line(s)? |
| 01:13.53 | rricardo23 | d... it!...lol |
| 01:14.08 | brlcad | ? |
| 01:15.15 | rricardo23 | '...#include <sys/types.h>, #include <sys/time.h>, #include <unistd.h> |
| 01:15.50 | brlcad | doesn't list sys/select.h ? |
| 01:16.31 | rricardo23 | no |
| 01:16.36 | brlcad | interesting |
| 01:16.51 | brlcad | grep HAVE_SYS_SELECT_H include/brlcad_config.h |
| 01:16.54 | rricardo23 | could it be the C-compiler version? |
| 01:17.14 | brlcad | nah, but it is related to the OS version |
| 01:17.27 | brlcad | and C library version |
| 01:18.07 | rricardo23 | '...no such file or directory...' |
| 01:18.33 | brlcad | er |
| 01:18.55 | brlcad | the include dir in your brlcad checkout |
| 01:20.26 | brlcad | it's there somewhere |
| 01:22.13 | rricardo23 | '...define HAVE_SYS_SELECT_H 1...' |
| 01:22.25 | brlcad | k, that's why |
| 01:22.25 | rricardo23 | ...#define... |
| 01:22.55 | rricardo23 | ?? |
| 01:23.05 | brlcad | try: make CPPFLAGS="-UHAVE_SYS_SELECT_H" |
| 01:23.14 | rricardo23 | k, wait..:-) |
| 01:23.41 | brlcad | if that doesn't work, will have to comment out a few lines in fb.h |
| 01:24.28 | rricardo23 | In file included from /usr/include/sys/select.h:40, |
| 01:24.29 | rricardo23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:24.29 | rricardo23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:24.29 | rricardo23 | In file included from ../../include/fb.h:40, |
| 01:24.29 | rricardo23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:24.29 | rricardo23 | In file included from fb_generic.c:56: |
| 01:24.31 | rricardo23 | ../../include/fb.h:233: syntax error before `*' |
| 01:24.34 | rricardo23 | ../../include/fb.h:233: warning: data definition has no type or storage class |
| 01:24.35 | rricardo23 | *** Error code 1 |
| 01:24.37 | rricardo23 | Stop in /usr/home/ricardo/brlcad/src/libfb. |
| 01:24.39 | rricardo23 | *** Error code 1 |
| 01:24.41 | rricardo23 | Stop in /usr/home/ricardo/brlcad/src/libfb. |
| 01:24.43 | rricardo23 | *** Error code 1 |
| 01:24.45 | rricardo23 | Stop in /usr/home/ricardo/brlcad/src. |
| 01:24.45 | brlcad | okay, so it didn't work |
| 01:24.47 | rricardo23 | *** Error code 1 |
| 01:24.49 | rricardo23 | :-( |
| 01:24.55 | brlcad | it's still that problem |
| 01:25.06 | rricardo23 | same 'ol... |
| 01:25.11 | brlcad | it's including sys/select.h, which doesn't have fd_set like it's supposed to on fbsd 4 |
| 01:25.18 | brlcad | edit include/fb.h |
| 01:25.37 | brlcad | at the top, it says "/* Needed for fd_set */ |
| 01:25.48 | rricardo23 | where do i find that file? is it under /brlcad?? |
| 01:25.57 | brlcad | before that line add: |
| 01:26.05 | brlcad | yeah, that's in brlcad/include |
| 01:26.09 | brlcad | in your checkout |
| 01:26.16 | brlcad | add: |
| 01:26.26 | brlcad | #include <sys/types.h> |
| 01:26.30 | brlcad | #include <sys/time.h> |
| 01:26.36 | brlcad | #include <unistd.h> |
| 01:26.46 | brlcad | that should do it |
| 01:28.23 | rricardo23 | sorry....i have no sys/select under include...:-( |
| 01:28.33 | brlcad | eh? |
| 01:28.40 | brlcad | no no |
| 01:28.49 | brlcad | edit brlcad/include/fb.h |
| 01:28.59 | brlcad | edit that file with a text editor |
| 01:29.09 | brlcad | add the three #include lines |
| 01:29.14 | rricardo23 | ok,ok |
| 01:29.19 | brlcad | before the line that says /* Needed for fd_set */ |
| 01:31.17 | rricardo23 | done |
| 01:31.29 | brlcad | now 'make |
| 01:31.34 | rricardo23 | k... |
| 01:31.54 | rricardo23 | source='fb_generic.c' object='libfb_la-fb_generic.lo' libtool=yes DEPDIR=.deps depmode=gcc /usr/local/bin/bash ../../misc/depcomp /usr/local/bin/bash ../../libtool --tag=CC --mode=compile gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include -I../../include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DIF_REMOTE -DIF_AB -DIF_X -DIF_OGL -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -g -c -o libfb_la-fb_generic.lo `test -f 'fb_gen |
| 01:31.55 | rricardo23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:31.55 | rricardo23 | In file included from /usr/include/sys/types.h:126, |
| 01:31.56 | rricardo23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:31.58 | rricardo23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:32.00 | rricardo23 | ../../include/machine.h:704: warning: this is the location of the previous definition |
| 01:32.02 | rricardo23 | In file included from fb_generic.c:56: |
| 01:32.04 | rricardo23 | ../../include/fb.h:38: sys.time.h: No such file or directory |
| 01:32.06 | rricardo23 | *** Error code 1 |
| 01:32.08 | rricardo23 | Stop in /usr/home/ricardo/brlcad/src/libfb. |
| 01:32.10 | rricardo23 | *** Error code 1 |
| 01:32.12 | rricardo23 | Stop in /usr/home/ricardo/brlcad/src/libfb. |
| 01:32.14 | rricardo23 | *** Error code 1 |
| 01:32.16 | rricardo23 | Stop in /usr/home/ricardo/brlcad/src. |
| 01:32.18 | rricardo23 | *** Error code 1 |
| 01:32.20 | rricardo23 | Stop in /usr/home/ricardo/brlcad. |
| 01:32.23 | brlcad | you wrote sys.time.h |
| 01:32.29 | brlcad | should be sys/time.h |
| 01:33.02 | rricardo23 | sorry.....syntax error...:-D |
| 01:33.16 | ``Erik | ahhh |
| 01:34.08 | rricardo23 | bunch of syntax errors now...:-( |
| 01:34.16 | rricardo23 | In file included from fbserv_obj.c:52: |
| 01:34.17 | rricardo23 | In file included from /usr/include/netinet/in.h:493, |
| 01:34.17 | rricardo23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:34.17 | rricardo23 | *** Error code 1 |
| 01:34.17 | rricardo23 | Stop in /usr/home/ricardo/brlcad/src/libfb. |
| 01:34.17 | rricardo23 | *** Error code 1 |
| 01:34.19 | rricardo23 | Stop in /usr/home/ricardo/brlcad/src/libfb. |
| 01:34.21 | rricardo23 | *** Error code 1 |
| 01:34.23 | rricardo23 | Stop in /usr/home/ricardo/brlcad/src. |
| 01:34.25 | rricardo23 | *** Error code 1 |
| 01:34.27 | rricardo23 | Stop in /usr/home/ricardo/brlcad. |
| 01:34.46 | ``Erik | no error listed... all that *** Error code and Stop in stuff is just noise, rricardo, please don't paste it |
| 01:35.13 | ``Erik | if we were to tell you a list of commands that would generate a file, do you have anywhere you can put that file, like a website? |
| 01:35.28 | rricardo23 | i could mail it |
| 01:35.40 | brlcad | what's the line before the "In file included from fbserv_obj.c:52" line? |
| 01:36.15 | ``Erik | sean, should we have him send you a `script` output? |
| 01:37.06 | brlcad | could, though we're making progress |
| 01:37.20 | ``Erik | okie, just lookin' for a cleaner quicker way :) |
| 01:37.33 | brlcad | it's past at least three problems so far, not the same ones |
| 01:37.46 | brlcad | quicker would be for me to log on and just fix it :) |
| 01:37.59 | rricardo23 | i'm doing a '....make > outout file..' but i don't see that line...sorry, kinda newbie to UNIX too...:-D |
| 01:38.00 | brlcad | undoubtedly a bunch of header/define junk |
| 01:38.12 | brlcad | rricardo23: you'd have to redirect stderr too |
| 01:38.13 | ``Erik | yeah, bsd5 shifted a lot of stuff around |
| 01:38.21 | brlcad | make > output 2>&1 |
| 01:38.24 | ``Erik | um |
| 01:38.30 | ``Erik | depends on the shell he's running, dude |
| 01:38.35 | rricardo23 | bash |
| 01:38.39 | ``Erik | okie, then it'll work |
| 01:38.40 | brlcad | nyah nyah |
| 01:38.59 | brlcad | only crazy people use that tcstuff |
| 01:39.01 | ``Erik | no nyahing when a blind assumption isn't wrong, beeyotch :D |
| 01:39.25 | brlcad | it wasn't blind |
| 01:39.26 | brlcad | it was quite educated |
| 01:39.26 | ``Erik | fbsd defaults to a reduced ksh variant |
| 01:39.26 | brlcad | even if a guess |
| 01:39.42 | ``Erik | which is why I wanna PUNCH RON IN THE HEAD when he writes bash scripts with #!/bin/sh instead of #!/usr/bin/env bash |
| 01:40.28 | brlcad | it's still supposed to be a posix compliant if it's /bin/sh (ksh, bash, sh, lots support) |
| 01:40.34 | ``Erik | it is |
| 01:40.37 | ``Erik | rons scripts are not |
| 01:40.41 | brlcad | just fix any bashisms them |
| 01:40.47 | rricardo23 | '...make > m1 2>&1...' ....ambigoues redirect...:-( |
| 01:40.52 | brlcad | hehe |
| 01:40.56 | brlcad | tcsh it is |
| 01:41.00 | ``Erik | are you sure you're running bash, rricardo? |
| 01:41.08 | rricardo23 | i AM! |
| 01:41.13 | brlcad | it's not bash |
| 01:41.20 | rricardo23 | :-( |
| 01:41.26 | ``Erik | echo $0 |
| 01:41.48 | ``Erik | erik@fenris ~$ echo $0 |
| 01:41.52 | ``Erik | /usr/local/bin/bash |
| 01:43.26 | rricardo23 | '...~$ echo $0...' <-- command not found |
| 01:43.36 | brlcad | hehe, beautiful |
| 01:43.50 | ``Erik | :o |
| 01:44.28 | brlcad | whereis echo |
| 01:44.35 | rricardo23 | '... :o ...' command not found.....hehe |
| 01:45.09 | ``Erik | if /bin isn't in the path... o.O |
| 01:45.36 | rricardo23 | '.../bin/echo /usr/share/man/man1/echo.1.gz /usr/src/bin/echo...' |
| 01:45.57 | brlcad | /bin/echo $SHELL |
| 01:46.28 | ``Erik | (or just type "bash" and hit enter, then you'll be in bash forizzy) |
| 01:46.46 | brlcad | (unless bash isn't even installed) |
| 01:47.00 | ``Erik | then it'll bitch and whine and be obvious |
| 01:47.08 | rricardo23 | '.../bin/echo/ $SHELL...' <--- /usr/local/bin/bash |
| 01:47.27 | brlcad | hmmm |
| 01:47.33 | ``Erik | what happened to bin/perf.sh ? |
| 01:47.43 | brlcad | i'm quite dubious of that bash |
| 01:47.52 | brlcad | perf.sh went poof |
| 01:47.53 | rricardo23 | f.y.i i'm running it as root (su) |
| 01:48.06 | ``Erik | hrmmm, how did you su? |
| 01:48.06 | brlcad | absorbed into the benchmark proper |
| 01:48.07 | rricardo23 | perf.sh went poof |
| 01:48.20 | ``Erik | did you do "su -"? |
| 01:48.25 | rricardo23 | just did su and enetred the psswrd |
| 01:48.43 | ``Erik | you're running reduced set posix sh, but your environment variables from your user were carried |
| 01:48.43 | rricardo23 | been doing it all as su...:-D |
| 01:48.58 | ``Erik | you might be better off getting it to compile as your mortal user |
| 01:49.15 | brlcad | > file 2>&1 is valid posix, unambiguous |
| 01:49.28 | rricardo23 | tryied it, but could CVS from my 'mortal' account |
| 01:49.37 | ``Erik | never worked in the reduced set posix complient mode of /bin/sh for me |
| 01:49.47 | rricardo23 | 'tried' |
| 01:50.05 | brlcad | rricardo23: how about make >& build.log |
| 01:50.20 | rricardo23 | i would try that as well.. |
| 01:51.07 | ``Erik | that should work |
| 01:51.22 | rricardo23 | brb.. |
| 01:54.03 | rricardo23 | ...rricardo is drinking Guiness...:-)... |
| 01:54.35 | rricardo23 | notin' happened with 'make >& buil.log'...:-( |
| 01:54.40 | brlcad | the only thing I can think regarding that redirection is that it's bash1 or something and being a bastage about where stdout is supposed to go |
| 01:54.40 | ``Erik | meh, left my last bottle at the gf's parents house |
| 01:54.53 | brlcad | like make 1> build.log 2>&1 |
| 01:55.03 | ``Erik | rricardo: it'll sit for a long time, then give you a prompt, then you'll have a file caleld buil.log with the output in it |
| 01:55.25 | ``Erik | sean, it's bsd's reduced ksh to fit strict posix, he su'd |
| 01:55.36 | rricardo23 | sorry brlcad....:-)...i'll tru that too. |
| 01:55.42 | ``Erik | and he didn't so something silly like ln -s /usr/local/bin/bash /bin/sh |
| 01:55.43 | ``Erik | ... |
| 01:55.44 | brlcad | i know, I'm saying that it is part of posix |
| 01:55.52 | ``Erik | izzit? |
| 01:56.06 | brlcad | fairly sure |
| 01:56.15 | ``Erik | I don't remember ksh and old bsh being able to do it, just bash |
| 01:56.17 | rricardo23 | nothing again.... |
| 01:56.34 | brlcad | rricardo23: it's not going to output anything, it all goes to the file |
| 01:56.36 | brlcad | cat build.log |
| 01:56.44 | rricardo23 | k... |
| 01:56.45 | brlcad | so if you got "nothing", it probably worked |
| 01:57.00 | brlcad | and it was just being a bastage |
| 01:57.44 | rricardo23 | syntax errors in that file...again...:-( |
| 01:58.10 | brlcad | [morrison@hole (Wed Dec 28 20:57:33) ~]$ bash --posix |
| 01:58.10 | brlcad | [morrison@hole (Wed Dec 28 20:57:35) ~]$ echo hello > file 2>&1 |
| 01:58.10 | brlcad | [morrison@hole (Wed Dec 28 20:57:46) ~]$ echo hello 1> file 2>&1 |
| 01:58.10 | brlcad | [morrison@hole (Wed Dec 28 20:57:50) ~]$ cat file |
| 01:58.10 | brlcad | hello |
| 01:58.41 | brlcad | rricardo23: send me the file |
| 01:58.47 | ``Erik | check it out, I got a sixpack of dogfish head last night |
| 01:58.58 | rricardo23 | k.... |
| 01:59.01 | ``Erik | brlcad@brlcad.org ? |
| 01:59.14 | ``Erik | (or dcc... heh) |
| 01:59.47 | ``Erik | I mean, uh, package at package dot org |
| 01:59.58 | ``Erik | (you don't have filters?) |
| 02:00.13 | ``Erik | I think I automagically throw away 400 a day |
| 02:00.35 | rricardo23 | sent... |
| 02:00.40 | brlcad | no sense encouraging it needlessly |
| 02:01.13 | ``Erik | true |
| 02:01.19 | rricardo23 | got it? |
| 02:01.27 | ``Erik | I'm tempted to write a revenge script |
| 02:02.11 | ``Erik | but the worm spammers would be innocent victems |
| 02:02.37 | brlcad | rricardo23: not yet |
| 02:04.22 | rricardo23 | sent it again... |
| 02:04.23 | ``Erik | how late ya staying tonight, sean? |
| 02:04.48 | brlcad | hopefully all night |
| 02:05.29 | ``Erik | doing a burn to get your hours up? |
| 02:05.46 | ``Erik | while you're in the office, why don't you... *duck* :) |
| 02:06.08 | ``Erik | ooh, and we're going to need you work sunday, toooo.... |
| 02:06.20 | brlcad | woo hoo! |
| 02:06.52 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/configure.ac: finish the sentence |
| 02:06.54 | ``Erik | heh, this lumbard moment has been brought to you buy the letters ... |
| 02:07.27 | ``Erik | vanna, kick the shit outta this boy |
| 02:07.36 | rricardo23 | should have it by now... |
| 02:11.00 | rricardo23 | ? |
| 02:11.19 | ``Erik | http://www.comet7.com/archive_page.php?id=4 |
| 02:13.42 | brlcad | rricardo23: got it |
| 02:14.22 | brlcad | rricardo23: remove the entire block below /*Needed for fd_set*/ in include/fb.h |
| 02:16.49 | rricardo23 | thanks for all you help guys |
| 02:18.46 | ``Erik | o.O |
| 02:19.38 | *** join/#brlcad ricardo (n=ricardo@adsl-11-158-24.mia.bellsouth.net) |
| 02:20.11 | brlcad | most folks just hang out in irc indefinitely ;) |
| 02:20.43 | ``Erik | I've heard rumor of secret horrible commands like "/part" and "/quit", but I've never been brave enough to quest for them |
| 02:20.56 | brlcad | like leaving an encylopedia next to your desk open |
| 02:21.25 | brlcad | an encylopedia that bickers, is inconsistent, and periodically whaps you over the head with itself |
| 02:21.30 | ``Erik | heh |
| 02:21.48 | ``Erik | open http://en.wikipedia.com/wiki, it's almost as horribly addictive as irc :) |
| 02:22.11 | brlcad | never been too addicted there |
| 02:22.26 | ``Erik | I've had fits that last days |
| 02:22.31 | brlcad | edited several pages, but only ones of specific interest |
| 02:22.44 | ricardo | it's as addictive as beer itself... |
| 02:22.46 | ``Erik | like the brlcad page? :) |
| 02:22.50 | brlcad | :) |
| 02:23.03 | brlcad | you should see how many permutations on the case I registered :) |
| 02:23.14 | brlcad | almost got them all before I got sidetracked onto something else |
| 02:23.18 | ``Erik | surprised you haven't crunched on arl an apg :) |
| 02:23.20 | ``Erik | case? |
| 02:23.32 | ``Erik | I looked at the h istory of the brlcad page and snickered |
| 02:23.39 | brlcad | BrlCAD, BrlCad, BRL-cad etc |
| 02:23.41 | ``Erik | you also did something on the muuss page, iirc? |
| 02:23.46 | brlcad | yeah |
| 02:26.42 | ``Erik | who's the copyright holder for that diagram? |
| 02:27.51 | ``Erik | also; a discrepency |
| 02:28.06 | ``Erik | the first m1 rolled off the assembly line in '78 |
| 02:28.13 | ``Erik | mike started brlcad on a dare in '79 |
| 02:28.29 | ``Erik | and it was the first time anyone had seen anything other than a drawing of the new design |
| 02:28.36 | ``Erik | ... |
| 02:29.48 | Twingy | ah, turns out the stock driver works with these cards |
| 02:29.57 | ``Erik | so you did something silly? |
| 02:30.03 | Twingy | huh? |
| 02:30.10 | Twingy | the new cards |
| 02:30.14 | ``Erik | oh |
| 02:30.18 | ``Erik | loan me the old ones |
| 02:30.22 | Twingy | okie |
| 02:32.41 | ``Erik | if I get my fbsd7 box working again, I'll try to get 'em working |
| 02:32.50 | ``Erik | you'll be in on the 3rd? |
| 02:33.29 | Twingy | I'm running on 6 out of the box |
| 02:33.35 | Twingy | afk, doing a fresh 6 install |
| 02:33.37 | ``Erik | cool |
| 02:33.55 | ``Erik | if I get the fix in 7, it'll probably be "mfc"d |
| 02:33.59 | ``Erik | into 6 and maybe 5 |
| 02:43.11 | brlcad | ``Erik: what's being called "brl-cad" and what was called the m1 varies |
| 02:44.34 | ``Erik | <-- just noted that the text seems to have a discrepency... knows very little of brlcad's history and pretty much nothing of the abrams history |
| 02:44.50 | brlcad | the first prototype rolled off late 70's |
| 02:44.58 | brlcad | it's not really a discrepancy, just lacking detail |
| 02:45.04 | ``Erik | okie |
| 02:45.05 | ``Erik | there ya go |
| 02:45.11 | ``Erik | if you know the detail |
| 02:45.17 | ``Erik | you have a DUTY TO SOCIETY |
| 02:45.18 | ``Erik | :D *duck* |
| 02:45.23 | brlcad | it's not wrong |
| 02:45.33 | brlcad | even if you're confused by it :) |
| 02:45.45 | ``Erik | <-- easily confused |
| 02:46.03 | ``Erik | "my mom says there's a lot of black people in china" |
| 02:46.10 | brlcad | some other guy added the bulk of that paragraph about the xm1 |
| 02:47.18 | brlcad | if you notice.. "first M1 rolled off the assembly line in 1978" .. "the first of these vehicles was delivered .. 1980" .. "XM1 was accepted for full production in February 1981" |
| 02:47.32 | ``Erik | heh |
| 02:47.42 | brlcad | so calling that first one the M1 is what could be confusing |
| 02:47.52 | brlcad | it was the M1, albeit really an early early XM1 prototype |
| 02:48.11 | brlcad | which is what Mike worked on visualizing |
| 02:48.41 | brlcad | lil ol' jove don't hurt nobody |
| 02:49.07 | brlcad | bleh, I wouldn't |
| 02:49.18 | brlcad | i hate external dependency hell |
| 02:49.35 | ``Erik | and, optimally, I'd like libtcl/libtk/itcl/itk/iwidgets to really disappear, giving way to ruby, python, or scheme |
| 02:49.39 | brlcad | i've come to appreciate the brl-cad way over the years |
| 02:49.43 | brlcad | especially when porting |
| 02:49.57 | brlcad | i don't need to get anything, and everything that thing needs, and everything it needs |
| 02:49.59 | ``Erik | brlcad has been pulled in and kept sane |
| 02:50.11 | ``Erik | when the approach is left to it's natural form |
| 02:50.16 | ``Erik | we get things like ajem and matrex |
| 02:50.19 | brlcad | it's fine for ports, apt, fink, portage, etc, but not outside that |
| 02:50.48 | ``Erik | any reasonably managed package system will cope |
| 02:50.55 | ``Erik | and reasonable os has a reasonable package system |
| 02:51.21 | ``Erik | even solaris and aix and redhat variants have some facility to cope |
| 02:51.23 | brlcad | that's a cop out for just pushing the work onto someone else |
| 02:51.27 | ``Erik | :) |
| 02:51.30 | brlcad | the package is meant to compile anywhere |
| 02:51.38 | brlcad | regardless of the warts of the system it |
| 02:51.39 | ``Erik | given certain constraints |
| 02:51.42 | brlcad | 's going on |
| 02:51.52 | ``Erik | like, say, posix support. |
| 02:51.54 | brlcad | bare minimum constraints |
| 02:52.01 | brlcad | even that is a real new one |
| 02:52.05 | ``Erik | it's not like I can put any of it on my palm |
| 02:52.09 | brlcad | used to just be a shell and a compiler |
| 02:52.18 | brlcad | didn't need net, didn't need sockets, .. |
| 02:52.35 | ``Erik | heh, it's still drawing a line somewhere |
| 02:52.40 | brlcad | actually, you could put it on your palm, why not? |
| 02:52.50 | brlcad | not the tcl bloat, but that's only a small part |
| 02:52.57 | ``Erik | um, no posix support? |
| 02:53.00 | ``Erik | no standard C support? |
| 02:53.14 | ``Erik | no concept of std{in|out|err} ? |
| 02:53.21 | brlcad | you can get a C compiler |
| 02:53.27 | ``Erik | I have a C compiler for palm |
| 02:53.31 | ``Erik | it doesn't have libc |
| 02:53.35 | ``Erik | ... |
| 02:53.50 | brlcad | then you're about where the vax was |
| 02:53.54 | ``Erik | it's actually a variant of gcc |
| 02:53.59 | ``Erik | it doesn't have vax funtions |
| 02:54.05 | ``Erik | it doesn't have the concept of a command line |
| 02:54.24 | ``Erik | it's more limited than DOS |
| 02:54.49 | brlcad | it could still be made to work, at least the old dm interface |
| 02:54.51 | ``Erik | it has a proprietary sdk and only works with that :) |
| 02:55.19 | ``Erik | the only programming I've really done on my palm has been using LispMe |
| 02:55.20 | ``Erik | heh |
| 02:55.27 | ``Erik | cuz the C is so... alien |
| 02:55.35 | brlcad | mged and rt have certainly run on hardware with less memory and cpu power |
| 02:55.49 | ``Erik | in past incarnations, sure |
| 02:55.56 | ``Erik | brb, more vodka... |
| 02:56.00 | brlcad | it's not that far frm past incarnations |
| 02:56.35 | brlcad | it wouldn't compile outright today, I"m sure -- it barely compiles on supposedly posix systems |
| 02:58.30 | brlcad | there are still plenty of systems that don't have reliable packaging systems or any packaging system at all, or they might have one that can't be used |
| 02:58.57 | brlcad | for whatever reason (and there are lots of possible reasons) |
| 02:59.06 | ``Erik | anyways, i'm an advocate for strong package systems and leveraging their capabilities, if an os doesn't provide solid package management, it's a bad os and should be scrubbed from existance or brough up to par |
| 02:59.26 | ``Erik | that's osX's big weakness |
| 02:59.35 | ``Erik | and one of the many suck points of winderz |
| 02:59.36 | ``Erik | :) |
| 02:59.36 | brlcad | it's not really difficult to suck in sources and only compile when needed, if there's a decent packaging system, great. all that's been wasted is a few bits of space. |
| 02:59.40 | ``Erik | <-- hops off his soapbox |
| 02:59.52 | ``Erik | dude, I've got religion on the issue |
| 02:59.56 | ``Erik | ... |
| 03:00.12 | brlcad | i can see that |
| 03:00.49 | brlcad | still not going to alienate 95+% of users just because their packaging system sucks |
| 03:00.51 | ``Erik | we all gotta have some aspect we're an idealist for, right? |
| 03:00.54 | ``Erik | hehehe |
| 03:01.02 | brlcad | there's better reasons than that to alienate them |
| 03:01.04 | ``Erik | how often do you run across a machine without zlib? |
| 03:01.13 | ``Erik | or libpng? |
| 03:01.16 | brlcad | heh |
| 03:01.23 | brlcad | mac os doesn't provide a libpng :) |
| 03:01.27 | ``Erik | how many people actually use jove? |
| 03:01.49 | brlcad | they have their own png part of the system quicktime libs |
| 03:02.17 | ``Erik | my contacts at apples os chunk have fled the company, otherwise, I'd be btiching them up and down right now |
| 03:02.53 | ``Erik | a couple of 'em seem to have disappeared o.O |
| 03:04.11 | ``Erik | so, yeah, vodka, heh |
| 03:04.31 | ``Erik | as long as we have disable knobs on stuff that isn't ours, I'll survive |
| 03:04.53 | brlcad | those knobs aren't going away |
| 03:05.11 | ``Erik | the libtk issue is my current primary concern |
| 03:06.05 | ``Erik | bezier can't be implemented in tcl ontop of tk? |
| 03:06.06 | brlcad | the one bit of code (the sketcher) that uses the tk bezier canvas is being rewritten |
| 03:06.12 | ``Erik | okie |
| 03:06.25 | brlcad | heh "in tcl ontop of tk"? |
| 03:06.43 | brlcad | it's a proper canvas |
| 03:06.46 | brlcad | it was done right |
| 03:06.59 | brlcad | just nobody willing to shovel it through acceptance |
| 03:07.13 | brlcad | TIP process is a pain |
| 03:07.16 | ``Erik | uhm, vodka talkin... :D there isn't a generic canvas in tk that you can write bezier curve functionality on top of, instead of implementing a new canvas? |
| 03:07.46 | brlcad | not really, without actually drawing to the canvas as well |
| 03:07.49 | brlcad | that'd be nasty |
| 03:08.08 | brlcad | worse than what we have now, slow as balls too |
| 03:08.09 | ``Erik | nasty code wise, or user experience (like performance) wise? |
| 03:08.20 | brlcad | code and performance |
| 03:08.30 | brlcad | you could make user experience "close" maybe |
| 03:08.45 | brlcad | regardless, don't matter too much if/when the replacement is finished |
| 03:08.57 | brlcad | jason's working on it as a prototype/test |
| 03:09.04 | ``Erik | hrm, since it has code fugliness, it might not be worth it no matter the |
| 03:09.05 | ``Erik | uh |
| 03:09.08 | ``Erik | vodka blank... |
| 03:09.18 | ``Erik | heh, use base |
| 03:09.48 | ``Erik | given jasons 'object broker' and 'expose' efforts in m3, I'm a bit scared of his stuff :( |
| 03:09.52 | brlcad | all your base are belong to vodka? |
| 03:09.58 | ``Erik | indeed |
| 03:10.39 | ``Erik | talking shop with him is great, the stuff he puts in the repo ... |
| 03:10.58 | ``Erik | (mebbe he was under pressure to over-abstract, I d'no...) |
| 03:11.40 | ``Erik | do ya play any blackjack? |
| 03:12.23 | brlcad | i've lost 4 figs playing, so i don't know if that could be considered playing or not |
| 03:13.01 | ``Erik | yesterday, I looked at some "programming exercises", one of them mentioned implementing blackjack... so I did a quick and dirty implementaton of a deck generation func, cutting func, semi-realistic shuffling func, and vegas rules 'hard 17' dealer func |
| 03:13.11 | ``Erik | tempted to make a full on blackjack video game |
| 03:13.34 | ``Erik | (all that shit I implemented... 44 lines of scheme) |
| 03:13.41 | brlcad | i did that several years ago myself |
| 03:13.50 | brlcad | (after loosing 4 figures) |
| 03:13.53 | ``Erik | all of it yesterday, cuz I didn't wanna look at my given task |
| 03:13.56 | ``Erik | heh |
| 03:14.12 | ``Erik | over how much time? |
| 03:14.13 | brlcad | had it learn how to play the game and a genetic algorithm to optimize game strategy |
| 03:14.17 | ``Erik | not all in one night, I hope |
| 03:14.26 | brlcad | couple nights |
| 03:14.37 | ``Erik | damn |
| 03:14.40 | brlcad | it played, and learned |
| 03:14.42 | ``Erik | <-- very not a gambler |
| 03:14.49 | brlcad | not as good as a brute force solution though |
| 03:15.05 | ``Erik | justin claims to have a method for roulette that puts him ahead |
| 03:15.20 | ``Erik | says he's succeeded in atlantic city |
| 03:15.40 | ``Erik | I'm just not down with the concept of gambling |
| 03:16.26 | brlcad | i'm down with it if i'm winning |
| 03:16.40 | ``Erik | heh, I'm a bit, um, risk adverse |
| 03:16.47 | ``Erik | hell, that's why I moved up here |
| 03:17.00 | ``Erik | "stable gov't job" |
| 03:17.04 | brlcad | of what? not stopping? |
| 03:17.08 | brlcad | ahh |
| 03:17.13 | brlcad | adverse to taking risk, heh |
| 03:18.07 | ``Erik | tho I took a mind-numbing risk a bit ago... heh |
| 03:20.40 | ``Erik | wee, more vodka |
| 03:40.31 | ``Erik | "and getting my snooch pounded every friday night" hehhehehee |
| 03:41.28 | ``Erik | southpark rocks |
| 03:50.58 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/include/fb.h: avoid including sys/select.h outright since it conflicts on some systems (e.g. fbsd4). would be good to decouple fb's interface from the fd_set struct since it's only used in one place |
| 03:53.23 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/archer/archer: add support to archer for running without necesssarily being installed yet |
| 05:07.03 | pra5ad | hrm |
| 05:12.04 | pra5ad | =( |
| 05:13.32 | brlcad | foiled |
| 05:15.38 | pra5ad | that's $80 dammit |
| 05:15.55 | pra5ad | wait i cant |
| 05:16.00 | pra5ad | cos im in pain |
| 05:17.06 | brlcad | mmm.. triceps today |
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| 08:03.52 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/archer/plugins/Makefile.am: missing utility.tcl, add maintainercleanfiles and the Makefile.defs include |
| 08:04.19 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/archer/ (4 files in 4 dirs): add the maintainercleanfiles sections, an rcs id, and the venerable Makefile.defs for consistency |
| 08:04.55 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/Makefile.am: ws |
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| 08:07.16 | mobilone | hello |
| 08:07.59 | brlcad | howdy |
| 08:13.40 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/libfb/if_ogl.c: copy some of the event/alive checking that was added to if_ogl_win32.c for the if_ogl.c interface too. |
| 08:16.39 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/libfb/if_remote.c: use the HAVE_NETINET_IN_H header define instead of !_WIN32 |
| 08:21.29 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/misc/win32-msvc7/Makefile.am: add an automake makefile for the new win32_msvc7 directory so that it will get included in source distributions, traverse through it even |
| 08:22.24 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/configure.ac: add an automake makefile for the new win32_msvc7 directory so that it will get included in source distributions, traverse through it even |
| 08:31.44 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/misc/win32-msvc7/ (47 files in 47 dirs): add the automake templates for all of the studio projects so that they are included in source distributions. |
| 08:35.51 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/misc/Makefile.am: traverse into the win32-msvc7 dir |
| 08:35.55 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/configure.ac: generate the Makefiles for all of the new win32_msvc7 project dirs |
| 08:45.40 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/NEWS: |
| 08:45.40 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: these need a LOT more detail, but it's something. new Archer modeling and |
| 08:45.40 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: visualization tool - Bob Parker, Doug Howard; extensive Windows build support |
| 08:45.40 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: enhancements - Bob Parker. this isn't close to a patch update, 7.7.0 it becomes |
| 08:47.12 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/ (README configure.ac include/config_win.h): next release is going to be 7.8.0 given all the major enhancements, so bump revision up to 7.7.0 |
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| 09:02.45 | brlcad | hmm |
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| 15:13.13 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/ (13 files in 13 dirs): missing the vers_win.c files for making source distributions that will compile on windows |
| 15:16.39 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/tclscripts/ (swidgets/.cvsignore sdialogs/.cvsignore): ignore generated tclIndex and pkgIndex.tcl scripts |
| 15:16.58 | clock_ | brlcad: hi |
| 15:17.06 | brlcad | howdy |
| 15:17.18 | clock_ | brlcad: yesterday I have first time on snowboard :D |
| 15:17.22 | clock_ | "" -> been |
| 15:17.27 | brlcad | excellent |
| 15:41.53 | brlcad | heh |
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| 20:08.16 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * 10brlcad/src/tclscripts/lib/Command.tcl: Utilize a slave interpreter for better command/script parsing. |
| 20:20.19 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * 10brlcad/src/tclscripts/archer/Archer.tcl: Add the "Compact" file menu item. |
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| 22:16.50 | pier | Hi everyone. I just compiled and tested ver 7.6.6. What are the most significant differences with respect to the 7.6.4? Thanks |
| 22:18.46 | brlcad | pier: did you see the NEWS file? |
| 22:19.03 | pier | sorry.. not yet |
| 22:19.17 | pier | OK I'll go have a look at it |
| 22:19.18 | brlcad | it should be installed |
| 22:19.38 | brlcad | in /usr/brlcad/share/brlcad/7.6.6/NEWS iirc |
| 22:20.02 | brlcad | or here: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/brlcad/brlcad/NEWS?rev=14.154&view=auto |
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| 22:21.16 | brlcad | howdy cad731 |
| 22:21.41 | Twingy | there's a bug in the wlan_wep kernel module |
| 22:23.02 | cad731 | hey |
| 22:23.10 | cad731 | small group |
| 22:23.19 | cad731 | what u using brl for? |
| 22:23.47 | Twingy | seaquest is the lamest show ever |
| 22:25.43 | pier | ok thanks |
| 22:26.56 | brlcad | cad731: lots of different interests, mostly geared for analysis, solid modeling, and raytracing |
| 22:28.55 | cad731 | tried Hammer / Source? I haven't used them or BRL-CAD. How are they different? |
| 22:29.05 | brlcad | there are folks here with other interest too, though -- drafting, machining, CAE, finite element analysis, .. |
| 22:29.19 | brlcad | never heard of hammer/source |
| 22:30.08 | cad731 | its for building geometry in games |
| 22:30.17 | cad731 | have a look at "applications of CSG" |
| 22:30.20 | cad731 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constructive_solid_geometry |
| 22:30.46 | cad731 | I'm working in advertising using 3D graphics |
| 22:32.07 | brlcad | ahh, heh, there's that interest in BRL-CAD too -- using it to make brl-cad the geometry modeler for bzflag :) |
| 22:32.34 | cad731 | bzflag uses it!!! haha, I played a bit |
| 22:32.45 | brlcad | it's under development |
| 22:32.54 | brlcad | there's some polish and more bridging needed still |
| 22:33.04 | brlcad | most bzflag models are still done by hand so far |
| 22:33.49 | brlcad | hehe |
| 22:34.23 | Twingy | having a file server that requires nothing more than a power cable rocks |
| 22:34.31 | cad731 | need to install linux, try out BRL |
| 22:34.41 | cad731 | anyone using cygwin and brl? |
| 22:34.58 | brlcad | i've compiled it before under cygwin a couple times |
| 22:35.02 | brlcad | a few users have too |
| 22:36.04 | cad731 | am I better off getting linux going |
| 22:36.14 | brlcad | probably |
| 22:36.30 | brlcad | at least that's what I'd recommend for reasons completely unrelated to brl-cad :) |
| 22:37.29 | cad731 | maybe I can wait until I get a laptop |
| 22:37.38 | cad731 | anyone messing with the source code? |
| 22:38.01 | cad731 | I'm interested in the CSG core |
| 22:38.01 | pier | I just got it compiled |
| 22:38.30 | pier | went smooth |
| 22:39.28 | cad731 | it's all C |
| 22:40.08 | cad731 | hehe |
| 22:41.10 | cad731 | I want to see the geometry editor, how primitives are arranged and grouped |
| 22:41.41 | cad731 | the screenshots aren't very informative |
| 22:41.54 | brlcad | http://brlcad.org/images/mged.jpg |
| 22:41.59 | cad731 | 19 developers.. are you one? |
| 22:42.37 | brlcad | http://ftp.brlcad.org/tmp/primitives/Primitives3_grouped_labels.png |
| 22:42.54 | cad731 | ahhhhh good stuff! |
| 22:42.55 | brlcad | yes, i'm the lead architect |
| 22:45.01 | cad731 | nice work! |
| 22:48.40 | cad731 | the primitives don't blend together like metaballs? |
| 22:53.17 | pier | brlcad, is it possible to get a tapered wing kind of solid? I didn't get it from man |
| 22:54.50 | brlcad | cad731: no, but it wouldn't be too hard to implement that if someone tried |
| 22:56.56 | brlcad | feature operations are generally implemented by hand via CSG explicitly right now, blending, fillets, chamfers, etc |
| 22:57.42 | cad731 | hmm, want to see it in action |
| 22:58.34 | brlcad | theres a rather extensive tutorial series on the website, including a comprehensive one on mged, the solid modeler |
| 22:59.47 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/TODO: windows branch is merged |
| 23:03.17 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/TODO: before next release: test intel compiler performance on Altix, add performance options |
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| 23:09.10 | cad731 | familiar with Bill Wyvill's work on soft objects? |
| 23:12.29 | cad731 | can I see how primitives are implemented? there's a lot of source! |
| 23:19.45 | brlcad | yep |
| 23:19.48 | brlcad | and yep |
| 23:20.36 | brlcad | look at src/librt/g_*.c |
| 23:20.48 | brlcad | each one is a different primitive |
| 23:21.39 | brlcad | g_ell.c is a relatively simple one to start with, ellipsoids |
| 23:21.51 | cad731 | far out |
| 23:23.01 | cad731 | blending is always an add-on feature |
| 23:23.10 | brlcad | making a new primitive is basically implementing the new g_whatever.c file, adding the primitive to a few tables, and providing a type-in interface for creating them |
| 23:23.36 | brlcad | blending itself could be implemented as a "primitive" in brl-cad methodology |
| 23:23.55 | brlcad | or as an operation akin to CSG operations |
| 23:24.18 | cad731 | my spheres/ellipsoids start using field functions.. soft object/metaball/blobby/inverse radius |
| 23:24.29 | brlcad | example, the "extrude" primitive takes a sketch and sweeps it linearly along a vector |
| 23:25.21 | brlcad | g_metaball.c where you define a set of points/radius, or maybe even any arbitrary primitive |
| 23:25.22 | cad731 | ahhhh.. u know the movie "Dark City" ??? |
| 23:25.39 | cad731 | think someone here wants that kind of effect, the stretching buildings |
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| 23:45.45 | brlcad | heh, igotbsd :) |
| 23:45.58 | igotbsd | hi everyone. hi brlcad, did you ever got the chance to look into my build.log file...<-- used to be rricardo on fbsd4.11 |
| 23:46.00 | brlcad | cad731: I think I saw it several years ago, don't really remember it |
| 23:46.32 | igotbsd | :-)...yes i got it |
