| 01:55.21 | Twingy | grizzly nailer is much better *grunt* |
| 02:56.02 | Twingy | Live is horribly gay band |
| 02:56.24 | Twingy | they should change their name to Xandir |
| 02:56.43 | Twingy | or.. Live action squirrel with big balls |
| 03:08.15 | brlcad | heh |
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| 04:08.11 | mahesh | Sean, had a question for you |
| 04:15.35 | brlcad | mahesh: fire away |
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| 04:50.32 | mahesh | Sean, you there? |
| 04:52.16 | brlcad | still here :) |
| 04:53.23 | mahesh | oh there you are |
| 04:54.00 | mahesh | had a question for you |
| 04:54.16 | brlcad | i'm always here in some form or another, best to just ask whatever question regardless :) i'll answer when you/I return |
| 04:54.29 | mahesh | ok |
| 04:55.45 | mahesh | the remote nodes after raytracing, return the application structure to the master node |
| 04:56.03 | mahesh | i am trying to do a view_pixel on that application structure |
| 04:56.25 | mahesh | but it is not showing up on the framebuffer |
| 04:57.01 | mahesh | i want to know, if the remote nodes have actually done the work (raytrace) |
| 04:57.16 | mahesh | is there a way to find out from any of the fields in that structure? |
| 04:57.26 | brlcad | a_color should be set |
| 04:57.29 | mahesh | like a_color or something? |
| 04:57.57 | mahesh | what could be the values of a_color[]? |
| 04:58.30 | brlcad | 1/1/1 if it "missed", something else otherwise |
| 04:59.34 | mahesh | ok....lemme print and check |
| 05:02.13 | brlcad | might be useful to raytrace a tiny picture like -s2 so you can test individual values |
| 05:03.05 | brlcad | fi, right-clicking the framebuffer will report the pixel value |
| 05:04.38 | mahesh | hmm...interesting. i am printing out individual values and they are all like 0.0000, 0.00000.0.39222 |
| 05:05.08 | mahesh | correction 0.00000, 0.00000, 0.003922 |
| 05:05.53 | brlcad | er, they are chars for starters :) |
| 05:06.00 | brlcad | not floats |
| 05:06.19 | mahesh | oh i tried without -s2 option |
| 05:07.54 | brlcad | and I misspoke, 0/0/1 if it misses |
| 05:08.05 | brlcad | which is what that value looks like |
| 05:08.23 | brlcad | s2 is just to set the image size to 2x2 |
| 05:08.29 | brlcad | instead of 512x512 |
| 05:08.53 | mahesh | so, there is definitely something wrong on the remote node end right? |
| 05:09.24 | brlcad | if it's not 0/0/1 on non-remote, then yeah :) |
| 05:10.07 | mahesh | well, i can see only half the image (that is work done by master node). The other half, the rmeote node should have done it |
| 05:10.28 | brlcad | should be able to turn on the ray-debug flag and see what the remote node is doing |
| 05:10.38 | brlcad | how are you setting up the application structure on the remote node? |
| 05:12.24 | mahesh | all the nodes have access to .g file |
| 05:12.31 | mahesh | all of them do rt_dirbuild |
| 05:12.53 | mahesh | then, only master does view_init |
| 05:13.21 | brlcad | they have access over nfs or you manually copy it? |
| 05:13.35 | brlcad | or program sends it maybe? |
| 05:13.47 | mahesh | as of now, i am simulating multiple nodes on single machine |
| 05:13.56 | brlcad | gotya |
| 05:14.45 | mahesh | then all of them call do_frame and inturn call do_run |
| 05:15.31 | brlcad | hmm |
| 05:15.37 | mahesh | there i call bu_distributed which is the function where nodes get chunks of pixels |
| 05:15.58 | brlcad | heh, cool |
| 05:16.06 | mahesh | and then they call mpi_worker |
| 05:16.09 | mahesh | similar to worker |
| 05:16.30 | mahesh | master node calls do_pixel |
| 05:16.37 | mahesh | other nodes return ap structure to master |
| 05:17.05 | mahesh | and master calls do_pixel on the received ap |
| 05:17.19 | mahesh | does it all make sense? |
| 05:17.25 | brlcad | yeah, i think so |
| 05:18.59 | brlcad | how are you managing the cpu resource structures? |
| 05:19.22 | mahesh | hmm....haven't touched them at all |
| 05:19.29 | brlcad | e.g. do_pixel() obtains the application structure from resource[cpu] |
| 05:20.06 | brlcad | so you would have had to copy it into resource[cpu] before do_pixel at least.. maybe earlier |
| 05:20.27 | brlcad | that would explain the black pixel "misses" |
| 05:21.32 | mahesh | remote node calls the same do_pixel function |
| 05:21.44 | mahesh | so is it not take care of |
| 05:21.48 | mahesh | may be i am missing something here |
| 05:23.03 | brlcad | as the rays are fired, the application structure is set with the details of each ray being fired |
| 05:23.31 | brlcad | that's what a_ray is in the structure |
| 05:24.56 | brlcad | so when it fires a run of pixels in do_run(), it ends up calling worker() |
| 05:25.11 | mahesh | right |
| 05:25.18 | brlcad | worker is like do_pixel(), it assumes that the application structure was stashed into resource[cpu] |
| 05:25.26 | brlcad | so that it knows where to shoot the ray |
| 05:25.33 | mahesh | oh i see |
| 05:25.42 | brlcad | it sounds like your remote nodes are actually shooting a ray successfully |
| 05:25.55 | brlcad | they are just shooting at "nothing" since they were never told in which direction |
| 05:26.03 | mahesh | oh i get it |
| 05:27.14 | mahesh | any clue what field needs to be fixed in my case? |
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| 05:27.21 | brlcad | for each pixel, a_ray is updated with the new ray direction and worker() does it's magic (calling do_pixel()) |
| 05:27.54 | brlcad | you said you have master calling view_init()? |
| 05:28.01 | mahesh | yeah |
| 05:28.16 | brlcad | what do the remote nodes do? how do they start up? |
| 05:29.15 | mahesh | at the end of do_pixel, master node does a view_pixel where as other nodes return application structure |
| 05:29.39 | brlcad | that's what the master does.. what do the remote ones do? :) |
| 05:29.40 | mahesh | in worker function, i store all these ap structures |
| 05:30.05 | mahesh | remote nodes return ap structure to worker function |
| 05:30.16 | mahesh | worker function stores them all in an array |
| 05:30.58 | mahesh | once worker function is complete, the remote node send the array of ap structures back to master |
| 05:31.51 | brlcad | heh, back up |
| 05:32.03 | brlcad | to the beginning.. before they return their ap structure |
| 05:32.10 | mahesh | ok |
| 05:32.13 | brlcad | what do they do from the beginning? |
| 05:32.41 | mahesh | shall i send you the worker.c file? |
| 05:33.06 | brlcad | eventually, but right now, just the general overview :) |
| 05:33.21 | mahesh | i thought we could both go over |
| 05:33.27 | pra5ad | my back.. |
| 05:33.28 | brlcad | ok |
| 05:34.42 | mahesh | sent |
| 05:35.21 | brlcad | in general, I believe what you're going to want to do with what you have is to have the master node send his application structure to the remote nodes (or maybe even just resource[cpu] where "cpu" is each remote node..not sure if that'll work) or maybe just the ray info |
| 05:35.44 | brlcad | and each remote node will take that ap structure or ray info and shoot the ray(s) |
| 05:36.24 | mahesh | hmm |
| 05:36.36 | brlcad | got it |
| 05:37.16 | mahesh | i can start from do_run or ? |
| 05:40.45 | brlcad | depends |
| 05:40.52 | brlcad | is this a single-processor machine? |
| 05:40.57 | mahesh | yeah |
| 05:41.23 | brlcad | and brl-cad was compiled non-parallel presumably.. |
| 05:41.39 | brlcad | i.e. your bu_distributed() in do_run() is actually getting called |
| 05:41.47 | mahesh | yeah |
| 05:45.28 | brlcad | see in do_pixel() where it calls rt_shootray(a)? |
| 05:45.51 | brlcad | that's where it fires the actual ray, passing the application structure that presumably was already filled in with the ray details |
| 05:46.14 | brlcad | do_pixel() presumes that resource[cpu] was already set to your application structure |
| 05:47.26 | brlcad | heh, yikes: struct application app[300000]; |
| 05:47.49 | mahesh | i know it is ugly :) |
| 05:48.11 | mahesh | i just wanted to get all of them working....so... |
| 05:48.45 | mahesh | so, you think resource[cpu] is not filled? |
| 05:49.00 | brlcad | not, positive |
| 05:49.11 | brlcad | actually, could simply be that application is never initialized |
| 05:49.18 | brlcad | i don't see that anywhere |
| 05:49.50 | brlcad | when rt starts, there is a global application structure that it uses/initializes |
| 05:49.58 | brlcad | the parent/master node initialized it |
| 05:49.59 | mahesh | right |
| 05:50.14 | brlcad | the parent needs to get that ap to the client to set his global |
| 05:50.29 | mahesh | where does the master initialize it? |
| 05:51.03 | brlcad | it's continually initialized as the raytrace proceeds |
| 05:51.47 | brlcad | if anything, should wait until after grid_setup() as that does initialize the ap structure |
| 05:51.58 | brlcad | which is in do_pixel .. |
| 05:52.11 | brlcad | so before bu_distributed, or inside bu_distributed |
| 05:53.02 | brlcad | yeah.. inside bu_distributed |
| 05:53.19 | brlcad | master should set ap to client, client should set his ap to what master sent |
| 05:53.55 | mahesh | before mpi_worker is called right? |
| 05:55.22 | brlcad | master sends before mpi_worker(), non-master sends ap structure back |
| 05:55.36 | brlcad | not just a_color (which would be have been ap.a_color, btw) |
| 05:55.45 | mahesh | got it |
| 05:56.17 | mahesh | but how about resource[cpu]? |
| 05:56.48 | brlcad | forget about it for now :) |
| 05:56.49 | Guu` | I've never heard of about it for now :), brlcad! |
| 05:57.00 | brlcad | you might even get it for free |
| 05:57.35 | brlcad | that makes sense now |
| 05:58.24 | brlcad | the local master has the ap structure, so his rt_shootray() is using the initialized one.. the remote nodes, however, are not so it's using them uninitialized and missing |
| 05:59.05 | brlcad | you're making great progress! :) |
| 05:59.19 | mahesh | making fun of me :) |
| 05:59.26 | brlcad | no seriously |
| 05:59.28 | brlcad | it's great |
| 05:59.46 | mahesh | thanks! |
| 05:59.54 | brlcad | you've had other stuff going on, i'm sure too |
| 06:00.02 | mahesh | yeah |
| 06:00.14 | brlcad | awesome to see code for it, and it's making sense so far |
| 06:01.20 | mahesh | once i see a full image on the screen, i will start playing with some ideas i have |
| 06:01.41 | brlcad | have you modified other files? |
| 06:01.42 | mahesh | hopefully, the code will be much more clean and robust |
| 06:01.45 | mahesh | yeah |
| 06:02.18 | mahesh | functions in view.c are called only my master |
| 06:02.23 | mahesh | i have changed that |
| 06:02.35 | mahesh | and small changes in do.c |
| 06:02.56 | mahesh | i think those are the only files i have changed (plus ofcourse main.c) |
| 06:33.04 | brlcad | well, i'm excited to hear that you've gotten it to render - keep an eye on transferring the ap structure |
| 06:33.07 | brlcad | you can "set" it once it's sent mby simply performing a struct copy |
| 06:33.26 | brlcad | or there are examples throughout the code that do the struct copy too, it's a one-liner |
| 06:34.40 | brlcad | alas, for now, I must zzz.. haven't in over 24 hours |
| 06:36.30 | mahesh | sure |
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| 11:23.18 | boemann | hi |
| 11:23.34 | boemann | what kind of widget toolkit does brlcad use? |
| 11:25.02 | boemann | and does a .deb exist? |
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| 12:00.50 | ``Erik | libtk and not that I've seen |
| 12:09.02 | boemann | ok thanks |
| 12:11.48 | ``Erik | tho someone was talking about making a deb not too long ago |
| 12:12.16 | boemann | it is listed as being worked on for the last 365 days :( |
| 12:17.07 | boemann | what is the shape of the code - i mean does it show it's age - is it object oriented? |
| 12:17.56 | boemann | mainly regarding rt and db |
| 12:19.46 | ``Erik | uh, it's C, rt is well encapsulated and kept up to date, and I kinda think it's better than most OO stuff |
| 12:20.21 | ``Erik | ancient cruft is culled on occasion, like all the k&r style is gone in favor of ansi style... o.O |
| 12:20.33 | boemann | well C doesn't mean it can't be OO ;) |
| 12:20.56 | boemann | in design that is |
| 12:20.59 | ``Erik | true, but then you leave the world of tightly defined oo, since C affords you far more flexability |
| 12:21.19 | ``Erik | the core of librt, as far as I understand, is a big honkin' struct with a couple callbacks in it |
| 12:21.37 | boemann | ok |
| 12:22.03 | boemann | how about opengl accel of the editor |
| 12:22.07 | ``Erik | but I have only a passing knowledge of those things... most of my involvement was rewriting the build system to use automake, so 99% of my job was 'does it compile?' |
| 12:22.19 | boemann | :) |
| 12:22.43 | ``Erik | yeah, it has that ability, provided the appropriate display manager is used and the X you're using has ogl all ready to go |
| 12:22.58 | boemann | good |
| 12:22.59 | ``Erik | heh, it might even still support irisgl, too :D |
| 12:23.12 | boemann | :) |
| 12:23.31 | boemann | i did some iris gl once |
| 12:25.52 | boemann | I'm considering joining in - though I'm not sure I wouldn't rather start from scratch with C++ |
| 12:26.39 | boemann | perhaps only make a C++ wrapper for the brl core |
| 12:26.53 | boemann | and then make my own editor |
| 12:28.33 | boemann | does brl support concurrent development from different workstations? |
| 12:29.09 | boemann | not development but work |
| 12:33.52 | ``Erik | um, multiple participants having the .g file open, you mean? |
| 12:34.48 | ``Erik | I BELIEVE the current technique for having several people working on the same model at the same time involves having the model broken into several pieces, the people work on their own piece, then they glue the pieces together at the end into the final output file |
| 12:35.03 | ``Erik | but I could be way off base with that, best to talk to brlcad when he wakes up |
| 12:40.18 | boemann | where do the majority of developers live? |
| 12:40.51 | ``Erik | uhm, maryland, usa, I'd imagine |
| 12:41.05 | ``Erik | but there are listed developers and many contributors all over the world o.O |
| 12:41.22 | ``Erik | iirc, there's been a recent surge of activity from someone in italy o.O |
| 12:42.10 | ``Erik | but I think most developers work for arl, formerly known as brl... :) |
| 12:43.11 | boemann | so there is real work going on |
| 12:43.33 | ``Erik | yeah |
| 12:43.38 | ``Erik | well |
| 12:43.49 | ``Erik | sean is supposed to be working on it... (he goes by brlcad here...) |
| 12:44.02 | boemann | nice to know - i don't want to involve myself in something dead |
| 12:44.21 | ``Erik | lee does stuff on occasion, and when I get the excuse/time, I make some fixes for the bsd's |
| 12:45.25 | ``Erik | I have to go to work, I'll be back in an hour if you have more questions... later :) |
| 12:45.37 | boemann | ok bye |
| 12:45.44 | boemann | i wont be here |
| 12:46.14 | boemann | thanks for all the help |
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| 18:01.35 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * 10brlcad/src/tclscripts/swidgets/scripts/tree.itk: Check-in for Doug Howard. Added a -sortmode option. |
| 18:02.12 | clock_ | brlcad: hi, I learnt riding buttonlift today :) |
| 18:19.20 | brlcad | ~buttonlift |
| 18:19.46 | brlcad | ah, heh, neat |
| 18:26.42 | ``Erik | skiing? |
| 18:47.22 | clock_ | ``Erik: snowboarding |
| 18:47.38 | clock_ | brlcad: I completed it 11 times! :) |
| 18:50.29 | clock_ | brlcad: are you going bodybuilding? |
| 18:50.57 | brlcad | working on it |
| 18:51.05 | brlcad | competition in a couple weeks |
| 18:51.47 | clock_ | brlcad: eee? Can I see your pictures? |
| 18:51.56 | brlcad | heh, I don't have any pics |
| 18:52.25 | clock_ | brlcad: what kind of competition? |
| 18:52.26 | brlcad | i'd need to trim down some more for pics |
| 18:52.35 | brlcad | lifting competition, bench |
| 18:52.54 | clock_ | brlcad: hey this is interesting. Those projects whose authors do sports tend to not have problems understanding their users |
| 18:53.20 | brlcad | heh |
| 18:53.39 | clock_ | like OpenBSD is cool they have good user manual, funny cartoons, first fixing bugs and only then doing features, caring about security, and Theo de Raadt is said to be always in the mountains :) |
| 18:54.02 | clock_ | brlcad: is it possible that iron turns into wood because of cosmic rays bombarding the atomic kernels inside? |
| 18:54.06 | ``Erik | theo's also a major asshole :D but on occasion, he's not TOTALLY full of shit... |
| 18:54.11 | ``Erik | at least, that's what I've heard |
| 18:54.40 | brlcad | i'm going to have to trim back on the lifting though, going to join the rowing team |
| 18:54.51 | clock_ | brlcad: I started with iron dumbell 10kg and it started feeling like wooden so I had to add some plates so now it reads 12.5kg but soon I got the same syndrome again |
| 18:54.59 | ``Erik | what rowing team? |
| 18:55.06 | clock_ | ``Erik: what does major asshole mean? |
| 18:55.09 | brlcad | baltimore has a team |
| 18:55.21 | ``Erik | funky |
| 18:55.28 | clock_ | actually what does asshole mean? I know it's the hole into the rectum but can't imagine which personality traits it's supposed to imply. |
| 18:55.41 | ``Erik | clock: an unpleasant person... |
| 18:55.51 | brlcad | clock_: what's your native language? :) |
| 18:55.58 | clock_ | brlcad: czech |
| 18:56.05 | clock_ | hehe :) |
| 18:56.16 | clock_ | brlcad: is it national competition where youre going? |
| 18:56.35 | ``Erik | translation table? o.O |
| 18:56.46 | brlcad | clock_: maybe that he's a "hovnohlava"? :) |
| 18:57.15 | brlcad | usually implies a bit of pretencious impatience |
| 18:57.50 | brlcad | ``Erik: multilingual swear list filtering system I wrote for bz has several dozen languages, swears and insults out the wazoo |
| 18:58.15 | clock_ | brlcad: hovnohlava doesn't mean anything in czech |
| 18:58.48 | clock_ | brlcad: we say "prijemnej jak osina v prdeli" - as pleasant as an wan in the ass |
| 18:58.53 | clock_ | wan -> awn |
| 18:59.20 | brlcad | clock_: maybe you could update my czech section then :) |
| 18:59.24 | brlcad | http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/bzflag/bzflag/misc/multilingualSwearList.txt?rev=HEAD |
| 18:59.37 | ``Erik | what about "pretentious arrogant bastard"? |
| 18:59.50 | clock_ | ``Erik: pretentious means that he's pretending things? |
| 18:59.59 | brlcad | can fill it in with whatever swear words you can think of :) .. but has to be not just rude but blatently insulting |
| 19:00.36 | ``Erik | http://m-w.com/dictionary/pretentious |
| 19:00.41 | clock_ | brlcad: what kind of competition are you engaging in? Are you a serious bodybuilder? |
| 19:00.55 | clock_ | brlcad: trim down == make the muscles more cut? |
| 19:01.03 | ``Erik | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=asshole |
| 19:01.39 | clock_ | pretentive impatient unpleasant person that's exactly me :) |
| 19:01.41 | ``Erik | hehehe, #2 :D do you know a jenna tools, sean? |
| 19:02.06 | clock_ | No, I won't update the filtering list, because that way I would work against myself ;-) |
| 19:02.25 | clock_ | but I am getting better in getting rid of these personality traits |
| 19:02.48 | clock_ | and I am erasing them in the brain and filling the gained space with skills like snowboarding and skateboarding ;-) |
| 19:03.17 | ``Erik | and running into trees and rocks and stuff are helping to knock them clean out of your skull? ;) *duck* |
| 19:03.46 | clock_ | ``Erik: I smashed my head once when they didn't have a helmet available in the renting - after that I bought my own helmet :) |
| 19:03.47 | ``Erik | adolph hitler is a swear? |
| 19:04.15 | clock_ | ``Erik: adolph hilter isn't anymore, he's dead |
| 19:04.23 | ``Erik | "bigbooty"? ... O.o |
| 19:04.43 | ``Erik | hey, what's wrong with buttface? |
| 19:04.44 | ``Erik | hehehe |
| 19:04.46 | clock_ | ``Erik: hey I saw shaun white |
| 19:05.24 | clock_ | ``Erik: what are you doing there in the USA so that you have so cute snowboarders? |
| 19:05.41 | ``Erik | they drink milk |
| 19:05.48 | ``Erik | it does a body good o.O |
| 19:06.41 | ``Erik | let us know how those tits fill out. |
| 19:06.57 | brlcad | jenna tools? |
| 19:06.59 | brlcad | nope |
| 19:07.31 | brlcad | clock_: trim down means get rid of some of my fat ;) |
| 19:08.10 | clock_ | brlcad: some news on brlcad? An integrated "warhead" command with syntax warhead <x> <y> <z> <yield> <length> that makes nuclear warhead design macro? |
| 19:08.19 | brlcad | clock_: aww, updating that list could be your contribution to the "clean" servers that try to impose their morality on other players :) |
| 19:08.33 | brlcad | that'd be just a few lines of tcl :) |
| 19:09.09 | clock_ | brlcad: how are you trimming down? Eating lots of little meals? |
| 19:09.26 | brlcad | drinking less beer |
| 19:09.32 | clock_ | hehe :) |
| 19:09.38 | brlcad | :) |
| 19:09.45 | clock_ | so it is probably not a world bodybuilding championship :) |
| 19:09.49 | brlcad | though today was a regression |
| 19:10.05 | brlcad | nah, not a major event, local event |
| 19:10.15 | brlcad | have to start somewhere |
| 19:11.14 | brlcad | ``Erik: surprisingly enough, that name is often more inciteful than most swears on some game servers |
| 19:11.36 | brlcad | some of the words in the massive english section could be removed |
| 19:12.02 | brlcad | the list was compiled from lots of sources and cleaned up |
| 19:12.54 | ``Erik | amusing reading :) |
| 20:23.41 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/mged/titles.c: mild sanity check, even if the directory pointer is valid, make sure the name is too before printfing |
| 20:24.32 | clock_ | "mild sanity" that's a beautiful term ;-) |
| 20:28.48 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/mged/ged.c: don't attempt to call do_titles() with an overlay_vls that hasn't been initialized. this 'also' fixes sf bug 1326045 that was fixed by another edit as well |
| 20:30.40 | brlcad | heh |
| 20:31.02 | clock_ | bug 1326045? |
| 20:31.25 | brlcad | yes? |
| 20:31.32 | brlcad | sf bug tracker ids |
| 20:31.48 | clock_ | if the price of brlcad was increased 1 dollar for every bug fixed then I am already a millionaire! :) |
| 20:31.49 | brlcad | your bug submission :) |
| 20:32.31 | clock_ | brlcad: my muscles get bigger from lifting weight, cannot this indicate some disease? :) |
| 20:34.13 | brlcad | a healty disease ;) |
| 20:34.53 | clock_ | brlcad: lifting weights and then going in front of a mirror is the cheapest way to get gay porn :) |
| 20:35.41 | brlcad | heh, I've never quite heard it put that way before |
| 20:35.49 | brlcad | self-indulgence |
| 20:35.51 | clock_ | or like the one with a god: |
| 20:36.04 | clock_ | can a bodybuilder's biceps grow so big that he cannot carry it anymore? |
| 20:36.24 | brlcad | probably :) |
| 20:37.11 | clock_ | brlcad: on Sunday I exceeded the critical mass of sport from which there is no return back ;-) |
| 20:37.51 | clock_ | brlcad: it's like a drug when I don't feel delayed onset muscle soreness my hands shake and I am nervous and I have to go doing some sport |
| 20:38.48 | brlcad | how about this: http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle.do?article=211hate |
| 20:41.02 | clock_ | brlcad: what's synthol? car brake fluid? |
| 20:42.52 | brlcad | steroid, i think |
| 20:47.55 | ``Erik | hah |
| 20:48.26 | clock_ | brlcad: that's 100% great :) |
| 20:50.19 | ``Erik | "posing oil" o.O |
| 20:50.57 | ``Erik | nasty, it's an oil compound that settles between muscle fibers, increasing size (but not strength) |
| 20:58.49 | clock_ | brlcad: are you bodybuilding to attract women or do you already have a wife? |
| 20:59.30 | clock_ | I wonder how the guy can bend his arms despite those basketballs |
| 20:59.40 | clock_ | it's like boobs on the wrong place |
| 21:00.47 | brlcad | clock_: I just workout to feel good, I enjoy it |
| 21:04.43 | clock_ | brlcad = mental workout ;-) |
| 21:04.49 | clock_ | brlcad: does your brain gain inches? :) |
| 21:06.49 | brlcad | i read research papers in my spare time, but I think my head leaks .. can't remember ;) |
| 21:11.25 | ``Erik | you have spare time? how'd you pull that one off? |
| 21:13.46 | brlcad | during commercials between episodes of stargate and bsg |
| 21:14.57 | ``Erik | heh |
| 21:22.03 | clock_ | brlcad: put your muscle photo on brlcad page with label "these muscles are very solidly modelled" |
| 21:24.30 | brlcad | heh |
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| 23:54.20 | ``Erik | hrm |