| 02:17.43 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/librt/wdb_obj.c: comments, remove dead new proc creation code (there's a func for that creating a wdbp function object) |
| 02:19.36 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/conv/g2asc.1: |
| 02:19.36 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: update the manpage with more up-to-date information and details. mention that |
| 02:19.36 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: current format is a tcl script, that the conversion to ascii isn't strictly |
| 02:19.36 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: necessary any longer since v5 format is portable, and that the ascii format |
| 02:19.36 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: should not be used by external codes. |
| 02:20.39 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/conv/dbupgrade.1: initial manual page for the dbupgrade command, basic usage info |
| 02:22.31 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/conv/asc2g.c: add support for carriage returns so old ascii files copied from windows parse correctly. use a little less emphatic emphasis on error (!!!) |
| 02:22.55 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/conv/dbupgrade.c: ws, indent |
| 02:23.23 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/conv/Makefile.am: add new dbupgrade.1 manpage |
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| 05:02.56 | digitalfredy | brlcad: hello |
| 06:26.49 | digitalfredy | brlcad: hello, i like to you see the docbook xml work for overview |
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| 08:25.28 | brlcad | ack |
| 08:25.49 | brlcad | he keeps picks horribly inconsistent times :) |
| 08:29.42 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/NEWS: |
| 08:29.42 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: fixed g2asc export of null units bug. there was a situation where the current |
| 08:29.42 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: units could not be determined and a (null) was export to the ascii file. this |
| 08:29.42 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: would halt an asc2g. if the units cannot be determined, they are not output |
| 08:29.42 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: (i.e. no (null)) now. |
| 08:31.39 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/NEWS: |
| 08:31.39 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: g2asc now saves additional _GLOBAL attribute values. previously, only the units |
| 08:31.39 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: and title were exported so that if a user had manually added additional |
| 08:31.39 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: attributes they were not being saved, now they are saved as attr commands in the |
| 08:31.39 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: ascii format. (a situation where this was important was where a 'disclaimer' |
| 08:31.42 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: and 'description' attribute were added in addition to the title. |
| 08:33.46 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/NEWS: |
| 08:33.46 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: g_diff reports more detail whether differences exist. if the external forms are |
| 08:33.46 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: being compared, it will report whether the lengths differ or the contents |
| 08:33.46 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: (previously was an unknown either/or difference). also g_diff will summarize |
| 08:33.46 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: and actually say that it found no differences instead of just ending a statement |
| 08:33.48 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: like there is something more like the following: |
| 08:36.08 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/NEWS: |
| 08:36.08 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: fixed g_diff attribute comparison issue. when doing a g_diff, attributes were |
| 08:36.09 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: not being compared in order if the db command fails to tclify the exported |
| 08:36.09 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: version resulting in a binary 'these objects seem to differ' when they did not. |
| 08:36.09 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: the tclification was improved so it can perform a proper ordered attribute |
| 08:36.11 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: comparison under more cases. |
| 08:38.05 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/NEWS: (log message trimmed) |
| 08:38.05 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: updated the g2asc manual page with format details. the manpage still talked |
| 08:38.05 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: about it being necessary for platform independent conversions, language and |
| 08:38.05 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: details were updated to note that this is no longer the case (that the binary |
| 08:38.05 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: will work just fine). also mentions that binary and ascii are open specs, |
| 08:38.08 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: though ascii is subject to deprecation change without notice whereas the binary |
| 08:38.10 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: is not. also that the ascii should not be relied upon by external developers but |
| 08:38.30 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/NEWS: added dbupgrade manual page. one didn't exist |
| 08:41.05 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/NEWS: |
| 08:41.05 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: fixed asc2g bug reading files with carriage returns. if you attempted to run |
| 08:41.05 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: asc2g on a .asc file that came directly from the windows platform and had |
| 08:41.05 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: embedded carriage returns ('\r'), it would incorrectly parse the v4 I units |
| 08:41.05 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: version string dumping out a wierd undecipherable overlapping error (printing |
| 08:41.07 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: the carriage return), now it handles them correctly. |
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| 13:49.49 | ``Erik | hm |
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| 14:50.46 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/NEWS: |
| 14:50.46 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: john continues on his dxf-g rampage with manpage enhancements and additional |
| 14:50.46 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: support to dxf-g for ELLIPSE entities. earlier he added support for LWPOLYLINE, |
| 14:50.46 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: MTEXT, LEADER, ATTRIB, SOLID, and ATTDEF entity states -- all grouped into one |
| 14:50.46 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: news entry for dxf-g enhancements. |
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| 16:52.53 | digitalfredy | brlcad: ping |
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| 16:56.27 | ``Erik | heh |
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| 17:05.37 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * 10brlcad/src/tclscripts/archer/GeometryEditFrame.tcl: Minor tweek to anchor the edit panel north |
| 17:07.09 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * 10brlcad/src/tclscripts/archer/CombEditFrame.tcl: Minor tweek to anchor the edit panel north |
| 17:11.37 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * 10brlcad/src/tclscripts/archer/Archer.tcl: Temporarily (i.e. until this functionality is available) removing the "Compact" menu item when viewing BRL-CAD geometry. Minor mods to reflect change in the tree widget. |
| 17:18.27 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * 10brlcad/src/tclscripts/swidgets/scripts/tree.itk: Check-in for Doug Howard. Mods to support multi-select and cut-n-paste. |
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| 17:28.10 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * 10brlcad/src/tclscripts/archer/images/Themes/ (9 files in 3 dirs): Add images to support future functionality (i.e. multi-select and cut-n-paste) |
| 17:30.04 | brlcad | digitalfredy: pong! |
| 17:30.09 | brlcad | been missing you all week |
| 17:30.12 | digitalfredy | hey |
| 17:30.32 | digitalfredy | i made the xml for overview |
| 17:30.43 | digitalfredy | are only one problem |
| 17:31.25 | digitalfredy | brlcad: |
| 17:31.27 | brlcad | excellent |
| 17:31.33 | digitalfredy | the problem is in the |
| 17:31.57 | digitalfredy | hoja de estilo but is not a big problem, fine |
| 17:32.28 | digitalfredy | brlcad: who is your mail for send you the xml and html |
| 17:33.32 | digitalfredy | and i was missing becouse i was sick |
| 17:33.41 | brlcad | te lo envie en un mensaje privado, lo tienes? |
| 17:34.35 | digitalfredy | brlcad: si |
| 17:35.07 | digitalfredy | brlcad: i made one book |
| 17:35.26 | digitalfredy | but i think to is best made a only one big book |
| 17:35.37 | brlcad | and the reasoning for that? :) |
| 17:36.26 | digitalfredy | wait a moment and send you a link for review a structure in other book as example |
| 17:38.14 | digitalfredy | brlcad: see http://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/index.html |
| 17:38.30 | brlcad | i was reading up last week on some work done with xinclude to get modular docbook files |
| 17:38.37 | digitalfredy | the preface is the overview |
| 17:38.48 | digitalfredy | and every part is a book |
| 17:38.56 | digitalfredy | and all is a big book |
| 17:39.41 | brlcad | ahh, that's better.. the "main book" is really a set of books yes? |
| 17:39.55 | brlcad | with a book for each 'part' of the set |
| 17:40.12 | digitalfredy | yes |
| 17:40.19 | digitalfredy | yes |
| 17:40.28 | brlcad | that approach sounds reasonable |
| 17:40.39 | brlcad | have you worked at all with Xinclude? |
| 17:40.44 | brlcad | (i haven't) |
| 17:41.09 | brlcad | speaking of which is referenced in that book: http://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/ModularDoc.html |
| 17:41.19 | digitalfredy | brlcad: in spanis, can understand |
| 17:41.56 | brlcad | pregunte si has usado Xinclude? (yo no..) |
| 17:42.14 | digitalfredy | no pero puedo revisarlo |
| 17:42.39 | brlcad | lo refiere en aquel libro aquĆ: http://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/ModularDoc.html |
| 17:45.12 | brlcad | eso te deja separar libros en secciones y usar los en diferente lugares manteniendo un archivo xml valido |
| 17:45.54 | brlcad | i'm just not sure whether it's really worth it or not.. i'll ask some of my other xml expert friends to see what they know ;) |
| 17:46.14 | digitalfredy | haaa si creo que se |
| 17:46.52 | digitalfredy | para crear por ejemplo un archivo con cada parte y luego en otro hacer el include de todos los archivos? |
| 17:55.32 | brlcad | si, pero sin usar entity references |
| 17:55.49 | brlcad | ahh.. xsltproc --xinclude.. excellent |
| 17:56.01 | brlcad | so that should be the way to go.. |
| 17:59.39 | digitalfredy | brlcad: cant understand well |
| 17:59.58 | digitalfredy | brlcad: esta es el camino a seguir o algo asi? |
| 18:05.57 | brlcad | si! |
| 18:06.10 | brlcad | sounds perfecto |
| 18:06.51 | digitalfredy | begin the big book? |
| 18:08.30 | brlcad | mirando lo que me enviaste.. un momento |
| 18:10.17 | brlcad | wow |
| 18:11.52 | brlcad | digitalfredy: me parece asombroso! |
| 18:11.59 | digitalfredy | brlcad: rewrite the overview like preface |
| 18:12.01 | brlcad | that looks great, really great |
| 18:12.02 | digitalfredy | yes? |
| 18:12.07 | digitalfredy | emacs |
| 18:12.11 | brlcad | :) |
| 18:12.14 | digitalfredy | i love emacs |
| 18:12.26 | brlcad | hehe |
| 18:12.36 | digitalfredy | fine |
| 18:12.54 | brlcad | seriously, that is like exactly what I was hoping for |
| 18:14.26 | brlcad | te puedo mandar los otros documentos grandes si quieres ya |
| 18:14.36 | digitalfredy | yes |
| 18:16.03 | digitalfredy | brlcad: who is the licence for the doc? |
| 18:16.13 | digitalfredy | for put it in the book |
| 18:16.48 | brlcad | all the new documentation is dual-licensed |
| 18:19.19 | brlcad | y eso quiere decir que el documentation esta cubrido por el GFDL o si quieren el GPL |
| 18:19.55 | brlcad | From BRL-CAD's COPYING file in CVS: |
| 18:19.59 | brlcad | Unless otherwise denoted, all of BRL-CAD's documentation is made |
| 18:19.59 | brlcad | available under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) |
| 18:19.59 | brlcad | or, at your option, under the terms of the GNU General Public License |
| 18:19.59 | brlcad | (GPL) as published by the Free Software Foundation. Several older |
| 18:19.59 | brlcad | documents (e.g. published by the U.S. Government prior to being |
| 18:20.02 | brlcad | released as Open Source) are in the public domain. |
| 18:20.28 | brlcad | el ultimo frase se puede eliminar para eso |
| 18:23.18 | digitalfredy | ok |
| 18:25.14 | digitalfredy | ``Erik: fine |
| 18:25.20 | digitalfredy | lesson 1 |
| 18:25.32 | digitalfredy | hello in spanish is hola |
| 18:25.39 | brlcad | the copyright, different from the license should probably be something to the effect of: |
| 18:25.43 | brlcad | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:25.45 | brlcad | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:25.46 | ``Erik | heh, I know that much :) |
| 18:25.54 | brlcad | and tequila |
| 18:25.58 | brlcad | means.. |
| 18:25.59 | brlcad | tequila |
| 18:26.00 | ``Erik | mmm tequila |
| 18:26.17 | ``Erik | mew-ee bway-no |
| 18:26.18 | ``Erik | I mean, uh |
| 18:26.19 | ``Erik | O:-) |
| 18:26.29 | digitalfredy | aguardiente :) |
| 18:26.40 | brlcad | jej |
| 18:28.50 | digitalfredy | brlcad: All Rights Reserved? |
| 18:29.14 | ``Erik | and post tequila, http://www.killsometime.com/pictures/Picture.asp?ID=246 |
| 18:33.21 | brlcad | digitalfredy: it's a standard disclaimer you find along with just about any english copyright -- authorship rights are explicitly desired instead of giving it away without any limitiation. |
| 18:33.52 | brlcad | that in turn is extended by the GFDL/GPL which say specifically what is given away under what restrictions |
| 18:34.35 | digitalfredy | yes some Rights Reserved |
| 18:34.56 | digitalfredy | no all |
| 18:36.07 | brlcad | it's not a contention point -- for the book, the phrase could probably be left out so long as it includes the COPYING details somewhere as well |
| 18:37.33 | brlcad | and still the original author does retain all rights -- recipients are bound by the license and copyright law |
| 18:37.59 | ``Erik | talked to a lawyer from the eff to see if it was good that way (since they have a "nomodification" policy, they wanted a copy of the tex file for re-use and asked it to be put under their doc license, heh |
| 18:38.01 | ``Erik | ) |
| 18:38.42 | brlcad | they wanted the tex-formatted gpl language provided under the gfdl? |
| 18:38.49 | brlcad | that's funny |
| 18:39.17 | digitalfredy | brlcad: i thik to cc is best licences for documentation |
| 18:39.55 | digitalfredy | but no problem first the first |
| 18:40.01 | digitalfredy | first put the doc in docbook |
| 18:40.02 | brlcad | what benefits does it provide over the current dual-license? :) |
| 18:40.39 | ``Erik | http://explorerdestroyer.com/ o.O |
| 18:40.54 | brlcad | i don't have religion on it, i frankly don't care a whole lot about the license on the docs -- it's hard enough to find people that are willing to work on documentation, let alone argue on how free to make the docs ;) |
| 18:41.31 | brlcad | i'd just as likely make all the docs public domain or CC as the current gpl/gfdl |
| 18:46.17 | digitalfredy | brlcad: i have to go, speack after |
| 18:46.36 | brlcad | sounds great.. i'll send you the docs |
| 18:47.00 | brlcad | thanks for working on the docs.. very cool |
| 18:47.15 | brlcad | i'll have to get your name and contact details at some point for announcements |
| 18:47.21 | brlcad | and credits |
| 18:47.26 | digitalfredy | ok |
| 18:47.42 | digitalfredy | i send you a mail |