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| 15:51.31 | Servo888 | Such a channel does exist... |
| 15:57.31 | brlcad | heh |
| 15:58.33 | brlcad | not only does it exist, it's the primary or at least preferred dev forum |
| 15:58.42 | Servo888 | yah - I didn't know there were any 'developed' 3d cad programs for linux... |
| 15:58.55 | Servo888 | I'm building it now to see what this is all about |
| 16:01.04 | brlcad | yeah, brl-cad is the only solid modeling system in production-use available as open source |
| 16:02.43 | brlcad | there are modelers, some decent renderers, but no cad systems that aren't in their infancy or are academic pet projects, etc |
| 16:31.28 | brlcad | ~spell tessellation |
| 16:33.21 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/NEWS: s/tesselation/tessellation/ typo. add emphasis to the extent of John's dxf importer enhancements |
| 16:35.05 | Servo888 | Have a quick question... I just finished building brlcad, but can't find the executable... It should be /usr/brlcad/x86_64 - but it's empty. |
| 16:35.39 | brlcad | what steps did you take? |
| 16:35.56 | Servo888 | I grabbed a tar ball from sourceforge... |
| 16:35.59 | Servo888 | the ran ./configure |
| 16:36.02 | ``Erik | dagnabbit, stupid car |
| 16:36.03 | Servo888 | and make / make install |
| 16:36.13 | brlcad | there's also not a single exec, there are hundreds.. :) |
| 16:36.15 | Servo888 | You know - I didn't use --prefix= though |
| 16:36.27 | Servo888 | Well the bin directory is full of them. |
| 16:36.29 | brlcad | if you didn't use prefix, it should be just /usr/brlcad |
| 16:36.45 | brlcad | what's in /usr/brlcad? |
| 16:36.45 | Servo888 | yah it's there |
| 16:36.52 | Servo888 | bin include lib man share |
| 16:36.56 | brlcad | ah |
| 16:37.03 | brlcad | ls -la /usr/brlcad/bin |
| 16:37.27 | brlcad | should see lots of apps |
| 16:37.33 | Servo888 | yah lots |
| 16:37.34 | brlcad | 406 or so |
| 16:37.45 | brlcad | add /usr/brlcad/bin to your path |
| 16:37.59 | brlcad | if you want a good place to start, most start with the GUI modeler |
| 16:38.10 | brlcad | it's called 'mged' |
| 16:38.27 | Servo888 | yah gui modeler is fine - but mged is not there. |
| 16:38.45 | brlcad | ls -al /usr/brlcad/bin/mged ? |
| 16:39.08 | Servo888 | hmm wait it's there |
| 16:39.15 | Servo888 | one sec |
| 16:39.19 | brlcad | have to add /usr/brlcad/bin to your path :) |
| 16:39.29 | brlcad | export PATH=/usr/brlcad/bin:$PATH if you use bash |
| 16:39.33 | Servo888 | ok |
| 16:39.49 | ``Erik | any old posix style shell, actually... bsh, ash, ksh, pdksh, ... |
| 16:39.50 | Servo888 | Ok there we go |
| 16:40.05 | brlcad | mged is not designed to be discoverable so you know, it requires training |
| 16:40.16 | ``Erik | sean, fix libbu on amd64/fbsd. |
| 16:40.19 | brlcad | there is pretty extensive documentation on the website: http://brlcad.org |
| 16:40.34 | Servo888 | Yah I found that - I'll go through it. |
| 16:40.35 | brlcad | ``Erik: what part? |
| 16:40.36 | ``Erik | bitv is all whacked out |
| 16:40.53 | ``Erik | rt havoc and it seg's, optimized or not |
| 16:41.20 | ``Erik | (I think it's bitv, it thrashes the stack a little) |
| 16:42.32 | brlcad | I debugged stack stomping on amd64/fbsd a year ago and all fingers pointed at a thread library bug |
| 16:42.43 | brlcad | there was a fbsd bug trail about it too |
| 16:42.55 | ``Erik | hrm, yeah, uhm, kse? or thr? |
| 16:43.04 | brlcad | thr iirc |
| 16:43.14 | ``Erik | did you try kse? |
| 16:43.18 | brlcad | nope |
| 16:43.26 | ``Erik | at the office? |
| 16:43.28 | ``Erik | <-- is rdo today |
| 16:43.45 | brlcad | in fact, I think the build will default to -pthread still too |
| 16:43.58 | brlcad | though it can be trivially overridden |
| 16:44.11 | ``Erik | meh, -pthread is old, died during the 5 run iirc |
| 16:44.14 | ``Erik | mebbe at 50 |
| 16:44.43 | brlcad | my 5.2 still needs it |
| 16:44.58 | ``Erik | fbsd can do runtime lib remapping, check out /etc/libmap.conf and man libmap.conf |
| 16:45.14 | ``Erik | ok, mebbe it was 53 or 54 *shrug* I don't recall :) I've been 6 and 7 for a while now |
| 16:45.40 | brlcad | i was actually hoping the problem would just go away with a upgrade to 6, which i think Twingy did |
| 16:46.12 | ``Erik | 6.0 stable is what I'm seeing it on (and I did that to that machine), I intend to upgrade 'em all to 61 very soon |
| 16:46.12 | ``Erik | like this week |
| 16:46.20 | ``Erik | I have a couple already on 6.1 |
| 16:46.21 | brlcad | regardless, -pthread still just picks up thr on the newer systems iirc, no? |
| 16:46.54 | ``Erik | um, it picks up pthread, which is mapped... mebbe thr, mebbe kse, mebbe old userland crap, I d'no |
| 16:47.10 | brlcad | by default, I think it's thr |
| 16:47.44 | brlcad | yeah, set to libthr |
| 16:48.03 | ``Erik | anywho, THAT machine seg's on the bitv stuff, which makes the meat&potatoes crap we do not work on the other machine, which means we can't be pushing the diskless cluster approach at this moment |
| 16:48.30 | ``Erik | and I want the donut eaters using the cluster, darnit :D |
| 16:49.40 | ``Erik | mebbe I'll explore that tomorrow :-/ |
| 16:49.41 | brlcad | it very well could be that there is some obscure bug being provoked, but it did look entirely threading related last time I tried debugging it |
| 16:49.52 | brlcad | and gdb was being a bitch |
| 16:50.00 | brlcad | crashed a lot |
| 16:50.23 | ``Erik | are you gonna be in office tomorrow? |
| 16:51.31 | ``Erik | or available via irc? I might have some stupid "how do I run rt like X" questions :D |
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| 17:09.22 | brlcad | i'm always on irc :P |
| 17:10.35 | brlcad | ``Erik: a first easy test is to compile the entire package with parallelism disabled, set -UPARALLEL or edit include/machine.h |
| 17:10.52 | brlcad | to see if it's even threading provoked |
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| 17:56.44 | ar3a51 | Hi |
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| 18:00.27 | ar3a51 | sbd here? |
| 18:19.03 | brlcad | heh |
| 18:19.41 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/libbu/color.c: duplicate defines for RED/GRN/BLU |
| 18:22.23 | brlcad | ibot: onjoin ar3a51 ar3a51: you have to wait more than a minute if you expect/want anyone to answer you.. |
| 18:22.23 | ibot | brlcad: ok |
| 18:43.20 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/configure.ac: typo, should have been profile not debug -- logic is still wrong though, needs to be redone for --enable-profile |
| 18:53.09 | pier | brlcad: Phew! Capther 3 done.. Don't call me lazy :) as I've been very busy lately. Deserve a good supper now. |
| 18:53.56 | brlcad | pier: hehehe |
| 18:54.01 | brlcad | I'd do no such thing! |
| 18:54.16 | brlcad | that's a major effort, I'll be making lots of noise about it :) |
| 19:01.52 | ``Erik | given that it's a volunteer effort, anything at all you do is well above and beyond the normal mere mortal. :) |
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| 19:54.30 | pier | Ciao a tutti... nite! |
| 20:03.01 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/mged/cmd.c: jim monte noticed that using a vls here was unnecessary for the Tcl_LinkVar'ing of glob_compat_mode and output_as_return |
| 20:19.49 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/ (5 files in 2 dirs): ugh, removed horrible usage of vls strings for things that can just be string constants. also takes care of a memory leak as the vls was never released. thanks to jim monte for noticing the problem. |
| 22:55.05 | ``Erik | "we're doing a gig tonight to benefit the victems of last nights gig" |
| 23:18.13 | pra5ad | mmm fat refund from uncle sam |
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