| 00:07.37 | IriX64 | time to bring up RedHat 6.0. |
| 00:09.04 | Twingy | that reminds me |
| 00:09.15 | Twingy | I need to install linux |
| 00:09.32 | ``Erik | last rhat I installed by choice was 4.2 |
| 00:09.54 | ``Erik | :/ |
| 00:10.05 | ``Erik | which breed, justin? debian? gentoo? |
| 00:10.20 | ``Erik | ubuntu seemed extremely developer unfreindly on the lappie alexis had |
| 00:10.25 | Twingy | last redhat I installed by choice was 2.0, 4.0, 4.1, 4.2, 5.0, 5.1, 5.2, 6.0, 6.1, 6.2, 7.0, 7.1, 8.0, 9.0, RHEL 3 |
| 00:10.36 | IriX64 | hahaha |
| 00:10.48 | ``Erik | that's more than the last |
| 00:10.54 | Twingy | no no |
| 00:10.58 | Twingy | I installed them all at once |
| 00:11.01 | ``Erik | :o |
| 00:11.08 | IriX64 | gotta find an easy way to copy files from win to redhat. |
| 00:11.11 | ``Erik | um |
| 00:11.17 | ``Erik | in linux... mount the windows drive... |
| 00:11.18 | ``Erik | and |
| 00:11.18 | IriX64 | so you got an aggregate system? |
| 00:11.20 | ``Erik | copy them... |
| 00:11.40 | IriX64 | doh file systems don't match. |
| 00:11.46 | ``Erik | eh? |
| 00:11.54 | IriX64 | think vmware. |
| 00:12.01 | ``Erik | so, uh |
| 00:12.09 | ``Erik | look at the disk image windows is running on |
| 00:12.15 | ``Erik | and do a loopback device attach |
| 00:12.16 | ``Erik | ... |
| 00:12.27 | IriX64 | its the other way around |
| 00:12.37 | IriX64 | redhat is the guest. |
| 00:12.44 | IriX64 | whoa... |
| 00:13.43 | IriX64 | last file i transferred i burnt onto a cd but that gets real expensive real fast. hold ive got an erasbel here somewhere. |
| 00:13.51 | IriX64 | just a sec. |
| 00:14.12 | dtidrow | cd's are expensive?????? |
| 00:15.17 | dtidrow | well, if you use a lot, I suppose |
| 00:16.12 | Twingy | so you did install vmware like I suggested |
| 00:16.32 | IriX64 | yes, beautiful, except i farked up and installed server. |
| 00:17.00 | IriX64 | brb |
| 00:21.16 | ``Erik | if the guest rhat has network access, you should be able to drop samba on it and talk via winderz network shares |
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| 00:36.59 | ``Erik | swank, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VAX mentions brlcad :) |
| 00:37.50 | ``Erik | ah |
| 00:37.55 | ``Erik | and sean is to blame, hah |
| 00:46.43 | brlcad | ahh, yeppers |
| 00:47.10 | brlcad | hey, anyone got a sec to comment on a diagram? |
| 00:49.53 | brlcad | http://ftp.brlcad.org/tmp/CAD_Diagram.pdf |
| 00:53.28 | brlcad | the overlaps and ratios are mostly all quite intentional/deliberate, though still a very rough stab -- needs a lot more detail me thinks mebbie, perhaps expanding the acronyms |
| 01:09.54 | Twingy | throw in a couple backronyms and recursonyms for good measure. |
| 01:16.53 | Maloeran | That's one elaborate and clear diagram. It's intended for managers, right? :) |
| 01:17.34 | ``Erik | there're "letters", no mgr would feel comfortable with that on the screen |
| 01:17.42 | ``Erik | letters go by bullets on powerpoint slides, that's it |
| 01:30.20 | brlcad | Maloeran: uh, lets just say it's intended to explain how brl-cad "fits in" on the highest level |
| 01:30.23 | brlcad | ;) |
| 01:32.10 | Twingy | DEY TUK R' JBS! |
| 02:10.17 | Maloeran | It seems rather painful to make much sense out of this, but maybe that's not the intended purpose... |
| 02:15.43 | brlcad | i don't mind painful as long as sense *can* be made out of it. if people have to use a few neurons to understand it then that's fine.. if something is really confusing, then that would be a problem |
| 02:15.59 | brlcad | it is a little too busy, too many heavy lines.. /me tones some of them down |
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| 02:47.06 | IriX64 | irssi compiled in the virtual machine :) |
| 02:47.33 | IriX64 | tempted to try brlcad. |
| 02:54.43 | IriX64 | thought you were threatning me for a moment :) |
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| 04:11.51 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03lbutler * 10brlcad/misc/ (doxygen_structure Doxyfile): |
| 04:11.51 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: New doxygen configuration file Doxyfile. The doxygen_structure file defines |
| 04:11.51 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: the layout of the heirarchy of the doxygen document |
| 04:38.35 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03lbutler * 10brlcad/src/librt/memalloc.c: annotate malloc entries so that we know where the allocation took place |
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| 05:49.12 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03lbutler * 10brlcad/src/librt/db_lookup.c: added BU_FLSTR to malloc/free to help track down memory creation/leaks |
| 05:51.09 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03lbutler * 10brlcad/src/libbu/ (21 files): Mostly doxygen formatting. |
| 05:53.26 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03lbutler * 10brlcad/misc/ (Doxyfile doxygen_structure): Added to structure. Changed Doxyfile to put html output in subdirectory of misc instead of in my Mac's Sites directory. |
| 05:54.51 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03lbutler * 10brlcad/Makefile.am: added target for producing doxygen run |
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| 07:24.02 | Maloeran | Erik, any idea of where I should or will find Lee's code to read BRL-CAD geometry? Seems simple enough, but I would rather work from the code he already wrote |
| 07:30.37 | Maloeran | And I don't think the cathedral/galleon modeller ever received an email for some reason o.O |
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| 14:41.01 | ``Erik | mal: I'll go ask him, uh, right now |
| 15:27.23 | Maloeran | Thanks Erik, I'm supposed to do that before September 1 :} |
| 18:39.26 | brlcad | i like deadlines |
| 18:39.37 | brlcad | especially the *whooshing* sound as they pass by |
| 18:42.53 | dtidrow | rofl |
| 18:47.51 | ``Erik | meh, it's not a deadline, it's a 'milestone' |
| 18:57.14 | ``Erik | alexis: context.c:141: warning: implicit declaration of function `_rtDestroyContext' |
| 18:57.47 | ``Erik | putting an underscore infront of symbols is A Bad Thing(tm) on several os's |
| 19:05.26 | Maloeran | Is it? It was to differentiate between functions exported in the dlopen'ed library, the underscore marked functions not meant for "public" use but for the wrapper |
| 19:06.02 | Maloeran | So Erik, can I find Lee's code somewhere? |
| 19:11.02 | ``Erik | mal: would putting "static" infront of the symbol be adequate? :) linkers often prefix symbols with one or two underscores and treat the number of leading underscores as a meaningful thing... |
| 19:11.05 | ``Erik | he said he'd commit it |
| 19:11.15 | ``Erik | we got access to the repo sorted out on our side today... |
| 19:11.18 | ``Erik | I'll go prod him, brb |
| 19:14.35 | ``Erik | he'll commit what he has, says he'll finish it this evening, and apologizes for how long it's taken |
| 19:15.02 | ``Erik | (btw, the platform your shtuff failed on was fbsd/amd64) |
| 19:15.52 | Maloeran | I just tried your autoreconf stuff here at home and it broke as well, but I think my tools are outdated |
| 19:16.13 | ``Erik | automake 1.9 and autoconf 2.59 is what I write for |
| 19:16.31 | ``Erik | it SHOULD work with automaek 1.6 and autoconf 2.53 |
| 19:16.47 | ``Erik | it should not with automake 1.4 and autoconf 2.13, much has changed since those dark days |
| 19:17.18 | Maloeran | Okay I got that, it still failed though |
| 19:18.39 | Maloeran | http://rafb.net/paste/results/sgQRrp53.html |
| 19:22.12 | ``Erik | autoreconf -vi |
| 19:23.03 | Maloeran | Ah right, thanks. I'll learn this stuff eventually.. :) |
| 19:23.11 | ``Erik | <-- points at the errors from l ines 25 to 32 |
| 19:23.48 | ``Erik | lee is committing right now, btw |
| 19:24.55 | Maloeran | Good, thanks |
| 19:25.32 | ``Erik | eh, that buttmonkey used a straight makefile and hardcoded brlcad's path |
| 19:26.26 | Maloeran | That's stuff I know how to work with, fine with me :) |
| 19:27.12 | brlcad | i think he still doesn't know how automake/autoconf work yet really |
| 19:29.05 | brlcad | i'm just wondering how many times erik will have to see autoreconf "not work by default" before you see the utility of the script :) |
| 19:30.11 | ``Erik | I see the utility, it's dandy for people who have no clue what they're doing *shrug* :) |
| 19:30.20 | brlcad | i've yet to see a new autotools user not hit the same half-dozen basic errors.. and they're completely stupid ones imho, usually buried deep in useless verbose output |
| 19:31.09 | brlcad | even for folks that have a clue, it just hides the stupid gnu folks idiotic tendancies |
| 19:31.18 | brlcad | s/tendancies/religion/ |
| 19:31.44 | ValarQ | ALL HAIL Bob Dobs! |
| 19:33.52 | ValarQ | "thou shalt"? |
| 19:36.42 | brlcad | too long to get into, i left my soap box at home |
| 19:37.32 | brlcad | but a limited few gnu folks are rather opinionated (especially the autotools folks) on how thou shalt use their tools in ways that are counterproductive and unreasonable really |
| 19:38.31 | brlcad | i'm apparently in the minority (with respect to their religion) of liking things to work by default and not distributing burden unnecessarily |
| 19:39.07 | ValarQ | ok, i must confess i havent rolled that many autotools packages myself, only a few smaller things |
| 19:40.32 | ``Erik | if it was hard to write, it should be hard to use! :D |
| 19:40.38 | ValarQ | hah |
| 19:53.57 | IriX64 | try working with AM_PATH_SDL not found in library. |
| 19:54.52 | ValarQ | hmm |
| 20:05.47 | ``Erik | alexis: do another update, g-tri.c is done and 'works' |
| 20:06.16 | ``Erik | irix: in order to run aclocal, you need sdl development stuff installed. |
| 20:21.21 | Maloeran | I noticed, Erik, thanks |
| 20:22.03 | IriX64 | thanks Erik. |
| 20:24.56 | ``Erik | yes, I am erik, stater of the obvious, purveyor of unnecessary information... |
| 20:39.21 | IriX64 | pooh.... checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error C compiler cannot create executables. whats that all about ? |
| 20:40.49 | brlcad | you have some bad option/compiler set |
| 20:41.10 | IriX64 | heh and Erik claimed ... ;) |
| 20:41.15 | brlcad | look in config.log near the end for details (like it suggests iirc) |
| 20:41.37 | IriX64 | ty |
| 20:41.40 | IriX64 | :) |
| 21:02.55 | IriX64 | --verbose is a wordy sort. :) |
| 21:54.44 | IriX64 | did she have a good trip :) |
| 21:54.44 | brlcad | heh |
| 21:55.46 | ``Erik | the bike, I presume? :) |
| 21:56.40 | IriX64 | err i get errors loading that page. |
| 21:56.52 | brlcad | "errors"? |
| 21:57.04 | IriX64 | just a sec. |
| 21:57.26 | IriX64 | bad Cmap/encoding. |
| 21:57.28 | Maloeran | Eh no, I had the bicycle, but the rest ( clothes mostly ) went to Philadelphia before I was put in a cab to Washington Dulles to catch a plane to Montreal |
| 21:57.38 | ``Erik | works fine for me |
| 21:57.53 | IriX64 | fark. |
| 21:57.53 | ``Erik | actually, some of the text boxes are clipped at the bottom |
| 21:57.55 | brlcad | ``Erik: added CAID just for you :P |
| 21:58.15 | ``Erik | electronic cad, electrical, conceive, and validation |
| 21:58.18 | ``Erik | woohoo! |
| 21:59.10 | IriX64 | ill worry about my farked up viewer later :) |
| 22:00.02 | brlcad | the text box clipping seems to be out of my control, tried various things |
| 22:00.18 | brlcad | i get a hairline white outline around them too |
| 22:00.19 | IriX64 | electronic cad wasn't that movie called Tron? :) |
| 22:03.30 | brlcad | ahh, comes out perfect if I don't use v4 pdf, and instead use v5 |
| 22:04.07 | IriX64 | at least 1. |
| 22:04.10 | IriX64 | :) |
| 22:04.17 | Maloeran | Seems perfect in xpdf 3.0 |
| 22:04.50 | brlcad | just uploaded the v5 now, does that render well? |
| 22:05.18 | Maloeran | Ouch, no transparency at all now in xpdf |
| 22:05.32 | Maloeran | Unless that is the intended effect |
| 22:05.43 | brlcad | hmm.. what do you mean? |
| 22:05.58 | ``Erik | looks good on mine |
| 22:07.06 | brlcad | should look like this: http://ftp.brlcad.org/tmp/Industry_Diagram.png |
| 22:07.12 | Maloeran | http://www.rayforce.net/pdfold.png http://www.rayforce.net/pdfnew.png |
| 22:07.57 | brlcad | heh, eww |
| 22:08.21 | brlcad | that's some pretty harsh line rendering too even on the good one |
| 22:10.07 | brlcad | interesting.. it got the "ornamentation" on the corners right in the new one, but gets it wrong in the old one |
| 22:10.08 | Maloeran | Yes, it could use some anti-aliasing |
| 22:10.10 | IriX64 | ill figure out my viewer later (sigh) |
| 22:18.21 | IriX64 | hah comparing floating point with == or != is unsafe <=== so get a condom ;) |
| 22:20.24 | IriX64 | wrapper takes on whole new meaning. :) |
| 22:21.49 | IriX64 | smokity break, back later. |
| 22:29.57 | brlcad | heh |
| 22:30.40 | brlcad | B |
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| 23:13.07 | IriX64 | geek code (one language i'm weak in) |
| 23:13.10 | IriX64 | :) |
| 23:13.39 | IriX64 | shouldn't it be geec :) |
| 23:14.38 | IriX64 | +? |
| 23:15.05 | IriX64 | ratz those aren't the right operators in gee c are they? :) |
| 23:15.58 | IriX64 | reboot hopefully see you soon. |
| 23:17.10 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03lbutler * 10brlcad/src/libbu/ (39 files): Doxygen comments |
