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01:12.50*** join/#brlcad IriX64 (n=IriX64@bas3-sudbury98-1168050759.dsl.bell.ca)
03:08.32IriX64``Erik thanks for saying c2 instead of c4, was worried for a minute ;)
03:10.35IriX64btw that was a long minute, when did you say that yesterday? :)
03:11.35IriX64tap,tap,tap distinctly hollow, who has that stuff? :)
03:12.01IriX64got some filesys stuff to do back l8r.
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16:44.41brlcadheh, incredible.. http://www.mcgirt.net/RC/VIDEOS/Giant_B52/
16:44.59brlcadcost about 1.5k for each of the 8 real turbine engines, 2 years to build it
16:45.59clock_brlcad: turbine engine just for 1500 USD?
16:46.29dtidrowmicroturbines
16:46.34clock_ah
16:46.57dtidrowlooks like a 1/12 scale model or so
16:48.01brlcadyeah, roughly
16:48.23brlcadshame to dump that much into a hobby to crash and burn it :)
16:48.49clock_brlcad: was it built just for the crash?
16:48.58brlcadheh, no
16:49.07brlcaddid you watch the videos?
16:49.57clock_brlcad: I watched just the crash
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17:15.21cadguygot the new doxygen stuff online.  Only libbu fully converted to the new format so far.
17:19.36dtidrow:-)
17:20.28brlcadhmm, hung the first time, but looks good now
17:21.29CIA-9BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/misc/Doxyfile: use 'BRL-CAD' for the project name
17:23.53cadguyNote that ftp.brlcad.net isn't connected
17:24.22brlcadahh, that'd do it
17:24.45cadguyWorking on libbn right now
17:24.52cadguyGot vmath, working on bn.h
17:31.50brlcadthe mirroring can be set up to go whichever way it makes sense to go, even bidirectional -- but then deleting files is a pita
17:33.17brlcadright now it goes from sf to ftp mainly just from a backup perspective -- i had been using a script that just uploads to both for the time being
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17:35.34brlcadsince we cant go ftp -> sf until a quota justification can be made (which we don't have enough reason for now), I'll just leave it as sf -> ftp
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18:18.45IriX64ValarQ: you sound like someone who's interested in what I call tweaking. :) That's why the screen shots.
18:19.56IriX64Hah. Steve Miller ---> "Really love your peaches, wanna shake your tree."
18:20.19IriX64whoa. thats not directed at anybody.
18:24.20IriX64ValarQ: feel free to show those to anybody who expresses an interest. :)
18:25.33IriX64and a multitude of key clicks is heard as they churn out their code :)
18:26.02IriX64don't mind me, im in a good mood.
18:26.19IriX64vax instruction set is complete.
18:30.40brlcadget the simh vax running yet?
18:31.01IriX64haha no its in vmware.
18:31.13IriX64:)
18:31.27brlcadvmware doesn't have a vax simulator
18:31.37IriX64hehe my system does.
18:31.49brlcadoookay
18:32.05IriX64starting a brlcad build for it now....
18:33.41IriX64vax-dec-ultrix lets tango.
18:34.48brlcadah, not a vax sim, but perhaps a vax cross-compilation
18:34.53brlcadquite a difference
18:35.10IriX64shoot me i'm literatly challenged :)
18:41.27brlcadif it were only that easy :)
18:45.22IriX64use your sidearm :)
18:45.40IriX64.................................................................... did i get you?:)
18:51.33brlcadhuh?
18:51.57IriX64poor attempt at virtual bullets :)
18:52.06brlcadah
18:52.24dtidrowdrat
18:52.33IriX64steppenwolf, all right.
18:52.40IriX64drat?
18:54.39dtidrowwas trying to /msg lee, and his client just disconnected
18:55.01IriX64whats /msg?
18:55.09IriX64:)
18:55.20dtidrowprivate message in irc
18:55.43IriX64i click the dcc chat icon, much easier.
18:55.49dtidrowessentially irc's version of IM
18:55.51dtidrowheh
18:56.01dtidrowwimp  ;-)
18:56.04IriX64don't have to keep typing /msg
18:56.07IriX64:)
18:56.19IriX64yah weemp:)
18:56.53ValarQIriX64: what what?
18:57.18IriX64we of the two finger school try to keep typing to a minimum.:)
18:57.31IriX64what weemp?
18:57.36IriX64weenie wimp :)
18:58.02ValarQIriX64: you're in a school for two fingers?
18:58.08dtidrowrofl
18:58.12IriX64no no i graduated :)
18:58.34ValarQok...
18:58.37dtidrowif you only have two fingers, how do you grab the mouse?  ;-)
18:58.53IriX64palm pilot style. :)
18:59.34ValarQwith your tongue?
19:00.05IriX64is that an offer? (and if it is i hope you're female) ;)
19:01.29IriX64spontaniety sometimes lacks decourm (sigh sorry).
19:01.38ValarQkeep hoping
19:02.01IriX64meaning youll have the gender change operation for me? :)
19:02.36IriX64CCR yeahhhhhhhhh.
19:03.22IriX64wait'll i put my mind back in, it's out being washed right now.
19:04.03IriX64"you can ponder perputal motion, hitch your mind on a crystal day...."
19:05.17brlcadIriX64: just type /query username
19:05.33brlcadit should open a session similar to dcc but without the overhead and firewall requirements
19:06.09IriX64opened it.
19:06.25IriX64i can do that with a mouse click to though.
19:06.34brlcadmost clients have that
19:06.51IriX64true.
19:06.51brlcadstill, a query is far better than dcc chat
19:06.58brlcadsame end result
19:07.08IriX64meaning dcc does'nt always connect?
19:07.15IriX64doesn't too.
19:07.41brlcaddcc has extra overhead and connection associated, have to make sure you can directly form a connection on both ends
19:08.04brlcadwhich requires firewalls to be more lenient, instead of query where you just talk through the irc network like usual
19:08.18IriX64should know that this isn't school :)
19:08.43brlcadschool?
19:09.00IriX64dcc needs an open port query uses the currently open port thats all.
19:09.26brlcadheh, not quite
19:09.36IriX64splain then lucy :)
19:11.18brlcadi just did.. but even easier is to just refer: http://www.kvirc.de/docu/doc_dcc_connection.html
19:12.05brlcadthat port has to be negotiated with the network, and isn't the same one that's outbound for the irc network already
19:13.12brlcadso if you're running a firewall, that's one extra port that both ends minimally need to allow and even without that, there's still the negotiation in general.. why bother when a session can be opened up as-is with a query with NO effort
19:13.36brlcadand i don't mean just no user effort.. no network/implementation/network effort
19:14.29IriX64agreed but i miss the ease of file transfering.
19:14.29brlcadi couldn't care less what you do, but I know I will personally rarely ever respond to a dcc chat .. there's just no point
19:14.41brlcaddcc file transfer isn't dcc chat -- you said chat
19:15.16IriX64hehe its still dcc, but chat i rarely have need of either the dcc variety or the query variety.
19:15.49IriX64not many people do that to me and i rarely take the intiative.
19:15.59brlcadstill, the problems you have with dcc file transfer are exemplary in itself
19:16.24IriX64feeling loqacious are you?
19:16.37IriX64loquacious too.
19:16.37brlcad~dict loqactious
19:16.57brlcad~dict loquacious
19:17.13brlcadgassy.. hmm..
19:17.22IriX64how sweet a friendly bot.:)
19:18.07IriX64heh gregarious (brings up mr. Rogers)
19:18.25IriX64what a neighbourhood.
19:20.18MaloeranUse a mouse to irc? What blasphemy
19:20.47IriX64we'll call it irmousing.
19:21.29IriX64bbiab smokity break.
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21:25.13IriX64hah 1hr 22minutes for vaxcad to compile.
21:26.04IriX64wonder if celine dionne singing had any effect on compile time? :)
21:26.39IriX64a happy compiler produces good code, my compiler likes music so....
21:28.12IriX64simh eh?
21:28.49IriX64have around here on 8" disk somewhere a z80 emulator.
21:30.07IriX64heh prefer the trout. it's edible :)
21:30.31IriX64gave mine away.
21:30.55IriX64little 3 board computer system s100 buss based.
21:31.04IriX6464k ram
21:31.51IriX64built a card punch and paper tape punch replacement out of it.
21:32.23IriX64all hand rolled asm for the z80.
21:32.52IriX64i'll stop reminicing now:)
21:33.23IriX64the problem with aging is that which is there to remember grows.
21:34.23IriX64vms pfffttt this ones for ultrix (dec style)
21:34.51IriX64say does vms have an xserver?
21:35.11IriX64that would be too crazy, cross compile for vms.
21:35.15dtidrowthink it did near the end
21:35.22IriX64end?
21:35.29dtidrowof DEC
21:35.33IriX64still several around.
21:35.36IriX64oh i c
21:35.42IriX64hp owns them now.
21:35.51dtidrowvia Compaq
21:35.59IriX64no compaq sold out
21:36.42IriX64hahahahah blahhhhhhhh.:)
21:36.43dtidrowIIRC, Compaq bought DEC, then HP absorbed them
21:37.13IriX64thought hp bought the dec division and compaq went its way.
21:37.36IriX64how you do you feel maloeran?
21:37.41dtidrownope - if you buy a 'Compaq', you're realy buying from HP
21:38.13IriX64young too.
21:38.13IriX64good dtidrow now i can sleep nights.
21:38.17dtidrowdon't you remember the HP-Compaq merger?
21:38.26dtidrowhappened back in the late '90s
21:38.28IriX64actually i don't
21:38.34MaloeranIt's just peculiar to hear people talk of these days I have never known, although I sometimes wish I did
21:39.12IriX64if you need help in computer trivial pusuit, call maloeran.
21:39.38dtidrowyeah - I'm dating myself when I mention that I actually took some courses at a local DEC office
21:39.50IriX64now in basic 10 goto 10 does what?
21:40.12dtidrowewww, basic...  :-\
21:40.28dtidrowhow old?
21:40.33IriX64at 80 you'r qualified to say you *are dirt.
21:40.43dtidrowheh
21:40.51IriX6450 qualifies as older than dirt.
21:40.58dtidrowheh
21:41.11IriX64so now the astute student knows i am between 50 and 80.
21:42.02dtidrowah, my mistake - it was 2002 that HP absorbed Compaq
21:42.04IriX64heh long as we're trivial pursuiting it, "Mabel, black label"
21:44.25dtidrowhave they quit making that stuff?
21:44.35IriX64my compiler sings, you can hear the bits shifting and rotating:)
21:44.43dtidrowlol
21:44.50IriX64what stuff 8" drives?
21:45.33dtidrowah, yes - the only place that I ever encountered 8" disks was the 'boot
21:45.44dtidrowboot drive for a 11/785
21:46.10dtidrowiirc, it held the microcode for the cpu
21:46.14IriX64they were in use by dec long before the 785.
21:46.30IriX64diags too
21:46.39dtidrowI'm sure, but that was the only place I ever came into contact with them
21:47.07IriX64did they do the job?
21:47.44dtidrowuntil the floppy wore out  :-)
21:50.01IriX64how to merge two databases in one easy step:)
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21:51.45IriX64awfull slow though
21:52.04IriX64ahh there its visible now slick.
21:55.39IriX64Twingy, you get that hole punched ;)
21:56.35IriX64oh my a head on with havoc.
21:57.00IriX64hahaha havocs running away from the cray.
21:57.14IriX64ill stop rambling now. sigh i do go on.
21:58.52Twingyhole?
21:59.55IriX64think heat.
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23:27.00IriX64oh boy toasted tomatoe sandwhich with mayo.. yum
23:29.20IriX64dtidrow: you worked for DEC?
23:35.31IriX64No project too simple to make too complex. Quite the religion SWPadnos

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