| 00:00.04 | IriX64 | how do i use Photon mapping light model properly? |
| 00:01.56 | IriX64 | i'm particularly confused byt visualize irradiance cache. |
| 00:02.02 | IriX64 | -t |
| 00:07.48 | ``Erik | you probably don't want to visualize that |
| 00:29.47 | IriX64 | probably? it came out black :) |
| 00:35.48 | IriX64 | Global Photons 16384 irradiance rays 100 angular Tol 60 scale indirect 1.0 and use irradiance hpersampling cache comes out better but still dark :) |
| 00:36.45 | IriX64 | photon mapping is simply a lighting model which i use to display a model. |
| 00:36.57 | IriX64 | solid model. |
| 00:41.44 | IriX64 | nice of you to offer 7 different lighting models :) |
| 00:45.19 | ``Erik | hrm, did you define a light source when you tried rendering with photon mapping? |
| 00:46.09 | ``Erik | ARL-TR-3608 is Justin's report on photon mapping, if you can find it... I d'no how much it applies to using the gui thingy in mged, though :) |
| 00:48.41 | IriX64 | photon mapping i'm familiar with is a model and the source. |
| 00:54.18 | IriX64 | hah enough of that for now. |
| 00:54.36 | IriX64 | must revisit jumpdrive. |
| 01:37.20 | ``Erik | I'd imagine that you must define at least one region with the shader of "light" for photon mapping to work... as... you need a source... |
| 02:36.30 | IriX64 | Comes out right. |
| 02:37.01 | IriX64 | time to play with windows archer. |
| 03:18.09 | Maloeran | Both the guest house and the Monaco hotel are full for that Utah conference, I seriously need to find something before getting there :} |
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| 10:36.04 | peterbrett | Hey folks, I'm having a bit of trouble getting my environment set up to run brlcad... |
| 10:36.20 | clock_ | peterbrett: what's the problem? |
| 10:36.40 | peterbrett | mged says it can't find data resources -- but it's looking in [/home/ptbb2/brlcad//share/brlcad/7.8.3] and that directory exists and contains data... |
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| 16:48.48 | IriX64 | ValarQ: i showed you mine... |
| 16:56.51 | ValarQ | IriX64: what? |
| 17:10.25 | IriX64 | heh we were comparing desktops. |
| 18:11.13 | ValarQ | yeah, you showed me a couple (never the 8 rightmost pixels thought) |
| 20:22.28 | ``Erik | ... |
| 20:23.41 | ValarQ | hello mr Erik |
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| 21:38.55 | ``Erik | <-- scratches his brain |
| 21:46.24 | Maloeran | brlcad, any idea where you'll be staying? Monacco and Guest house are full, don't bother trying |
| 21:46.39 | brlcad | not yet |
| 21:47.39 | brlcad | i'll figure that bit out tomorrow morning I think |
| 21:48.00 | Maloeran | I'll be at A there : http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&sll=40.73282,-111.814127&sspn=0.054633,0.107975&q=best+western&ie=UTF8&om=1&z=14&ll=40.756295,-111.86657&spn=0.054614,0.107975 |
| 21:48.44 | brlcad | hmm.. best western, eh.. |
| 21:49.30 | Maloeran | About the only thing reasonably close I could find, just so you don't search too long either, if you want |
| 21:50.09 | brlcad | not a huge fan of BW but thanks for the tip |
| 21:50.33 | Maloeran | Oh? I don't have a clue what kind of place this is :) |
| 21:50.47 | brlcad | i can't really imagine this conference having more than a couple hundred people at best, probably way less |
| 21:51.39 | brlcad | yeah, best westerns are sort of like shopping at walmart .. just your basic no-frills hotel for most of them |
| 21:53.19 | Maloeran | I see, I'm not too picky on comfort personally. They got a bed and internet, so... :) |
| 21:54.26 | brlcad | i'm not picky on the comfort, but I sure do like it when they have a gym, pool, and hot tub somewhere :) |
| 21:54.44 | brlcad | internet and bed are pretty much a baseline requirement |
| 21:55.42 | ``Erik | uh |
| 21:55.48 | ``Erik | you expect internet access at a best western? |
| 21:55.50 | ``Erik | BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA |
| 21:55.51 | ``Erik | :) |
| 21:56.39 | ``Erik | (unless they've changed recently) |
| 21:56.44 | brlcad | ooh, there's a marriott right there |
| 21:57.01 | ``Erik | searched for bus lines yet, mal? |
| 21:57.03 | Maloeran | They claimed to have internet on their website anyway |
| 21:57.12 | Maloeran | I'm pondering bringing a bicycle or not |
| 21:57.40 | ``Erik | internet in the room? or in a "business center"? |
| 21:58.23 | Maloeran | No clue. Features : Hot Tub Free Breakfast Dry Cleaning & Laundry Fitness Center/Health Club Pool Room Service High Speed Internet |
| 21:58.54 | Maloeran | Anyway, I have traveled through France on a bicycle and occasionally sleeping without a bed, I'll survive :) |
| 21:58.57 | brlcad | that's rather unusual for a best western |
| 22:00.17 | brlcad | Maloeran: how do you fly with your bike? |
| 22:00.25 | brlcad | you have a case? |
| 22:00.35 | Maloeran | I pack it in a cardboard box, the ones they sell bicycles in |
| 22:00.35 | ``Erik | wow, someone gave them a whole two stars |
| 22:00.43 | brlcad | heh |
| 22:01.27 | Maloeran | You are so picky :). And to think that I was almost put off by the "Deluxe Quality Room, Oversized Room", trying to find something more nromal |
| 22:01.30 | Maloeran | normal, even |
| 22:02.49 | ``Erik | sorry, I'm used to travelling with business accomodations :) sheratons, etc... |
| 22:03.03 | brlcad | i don't mind roughing it myself, heck I wouldn't mind pitching a tent -- but when it pertains to business, I'll take the accommodations any day |
| 22:03.09 | Maloeran | Internet seems to be hotel amenity and not for guest rooms. They provide an alarm clock though! |
| 22:03.14 | ``Erik | no motel8's and holiday inns |
| 22:03.24 | ``Erik | uh, I don't want to hear about you pitching a tend, dude |
| 22:03.39 | brlcad | heh |
| 22:03.41 | ``Erik | (now if I were going on my own dime, yeah, I'd be going a bit cheaper) |
| 22:03.43 | Maloeran | A tent and a bicycle is all you need to travel :) |
| 22:03.49 | ``Erik | I mean, i've slept in cars before **shrug* |
| 22:07.38 | Maloeran | Well, I suppose I could cancel the reservation if it's as bad as you suggest. Internet doesn't seem to be a guest room feature |
| 22:07.50 | Maloeran | Do they refund or it's just cancelled? :) |
| 22:10.55 | brlcad | depends on the hotel and their cancellation policy |
| 22:11.05 | ``Erik | um, depends on their policy and how early you cancel... like I said earlier, when going to a conference; get a room as soon as possible and ask about their cancellation policy |
| 22:11.23 | brlcad | i wouldn't cancel it until you have something else, and it really may be fine for you |
| 22:11.37 | brlcad | i was spoiled on business travel *years* ago |
| 22:11.49 | ``Erik | well, it'll be a room... I mean, perfectly suitable |
| 22:12.09 | ``Erik | and if you don't like the specific one you get, you can always ask for another room *shrug* |
| 22:12.15 | brlcad | heh |
| 22:12.44 | brlcad | like choosing between mcdonalds and wendys |
| 22:12.51 | ``Erik | *nod* |
| 22:12.52 | Maloeran | The apparent lack of internet in guest rooms is puzzling |
| 22:13.45 | brlcad | if you're under the same reqs, you just have to keep an eye out on per diem rates and what not |
| 22:13.45 | ``Erik | internet in room is more of an business and better class thing :/ |
| 22:14.01 | Maloeran | "Cancel Policy: Cancel before 4PM hotel time on Sep 16, 2006 to avoid a charge" Okay, no problem there |
| 22:14.28 | ``Erik | make sure you have board lined up before cancelling, though... if you can't find anything else and it gets taken when you're looking, you'll be screwed.. |
| 22:15.02 | Maloeran | Sure. I'm tempted to trust brlcad's judgement and wisdom in these matters |
| 22:15.53 | Maloeran | Besides, I suspect he might rent a car which, if you don't mind, could be appreciated by a passenger if possible |
| 22:17.15 | brlcad | that'll depend on how far away the hotel I get is, so won't know till tomorrow |
| 22:18.09 | brlcad | if it's within a 15-20 min drive or so, I'd probably just stick to cabs and public transportation |
| 22:18.19 | brlcad | if it's farther, I'll get a car |
| 22:20.15 | Maloeran | Right. |
| 22:21.17 | Maloeran | I always relied on bicycle and don't have a driving license, something fairly rare in the united states it seems |
| 22:21.35 | brlcad | in general, yeah |
| 22:21.53 | brlcad | unless you live in a city almost exclusively |
| 22:30.30 | ``Erik | like, downtown city, not burbland |
| 22:30.45 | ``Erik | and it depends on the city, heh... |
| 22:32.10 | brlcad | yeah, and what someone considers a "city" :) pretty much limited to big cities really that have prevalent public transportation |
| 22:32.39 | Maloeran | Indeed, and Montreal's subway is quite nice |
| 22:33.04 | ``Erik | lots of "big" cities have almost no public transportation,a nd some small ones do... |
| 22:33.45 | ``Erik | east coast cities tend to be laid out in a fashion far more viable for not having a car... midwest, southern, and most western ones are not friendly in that regard... |
| 22:34.05 | brlcad | when I lived in panama city, I would have never needed a car for most trips really.. a $3 cab ride would get you just about *anywhere* and like 40% of the cars on the road were cabs, not to mention the 25 cent buses that went everywhere |
| 22:34.18 | ``Erik | just make sure it's a real cab? heh |
| 22:34.57 | brlcad | nah, a lot of them were not "real" .. just some shmoe that slapped a sticker on his car and would charge you a couple bucks to take you somewhere |
| 22:34.59 | Maloeran | I'm guessing that depends of the local culture Erik ; if I'm not mistaken, many americans see a car as much more than a mean of transportation |
| 22:35.11 | Maloeran | Something like a social icon to reflect your personality, maybe |
| 22:35.16 | ``Erik | yeah |
| 22:35.28 | ``Erik | thus all the effort to dress them up |
| 22:35.33 | ``Erik | or try to buy a fancy one |
| 22:35.33 | ``Erik | heh |
| 22:35.34 | ``Erik | :D |
| 22:35.39 | brlcad | still totally depends on where you live and where you need to go |
| 22:35.57 | Maloeran | Which is of course quite unreasonable, right Erik? :) |
| 22:36.01 | ``Erik | 23" spinner rims and hydrolics are not exactly utilitarian |
| 22:36.13 | brlcad | people living exclusively in the cities rarely see them as icons imho |
| 22:36.15 | ``Erik | oh, I bought my car for more than general transportation |
| 22:36.23 | ``Erik | I wanted the "performance" aspect |
| 22:36.36 | ``Erik | depends on which part of which city, dude |
| 22:36.48 | ``Erik | look for, say |
| 22:36.50 | brlcad | the thing is that 90% of the population doesn't live in the cities, they live in suburbia or on the edges or in the middle of nowhere |
| 22:36.51 | ``Erik | spinner rims in the ghetto. |
| 22:37.39 | Maloeran | It was peculiar really, SUVs are rare in Montreal, they were all over the place in Belcamp/Edgewood |
| 22:39.22 | ``Erik | it's actually a fairly 'green' vehicle... 33mph... |
| 22:39.26 | ``Erik | mpg, rather |
| 22:41.11 | brlcad | it's also not really a useful comparison, major city versus some township on the far outskirts of a major city |
| 22:41.35 | Maloeran | 33 miles per gallon = 14.0297423 kilometers per liter You know, Google really impresses me on that one |
| 22:41.46 | brlcad | there are too many suv's in the u.s. for certain, but I'd suspect you'll find a similar trend on the outskirts of .ca cities too |
| 22:41.55 | ``Erik | oddly enough... townships in the sticks are more walkable than many downtown or suburban areas |
| 22:42.21 | ``Erik | I'm told that if you get away from the cities or border in canuckia, big duallie crew cab trucks are very common |
| 22:42.28 | brlcad | yay for metrics, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_metropolitan_area |
| 22:42.36 | Maloeran | True brlcad, but it's also a matter of culture. European cars of 2 places are very popular in the province of Quebec, and that's the only place in all of North America where they sell any ; there's no market elsewhere |
| 22:42.44 | brlcad | ahh, didn't know that b'more was separated from dc recently |
| 22:43.05 | ``Erik | huh? of two places? O.o |
| 22:43.32 | brlcad | heh, most european cars fail basic standards tests |
| 22:44.07 | ``Erik | the small ones fail safety tests, and many fail emissions tests... the us is more anal than canuckia... |
| 22:44.15 | brlcad | little trucks with 12 inch rims that peak out at 55mph, heh |
| 22:44.18 | ``Erik | like, eurospec m3's were sent to ca, but couldn't be sent to the us :/ |
| 22:44.27 | Maloeran | Yes, I don't know if these cars really are meant for the highways |
| 22:46.41 | ``Erik | (oddly enough, europe has more stringent front collision requirements... but less with side and rear impact, go figure.... (45mph vs our 35mph)) |
| 22:47.36 | brlcad | hm |
| 22:47.48 | brlcad | neither of those really help me when I'm doing triple digits on I95 |
| 22:47.58 | ``Erik | hahaha, true |
| 22:48.33 | ``Erik | 160kph is a bit brisk :) |
| 22:49.51 | Maloeran | Definitely not an energy efficient speed :), on top of being illegal and a few other details |
| 22:50.04 | ``Erik | um, depends on where |
| 22:50.09 | brlcad | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltimore-Washington_Metropolitan_Area hmm 8M |
| 22:50.29 | ``Erik | many roads in the world have no top speed limit, including a few in the US |
| 22:51.01 | ``Erik | colorado, I think, doesn't have daytime upper speed limits on some roads? |