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| 03:48.59 | Maloeran | That was sad, meeting a man of ~50y obsessed with chess in a cafe, carrying books filled with notes and knowing openings and styles in depth. I feel bad for beating him 3 times in a row |
| 03:54.44 | IriX64 | nytol :) |
| 04:17.49 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/ (4 files in 2 dirs): do as the comment suggests and move the htester.c test application that exercises the host to network floating point functions from libbn to libbu |
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| 15:54.01 | brlcad | Maloeran: there are rooms available at the University Guest House |
| 15:54.17 | brlcad | you have to ask for the "Ray Tracing Conference" |
| 15:55.26 | Maloeran | Ah!... That's not exactly the answer I got from their online form |
| 15:55.30 | Maloeran | You called? |
| 16:02.06 | Maloeran | I'm guessing the rooms are specifically reserved for the Ray-tracing conference, so one must ask for it specifically by phone |
| 16:26.30 | brlcad | most hotels aren't set up well for on-line registration, especially for business travel and conferences or most any special accommodations |
| 16:42.59 | Maloeran | So I realize. Thanks |
| 16:43.13 | ``Erik | heh |
| 16:44.11 | Maloeran | Erik, http://mcarp.earthstorm.com/reel/rotter-lowe/index.php?showimage=rotter-lowe-056.jpg&screenwidth=1600 |
| 16:44.35 | Maloeran | Looks like the exterior will be completed soon |
| 16:45.07 | brlcad | woot, all registered and taken care of now |
| 16:46.11 | ``Erik | swank |
| 16:48.05 | ``Erik | http://www.sci.utah.edu/RT06/venue.html#bars w00t |
| 16:48.52 | brlcad | almost picked the monaco because of that :) |
| 16:49.01 | brlcad | where you staying at ``Erik ? |
| 16:49.07 | ``Erik | guest house |
| 16:49.09 | ``Erik | lee is, too |
| 16:50.54 | ``Erik | <-- shoulda given you our flight info, heh |
| 16:53.09 | Maloeran | It's going to be a 14 hours flight with 2 stops for me, fun :) |
| 16:53.59 | Maloeran | I'll arrive in the night of 16 to 17 too, I don't feel like arriving at 3h in the morning after 14 hours of travel to sleep 3 hours before a conference |
| 16:55.51 | ``Erik | heh, my 5 hr nonstop flight looks postiively thrilling compared to that :) |
| 16:58.25 | Maloeran | PHL->SLC? Lucky |
| 17:03.03 | ``Erik | bwi->slc, actually |
| 17:03.27 | Maloeran | I am impressed |
| 17:03.54 | Maloeran | Montreal -> Philadelphia -> Las Vegas -> Salt Lake City |
| 17:04.02 | ``Erik | heh |
| 17:04.16 | ``Erik | <-- stepped back and let an expert figure out his travel *shrug* |
| 17:04.18 | Maloeran | A 5 hours wait at Las Vegas, I might have time to look around |
| 17:04.52 | ``Erik | security in us airports is a long painful process... |
| 17:06.02 | Maloeran | I know that. I don't think I told you that they took my bicycle out of its box last time, put it back all wrong ( the cardbord box had non-planar surfaces ), and covered it with tape "Inspected by the department of homeland security" |
| 17:06.27 | Maloeran | There's no damage though |
| 17:11.42 | ``Erik | "ask for a goldfish" O.o |
| 17:12.13 | ``Erik | that's right, you flew out of bwi... heh |
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| 17:12.27 | ``Erik | I'm not sure how easy it is to leave the airport and get back in during a layover :/ |
| 17:12.51 | Maloeran | I didn't fly out of bwi on that day :) |
| 17:12.56 | ``Erik | many many years ago, it was a simple matter, people left to airport all the time to sightsee or visit friends :/ |
| 17:13.08 | ``Erik | oh? philly? |
| 17:13.15 | Maloeran | The plane was delayed, I was going to miss the next one, so they sent me to Dulles but my luggage went to Philadelphia without me |
| 17:13.25 | ``Erik | heh |
| 17:13.26 | Maloeran | Then my cab had battery problems on the way... |
| 17:13.31 | ``Erik | sweet |
| 17:13.34 | ``Erik | I'd not heard this |
| 17:13.49 | Maloeran | I shared the details in #siggraph the following day, not a pleasant experience :) |
| 17:14.11 | Maloeran | I arrived in Montreal 16 hours later without my luggage |
| 17:14.55 | Maloeran | 16 hours after I arrived 5 hours early at the airport anyway |
| 17:23.03 | brlcad | arriving on the 16th? that'd be cool, considered it |
| 17:23.17 | brlcad | but why not 17th? no flights? |
| 17:23.40 | Maloeran | The only way I could arrive on the 17th would be at 3h in the morning of the 18th |
| 17:24.07 | Maloeran | All the flight options took over 12 hours for me |
| 17:24.26 | brlcad | hmmm |
| 17:27.37 | brlcad | wow, so it is.. not many flights from ymq or yul |
| 17:29.07 | brlcad | one nice thing about the area here, bwi is a major route for most and if that doesn't work there's dulles and reagan airports in DC |
| 17:30.36 | Maloeran | Oh? I seem to always have to go through phl to reach bwi from Montreal |
| 17:34.01 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03jlowenz * 10brlcad/src/librt/nmg_misc.c: calloc needed to provide initialization of unused/unset bot parameters (i.e. normals) |
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| 18:41.05 | ``Erik | yeah, canada sucks |
| 18:41.08 | ``Erik | "america jr" :D |
| 18:42.16 | ``Erik | syrup :) |
| 18:42.35 | Maloeran | I reserved at the guest house from the 16th to 18th, I'll have to find something else for the following days... or hopefully someone will cancel to free a room |
| 18:42.53 | ``Erik | are you on the waiting list for 19/20 ? |
| 18:43.26 | Maloeran | Hum, no? |
| 18:43.34 | Maloeran | At least I don't think so |
| 18:45.34 | ``Erik | perhaps tomorrow you should ask |
| 18:45.40 | ``Erik | you're flying out tonight? |
| 18:47.12 | Maloeran | Tomorrow morning |
| 18:47.45 | Maloeran | Arriving in the night from 16 to 17, at 3 am |
| 18:51.41 | Maloeran | 75 people for the conference? Now that's low |
| 18:52.25 | brlcad | roughly what I would have expected for this being first year and all |
| 18:53.00 | brlcad | most of the acm symposiums are not much bigger really, siggraph is the main "enormous" one |
| 18:53.35 | brlcad | also being the general distinction between the symposiums and conferences, the prior being smaller |
| 18:57.03 | ``Erik | ah ha, a calendar on acm.org |
| 18:57.04 | ``Erik | *read* |
| 18:57.22 | ``Erik | oh, nice... 9/18/06-9/20/05 ... |
| 18:58.09 | Maloeran | Something tells me it's going to be difficult to attend that one |
| 18:58.42 | ``Erik | ah, they call their good confs "pldi" and "popl" |
| 19:12.38 | Maloeran | I'm still dreaming of tackling raytracing hardware with whoever will be interested, Prasad sure seemed to be |
| 19:40.24 | Maloeran | Question : Why would CVS list about every file of a project as "Modified files" when commiting, while many definitely haven't been touched at all? |
| 19:40.37 | Maloeran | Does it rely on the time stamp? |
| 19:41.50 | brlcad | if they're marked as M then they are somehow different, likely whitespace might have changed |
| 19:42.19 | brlcad | cvs diff one of the files |
| 19:43.00 | brlcad | if cvs diff -b -B shows nothing, then something is changing the whitespace in the file |
| 19:43.03 | Maloeran | Doesn't print anything on stdout for these files |
| 19:44.23 | Maloeran | I copied the whole dir on laptop and back to work at a cafe, it's the only unusual event I can think of |
| 19:44.42 | ``Erik | heh, the timestamps would throw a M |
| 19:45.07 | Maloeran | Any way to prevent this? No big deal, but that isn't too pretty in the logs |
| 19:45.38 | brlcad | hm, i haven't seen timestamps cause that kind of problem in years, though all my machines are timesynced these days too |
| 19:45.57 | ``Erik | if you're sure everything is all good, "cvs -z3 update -ACPdr" might do it? |
| 19:46.13 | ``Erik | you also don't go around arbitrarily "touch"ing files, right, sean? ;) |
| 19:46.21 | ``Erik | oops |
| 19:46.24 | ``Erik | cvs -z3 update -ACPdR |
| 19:46.30 | brlcad | actually I do sometimes, to affect how it builds |
| 19:46.40 | brlcad | and that still doesn't screw with cvsage |
| 19:46.44 | Maloeran | What would that do? Just making sure that won't remove hours of work or anything.. :) |
| 19:46.45 | ``Erik | cvs backed files? |
| 19:47.08 | ``Erik | it'll force a total checkout, and create a lot of (hopefully identical) .# files |
| 19:47.28 | Maloeran | I copied the directory by scp so time stamps are of course all off |
| 19:47.31 | Maloeran | No way to rely on diff and just ignore time stamps? |
| 19:47.39 | ``Erik | hrmmm |
| 19:47.48 | ``Erik | I just touched a file to fuck the timestamp and tried an update, no M on it |
| 19:47.52 | ``Erik | guess my guess was wrong :/ |
| 19:48.05 | ``Erik | cvs diff it, dude *shrug* :) |
| 19:48.35 | brlcad | does one of the systems use a different EOL? |
| 19:48.44 | Maloeran | No, the files are identical |
| 19:48.53 | brlcad | not the file, the system |
| 19:49.05 | Maloeran | Both Linux |
| 19:49.10 | Maloeran | Even files of 0 bytes are identified as modified |
| 19:49.26 | brlcad | what does cvs status say? |
| 19:49.32 | brlcad | and what version of cvs are you using? |
| 19:49.46 | Maloeran | 1.12.11 |
| 19:50.20 | brlcad | cvs status somefile |
| 19:50.28 | brlcad | does it say "locally modified"? |
| 19:50.34 | Maloeran | cvs status is eating some bandwidth, working on the binary models surely |
| 19:50.48 | brlcad | another possibility is that your CVS dirs are horked somehow |
| 19:51.06 | Maloeran | Status: Up-to-date |
| 19:51.12 | brlcad | like if you copied files from one system to another, but didn't copy the corresponding CVS dirs |
| 19:51.32 | brlcad | heh, that's not M then |
| 19:51.34 | Maloeran | I really copied everything, scp -r |
| 19:51.36 | brlcad | cvs update again |
| 19:51.41 | Maloeran | cvs commit disagrees :) |
| 19:51.52 | brlcad | you have to update before a commit |
| 19:52.27 | brlcad | it'll say M on an update if you receive a modification as well |
| 19:52.43 | brlcad | so you do it twice and it'll say M the first time but not the second |
| 19:53.19 | Maloeran | Right, I didn't update as I'm the only one working on this |
| 19:55.06 | Maloeran | Thanks Shawn and Erik |
| 19:55.50 | Maloeran | Oops :) |
| 19:55.58 | brlcad | spells the right one wrong and the wrong one right ;) |
| 19:58.45 | ``Erik | wow, I'm retarded |
| 19:59.18 | brlcad | and that's the power of positive thinking |
| 19:59.59 | ``Erik | missing break; in a switch, heh |
| 20:00.04 | ``Erik | hurrrrrrr *drool* |
| 20:02.32 | Maloeran | Eheh |
| 20:23.20 | Maloeran | You use int80? :) That's unexpected |
| 20:41.04 | ``Erik | well |
| 20:41.17 | ``Erik | I'm writing a compiler for a turing tarpit language to do some theory crap with |
| 20:41.24 | ``Erik | and I have the frontend all buttoned up |
| 20:41.43 | ``Erik | and I have a modular optimizer... and a backend that produces C code |
| 20:41.55 | ``Erik | now I'm working on one that produces ia32 code (fbsd) |
| 20:41.59 | ``Erik | well |
| 20:42.06 | ``Erik | ia32 at&t asm, for as(1) |
| 20:42.13 | ``Erik | then I'll do one that generates machine code, I suppose |
| 20:42.35 | Maloeran | Oh, just rely on as, assembly encoding is a mess |
| 20:42.47 | ``Erik | um, I know, I've done it before |
| 20:43.03 | ``Erik | wrote (most of) an x86 assembler before, too |
| 20:44.14 | Maloeran | And I did abundant self-modifying code and procedurally generated opcodes in my younger days |
| 20:44.22 | ``Erik | (just cuz I don't think asm is good for app programming doesn't mean I don't know how to use it or never use it..) |
| 20:44.26 | ``Erik | hehehe, I did those on the c64's |
| 20:44.27 | ``Erik | fun stuff |
| 20:45.00 | Maloeran | :) I spent months working on the Warcraft 2 executable and data files in order to tweak the game |
| 20:45.51 | ``Erik | ooh, license violations, ... :D |
| 20:46.20 | Maloeran | Oh hum, oops? :) That sure was long ago |
| 20:47.14 | ``Erik | in the name of education |
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