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| 01:20.32 | Maloeran | Ahh... This place is crazy, I'm totally not at my place |
| 01:21.27 | Maloeran | There didn't have whatever kind of room Survice had reserved, so they gave me a suite. There's even a large table for 6 persons in there |
| 01:21.35 | Twingy | call the gnome! |
| 01:21.50 | Maloeran | So hum, any suggestion where to eat nearby on foot from the Renaissance harborplace thing? |
| 01:21.59 | Twingy | McDonalds! |
| 01:22.33 | Maloeran | I'll try that sometimes! But not today, I haven't eaten since 9h this morning, so I need actual food |
| 01:23.20 | Twingy | how are you transporting this time? |
| 01:23.54 | Maloeran | By foot, if I understood the question |
| 01:24.16 | Maloeran | Seriously, any suggestion where to eat nearby? I assume you people know Baltimore a bit |
| 01:24.21 | Twingy | is this the place across from the wingate? |
| 01:24.54 | Maloeran | This is in Baltimore, some huge classy luxurious hotel where I feel totally out of my environment |
| 01:25.18 | Twingy | survice has a place in baltimore? learned something new today |
| 01:26.02 | Maloeran | No, I'm there for visualization conference 29th to 3rd |
| 01:26.32 | Maloeran | I'll just walk randomly if you don't have any suggestion |
| 01:27.24 | Twingy | I'm clueless when it comes to baltimore, I live in my basement |
| 01:28.01 | Maloeran | :) Okay. Herein begins the quest for food! Be back later |
| 01:29.23 | Twingy | 9:30 pm, good luck |
| 01:31.12 | iday | inner harbor |
| 01:31.43 | iday | thar be food there... |
| 01:31.43 | Twingy | I'm still on a macaroni and cheese budget until the next pay raise |
| 01:31.46 | iday | ha |
| 01:31.58 | Twingy | more than one of my pay checks goes to the monthly morgage |
| 01:32.00 | iday | whatever - if you didn't spend it all on solar panels |
| 01:32.07 | iday | you'd have more |
| 01:32.23 | Twingy | not at the moment |
| 01:32.26 | iday | for most people it is that way ;-) |
| 01:32.30 | Twingy | I'm spending money I won't see till february |
| 01:32.56 | iday | i just got a VGR of 12730 on my machine |
| 01:34.14 | iday | but i must get back to HW |
| 01:34.24 | iday | BTW - talked to drew thursday |
| 01:34.40 | Twingy | kk |
| 01:35.01 | iday | literally caught him walking to his car to leave - but everything seems on track |
| 01:35.31 | iday | just waiting for the announcement |
| 01:35.54 | Twingy | my adrt stuff seems to be done |
| 01:35.56 | iday | told him not to be concerned about hred - i do need to make things clear to troy though.... |
| 01:35.59 | iday | yay! |
| 01:36.02 | iday | no more ww |
| 01:36.06 | iday | for you! |
| 01:36.18 | Twingy | right-o |
| 01:36.40 | Twingy | it's like 1.5x with doubles and 2x with floats |
| 01:36.49 | Twingy | so I kept up my end of the bargain |
| 01:37.03 | iday | did you ever get in any sse stuff? |
| 01:37.04 | Twingy | I haven't even optimized my junk either |
| 01:37.09 | iday | ok |
| 01:37.12 | Twingy | I'm just rushing it to get it done |
| 01:37.15 | iday | that probably answers my question |
| 01:37.18 | Twingy | :) |
| 01:37.45 | Twingy | I've been working on gcam all day |
| 01:37.47 | iday | since sse is a major part of the optimized nurbs rendering - i started looking into last week |
| 01:37.54 | iday | cool |
| 01:37.58 | Twingy | I finally have the capability to design a full aircract fuselage |
| 01:38.06 | Twingy | *craft |
| 01:38.13 | Twingy | I think I will design one for AMA |
| 01:38.16 | Twingy | for fun |
| 01:38.21 | Twingy | I have the balsa in the garage |
| 01:38.25 | iday | :-) |
| 01:38.26 | iday | nice |
| 01:38.34 | Twingy | you should make your own too :) |
| 01:38.35 | iday | formers and everything? |
| 01:38.42 | Twingy | I will use foam and balsa only |
| 01:38.46 | Twingy | no monokote |
| 01:38.48 | iday | i thought about doing some model aircraft design |
| 01:38.51 | iday | it would be fun |
| 01:38.51 | Twingy | that stuff is a headache |
| 01:38.59 | Twingy | yes, lot's of fun |
| 01:39.03 | Twingy | gcam is a big headache though |
| 01:39.10 | Twingy | trying to make intuitive gui's and stuff |
| 01:39.16 | iday | although i have like 3/4 planes waiting to be built in my workshop |
| 01:39.24 | Twingy | ah |
| 01:39.28 | iday | guis are difficult |
| 01:39.29 | iday | that |
| 01:39.35 | iday | is all there is to it |
| 01:40.11 | iday | the interesting thing is: you can make a better looking gui than the code |
| 01:40.34 | iday | iow - the gui looks good - but the code is spaghetti :-( |
| 01:40.41 | Twingy | my sketch and extrude paradigm is very handy if you use it right |
| 01:41.11 | Twingy | you could in theory use brl-cad to accomplish what I'm trying to do |
| 01:41.26 | Twingy | but you would have to modify it only use arcs and lines |
| 01:41.34 | Twingy | and be able to order things |
| 01:41.44 | iday | brl-cad sketch tool is POS |
| 01:41.46 | Twingy | without ordering you will lose your structure as you mill |
| 01:41.51 | iday | everyone knows that ;-) |
| 01:41.57 | Twingy | most people just want to do a dxf |
| 01:42.05 | Twingy | but they don't understand they need to cut the insides out first |
| 01:42.08 | Twingy | them the outter perimiter |
| 01:42.13 | Twingy | otherwise it'll get thrown around |
| 01:42.25 | iday | yeah - hahaha (visualizing the result) |
| 01:42.36 | Twingy | on the very last layer the machine literally spits it out |
| 01:42.48 | Twingy | in any random direction |
| 01:42.58 | Twingy | about 1 - 4 inches |
| 01:44.13 | Twingy | I need to buy a sheet of that pink fomular insulation for home |
| 01:44.29 | Twingy | very handy when it comes to building models |
| 01:44.50 | iday | yes - they use it all the time in MA and other mags |
| 01:44.53 | Twingy | like $20 for a 2' x 8' sheet |
| 01:44.59 | iday | especially for 3d electrics |
| 01:45.15 | Twingy | highly flamable, but oh well :) |
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| 02:06.00 | Twingy | one of these days I'm going to have to leave this house on the weekend |
| 02:35.34 | Twingy | argh, meltdown |
| 02:38.01 | Maloeran | My brain is still running in french mode, I started ordering in french, and later said "thank you" in french |
| 02:38.21 | Twingy | at least yours is running |
| 02:38.25 | Twingy | mine is crawling right now |
| 02:38.30 | Maloeran | The waitress was more amused than annoyed, fortunately |
| 02:38.41 | Maloeran | Lack of sleep? |
| 02:38.51 | Twingy | plenty of sleep |
| 02:39.09 | Twingy | gcam is becoming quite a handful |
| 02:39.16 | Maloeran | Lack of vitamin B6, B12 and Omega 3? |
| 02:39.20 | Maloeran | Ah, too much work :) |
| 02:39.37 | Twingy | working 14 hours a day on it 7 days week gets to you |
| 02:40.00 | Maloeran | Yes, tell me about it. I took a little break recently |
| 02:40.07 | Twingy | I went running today... |
| 02:40.27 | Twingy | every time I add a new feature |
| 02:40.36 | Twingy | I hear a thousand years complain |
| 02:40.44 | Twingy | s/years/users |
| 02:41.01 | Twingy | in my head of course |
| 02:41.02 | Maloeran | Complaining because features are added? How so? |
| 02:41.30 | Maloeran | Oh :), I thought it was a handful of users with really loud voices, or perhaps a lot of echo |
| 02:42.18 | Twingy | you crack me up :) |
| 02:43.34 | Maloeran | I'm a bit annoyed as the hotel's wireless barely reaches my room/suite on the 7th floor, the signal is too weak. I have to connect from the lobby |
| 02:45.08 | Twingy | can you boost the power in the driver? |
| 02:45.40 | Twingy | some times the mcu on the card will let you adjust the regulator |
| 02:45.53 | Maloeran | Good idea, there are iwconfig settings for that, I never tried though |
| 02:46.00 | Twingy | assuming it's an adjustable regulator |
| 02:46.43 | Maloeran | It's a bit weird to have a full featured suite with a conference room built-in, but no wireless |
| 02:48.29 | Twingy | no it's not |
| 02:48.54 | Twingy | wireless is outsourced by a third party |
| 02:49.12 | Twingy | they don't care who gets what coverage |
| 02:49.17 | Twingy | just as long as there is coverage |
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| 22:08.20 | Maloeran | Hrmph. So where are you guys, ``Erik, brlcad? Haven't seen you around yet |
| 22:12.06 | Maloeran | I was in the medical visualization presentations, seemed more interesting than the... other weird stuff |
| 22:12.26 | Maloeran | Not too sure why I'm here for yet, though |
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| 22:39.23 | Maloeran | Doh. |
| 22:39.30 | Maloeran | Is it the same for Erik and Lee? |
| 22:39.43 | brlcad | you're probably there just to sponge up information and ideas, rarely any *specific* reason |
| 22:40.02 | Maloeran | Seriously, what am I doing here? :) This has nothing to do in any way with what you people ar edoing |
| 22:40.03 | brlcad | no, they're going to be there most of the week |
| 22:40.04 | Maloeran | are doing, even |
| 22:40.33 | brlcad | visualization? there's quite a bit of that |
| 22:40.38 | Maloeran | Do you know if they were present today? |
| 22:40.45 | brlcad | nope |
| 22:41.12 | Maloeran | Visualization of complex graphs into 2d planar stuff? Visualisation of thousands of overlapping 2d functions by random sampling?... I think this is way off |
| 22:41.39 | brlcad | ehm, that's like only one tiny aspect |
| 22:42.12 | brlcad | if you're comparing just what you've seen in one or two sessions as representing the entire conference, *that* would be way off |
| 22:42.48 | Maloeran | Right of course, I would have prefered knowing that I could skip a few days |
| 22:43.02 | brlcad | of specific interest is just about anything related to medical visualization |
| 22:44.22 | Maloeran | I asked where you guys were staying in Baltimore, when I learned you would drive daily, it should have been implied in the question :) |
| 22:44.46 | brlcad | well they're supposed to be there all week |
| 22:44.52 | brlcad | i'm just not |
| 22:45.04 | Maloeran | Right. Thanks, I must have missed them |
| 22:45.14 | brlcad | too much of a rush and interrupt into another task I'm working on |
| 22:46.15 | Maloeran | My time could be used for more productive things too, without throwing 400$ away daily |
| 22:46.36 | brlcad | you can always sit in a corner and code |
| 22:46.39 | Twingy | you could have invested that into TwingCo, LLC |
| 22:47.34 | Maloeran | Mmhm, or stay at the fancy hotel suite. They didn't have anymore of what Survice reserved, so I was given a suite |
| 22:48.24 | brlcad | i certainly wouldn't be complaining about staying there ;) |
| 22:48.25 | Twingy | I think you should have made some donations to GCAM instead :P |
| 22:48.32 | brlcad | even if just to sit in the room and code |
| 22:49.48 | Maloeran | This is way above my comfort needs, it makes me.. uncomfortable |
| 22:49.56 | Twingy | hah |
| 22:50.10 | Maloeran | There's a conference room built-in the suite if you want when passing by |
| 22:55.09 | Twingy | I think you should walk around as a giant pumpkin on the 31st |
| 22:56.15 | Maloeran | Woohoo. I lack the costume though. I could try to mimick it |
| 22:56.40 | brlcad | could make one out of the pillows and sheets |
| 22:56.51 | Twingy | you remember ftp.cdrom.com/pub/asm/party/XX ? |
| 22:56.53 | brlcad | i big white pumpkin |
| 22:57.20 | Twingy | you could do a little pumpkin 3d demo |
| 22:58.02 | Twingy | I must've downloaded every one of those |
| 22:58.23 | Twingy | 4kB and I'd be watching 3d fly throughs on my P133 for like 10 minutes |
| 22:58.52 | Twingy | textured and bump mapped and stuff, would blow me away |
| 23:00.25 | Maloeran | Eheh. It helps that it's assembly written for one very specific purpose, totally not flexible |
| 23:01.03 | Twingy | I'm saying have a little fun and write and old school demo with the tracer in like 16kB :) |
| 23:01.30 | Twingy | I think my libtie is like 9kB |
| 23:01.47 | Twingy | that's 5kB for a 3d world :) |
| 23:01.52 | Twingy | the possibilities are endless! |
| 23:02.26 | Maloeran | I could take a SSE assembly pipeline, and render one highly optimized graph structure stored in the binary, that would fit in a couple kb easily |
| 23:02.35 | Maloeran | Except, there's not much point :) |
| 23:03.35 | Twingy | there's never a point to them, but damn cool to watch :) |
| 23:03.59 | Maloeran | Eheh. I don't really mind if the executable is 4kb of 300kb though |
| 23:04.22 | Twingy | that's still smaller than MSVC++'s hello world app, so that's cool |
| 23:05.44 | Maloeran | I think it was Delphi where the default empty executable was 500kb or so |
| 23:08.00 | Twingy | hmm, I should find out what my pay increase is this week or next |
| 23:55.24 | Maloeran | little Italy, even |