| 00:23.39 | *** join/#brlcad cad03 (n=48c0dea0@bz.bzflag.bz) |
| 00:37.19 | IriX64 | sdl and python installed, adrt enabled, started a build lets see. |
| 00:41.49 | ``Erik | if you want to be fast, you can cd src/adrt |
| 00:41.51 | ``Erik | and make from there |
| 00:42.01 | ``Erik | you can do 'make depends' if you dont' have libbu built yet |
| 00:43.50 | brlcad | he's not on cvs head so likely run into other stuff |
| 00:44.04 | brlcad | plus I think I removed the libbu dep |
| 00:51.28 | ``Erik | oh |
| 00:51.31 | ``Erik | eh? |
| 00:51.58 | ``Erik | every main() makes half an attempt to use bu_getopt() |
| 00:53.17 | brlcad | not any more |
| 00:53.24 | brlcad | i undid that |
| 00:54.55 | ``Erik | heh |
| 00:55.17 | ``Erik | and here I figured it was going to become more integrated with BRL-CAD |
| 01:01.20 | brlcad | eventually.. |
| 01:01.37 | brlcad | as soon as any of the libbu compatibility routines become a problem, it'll be a dep |
| 01:01.47 | brlcad | but to just replace for the sake of replacing wasn't the intent |
| 01:02.22 | brlcad | as it is, adrt should/might still compile entirely stand-alone |
| 01:08.24 | ``Erik | hm, is it getopt or getopt_long in there? |
| 01:08.45 | brlcad | just getopt iirc |
| 01:09.35 | ``Erik | ah, all the bu_getopt stuff has been removed and the getopt_long is gaurded |
| 01:09.36 | ``Erik | cool |
| 02:19.24 | IriX64 | oooo, somethings missing in display.c |
| 02:19.33 | IriX64 | all sorts of undefines. |
| 02:19.40 | IriX64 | undefined. |
| 02:19.48 | IriX64 | all _SDL stuff. |
| 02:20.00 | brlcad | er, you have sdl installed? |
| 02:20.04 | IriX64 | yes |
| 02:20.24 | brlcad | presumably one of the first errors is something about not finding an SDL.h header I bet |
| 02:20.37 | brlcad | might need to manually tweak CPPFLAGS |
| 02:21.50 | IriX64 | http://www.pastebin.ca/371076 |
| 02:21.59 | ``Erik | and perhaps post config.log and the affected Makefile somewhere we can get to eventually |
| 02:21.59 | IriX64 | its at link time for observer. |
| 02:22.14 | ``Erik | hm |
| 02:22.29 | ``Erik | where is libSDL.dll ? |
| 02:22.34 | ``Erik | (or .so or .lib or whatevr) |
| 02:22.48 | IriX64 | in local lib i think let me check. |
| 02:23.35 | IriX64 | yeah all in there. |
| 02:23.47 | IriX64 | configure found it ok. |
| 02:24.13 | ``Erik | hm, in /usr/local/lib ? |
| 02:24.15 | ``Erik | what's the filename? |
| 02:24.50 | IriX64 | libsdl.a .la .ddl.a 3 of them. |
| 02:25.06 | IriX64 | err dll.a |
| 02:26.13 | IriX64 | still want config.log and the makefile ``Erik? |
| 02:26.27 | ``Erik | all .a or .la, huh, that means static only, and you were trying to link it dynamically, I think... I'm not sure on cygwin link semantics |
| 02:26.29 | ``Erik | nah |
| 02:26.44 | IriX64 | ill remove shared. |
| 02:29.01 | IriX64 | http://www.pastebin.ca/371084 |
| 02:29.15 | IriX64 | anything you want added/deleted from the config line? |
| 02:31.13 | ``Erik | enable-adrt automatically enable sdl and python... the flags are more there for defining an unusual location |
| 02:31.34 | ``Erik | disable-symbols? disable-shared? O.o |
| 02:31.55 | IriX64 | --disable-configure :P |
| 02:32.02 | ``Erik | disabling debugging and enabling optimizations are probably useless at this stage |
| 02:32.05 | brlcad | disable shared works, but not so sure about the symbols one doing anything |
| 02:32.32 | IriX64 | seem to remember seeing it somewhere. |
| 02:32.39 | ``Erik | why disable shared? |
| 02:32.45 | IriX64 | libraries |
| 02:32.51 | brlcad | yeah, you probably should leave off --enable-optimizations and --disable-debug and --di |
| 02:32.54 | ``Erik | just cuz you saw it "somewhere" doesnt' mean it works with BRL-CAD, homey |
| 02:32.54 | brlcad | sable-runtime-debugging |
| 02:33.09 | ``Erik | ./configure --help |
| 02:33.17 | IriX64 | :D |
| 02:33.18 | brlcad | disable shared works, and he actually needs it for cygwin.. some ld problem |
| 02:33.29 | ``Erik | and the more flags you give it, the less 'normal' it is, so the less able we are to help... fyi... :) |
| 02:33.35 | IriX64 | right want to make sure now. |
| 02:33.50 | IriX64 | ty i didnt realize that. |
| 02:35.06 | IriX64 | --disable-bug-reports ;) |
| 02:35.09 | brlcad | ./configure --enable-everything --enable-adrt --disable-shared --prefix=/usr/cygcad should be all you need |
| 02:35.12 | ``Erik | like, if you were using osX.4 with no flags, brlcad would be able to help you n/p... if you were using fbsd6 with no flags, I'd probably be able to help n/p... that's where we live, yo... the less like our environments you get, the less we're in the know |
| 02:36.05 | IriX64 | good to know my nect build will just be ./configure --disable-shared. |
| 02:36.12 | IriX64 | next too. |
| 02:36.26 | IriX64 | liar ;) |
| 02:36.33 | brlcad | i regularly try a variety of flag settings, and different platforms, but it is true that os x would be one of the most familiar regardless |
| 02:36.54 | IriX64 | motorola or apple? |
| 02:37.01 | ``Erik | <-- does a bit on osX and linux, a tiny bit on solaris... |
| 02:37.03 | ``Erik | uhhhh |
| 02:37.09 | ``Erik | do you mean ibm or intel? |
| 02:37.14 | IriX64 | osx |
| 02:37.29 | ``Erik | <-- uses both ibm/g[45] and intel/coreduo macs |
| 02:37.59 | ``Erik | most of my dev work is on a quad core opteron fbsd6.2 machine |
| 02:38.02 | IriX64 | model 3800+ |
| 02:38.54 | IriX64 | we have 4 boxes in this house 2 laptops and 2 desktops, *I'm only "allowed" to use one. |
| 02:39.12 | IriX64 | chilldren you know :) |
| 02:44.55 | ``Erik | heh |
| 02:45.19 | IriX64 | btw thats sposed to read "WunderBox" :) |
| 02:45.24 | ``Erik | s/his h/in h/ |
| 02:49.01 | IriX64 | you're "state of the art" then ``Erik. |
| 02:50.27 | IriX64 | oon the other hand the one i'm using has a gig of main mem and 200gig drive :) |
| 02:52.07 | IriX64 | already used 44gigs. |
| 02:52.32 | ``Erik | hrm, all three of my laptops have 2g ram a pop, and my fbsd box downstairs has around .5tb used |
| 02:52.45 | ``Erik | so, uh, put it away, dude :D there's always someone with a bigger one |
| 02:52.49 | IriX64 | whoa:) |
| 02:53.26 | IriX64 | penvy hah. |
| 02:58.24 | IriX64 | need some of natures wine, bbiab. |
| 03:07.06 | Twingy | oh yea, my PIC chip has 768 bytes of RAM, so nya! |
| 03:09.49 | ``Erik | good old 16f88's |
| 03:10.13 | Twingy | the 18F4620's are quite nice |
| 03:10.20 | Twingy | 32kB program, 2kB RAM, 1kB eeprom |
| 03:13.50 | IriX64 | did I really say cursor.c ``Erik? |
| 06:40.39 | *** join/#brlcad PrezKennedy (n=Matthew@c-69-138-68-160.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 09:32.33 | *** join/#brlcad docelic (n=docelic@212.15.185.136) |
| 09:35.25 | *** join/#brlcad clock_ (i=clock@84-72-63-213.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 09:38.01 | clock_ | win 11 |
| 10:27.21 | *** join/#brlcad cad03 (n=55462b6d@bz.bzflag.bz) |
| 14:27.59 | *** join/#brlcad lg_ (n=lg_@88.234.13.222) |
| 15:05.21 | lg_ | hi... |
| 15:16.59 | louipc | hello |
| 15:17.43 | lg_ | a, someone alive there ;-) |
| 15:18.52 | louipc | this channel is pretty active, but only at certain times and I don't think they're regular |
| 15:19.07 | ``Erik | yeah, we need to eat more fiber :/ |
| 15:20.21 | louipc | hah |
| 16:57.43 | brlcad | hehe |
| 17:01.42 | ``Erik | I'm gonna destroy the toilets at work, yo |
| 18:07.26 | IriX64 | http://www.pastebin.ca/371833 |
| 18:15.28 | IriX64 | http://www.pastebin.ca/371844 <==== this is the one that gets me :) |
| 18:17.00 | IriX64 | ``Erik, it produces MZ files :) |
| 18:17.21 | ``Erik | uh huh? |
| 18:17.34 | ``Erik | iirc, MZ is old dos executables (like .com files) and PE is windows stuff |
| 18:18.06 | ``Erik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EXE |
| 18:18.16 | Maloeran | And "PE" stands for "Portable Executable" amusingly |
| 18:18.21 | Maloeran | Portable to windows and windows |
| 18:18.42 | ``Erik | there we go, mz is the old dos executable, then new dos is NE, then a couple os/2 ones (LE and LX), ... then PE |
| 18:19.25 | ``Erik | once upon a time, windows ran on non-x86 platforms... |
| 18:19.31 | ``Erik | that's where the 'portable' comes from |
| 18:19.42 | ``Erik | a buddy of mine had NT on an alpha, heh |
| 18:19.46 | IriX64 | ``erik my mged is a PE file. |
| 18:20.12 | ``Erik | as it should be... |
| 18:20.45 | IriX64 | and is :) |
| 18:21.28 | IriX64 | http://www.pastebin.ca/371853 |
| 18:21.53 | IriX64 | alphas were sometimes shipped with NT ``Erik. |
| 18:24.02 | ``Erik | the interesting part was that they did dynamic machine code translation, iirc |
| 18:24.23 | ``Erik | so you could run an 'x86' program, and the first time you did, it'd take a long time to start up, then would run as native alpha machine code from then on |
| 18:24.26 | IriX64 | alpha/nt? |
| 18:24.41 | ``Erik | yeah |
| 18:24.53 | IriX64 | didn't play with it overly long, just got the serial ports running. |
| 18:25.33 | IriX64 | nice little box though :) |
| 18:36.53 | IriX64 | http://www.pastebin.ca/371861 <=== IriX64 laff's hysterically. |
| 18:37.42 | IriX64 | winix is born :P |
| 18:44.35 | IriX64 | http://www.pastebin.ca/371879 <=== last one, won't bug you with it again. |
| 18:54.38 | IriX64 | now who's going to translate all those auto* tools to .bat land ;) |
| 19:00.32 | brlcad | i hear a volunteer! |
| 19:03.44 | CIA-7 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/configure.ac: autoconf was complaining about AM_C_PROTOTYPES being called after AC_C_INLINE and AC_C_CONST, so move it up before them |
| 19:06.58 | IriX64 | tie him to the typer quick :) |
| 19:07.52 | IriX64 | errr you heard that silent plea for help and you do this to me? :P |
| 19:10.30 | Maloeran | I need input on a theory. This new box doesn't have a sound chip. If I were to forward a /dev/dsp socket to write to the /dev/dsp of another box, I would effectively be redirecting all audio output to the other machine's. Correct? |
| 19:12.46 | IriX64 | why not throw in a cheap sound card? |
| 19:13.04 | IriX64 | 45$ canadian gets you a pci soundblaster. |
| 19:30.59 | *** join/#brlcad docelic (n=docelic@212.91.114.66) |
| 19:42.50 | IriX64 | http://www.pastebin.ca/371946 <== Where I want to go with this thing, at the moment she just "looks" pretty :) |
| 19:57.17 | IriX64 | http://www.pastebin.ca/371970 < now I return to ruminating just how big angels wings must be :) |
| 19:57.56 | IriX64 | btw, it works in both environments, admittly I rely on cygwin but still... |
| 19:58.22 | ``Erik | 'both' environment? O.o |
| 19:58.36 | IriX64 | :) |
| 20:03.35 | IriX64 | http://www.pastebin.ca/371979 <=== I'll shut up now, cheers. |
| 20:08.14 | *** join/#brlcad cad18 (n=47c72e4f@bz.bzflag.bz) |
| 20:29.38 | Maloeran | Just for the record, redirecting /dev/dsp worked nicely |
| 20:37.50 | ``Erik | bah, fucking snow |
| 20:42.23 | ``Erik | ... |
| 20:42.44 | IriX64 | http://www.pastebin.ca/372055 <=== ``Erik, recognize this one? |
| 20:44.02 | IriX64 | hahahah this is an OS/2 32 bit executable. |
| 20:49.03 | IriX64 | http://www.pastebin.ca/index.php |
| 21:01.42 | IriX64 | TurboC high on Cygwin hehe. |
| 21:13.35 | IriX64 | btw pretty.exe produced by that TC ran in the cygwin environment stand alone. |
| 21:17.05 | Maloeran | Such a strange person |
| 22:00.45 | *** join/#brlcad IriX64 (n=mario_du@bas3-sudbury98-1168050480.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 22:30.24 | Maloeran | I just noticed something. When the raytracing demo renders 100fps at 800x600, only ~30% of the cpus time is spent raytracing, the rest is "idle" ( according to 'top' ) |
| 22:31.16 | Maloeran | I'm guessing it's SDL's surface blitting being a serious bottleneck |
| 22:32.40 | Maloeran | Nevermind, SDL is just a small part of it. Blocking until the frame is complete instead of pushing and buffering several frames at the same time is the problem |
| 22:40.06 | IriX64 | farkles, does BRL-CAD support building share *and static libs on the same run? |
| 22:47.07 | brlcad | IriX64: of course it does, and is what it does by default |
| 22:50.59 | IriX64 | ty lucy :) |
| 22:51.55 | brlcad | seriously, you know the issue with cygwin .. if you're not going to investigate properly, why do you ask? |
| 22:53.41 | IriX64 | seperate thread for everybody? ie main launches them all and waits? |
| 22:54.37 | Maloeran | The proper is at the end of a frame, only a handful of threads might still be working, the others are done and there's no work left for this frame |
| 22:55.14 | Maloeran | In practice, I can't get my cpu use above 80% with 8 cores |
| 22:55.23 | brlcad | you're just now running into this problem? |
| 22:55.26 | IriX64 | have it wait on a universal done signale, ok got yours now i reset the flag and wait again. |
| 22:55.48 | ``Erik | he just now got enough hw to find the problem... |
| 22:55.50 | Maloeran | Yes brlcad, it was not much of an issue with just 2 cores |
| 22:56.10 | Maloeran | It's not a problem with the engine, just the demos |
| 22:56.27 | brlcad | I know, i'm just a bit surprised |