| 00:09.56 | ``Erik | css screams of a solution to a different problem :( |
| 00:12.28 | ``Erik | heh |
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| 01:48.02 | brlcad | MinuteElectron: well, I got the header menu auto-sizing now (at least horizontally, not gonna touch vertically..) |
| 01:48.47 | brlcad | annoying padding problem on firefox that I couldn't get rid of that makes the horizontal scrollbar show up for all of 5 pixels |
| 01:49.52 | brlcad | it has to be related to the navcorner, but i'm sick of it now :) |
| 02:50.44 | brlcad | hm, actually was related to the separators .. which I wasn't really happy with regardless, so I just ripped them out |
| 02:51.00 | brlcad | seems to work fine now |
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| 04:12.44 | brlcad | woot, and it even looks okay in IE6 now |
| 04:20.32 | yukonbob | brlcad: did you see my posting earlier today re: that pipe and rotation? |
| 04:35.00 | yukonbob | ~lart errror |
| 04:35.00 | ibot | whips out a sword and chops errror in half |
| 04:35.08 | yukonbob | ~lart error |
| 04:35.08 | ibot | declares error a moron |
| 04:40.55 | louipc | I guess error got the bot that time |
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| 09:15.49 | MinuteElectron | brlcad: I though you wanted the poll in the sidebar? |
| 09:23.34 | brlcad | erm, I do/did |
| 09:23.39 | brlcad | i wasn't working on that |
| 09:24.54 | MinuteElectron | No, but you said about promoting it to the main page. That is easy, but how do I get it into the sidebar from there? |
| 09:26.49 | brlcad | ah, that's a view you just turn on iirc |
| 09:27.26 | brlcad | i'm having basic password problems oddly enough .. i've disabled ldap and reset my password and it still won't accept it on a re-login |
| 09:28.28 | brlcad | I did get the menu working, as well as a bunch of other style and layout tweaks |
| 09:29.42 | brlcad | alas, now it's my turn to nap :) ttyl |
| 09:30.09 | MinuteElectron | night |
| 09:30.12 | MinuteElectron | I tihhnk |
| 09:38.20 | brlcad | Admin -> Site Building -> Blocks -> "Most Recent Poll" |
| 09:38.45 | brlcad | you've got the left and right sidebar styles swapped (or at least you're displaying the left on the right |
| 09:40.05 | brlcad | there's a variety of blocks that can be turned on/off in the blocks section, lett-to-three column layouts by just selecting the dropdown and weights |
| 09:40.52 | MinuteElectron | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:34.01 | ``Erik | </blah |
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| 14:01.14 | kwizart | hi! |
| 14:01.14 | kwizart | can brlcad can work with a "vanilla" openNurbs ? |
| 14:02.10 | kwizart | i need to check what have changed with the openNurbs sources so openNurbs can be build shared externally... |
| 15:44.24 | brlcad | kwizart: yes it can though we have made mods so that the build works |
| 15:45.47 | brlcad | i believe you can see in the commit log in src/other/openNURBS where I made the handful of necessary mods that fixed their files/build |
| 15:45.48 | kwizart | because it seems better to take your patches - but some of them seems related to copyright changes... and some others are moving headers... |
| 15:46.05 | kwizart | well i have made a diff -uNr |
| 15:46.19 | kwizart | but the resulting patch is huge... |
| 15:48.25 | brlcad | in src/other/openNURBS? |
| 15:50.56 | kwizart | yes |
| 15:52.21 | kwizart | did I missed something ? |
| 15:52.30 | brlcad | are you doing a cvs diff or a dir-to-dir diff? |
| 15:53.52 | kwizart | dir-to-dir |
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| 15:56.44 | brlcad | can you post your diff, might be easier if I see what you see :) |
| 15:59.05 | brlcad | yeah, I don't see anything copyright related |
| 15:59.23 | brlcad | jason re-implemented a lot of functionality that the rhino guys ripped out |
| 15:59.47 | kwizart | http://kwizart.free.fr/fedora/patches/openNURBS-4.0-openNURBS_brlcad.patch |
| 16:01.00 | brlcad | for reference, here's what I have that we modified http://my.brlcad.org/~sean/opennurbs.patch |
| 16:01.19 | brlcad | cvs -q diff -b -B -kk -u -r 1.1 > changes.patch |
| 16:04.06 | brlcad | hm, your diff has several oddities... entire files added/missing |
| 16:04.21 | brlcad | e.g. opennurbs_crashtest.h |
| 16:04.29 | kwizart | yes! |
| 16:04.31 | kwizart | but why ? |
| 16:10.30 | brlcad | i'm thinking the opennurbs we started with is different |
| 16:13.21 | kwizart | i've took the 4.0 version of it...i don't remember if when it was released... |
| 16:13.21 | brlcad | i'm checking that now |
| 16:13.21 | brlcad | they have a tendency to release several version of the same version |
| 16:13.32 | brlcad | yep, that's it |
| 16:13.32 | brlcad | -#define OPENNURBS_VERSION 200707189 |
| 16:13.33 | brlcad | +#define OPENNURBS_VERSION 200612059 |
| 16:13.53 | brlcad | they made a release just really recently .. didn't know that |
| 16:14.07 | brlcad | we started with the december 2006 release |
| 16:14.28 | brlcad | so I'll have to merge in their update |
| 16:15.23 | brlcad | that's the missing files and copyright 'changes' -- e.g. files that they had that didn't have a copyright header, now have one |
| 16:16.07 | brlcad | yeah, and they're both "4.0" |
| 16:18.26 | kwizart | yes and they also have updated -// Copyright (c) 1993-2007 even if the file hasn't other update |
| 16:19.12 | kwizart | i don't know how i can consider the "not even copyleft" notice |
| 16:21.02 | kwizart | if there is not FOSS compliant License this is not supposed to be allowed in Fedora... |
| 16:21.02 | brlcad | it's because their terms basically say it's public domain |
| 16:21.11 | brlcad | think of it as a 0-clause BSD license |
| 16:21.57 | brlcad | it's of course technically not public domain, they retained copyright, but they allow any use |
| 16:23.15 | brlcad | their terms on the website are a bit misworded "There are no restrictions. Neither copyright nor copyleft restrictions apply." .. that's basically saying public domain |
| 16:24.10 | brlcad | and contradict their files, which claim copyright but then refer you to the website :) |
| 16:24.48 | brlcad | we should pull in their website 'terms' just to cover arse |
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| 17:13.27 | Laniakea | brlcad: something for you http://ronja.twibright.com/3d/all.avi |
| 17:15.35 | Laniakea | ``Erik: isn't the BRL-CAD requirement for the latest version of OpenBSD a bit stringent? |
| 17:53.34 | brlcad | MinuteElectron: fixed the footer on collapse/expand though I had to use a nasty nasty hack |
| 17:54.27 | MinuteElectron | Hmm, /me wonders what the nasty hack was. |
| 17:56.43 | brlcad | look at misc/collapse.js |
| 17:56.59 | MinuteElectron | Oh, I see. |
| 17:57.01 | brlcad | basically resize the window during the animation |
| 17:57.22 | brlcad | it's a bit clunky on expansion, but fairly smooth on collapse here |
| 17:58.15 | brlcad | also fixed my login problems.. the ldap module wasn't working right |
| 17:59.03 | MinuteElectron | Hmm, it appeared to be broken -I got a few PHP errors. |
| 18:00.58 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/TODO: openNURBS just released an update back at the end of July, schedule integrating/reviewing those changes |
| 18:05.21 | brlcad | hmm, that's pretty freaking cool Laniakea... and he left |
| 18:16.35 | MinuteElectron | brlcad: Can you quickly submit a vote on the poll so I can see how my styling looks when applied at a different percentage level? |
| 18:17.32 | MinuteElectron | Not sure whether dark should indicate percentage or light should. |
| 18:19.43 | MinuteElectron | I gotta run, bbl. |
| 18:22.47 | brlcad | MinuteElectron: i don't see a way TO vote.. :) |
| 18:24.31 | brlcad | there aren't any options other that seeing the results, and posting comments |
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| 19:23.33 | brlcad | that's pretty freaking cool Laniakea... |
| 19:24.27 | Laniakea | brlcad: thanks |
| 19:24.55 | Laniakea | brlcad: it's unfinished yet but if you want to do something with it it's under GFDL |
| 19:26.03 | Laniakea | like for example there are some flashes inside and I don't know what is causing them yet |
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| 19:26.12 | Laniakea | or the bitrate needs to be increased |
| 19:26.19 | Laniakea | end titles are missing |
| 19:26.25 | Laniakea | the music ends abruptly |
| 19:26.39 | Laniakea | the ordering of the individual 3D models is more or less random |
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| 19:33.15 | Laniakea | brlcad: is it possible to make some kind of cartoon style? By overlaying the rtedge output with rt output? |
| 19:35.59 | MinuteElectron | brlcad: Have you tried looking at the main page while logged in? |
| 19:40.20 | brlcad | yeah, I noticed the flashes |
| 19:40.53 | MinuteElectron | brlcad: You should be able to vote now. |
| 19:41.38 | brlcad | Laniakea: it is possible, the rtwizard tool does that exact thing .. basically you do an rt, and and rtedge, and with the right options the two can be composited together using another cad tool (pixmatte iirc) |
| 19:42.38 | brlcad | MinuteElectron: okay, now it worked :) |
| 19:42.39 | brlcad | what was it? |
| 19:42.52 | MinuteElectron | I had to set permissions. |
| 19:42.55 | brlcad | ahh |
| 19:45.31 | MinuteElectron | bbl |
| 19:47.24 | Laniakea | brlcad: what's the meaning of in1, in2, true_out and false_out files in pixmatte? |
| 19:47.25 | brlcad | another detail I changed on the style, black and white aren't used except for exceptional situations -- using 111 and eee instead as needed |
| 19:47.33 | brlcad | otherwise the contrast can be outright painful on some displays |
| 19:47.57 | brlcad | Laniakea: it's a dual channel filtering program |
| 19:48.10 | brlcad | so you provide two input streams, and filters on both streams |
| 19:48.14 | brlcad | manpage has some examples |
| 19:48.27 | Laniakea | I don't have manpage |
| 19:48.38 | Laniakea | I would understand 2 channels and a mask saying which one should go out |
| 19:48.41 | brlcad | hm? |
| 19:48.44 | brlcad | brlman pixmatte |
| 19:48.56 | brlcad | or man -M /usr/brlcad/man pixmatte |
| 19:49.22 | Laniakea | huh? |
| 19:49.22 | Laniakea | I didn't know there is a thing like brlman |
| 19:49.22 | Laniakea | now it works |
| 19:49.22 | brlcad | if you have brl-cad installed, there are hundreds of manual pages :) |
| 19:49.28 | Laniakea | I always guessed |
| 19:49.37 | Laniakea | I didn't know the manpages are available |
| 19:49.38 | brlcad | you have to set your MANPATH, use -M, or use brlman (which just does it for you) |
| 19:49.50 | Laniakea | I tried "man something" and when it failed I assumed brl-cad doesn't come with manpage |
| 19:49.56 | brlcad | ahh |
| 19:50.01 | brlcad | just like setting your PATH |
| 19:51.33 | Laniakea | oh now I understand |
| 19:51.33 | brlcad | i'd suggest setting MANPATH since brlman's pager is kinda lame |
| 19:52.38 | Laniakea | is it possible to turn off the shading so that rt would return just the material color? So it would be filled with uniform colour like cartoons and not shaded color like 3d model? |
| 19:52.38 | Laniakea | but brlman rtwizard is not available |
| 20:03.24 | brlcad | only about 300 of the 400 tools have manpages |
| 20:04.11 | brlcad | to turn off shading, I believe there is a lighting model for that (-L option iirc, under gui options too) and if that doesn't work, you can always set the shader to 'flat' |
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| 22:12.25 | ``Erik | that time of the month? O.o |
| 22:30.47 | kwizart | hum! why /usr/bin/wall from brlcad conflict with SysVinit ? |
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