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| 12:46.00 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/NEWS: |
| 12:46.00 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: once again, john continues to rock and rock hard he does with this latest |
| 12:46.00 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: addition -- tab-completion for mged. he added tab bindings for both classic and |
| 12:46.00 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: tcl gui mode where the commands complete out and then during command processing, |
| 12:46.00 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: tab expands out to the available objects including down a geometry path. this |
| 12:46.02 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: has been a long-desired, often-requested feature. very awesome, even if it |
| 12:46.04 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: doesn't use readline/libedit. ;) |
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| 15:38.35 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/remrt/rtsrv.c: commit to quell compiler warning |
| 15:47.11 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/conv/ (jack/g-jack.c off/g-off.c): use literal terminator instead of casting null (fixes compiler warning) |
| 16:20.16 | MinuteElectron | Now, I know I was going to do something... |
| 16:46.00 | ``Erik | not me, I was gonna do stuff intead |
| 17:11.05 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/librt/g_tgc.c: only print all that prep stuff if solid debugging is turned on |
| 18:01.20 | ``Erik | heh |
| 18:01.32 | ``Erik | all this spaghetti code is making me want to go get some italian O.o |
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| 18:39.53 | ``Erik | heh, finally got it |
| 18:40.24 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/liboptical/photonmap.c: carry a_logoverlap so -R has the expected behavior when building the irradiance cache |
| 19:04.40 | brlcad | that's probably NEWS-worthy, it's user-visible |
| 19:35.07 | MinuteElectron | Drupal is a whore to upgrade. |
| 19:46.23 | MinuteElectron | Everything is done BTW. |
| 19:46.27 | MinuteElectron | On the site. |
| 19:47.48 | MinuteElectron | In case anyone was worried. |
| 19:52.32 | brlcad | awesome! |
| 19:53.08 | brlcad | i've upgraded drupal in the past and found it to be pretty painless for that particular upgrade (albeit a couple years ago now) |
| 19:53.16 | brlcad | eek |
| 19:53.31 | brlcad | that kind of command scares the daylights out of me :) |
| 19:53.50 | MinuteElectron | brlcad: Would you mind upgrading it. |
| 19:54.04 | MinuteElectron | I have restored it I can't work it out. |
| 19:54.04 | brlcad | didn't you just do it? |
| 19:54.12 | MinuteElectron | No, it was down? |
| 19:54.18 | brlcad | hm? |
| 19:54.25 | brlcad | i was just going from what you said |
| 19:54.32 | brlcad | that "Everything is done" |
| 19:54.34 | MinuteElectron | oh, ok |
| 19:54.41 | MinuteElectron | s/done/down |
| 19:54.49 | MinuteElectron | Sorry, uber-typo. |
| 19:55.16 | brlcad | oooh |
| 19:55.22 | brlcad | heh, yeah |
| 19:55.55 | brlcad | is it still down? |
| 19:56.05 | MinuteElectron | No, I restored it. |
| 19:56.12 | MinuteElectron | But it is still 5.1 not 5.2. |
| 19:56.19 | brlcad | ah, down because of the upgrade |
| 19:56.29 | brlcad | thought you meant because of some other issue |
| 19:56.33 | MinuteElectron | I have no idea of how to upgrade, been trying for ages. |
| 19:56.54 | brlcad | okay, I'll take a look at it |
| 19:56.58 | MinuteElectron | Thanks. |
| 19:57.01 | brlcad | presume you need .2 for something? |
| 19:57.14 | MinuteElectron | Yeah. |
| 19:57.17 | brlcad | k |
| 19:57.19 | MinuteElectron | No, security updates. |
| 19:57.24 | brlcad | ah |
| 19:57.40 | brlcad | iirc, the files installed are from freebsd ports |
| 19:58.04 | brlcad | so I can just update the port, copy the updated files over, run the db upgrade script if any db actions changed |
| 19:58.14 | MinuteElectron | oh? |
| 19:58.25 | MinuteElectron | from a port? |
| 19:59.01 | brlcad | from the "ports" system, freebsd version of apt, portage, fink, etc |
| 20:00.38 | MinuteElectron | ok... |
| 20:01.19 | MinuteElectron | No, it isn't from a port. |
| 20:01.24 | brlcad | hm |
| 20:01.27 | brlcad | oh! |
| 20:01.31 | MinuteElectron | I have records of doing the wget. |
| 20:01.34 | brlcad | yeah, you set up the current files.. that's right |
| 20:01.40 | MinuteElectron | *grin* |
| 20:01.43 | brlcad | sorry, confusing the site with another |
| 20:01.49 | brlcad | same for wikimedia |
| 20:01.52 | brlcad | er, mediawiki |
| 20:01.52 | MinuteElectron | It hapens. |
| 20:01.57 | MinuteElectron | *happens |
| 20:02.29 | brlcad | there are probably a half dozen CMS' on the server for various sites/projects |
| 20:02.47 | MinuteElectron | heh |
| 20:09.35 | ``Erik | all your cms are belong to me |
| 20:09.44 | ``Erik | move rdbms for great justice! |
| 20:12.28 | ``Erik | now that's interesting |
| 20:12.58 | ``Erik | bu_log() in rt is printing to the xterm where I ran mged instead of to the mged console window |
| 20:17.08 | brlcad | yeah, there's a problem with the I/O redirection that happens early on in ged.c |
| 20:17.40 | brlcad | either an fd that's not closed that should be, or that forked before it's closed, or something similar |
| 20:17.45 | brlcad | i'd not investigated |
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| 20:33.27 | minute | brlcad: Once you finish if you could talk me through the process briefly it would be nice. This is quite a big learning curve for me, I have never actually updated web software because all I ever used was bleeding edge MediaWiki (although a bad idea it was). |
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| 20:45.29 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/liboptical/photonmap.c: Timer based progress report on irradiance cache if sigalrm is handy. Also tries to estimate how much time left. PR#1312281. |
| 20:50.28 | ``Erik | wtf, I smell popcnr |
| 20:50.31 | ``Erik | corn |
| 21:01.17 | minute | I think the site is on the right track right now. Tomorrow I will port the skin to mediaWiki (shouldn't be too difficult) then start adding content (I think). Also if you haven't managed to upgrade I will look into that brlcad. |
| 21:01.29 | minute | Apart from them two things we are good to go. |
| 21:02.10 | minute | And on that note I go to bed, goodnight all. |
| 21:09.07 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/adrt/ (46 files in 14 dirs): TFLOAT changed to tfloat. also quell a few warnings/bugs related to passing the wrong TIE_3 pointer type. |
| 21:10.40 | ``Erik | hrm |
| 21:12.26 | ``Erik | tfloat is a define, I usually make defines all upper so'z I know what I'm looking at... might be better to change tfloat to a typedef (and give it the _t suffix, perhaps) O.o |
| 21:41.40 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/adrt/libtie/ (11 files): libtie update from Justin. these changes are the updates after integration of libtie with MUVES-S2. it includes a few minor api changes as well as a variety of bug fixes and other cleanup. |
| 21:42.47 | brlcad | heh, those commits were made like on thursday .. way to go CIA-4 |
| 21:43.03 | starseeker | Hey Sean - that you? |
| 21:43.45 | starseeker | Question on the ITCL and ITK libraries |
| 21:43.47 | brlcad | minute: cool, sounds good -- i'll let you know what the upgrade steps where and thanks again for all the hard work on the new site.. I think it's going to be so much better, even though this is obviously quite a bit of work :) |
| 21:43.56 | brlcad | starseeker: howdy ... been a while! |
| 21:44.36 | brlcad | ``Erik: as for the tfloatness, yeah, meh .. I do to, but I was in apply-the-patch/upgrade-and-move-on mode |
| 21:44.41 | starseeker | Indeed :-). Looking over the Gentoo brlcad bug, I see folks haven't given up. I'm getting back up to speed. |
| 21:44.56 | brlcad | yeah, there were quite a few developments in that area |
| 21:45.23 | brlcad | I spent several months reworking portions of the code and ultimately ripping out that custom Tk mod that originally made the gentoo integration a royal PITA |
| 21:45.36 | brlcad | now the only thing left should be namespace conflicts |
| 21:45.48 | starseeker | hehe - the "system nukers" |
| 21:46.12 | starseeker | I've been thinking about that - how does brlcad decide the default locations to look for its libraries? |
| 21:48.48 | starseeker | Hmm - looks like the complaint in the latest ebuild attempt is that ITCL_LIBRARY and ITK_LIBRARY need to be set in the users .bashrc file. Is that expected? |
| 21:56.21 | brlcad | it's pretty complicated as there are various tools/libraries looking for different things |
| 21:56.42 | brlcad | mged is particularly complicated in this regard as it rolls everything into one binary, so it has to find almost everything |
| 21:57.48 | brlcad | there's a BRLCAD_ROOT (which folks aren't supposed to set any more) that basically amounts to the installed path that it will search for installed binary resources (like rt) as well as a BRLCAD_DATA path for shared resources (like the tclscripts that establish mged's gui) |
| 21:58.31 | brlcad | on top of that, tcl/tk have their own paths that they search (TCL_LIBRARY, TK_LIBRARY, ITCL_LIBRARY, ITK_LIBRARY, IWIDGETS_LIBRARY) |
| 21:58.33 | starseeker | Is it possible to set a "per-library" install path that would (say) put the conflicting libraries in /usr/lib/brlcad and teach the binaries to look for that particular functionality there? |
| 21:58.58 | brlcad | both brl-cad and tcl/tk have compile-time paths that it knows about, run-time paths, and overrideable paths |
| 22:00.58 | starseeker | Hmm. I saved a report from the last time my system got wiped... |
| 22:01.46 | brlcad | that's all ancient now, it's changed quite a bit wrt tcl/tk |
| 22:02.04 | brlcad | the issue now will probably be that I jumped up to tcl/tk 8.5 which is not yet finalized |
| 22:02.06 | starseeker | Ah. librt, libbu, libregex, libbn, and libtermlib |
| 22:03.51 | starseeker | Gentoo has an ebuild for tcl-8.5-alpha6, but still masked. |
| 22:04.10 | starseeker | tk as well. |
| 22:06.40 | starseeker | I wonder why ITCL_LIBRARY and ITK_LIBRARY aren't getting set in the system. |
| 22:06.51 | starseeker | Maybe the ebuilds for those need work... |
| 22:06.53 | brlcad | you shouldn't need to set any vars, but can to override |
| 22:07.12 | brlcad | it "should" all work from configure/compile-time paths |
| 22:07.34 | starseeker | The latest ebuild has an informational message about setting them, and IIRC I ran into something similar when I tried a manual install. |
| 22:07.41 | starseeker | Let me give it a go with the latest. |
| 22:10.58 | brlcad | heh |
| 22:11.21 | brlcad | remember to not install into /usr as it'll conflict with various installed or system libs potentially |
| 22:11.33 | brlcad | default is /usr/brlcad |
| 22:11.46 | starseeker | Right :-). Here's what happened last time I tried /usr: http://bugs.gentoo.org/attachment.cgi?id=109012 |
| 22:13.18 | starseeker | Somebody else actually tried the same thing, with similar results ;-) |
| 22:19.01 | brlcad | i think i even warned about it several times, iirc :) |
| 22:19.21 | starseeker | hehe - probably |
| 22:24.16 | starseeker | Ah - done. |
| 22:26.43 | starseeker | Excellent. Manual compile and install succeeded flawlessly |
| 22:26.53 | starseeker | Very nice work! |
| 22:29.18 | starseeker | OK, there is a real chance that most recent ebuild will actually work. |
| 23:11.08 | starseeker | ln: accessing `/var/tmp/portage/sci-misc/brlcad-7.10.2/work/brlcad-7.10.2Tk_Alloc3DBorderFromObj.3': No such file or directory |
| 23:11.15 | starseeker | Nuts - so close |
| 23:18.28 | brlcad | hm, it reported an hour and it didn't take an hour? |
| 23:19.24 | brlcad | minor minor issue to say the least, but I've yet to hear a report of that being wrong in years* |
| 23:20.13 | brlcad | yeah, looks like a trailing slash is missing there on that ln before "Tk" for that header |
| 23:24.54 | starseeker | brlcad: I'll try the manual build again and see if it's wrong a second time |
| 23:27.12 | brlcad | yeah, I'd start with a vanilla manual install into /usr/brlcad and make sure it at least works on your system (both with --enable-all and without), then try a make distcheck |
| 23:27.41 | brlcad | if those three work, then move on to the portage build since then it "should" just be ebuild configuration/settings |
| 23:30.28 | starseeker | OK |
| 23:38.11 | starseeker | Redoing manual with enable-all |
| 23:42.50 | starseeker | If I understand the "auto" target correctly, I can trust it to check for a system library and if it finds (for whatever reason) that it can't use it it will fall back to the internal version? |
| 23:45.08 | starseeker | That poses an interesting problem. Theoretically, what we would really want the ebuild to do would be to require tcl, tk, etc. if and only if the version installable by portage could (in theory) support brlcad. Otherwise the build of the system version would be known to be a waste of time in advance. |
| 23:46.22 | starseeker | BUT - we don't want the build to stop for a failed dependency, because at that point BRL-CAD can take over. |