| 00:11.24 | brlcad | he's added |
| 00:55.02 | starseeker | Thanks! |
| 00:55.48 | starseeker | made it through customs OK? ;-) |
| 01:17.47 | louipc | volII is a doosey though isn't it? |
| 01:18.32 | starseeker | it is indeed |
| 02:42.58 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * 10brlcad/doc/book/VolumeII.xml: Markup through Lesson 9 |
| 03:36.22 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/ (mged/Makefile.am util/Makefile.am): |
| 03:36.22 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: missing linker libs causing run-time crashes due to missing symbols (lazy |
| 03:36.22 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: binding failures) on LIBDM .. it needs the DM_LIBS that were defined during |
| 03:36.22 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: configure (specifically the carbon framework in this instance for the |
| 03:36.22 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: application focus routine). |
| 03:44.30 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/mged/red.c: apply Karel's sf patch 1800475 (improve ergonomoy of red) that provides improved matrix readability for mged 'red' command. the change adds an additional space after each matrix line in the 'red' file being edited. |
| 04:03.00 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/AUTHORS: (log message trimmed) |
| 04:03.00 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: include a unique/special/new section specfically for the folks that have worked |
| 04:03.00 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: on documentation. this minimally includes betty schueler (mged tutorial vol2), |
| 04:03.00 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: eric edwards (VAST MAJORITY of the tutorial series vol1234), dwayne kregel |
| 04:03.00 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: (Principles of effective modeling vol3), and cliff yapp (docbook conversion |
| 04:03.02 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: efforts). the developers are specifically *not* listed under the doc writer and |
| 04:03.04 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: other sections since they tend to apply to all of them, so make a note of that |
| 04:12.10 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/AUTHORS: cliff is active |
| 04:12.46 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/mged/red.c: apply karel's same tweak to the tree listing as well for spacing out matrices one character per matrix line |
| 04:18.57 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/NEWS: |
| 04:18.57 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: mr. anderson fixed the dbconcat of empty combinations that was causing mged to |
| 04:18.57 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: crash. adjust_names() in wdb_obj.c (part of dbconcat) was being passed |
| 04:18.57 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: comb->tree without checking for a null value. john added a check for null and |
| 04:18.57 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: skips the combination (as null means it's an empty combination). this fixes two |
| 04:19.00 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: bugs reported by karel kulhavy, sf bug 1800310 (ASCII import segfault in mged) |
| 04:19.02 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: and 1800306 (dbconcat segfaults). |
| 04:22.06 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/NEWS: oop, also comment on the improved matrix readability on mged 'red' command. this patch that was provided by karel adds a space after each row of the matrices being printed. |
| 04:31.39 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/mged/red.c: oop, no fp |
| 05:26.14 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/librt/db_lookup.c: add braces for proper indent |
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| 06:00.19 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/librt/db_lookup.c: |
| 06:00.19 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: prevent a crash if we're using db5_get_attributes() and the object doesn't have |
| 06:00.19 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: any of the attributes we're looking for. we need to at least initialize the avs |
| 06:00.19 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: to empty, otherwise bu_avs_free will abort on a magic number check. |
| 06:02.29 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/librt/wdb_obj.c: |
| 06:02.29 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: fix the mged ls command's command argument processing. A handful of off-by-one |
| 06:02.29 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: errors on the -A option processing, now rewritten to avoid the issue altogether |
| 06:02.29 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: by stripping off the command name and ay processed arguments. now it also |
| 06:02.29 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: prints a better error message if the args to -A are incorrect. |
| 06:04.31 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/tclscripts/helplib.tcl: |
| 06:04.31 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: change the help to the ls command to be a little more clear on what is expected |
| 06:04.31 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: of the special -A argument. this is in response to changes and repairs made in |
| 06:04.31 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: response to karel's sf patch 1800301 (ls -A claimed to be accepted, isn't). |
| 06:07.49 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/NEWS: |
| 06:07.49 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: fixed crash in mged ls -A attribute listing command, related to karel's sf patch |
| 06:07.49 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 1800301 (ls -A claimed to be accepted, isn't). the arguments where getting |
| 06:07.49 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: checked with an off-by-one error, but even with that problem fixed -- the |
| 06:07.49 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: command would crash mged due to an avs being freed that was never initialized. |
| 06:07.52 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: avs is now always freed too so the problem goes away. |
| 06:17.44 | poolio | oh my goodness. |
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| 10:41.25 | Z80-Boy | woohoo, my BRL-CAD patch was accepted :) |
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| 11:13.10 | Z80-Boy | Is there a way to tell pix-fb to display the picture more than or a moment? |
| 11:13.19 | Z80-Boy | I tried all out switches and none of them does it |
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| 13:02.47 | ``Erik | brlcad: what os was that showing up on? O.o I hit default config on 5/6 os's, the only issues I saw were with broken libtools |
| 13:03.22 | ``Erik | ah, all my mac stuff was in X, using X, all X... |
| 13:05.57 | ``Erik | and all the stuff in DM_LIBS *SHOULD* be in libdm's "dependency_libs" variable... the .la should be the only thing ever needed, otherwise your libtool is broken or you're using it wrong |
| 13:07.01 | brlcad | Z80-Boy: -F/dev/Xl |
| 13:07.47 | Z80-Boy | brlcad: what? |
| 13:08.09 | brlcad | pix-fb -F/dev/Xl |
| 13:08.12 | brlcad | fbhelp |
| 13:08.23 | ``Erik | it's not a real /dev thing |
| 13:08.25 | Z80-Boy | *lol* |
| 13:08.28 | ``Erik | it's parsed in BRL-CAD |
| 13:08.30 | Z80-Boy | another secret hidden man |
| 13:08.40 | ``Erik | nah, it's in fbhelp and the libfb manpage and a few zillion other places |
| 13:08.59 | ``Erik | only place it isn't is the non-existant faq :D |
| 13:09.03 | Z80-Boy | brlcad: and what does -F/dev/Xl do? |
| 13:09.10 | ``Erik | dipslay to X, linger |
| 13:10.18 | Z80-Boy | another place where -F is not described is man pix-fb |
| 13:10.33 | Z80-Boy | I read the manpage before I wrote the patch |
| 13:11.30 | brlcad | Z80-Boy: well, you have to actually read the page, it does describe this |
| 13:11.42 | Z80-Boy | -F is only in one place - the synopsis |
| 13:11.47 | brlcad | man pix-fb .. very first paragraph says what? |
| 13:12.00 | Z80-Boy | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:12.13 | Z80-Boy | Whis is the same as "-F framebuffer" |
| 13:12.14 | brlcad | sentence right before that |
| 13:12.31 | Z80-Boy | says "after -F, you can stick something and that something is called framebuffer" |
| 13:12.41 | Z80-Boy | great, but doesn't imply that -F/dev/Xl makes it pause |
| 13:13.00 | Z80-Boy | The environ- ment variable FB_FILE specifies the current framebuffer, see brlcad(1). |
| 13:13.18 | brlcad | no, "The environment variable FB_FILE specifies the current framebuffer, see brlcad(1)." |
| 13:13.22 | Z80-Boy | MANPATH=/usr/brlcad/share/man/ man 1 brlcad |
| 13:13.27 | Z80-Boy | man: no entry for brlcad in section 1 of the manual. |
| 13:13.30 | Z80-Boy | *lol* |
| 13:13.57 | ``Erik | comes up for me O.o |
| 13:14.04 | brlcad | comes up for me to |
| 13:14.19 | Z80-Boy | comes up if I omit the 1 |
| 13:15.09 | Z80-Boy | was I supposed to look into man brl-cad and search for something? |
| 13:15.30 | brlcad | how about FB_FILE |
| 13:16.14 | brlcad | or read it all given that's a pretty comprehensive manpage, you'd probably get a lot of useful bits out of it |
| 13:16.19 | Z80-Boy | says that I can set up somem "framebuffer" |
| 13:16.26 | brlcad | it is "the" brlcad manpage after all |
| 13:16.26 | Z80-Boy | but doesn't say that /dev/Xl will make it pause |
| 13:16.47 | Z80-Boy | "Xl" even doesn't occur anywhere in man brlcad |
| 13:16.57 | brlcad | dude, it explains the entire interface in detail, how it all works |
| 13:17.13 | Z80-Boy | Maybe, but doesn't say that Xl makes it pause |
| 13:17.41 | brlcad | sure, and it doesn't say a thousand other things that might be interesting either |
| 13:17.57 | brlcad | it doesn't tell you where you can drive the car, it tells you how to drive |
| 13:18.07 | Z80-Boy | No it doesn't tell anything |
| 13:18.28 | brlcad | you're really not reading it then |
| 13:18.34 | Z80-Boy | the FB_FILE section of man brlcad basically says that -F specifies a "framebuffer", and the framebuffer is in format [hostname:]/dev/device_name[num] |
| 13:18.36 | brlcad | and you certainly couldn't have read it all by now |
| 13:19.10 | Z80-Boy | man 3 libfb again doesn't work... |
| 13:19.15 | Z80-Boy | has to be specified without the 3 |
| 13:19.45 | ``Erik | (actually, I haven't found linger in the manpages... but it is in 'fbhelp', a couple release notes, and mged_cmd_index.html) |
| 13:19.46 | Z80-Boy | see end of man 3 libfb... |
| 13:19.52 | Z80-Boy | ENd of man 3 libfb is BUG REPORTS. |
| 13:19.53 | brlcad | works here, there's something not working right with your manual pages |
| 13:20.14 | Z80-Boy | proof? |
| 13:20.46 | brlcad | of what? |
| 13:20.54 | Z80-Boy | That something is not working right with my manual pages |
| 13:21.01 | Z80-Boy | The devices listed in man 3 libfb are: |
| 13:21.01 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/util/brlcad.1: remove the references to /m/cad |
| 13:21.04 | Z80-Boy | /dev/debug[num] |
| 13:21.12 | Z80-Boy | filename |
| 13:21.16 | Z80-Boy | /dev/ik[num][opt] |
| 13:21.23 | Z80-Boy | /dev/sgi[num] |
| 13:21.31 | Z80-Boy | /dev/rat |
| 13:21.35 | Z80-Boy | hostname:[devicename] |
| 13:21.42 | brlcad | i mean the fact that you can't use the number, that should work if it's standard 'man' |
| 13:21.44 | Z80-Boy | No mention of /dev/Xl |
| 13:22.16 | Z80-Boy | what's the definition of term "standard" in relation to implementations of the 'man' program? |
| 13:22.37 | Z80-Boy | standard per POSIX? SUS? some RFC? |
| 13:23.08 | brlcad | posix would generally be the one |
| 13:23.08 | ``Erik | the number works on my obsd install |
| 13:23.25 | Z80-Boy | On my too |
| 13:23.30 | Z80-Boy | man 3 printf work |
| 13:23.30 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/libfb/libfb.3: mention fbhelp in the SEE ALSO |
| 13:23.43 | Z80-Boy | It just doesn't work with MANPATH=/usr/brlcad/share/man |
| 13:23.53 | ``Erik | using bash? |
| 13:24.06 | Z80-Boy | even MANPATH=/usr/brlcad/share/man man 3 printf works |
| 13:24.15 | brlcad | do you have anything in /usr/brlcad/man ? |
| 13:24.30 | Z80-Boy | /usr/brlcad/man doesn't exist |
| 13:24.34 | Z80-Boy | only /usr/brlcad exists. |
| 13:25.20 | brlcad | and is there /usr/brlcad/share/man/man1/brlcad.1 ? |
| 13:25.30 | Z80-Boy | yes |
| 13:26.02 | brlcad | then man 1 brlcad should work, something particular about your setup |
| 13:26.24 | brlcad | there's nothing special about manpages, they're just put into numbered folders |
| 13:26.45 | brlcad | you add that base to your MANPATH, and it searches the numbered folders for the numbered file |
| 13:27.05 | Z80-Boy | Obviously, only sometimes. |
| 13:27.17 | ``Erik | hum, interesting |
| 13:27.35 | ``Erik | if I try overriding the path, it doesn't work, but if I append the path to the variable in the environment, it works |
| 13:27.50 | ``Erik | using ksh |
| 13:28.10 | ``Erik | obsd must have some fu to avoid 'suspicious' overrides :/ |
| 13:28.15 | brlcad | hm, that is wierd |
| 13:28.17 | Z80-Boy | fu == ? |
| 13:28.28 | brlcad | maybe doesn't allow overrides at all? |
| 13:28.46 | brlcad | what does this do: PATH=/ ls |
| 13:28.57 | ``Erik | it takes that one |
| 13:29.00 | brlcad | hum |
| 13:29.01 | Z80-Boy | clock@kestrel:~$ PATH=/ ls |
| 13:29.01 | ``Erik | ls not found |
| 13:29.01 | Z80-Boy | bash: ls: command not found |
| 13:29.35 | brlcad | and MANPATH=/ man man ? |
| 13:29.48 | Z80-Boy | clock@kestrel:~$ MANPATH=/ man man |
| 13:29.48 | Z80-Boy | man: no entry for man in the manual. |
| 13:30.32 | brlcad | well, that's right too .. |
| 13:31.00 | Z80-Boy | MANPATH=/usr/brlcad/share/man man n brlcad works |
| 13:31.08 | Z80-Boy | MANPATH=/usr/brlcad/share/man man brlcad |
| 13:31.23 | Z80-Boy | MANPATH=/usr/brlcad/share/man man 1 brlcad doesn't |
| 13:31.25 | Z80-Boy | MANPATH=/usr/brlcad/share/man man 3 brlcad doesn't |
| 13:31.26 | Z80-Boy | MANPATH=/usr/brlcad/share/man man 5 brlcad doesn't |
| 13:31.43 | Z80-Boy | -> conclusion: the brlcad manpage must be in section "n" and not section 3, as erroneously stated |
| 13:32.49 | Z80-Boy | man brlcad says (3), it works when the section is specified as "n", and the brlcad.1 file is actually in the "man1" directory |
| 13:33.39 | Z80-Boy | it also works then the section is specified as "10", "19", "m" or "z". |
| 13:34.22 | brlcad | it's a section 1 header |
| 13:34.53 | brlcad | the fact that is shows up in n implies something else is going on, maybe a declaration missing in the file that it wants to see |
| 13:35.14 | brlcad | the TH is section one in the file |
| 13:35.15 | brlcad | .TH BRLCAD 1 BRL-CAD |
| 13:36.27 | brlcad | "man brlcad says (3)" .. where do you see that? |
| 13:37.13 | brlcad | the other specifications of "10", "19", "m" or "z" probably work because they're invalid and it finds it |
| 13:44.02 | ``Erik | mine says 1 on obsd |
| 13:44.24 | ``Erik | $ find /usr/brlcad -name brlcad.1 |
| 13:44.27 | ``Erik | /usr/brlcad/man/man1/brlcad.1 |
| 13:45.43 | brlcad | the fact that it came up for him in 'n' is interesting, I saw that many years ago on a configuration that I don't recall |
| 13:46.00 | brlcad | which man? |
| 13:46.34 | brlcad | i.e. file `which man` |
| 13:55.05 | brlcad | CIA-4: poke |
| 13:55.21 | ``Erik | kinky O.o |
| 13:55.46 | brlcad | probably overloaded again or something |
| 13:55.46 | brlcad | micah really should get that off his server |
| 13:56.08 | brlcad | such a flakey host with limited resources |
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| 14:06.53 | Z80-Boy | clock@kestrel:~$ file `which man` |
| 14:06.53 | Z80-Boy | /usr/bin/man: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1, for OpenBSD, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped |
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| 15:56.34 | ``Erik | *yawn* |
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| 16:30.29 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/other/blt/win/makedefs: look for 8.5 |
| 16:32.25 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/other/blt/library/ (pkgIndex.tcl.in pkgIndex.tcl): retemplatize pkgIndex.tcl so that the appropriate paths are searched for the blt library, include the source directory in the search just in case we're running uninstalled. |
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| 16:34.02 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/other/blt/Makefile.am: the library is expected to be named libBLT with another that includes the dotless version as a suffix. |
| 16:35.24 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/configure.ac: expand BLT_LIBRARY so it can be used in the blt pkgIndex.tcl file, generate the pkgIndex.tcl file and resort the src/other output entries correctly |
| 16:42.30 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/libdm/Makefile.am: ws |
| 17:44.56 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/librt/db_comb.c: prefix mat_categorize with db_comb_ to kill an XXX, even though it's static |
| 17:47.06 | ``Erik | huh, that's... scary. |
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| 18:07.41 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/mged/clone.c: pass a pointer instead of copying the string to stack |
| 18:11.24 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/mged/clone.c: minor simplification |
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| 18:59.25 | ``Erik | holy crap, |
| 19:01.43 | yukonbob | ?"v5" |
| 19:03.30 | ``Erik | .g version |
| 19:04.32 | Z80-Boy | ``Erik: should I report to sourceforget that brlman doesn't work? |
| 19:08.20 | ``Erik | um, it works for me on obsd41 with cvs head... O.o I'm not sure what's going on with your bo |
| 19:08.21 | ``Erik | x |
| 19:20.30 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/mged/clone.c: a mostly-functional v5 copy_v5_comb |
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| 20:33.03 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/mged/clone.c: some move to bu_vls strings |
| 20:41.03 | brlcad | ``Erik: shouldn't access vls_str directly, go through bu_vls_addr() |
| 20:41.49 | brlcad | vls_str isn't necessarily the string, it is optionally offset too depending on what vls operations you call |
| 20:42.01 | brlcad | addr gives you the char* |
| 20:49.43 | ``Erik | okie, didn't know O.o parse.c uses direct access extensively |
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| 20:52.49 | starseeker | brlcad: Thanks for adding me to the credits list :-) |
| 20:52.53 | brlcad | probably performance optimization |
| 20:53.06 | brlcad | starseeker: hey, you're the one doing the hard work :) |
| 20:53.36 | starseeker | Hehe - not so hard (yet), more like long distance running |
| 20:55.24 | yukonbob | brlcad: did you tell cvs to let me commit? |
| 20:55.32 | starseeker | yukonbob: He did |
| 20:55.36 | yukonbob | nice |
| 20:55.58 | starseeker | I think you left before he let you know |
| 20:56.34 | ``Erik | yukonbob == brad harder? |
| 20:56.42 | yukonbob | indeed |
| 20:56.45 | ``Erik | coo' |
| 20:57.00 | ``Erik | yeah, you're listed as 'content management' |
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