IRC log for #brlcad on 20071020

00:26.52*** part/#brlcad mikola (n=mikola@rmdsouza.wecn.sabo.mtu.edu)
00:42.02yukonbobbrlcad: "wrong way bob"  --- directed at me?
02:14.45brlcadno, the "other bob" :)
02:14.57brlcad``Erik: 3pm
02:24.57``Erikthanks
03:46.53starseekerbrlcad: on?
03:48.07louipcstarseeker: were you doing volumeII ?
03:48.44starseekerlouipc:  Yes, I started on it
03:49.01starseekerlouipc:  I'll be continuing if life ever returns to something resembling sanity...
03:49.35louipccool maybe I'll join in
03:49.43starseekerfeel free :-)
03:49.47louipcthere's so many things to be done
03:50.04starseekerMost of the markup is pretty rough - I'm anticipating doing a lot of reworking
03:50.16louipcI have to figure out which is the best itch to scratch
03:50.18starseekerI just wanted to have it "close" before staring the details
03:51.04starseekerHeh - know that feeling
03:52.30louipcwell I'm just talking about in brlcad alone haha
03:52.49louipccommand line creation of sketch primitives is one thing I'd like
03:52.52starseekerhehe - yeah there's plenty in there to keep any geek hypnotized
03:54.54louipcyeah that's something that would come later
03:56.03louipcnot silly at all. I'd like that too :D
03:57.33starseeker"download BRL-CAD, simulate the Apollo 11 moon landing!"
03:57.51louipcheh heh
03:58.00louipcI have trouble viewing havoc
03:58.09starseekeror for more explosive fun, maybe someone could dig up the Russian N1 blueprints...
03:58.55starseekerlouipc:  really?  what hardware are you running on?
03:59.25Supaplexhe upgraded. his 8088 has a coprocessor now.
03:59.33louipc866MHz PIII 384MB RAM
03:59.41starseekerOh no wonder.
04:00.05starseekerI was stuck about there for a long time too, maddening...
04:00.41louipcit's not so bad with linux
04:01.07starseekerWhat desktop do you run?
04:01.17louipcopenbox
04:01.38starseeker:-)
04:02.53starseekerIt's weird, but fluxbox seems to represent some kind of local optimum for me...
04:03.08starseekerstays out of the way, does what I need, light on resources.
04:03.46louipcthat's openbox pretty much
04:04.02louipcit's even simpler
04:04.07starseekerwow
04:04.17louipcI don't really like xml configs though
04:05.32starseeker"power" terminals seem so silly when you can just fire off xterms and dock them using the windowmanager itself.
04:05.33louipcso many apps have tabs now it's not really a big deal
04:05.53louipcI used tabs with multiple terms when I used fluxbox. now I just use screen
04:06.24starseekerTrue, but (for example) I can have firefox with docbook docs, emacs with volume II xml, and a terminal in the cvs archive all in a single tabbed group :-)
04:07.55louipcyeah
04:09.31louipcindeed
04:10.04yukonbob(reading from his screen'd irssi ;)
04:15.24yukonbob<sesame street>One of these things, isn't the same</sesame street>
04:19.43Supaplex... One of these things is not like the other
04:19.47Supaplexiirc :)
04:28.26louipcstarseeker: what's the path to the docbook files?
04:29.47starseekerdoc/book/
04:30.47louipcuh oh
04:30.52louipcdang cvs
04:47.37CIA-4BRL-CAD: 03johnranderson * 10brlcad/src/librt/g_arbn.c: When an arbn is imported with a non-identity matrix, the import routine assumes unit normal vectors. The code now unitizes the normals prior to applying the matrix. This fixes bug #1800148 - arbn is incorrectly mirrored
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12:11.35``Erikpussies
12:14.35MaloeranYou know that bx includes /detach and scr-bx? :)
12:26.52``Erikyes
12:26.59``Erikthat's the "miniscreen"
12:27.59``Erikbut if I accidently close the window or if there's a network hiccup that kills my ssh session, bx will quit... and right now, the screen on my fbsd server is running 8 windows and the one on my laptop has 3
12:28.54``Erikoften, the one running on the machine I'm at has each window named for the machine I'm ssh'd into there
12:29.23``Erikhardstatus alwayslastline "%{b}[ %{B}%H %{b}][ %{w}%?%-Lw%?%{b}(%{W}%n*%f %t%?(%u)%?%{b})%{w}%?%+Lw%?%?%= %{b}][%{B} %d/%m %{W}%C%a %{b}]"
12:29.40``Erikthat in the .screenrc helps a bit, at the cost of one row per screen level
12:34.27Maloeranbx is supposed to have a variable for detach_on_sighup or something, not that it worked for me
12:58.10``Erikgiven that I had other reasons to run screen on my server, I never bothered looking for something like that *shrug*
12:58.39``Erik'screen -d' is a big win, too
12:58.49``Erikfor when I forget to detach :D
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18:57.43IriX64http://rafb.net/p/8LvNR266.html    <------ does this happen on your copy too?
19:04.40IriX64i've got two other issues (this ones easy to fix) but bwish and mged both come up with tons of undefs to x functions, still trying to pin that down.
19:06.49IriX64http://rafb.net/p/IxISxf19.html <---- this ones easy to fix too.
19:07.48*** join/#brlcad butti (n=butti@e178104046.adsl.alicedsl.de)
19:07.53buttihello
19:08.12buttianybody home?
19:09.01louipcnope
19:09.08IriX64thank God he didn't use bu_bomb anywhere outside rtsrv.c
19:10.20buttii will install brlcad on my maschine
19:11.01buttibut maybe dont need to do that if the program dosnt import clean dxf from blender? what is your experience?
19:12.06IriX64rttherm suffers same as bwish and mged is it my system?
19:12.55buttido I get any answare?
19:13.53louipcI think you can import dxf
19:13.58louipcor convert it
19:14.10buttidid you try it with blender?
19:14.15louipcnope
19:14.21louipcsend me a file
19:14.27buttiI mean export file to dxf and tahn open that brl
19:14.32buttiin brlcad
19:14.37buttiok
19:14.45buttitrogh dcc?
19:14.52louipcdxf-g is the app you want in brlcad
19:15.10louipcI've never tried it though
19:15.12louipcbutti: yep
19:15.18IriX64that works i imported a shuttle pix with it
19:15.27IriX64shuttle.dxf
19:15.56IriX64that was on 7.8.4 tho
19:16.34buttidxf- g? /ddc send louipc /home/butti/Blender/Scenes/VM/vm20.dxf
19:16.38buttishit :)
19:16.58louipcdxf-g is the program to convert from dxf to brlcad format
19:17.18IriX64and it works :)
19:17.30buttiok where I get it?
19:17.40IriX64its part of brlcad
19:17.47IriX64look in brlcad/bin
19:18.02buttiI mean in qcad the file is not usable
19:18.06buttiok
19:18.22IriX64make install
19:18.33buttiI still download
19:18.41IriX64arghhh hate windows it doesn't know what i want to do :(
19:18.44butti28%
19:18.56buttiIriX64: :)
19:19.12IriX64:)
19:19.13louipchmm! I can't get this file!
19:19.21buttidont know why this server is so slow
19:19.30buttihmm
19:19.40louipc15:15 DCC no file offered by butti
19:19.49louipcbut it's in the list for some reason
19:19.51louipclol
19:19.55louipc(stalled)
19:20.22buttiwhy that?
19:20.52IriX64why does my copy say 7.11.0 now :)
19:20.57louipc15:17 DCC can't connect to 192.168.1.3 port 33160
19:21.16buttion my side?
19:21.37louipcI've been able to send dcc before without problems
19:21.40louipcit may be
19:21.59buttii will uload thatto the web
19:22.42louipcgood idea
19:28.09buttilouipc: did you get my msg?
19:31.38louipcyea
19:38.07*** join/#brlcad MinuteElectron (n=MinuteEl@silentflame/member/pdpc.base.minuteelectron)
19:38.28buttiso I leave, thank you boyes
19:38.35*** part/#brlcad butti (n=butti@e178104046.adsl.alicedsl.de)
19:38.38IriX64http://www3.sympatico.ca/mario.dulisse2/7.11.0.png  < ---- a forced build but it sorta works
19:59.23IriX64more to do, later all :)
20:24.30*** part/#brlcad crotchetyGuy (n=brent@75-167-160-25.bois.qwest.net)
20:47.56Z80-Boywoohoo! The arbn bug fixed!
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21:07.01louipcbrlcad feels so european
21:07.10louipcmm units as default
21:07.15louipc1st angle projection
21:29.51yukonboblouipc: if using mm and feeling uropean is too foreign for you, feel C
21:30.02yukonboblouipc: if using mm and feeling European is too foreign for you, feel Canadian instead...
22:52.43*** join/#brlcad IriX64 (n=mariodot@bas2-sudbury98-1177879294.dsl.bell.ca)
22:53.26IriX64http://rafb.net/p/GkbXsx62.html   <----- do you know about this one? dg_obj uses static, raytrace.h use non static, which is right?
22:54.47IriX64err wait
22:57.35IriX64oh man what gives?
23:00.24IriX64ill rename the one in dgo_obj.c to dgo_tree_cmd_dgo doesn't appear to be used anywhere else.
23:08.58IriX64compiles
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23:28.08incalizondocant connect to fb server on port 5559
23:28.17incalizondoanyone out there get that?
23:29.07incalizondognube here,,,,,mged wont render
23:29.34IriX64exec fbserv -S 512 1 /dev/X &        what happens?
23:30.28incalizondo[zondo@localhost ~]$ exec fbserv -S 512 1 /dev/X &
23:30.29incalizondo[1] 2042
23:30.29incalizondo[zondo@localhost ~]$ X Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)
23:30.29incalizondo<PROTECTED>
23:30.29incalizondo<PROTECTED>
23:30.29incalizondo<PROTECTED>
23:30.31incalizondo<PROTECTED>
23:30.33incalizondothat
23:31.03IriX64man i meant from mged :)
23:31.25incalizondohahahaha oh dam
23:33.34IriX64if it comes up use 1 as the port number for any programs that need to know the port number
23:33.57incalizondoa box flashed up and was gone real fast ,,,,
23:34.05incalizondo2049
23:34.17IriX64try /dev/ogl
23:34.26incalizondois what was lewft in the mged shell
23:34.47IriX64what version brlcad?
23:36.26incalizondook trying ogl created a large black area,,,,,really hard to see whats what
23:36.56IriX64thats your frame buffer, now bring something up and use rt to render it
23:38.52incalizondono dice
23:39.59IriX64what did you type?
23:40.14incalizondodo i have to connect to a display manager when i start mged,,,,like when you create a new data.g?
23:40.28incalizondoi didnt type i used to gui command
23:40.38incalizondothe gui command
23:40.48IriX64think connecting is required
23:41.01IriX64try rtedge --help
23:41.07IriX64or rt --help
23:41.43IriX64and be aware i know less then most folks about brlcad operation.
23:42.39incalizondosomeone screamed dinner was ready :d ty 4 de help
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23:59.41``Erikeck, my feets O.o not used to standing so much, heh

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