| 00:45.58 | louipc | hurrah |
| 00:57.22 | Maloeran | "I regret to inform you that there is no return policy for the Vista software, either as a refund or a credit from HP." Hum... |
| 00:57.31 | starseeker | TCL 8.5 is out???? |
| 00:59.44 | starseeker | I'll be doggoned: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=10894&package_id=10452 |
| 01:00.13 | starseeker | Well, that could simplify matters... |
| 01:05.13 | louipc | Maloeran: sorry |
| 01:05.56 | louipc | I wouldn't think you'd be the type of person to buy a ready-made computer |
| 01:18.07 | Maloeran | louipc, it's difficult to do otherwise with a laptop |
| 01:18.46 | Maloeran | I really searched for laptops without an OS but they had to be shipped, and I didn't have time for that before I fly to Venezuela |
| 01:18.58 | louipc | ah |
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| 09:34.04 | michelangelo | Hi guys |
| 09:34.16 | michelangelo | I'm interested in BRL-CAD |
| 09:34.37 | michelangelo | I need to understand if it can helps me |
| 09:35.00 | michelangelo | is there anybody here? |
| 09:36.34 | London_Beast | yes |
| 09:38.51 | michelangelo | hi London_Beast |
| 09:39.22 | michelangelo | I need to create a cad to build/compose a kitchen |
| 09:39.53 | michelangelo | but I don't know where I have to start |
| 09:42.47 | michelangelo | any ideas? |
| 09:43.16 | alex_joni | michelangelo: what is the goal of that? |
| 09:43.33 | alex_joni | pictures to show around? media presentation? |
| 09:43.36 | michelangelo | I have to build a project that create a kitchen |
| 09:43.56 | alex_joni | do you need to design all furniture/appliances? |
| 09:44.07 | michelangelo | yes, too |
| 09:44.21 | alex_joni | then you'll looking at quite a bit of work :) |
| 09:44.37 | michelangelo | I need to move the objects on the screen |
| 09:45.25 | michelangelo | and positioning them one near the other |
| 09:45.27 | michelangelo | and at the end print the image |
| 09:45.37 | michelangelo | is it possible? |
| 09:45.38 | alex_joni | do you care about precise sizes and models? |
| 09:45.42 | alex_joni | or more that it looks right? |
| 09:45.44 | michelangelo | yes |
| 09:46.18 | michelangelo | I have my catalogues |
| 09:46.32 | michelangelo | with all graphical sheet |
| 09:47.16 | michelangelo | I can create them with a cad like autocad and then import them in the software on line |
| 09:53.20 | michelangelo | any ideas |
| 09:53.21 | michelangelo | ? |
| 09:53.48 | alex_joni | michelangelo: if you're new with software like this I'd give google sketchup a go |
| 09:54.24 | michelangelo | I know sketchup but it is a standalone |
| 09:54.31 | michelangelo | not a online cad |
| 09:54.37 | alex_joni | sure it is |
| 09:54.57 | alex_joni | you can put models online if you want, but it runs locally |
| 09:55.26 | alex_joni | http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=9cc30db305f2bb7bde6df08b6b6b91c9&prevstart=0 |
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| 11:51.43 | Maloeran | Gah. This laptop freezes with a horrible beep randomly within a couple hours with Linux, there must be some driver it really does not like |
| 12:15.38 | Maloeran | It would be very ugly to have to pass acpi=off on a laptop |
| 12:25.29 | alex_joni | Maloeran: did you run memtest? |
| 12:50.23 | Maloeran | Yes, no problem there |
| 12:55.21 | alex_joni | how long? |
| 13:13.36 | Maloeran | I ran memtest until it completed. The freeze/beep occurs after a couple hours typically |
| 13:13.52 | Maloeran | I had no problem so far with aspi=off but that really is not a solution for a laptop |
| 13:15.12 | Maloeran | The laptop had been compiling for hours yesterday just fine, it froze with a loud beep during the night once the compilation was complete |
| 13:34.51 | alex_joni | Maloeran: I'd still leave memtest overnight to see if that catches anything |
| 13:35.00 | alex_joni | might be heat related |
| 13:41.56 | Maloeran | It might be heat related, the problem seems to occur when the laptop gets too cold... It's fine as long as it's busy compiling :), probably because acpi power management kicks in |
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| 13:48.48 | sidyork | Hi, I'm wondering if anyone has had any luck in running brlcad on os X 10.5? |
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| 13:52.17 | Axman6 | sidyork: heh, funny you mention it... |
| 13:52.29 | Axman6 | ooo, i should see if it builds now i have the X11 patch! |
| 13:53.24 | sidyork | I tried the pre-buil binary but it errors out when launching mged |
| 13:55.25 | Axman6 | which error? |
| 13:56.11 | sidyork | I've just deleted it but I'll reinstall now and paste the error message. |
| 13:56.34 | Axman6 | something about fore foundation? |
| 13:57.07 | Axman6 | core* |
| 13:57.30 | sidyork | yep, that was it |
| 13:59.37 | Axman6 | yeah i donated my MBP to brlcad to see if he could fix it, but not luck so far |
| 14:00.22 | Axman6 | checking again though, because i installed an X11 patch |
| 14:00.39 | sidyork | I'm specifically after some open source software to model some simple 3D structures for our machine shop. Do you think brlcad is suitable, I've had a read of the documentation so I understand there is a learning curve. |
| 14:00.57 | sidyork | I'm not sure you'll have much luck, I had the patch installed when I tried. |
| 14:01.25 | Axman6 | the patch from macosforge? |
| 14:01.45 | London_Beast | Has anyone read Aldous Huxley - Doors of Perception? |
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| 14:02.07 | sidyork_ | Yep |
| 14:02.53 | London_Beast | sidyork_: is it good? |
| 14:02.58 | London_Beast | Does it have pictures? |
| 14:03.16 | London_Beast | Is it written in a complicated language where you have to concentrate a lot to follow the thread? |
| 14:03.57 | Axman6 | i think that yep might ave been for me... |
| 14:05.01 | sidyork_ | Sorry, the yep was for axman6, I'm not a very experienced irc'er |
| 14:07.14 | sidyork_ | axman6: thanks for the help, I'll wait until they release a version for 10.5 |
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| 14:18.08 | Axman6 | ok, it doesn't work with the ipv6 variant |
| 14:18.27 | Axman6 | whoops |
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| 15:11.22 | London_Beast | brlcad: listening to Iggy Pop, I realized that from the BRL-CAD the 70's are still breathing at me :) |
| 15:12.14 | minute | brlcad: If you get a moment can you screenshot the problems in Safari 2, I only have Safari 3? |
| 15:13.14 | Axman6 | minute: you talking about the new site? |
| 15:13.45 | minute | yeah |
| 15:13.53 | Axman6 | i noticed some issues in safari 3 too |
| 15:13.59 | minute | Did you? |
| 15:14.08 | brlcad | minute: I don't have safari 2 |
| 15:14.17 | minute | brlcad: Oh, ok.... |
| 15:14.29 | Axman6 | which appear to be gone now... |
| 15:14.50 | brlcad | motd is still horked, but that's probably just not hooked in? |
| 15:15.06 | Axman6 | yeah it's fine now. excellent |
| 15:15.16 | minute | brlcad: motd? |
| 15:15.38 | brlcad | the quotes at the bottom |
| 15:15.45 | minute | oh yeah |
| 15:16.14 | brlcad | download link is dead too |
| 15:16.22 | brlcad | but that's just data content |
| 15:16.26 | brlcad | style looks great on 3 |
| 15:16.40 | minute | :) |
| 15:21.57 | minute | Download link fixed. |
| 15:23.06 | minute | Quotes fixed. |
| 15:32.19 | brlcad | looks great on opera, firefox, and safari here |
| 15:32.22 | minute | Oh god, I'm so slow. Been developing this site for 5 months 4 weeks. :S |
| 15:33.18 | minute | brlcad: Yeah, fully tested in all of them appart from one little problem I'm working on at the moment. I just need to fix the logo text thing in Internet Explorer and then I think it's good to go except for LDAP not being enabled. |
| 15:33.53 | brlcad | hehe |
| 15:33.54 | alex_joni | minute: I get an extra bottom scrollbar in opera |
| 15:33.59 | brlcad | awesome pic for the runtime libs :) |
| 15:34.03 | alex_joni | but only for "Documentation" |
| 15:34.11 | minute | brlcad: hehe |
| 15:34.16 | minute | alex_joni: I'll take a look. |
| 15:34.22 | alex_joni | minute: and "Support" |
| 15:34.31 | minute | alex_joni: 9.2? |
| 15:35.03 | alex_joni | Version |
| 15:35.04 | alex_joni | 9.24 |
| 15:35.13 | alex_joni | Build: 8816 |
| 15:35.13 | minute | alex_joni: Can you try purging your cache? (Ctrl+Shift+R) |
| 15:35.15 | brlcad | minute: the timing is perfect, can announce the site on our anniversary :) |
| 15:35.24 | minute | brlcad: :D |
| 15:35.40 | minute | brlcad: What date is that? |
| 15:35.42 | alex_joni | minute: no difference |
| 15:36.09 | brlcad | minute: today.. :) |
| 15:36.12 | minute | alex_joni: Can you upload a screenshot to imagebin.ca |
| 15:36.21 | minute | brlcad: :S |
| 15:36.28 | alex_joni | minute: sure.. |
| 15:36.34 | minute | thanks |
| 15:37.49 | alex_joni | http://imagebin.org/12545 |
| 15:38.28 | minute | uh, odd |
| 15:39.12 | minute | I can't replicate that... |
| 15:39.25 | brlcad | is it only on the mediawiki pages? |
| 15:39.44 | minute | Nope. |
| 15:39.54 | minute | Apparently support and documentation. |
| 15:40.19 | alex_joni | minute: on pages which have "go" & "search" |
| 15:40.30 | brlcad | those two are mediawiki pages :) |
| 15:40.31 | minute | ahh, so mediawiki only then |
| 15:40.32 | alex_joni | pages with "search" only are fine |
| 15:40.33 | minute | lol |
| 15:40.34 | minute | hehe |
| 15:40.52 | minute | Working on it... |
| 15:41.14 | brlcad | maybe just missing a close brace? that tab should be self-expanding now |
| 15:41.33 | brlcad | oooh |
| 15:41.36 | alex_joni | the odd thing is that the extra scrollbar only moves the footer |
| 15:41.36 | brlcad | that's why |
| 15:41.43 | brlcad | minute: scale your font up |
| 15:41.55 | brlcad | i think you used an older copy of the search tabs |
| 15:41.59 | brlcad | one that doesn't expand |
| 15:42.30 | brlcad | or in migrating, just missing something that lets it expand to the content |
| 15:42.35 | prasad_ | why is the bottom frame causing scrollbabars to appear on IE7 |
| 15:43.02 | minute | Ahh, I remember - it has a bug in IE. |
| 15:43.13 | minute | When it is self expanding it works fine in all browsers except IE. |
| 15:43.32 | prasad_ | can u turn off scrollbars for ie? |
| 15:44.33 | alex_joni | yuck.. IE7 is really horrible |
| 15:44.49 | alex_joni | wouldn't have noticed though.. I barely use it |
| 15:45.27 | minute | alex_joni: Is the problem in Opera fixed? |
| 15:46.16 | alex_joni | minute: yup.. looks great |
| 15:46.42 | alex_joni | minute: http://imagebin.org/12546 <- IE7 |
| 15:47.02 | minute | man |
| 15:47.11 | minute | I wish I had IE7 and not just IE6. |
| 15:47.34 | alex_joni | minute: I think I remember a plugin for firefox to preview in multiple browsers |
| 15:47.56 | alex_joni | I think it interpreted pages to replicate browser behaviour.. but I'm not 100% sure |
| 15:48.27 | minute | oh |
| 15:49.43 | minute | Running system restore in preperation for installing IE7 and IE6 in parralel. |
| 15:58.01 | minute | Ok, it doesn't look too bad in IE7 here. |
| 15:58.49 | minute | Working on it. |
| 16:00.56 | minute | Fixored. |
| 16:01.51 | minute | alex_joni: Can you confirm? |
| 16:02.15 | alex_joni | minute: in opera it's great |
| 16:02.23 | alex_joni | in IE7 I still get the bottom scrollbar |
| 16:02.27 | minute | alex_joni: What about the documentation page in IE7? |
| 16:02.35 | alex_joni | on all pages |
| 16:02.39 | minute | The About page has special Drupal caching. |
| 16:02.51 | minute | alex_joni: Can you Ctrl+F5 on the Documentation page? |
| 16:03.16 | alex_joni | the top div (About, Documentation, COmmunity, Develpment,..) seems to small |
| 16:03.20 | alex_joni | text is off to the right |
| 16:04.44 | alex_joni | http://imagebin.org/12547 |
| 16:05.13 | alex_joni | minute: it's the same on all pages |
| 16:06.33 | minute | hmm |
| 16:09.07 | alex_joni | IE 7.0.5730.11 |
| 16:09.59 | minute | Yeah, it is something to do with font sizes. |
| 16:10.26 | minute | alex_joni: Any good now? |
| 16:37.28 | alex_joni | minute: yay.. |
| 16:37.46 | alex_joni | it's not round anymore, but looks good enough |
| 16:40.31 | minute | oh, I'll look into that - but I guess it is good to go. |
| 16:53.28 | alex_joni | yup, I'd say so too |
| 16:53.55 | minute | except for IE6. I'll deal with that now |
| 16:54.05 | yukonbob | hello, cadheads |
| 16:56.36 | minute | yukonbob: Hey yukonbob. |
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| 17:01.29 | yukonbob | hey minute -- having fun whacking bugs on the website? |
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| 22:57.06 | minute | yukonbob: Yeah, sorry about the slow response - had a chinese takeout at a friends house - have you noticed any? |
| 22:57.47 | minute | brlcad: I'm working on the IE 6 and lower header text right now - anything else you can see that is prventing us with going ahead with a release (other than LDAP, of course). |
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| 23:20.26 | minute | And I need to get myself a better graphics editing program than the GIMP. |
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| 23:48.33 | minute | Maybe not, night night all. |