| 05:29.48 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31056 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/mirror.c: synopsis is implied first line with doxygen comments |
| 06:07.41 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31057 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/ (log.c mirror.c): with the cleanup, move the doxygen comments into the public interface header where they belong instead of in the sources. make argv an array of pointers like main() |
| 06:09.38 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31058 10/brlcad/trunk/ (5 files in 3 dirs): convert the wmater command as another test case, moving it from mged up into libged as ged_wmater(). still lots of room for improvement. |
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| 13:09.35 | brlcad | morning homovulgaris |
| 13:10.26 | archivist | hehe what a nick |
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| 13:19.31 | homovulgaris | hi everybody :) |
| 13:20.36 | homovulgaris | hi sean, i had got a mail from john.. :) military contractor sounds so spy-moviesque :) |
| 13:20.46 | homovulgaris | over the next 2 or 3 days i will wrap up the root solver test cases for the modification. |
| 13:21.15 | homovulgaris | finalizing the libpg system would obviously take most of this month i guess ? |
| 13:22.15 | brlcad | i doubt it'll be "finalized" really, but probably enough to get started ;) |
| 13:22.41 | homovulgaris | yeah :) thought as much ;) |
| 13:23.01 | homovulgaris | last 2 days i have been translating my thesis model which i made in CATIA into .g via iges :) |
| 13:23.36 | brlcad | I still have questions/comments about how it integrates with librt, but I have to reread your latest writeup |
| 13:24.05 | homovulgaris | yeah.. in fact i need to edit it myself .. |
| 13:24.07 | brlcad | what kind of iges conversion? |
| 13:24.12 | homovulgaris | i will modify it and u can go over that tomorrow |
| 13:24.22 | brlcad | polygonal or nurbs surfaced? |
| 13:24.25 | brlcad | okay |
| 13:24.26 | homovulgaris | iges-g |
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| 13:24.34 | brlcad | yeah, but which mode |
| 13:24.34 | homovulgaris | nurbs surfaced |
| 13:24.38 | brlcad | okay |
| 13:25.12 | brlcad | it'll render but that's rather experimental / unstable code, lots of issues |
| 13:25.32 | brlcad | the old nurbs code falls flat on a lot of cases (as does the new nurbs code for that matter) :) |
| 13:25.45 | homovulgaris | yeah.. only got parts of my model |
| 13:26.05 | homovulgaris | i was playing with other options of iges-g |
| 13:26.19 | homovulgaris | i'll update the wiki and send a mail to the developer list |
| 13:27.35 | brlcad | cool |
| 13:28.50 | homovulgaris | i was also reading the documentation trying to model ;) kind of a methodological change opposed to CATIA :) |
| 13:29.07 | homovulgaris | or even the more mouse-on approach of other modelers ;) |
| 13:30.03 | brlcad | quite |
| 13:30.32 | brlcad | something that is slowly being changed, but not until we have full hybrid representation support, brep in particular |
| 13:31.37 | brlcad | part of mafm's project is the start at a new gui that changes some of the fundamental methodologies that mged uses |
| 13:32.15 | brlcad | not so tightly coupled modalities |
| 13:33.14 | homovulgaris | yeah i read his synopsis at soc site |
| 13:33.23 | homovulgaris | new gui would be cool.. |
| 13:33.43 | homovulgaris | one of my friends tried using brl-cad and couldnt figure out much ;) |
| 13:33.53 | homovulgaris | we are not so high on user-friendliness :) |
| 13:33.54 | brlcad | there's no "figuring out" with mged |
| 13:34.08 | brlcad | you HAVE to go through the tutorials and training just to understand the basics |
| 13:34.12 | homovulgaris | :D |
| 13:34.35 | homovulgaris | true :) |
| 13:34.43 | brlcad | i mean it's quite powerful once you do, expert brl-cad modelers are pretty much on par with other cad systems but the learning curve is huge |
| 13:35.40 | homovulgaris | is there a repository of some of the models and works done in brl-cad ? |
| 13:35.42 | brlcad | there's a lot of power "under the hood" too that not even mged exposes sometimes, that are in other outboard tools |
| 13:35.59 | brlcad | only the same geometry databases in db/ |
| 13:36.05 | brlcad | s/same/sample/ |
| 13:36.24 | homovulgaris | hmm.. |
| 13:36.27 | brlcad | or rather .. there is a repository, a big one |
| 13:36.30 | brlcad | but not one you can get at |
| 13:36.52 | homovulgaris | :) thought so ;) |
| 13:37.16 | brlcad | there's a model for just about any modern military asset of significance |
| 13:37.46 | brlcad | hundreds in detail down to the wire |
| 13:38.07 | homovulgaris | can imagine :) |
| 13:39.06 | brlcad | the havoc helicopter is available though, that one is in db/ |
| 13:46.29 | homovulgaris | yeah that looks pretty kewl indeed :) |
| 13:49.53 | homovulgaris | what about the snapshot at sourceforge .. that is one good render ;) |
| 13:49.55 | homovulgaris | stryker icw |
| 13:50.33 | homovulgaris | stryker icv |
| 14:05.15 | brlcad | that's using the adrt path tracer (src/adrt) |
| 14:05.36 | brlcad | but no, the model's not available :) |
| 14:05.46 | ``Erik | src/adrt/rise actually, which very much doesn't work right now O:-) |
| 14:08.01 | starseeker_ | There are a couple other models here: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?atid=641557&group_id=105292&func=browse but nothing earth shattering |
| 14:23.45 | Maloeran | The havoc model seemed to break when I tried to triangulate it with asc2g and extract the triangles long ago, some parts were missing I think |
| 14:25.33 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r31059 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/rmater.c: Imported from MGED. |
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| 15:16.44 | andrecastelo | hey guys, morning :D |
| 15:20.04 | ``Erik | howdy |
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| 15:29.31 | docelic | Hey folks, you know what's MIPSPro's equivalent of -rdynamic? |
| 16:02.23 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r31060 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc8/libged/libged.vcproj: Added rmater.c and wmater.c |
| 16:02.23 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r31061 10/brlcad/trunk/include/ged.h: Added declaration for get_rmater. |
| 16:18.49 | andrecastelo | ``Erik: i sent a patch this weekend, don't know if it's good ;) |
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| 17:14.36 | yukonbob | morning, cadheads |
| 18:00.44 | ``Erik | hrm |
| 18:04.58 | starseeker | hrm? |
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| 18:08.58 | Russ_W_ | I just installed the .deb for ubuntu but I don't see how to start brl-cad. What do you type or click to start brl-cad? |
| 18:12.35 | starseeker | BRL-CAD has a lot of tools - you probably want to start with mged |
| 18:14.45 | louipc | that question needs to be put in an FAQ or something |
| 18:19.08 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r31065 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/ (log.c mirror.c rmater.c wmater.c): Simplify the arg handling logic a bit. |
| 18:20.05 | brlcad | howdy Russ_W_, run /usr/brlcad/bin/mged |
| 18:20.07 | brlcad | louipc: indeed |
| 18:21.09 | yukonbob | louipc: wiki it up :) |
| 18:21.39 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r31066 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/item.c: Imported from MGED. |
| 18:22.03 | yukonbob | thinks BRL-CAD should install a kernel hack that displays a [START] button on the screen, specifically for mged |
| 18:23.26 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r31067 10/brlcad/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): MGED's item command moved to libged. |
| 18:24.02 | yukonbob | [Start->mged] [Start->Shutdown] [Start->http://www.google.ca?query=wtf%20how%20do%20I%20draw%20a%20tank] |
| 18:24.05 | brlcad | yukonbob: a simple terminal interface that would be preconfigured for brl-cad tools and have buttons for mged and others is on the todo ;) |
| 18:24.23 | yukonbob | !really |
| 18:24.27 | yukonbob | was obviously joking... |
| 18:24.41 | brlcad | so it would be a double-clickable item that could be installed |
| 18:24.44 | yukonbob | brlcad: via curses, or TBD? |
| 18:24.52 | brlcad | knows, but there's some merit to some of the idea ;) |
| 18:25.03 | brlcad | ideally a full-fledged terminal |
| 18:25.07 | yukonbob | "The truest thruths are said in jest" |
| 18:25.12 | louipc | hmm does that captcha on the wiki require javascript |
| 18:25.19 | yukonbob | louipc: yup |
| 18:25.19 | brlcad | I played with one in Tcl and other using pdksh with a custom terminal |
| 18:25.27 | louipc | oh heh |
| 18:25.30 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r31068 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/ (CMakeLists.txt Makefile.am): MGED's item command moved to libged. |
| 18:25.31 | brlcad | the issue I ran into was how to neatly get a pstty on windows |
| 18:25.41 | brlcad | s/pstty/ptty/ |
| 18:25.43 | yukonbob | nods |
| 18:26.16 | yukonbob | wouldn't think Tcl is actually well suited for a screen-oriented display -- unless it's a scrolling (ie: non-addressable) menu |
| 18:26.17 | brlcad | the tcl approach kinda works around that problem, but gives me no termio controls without extra effort |
| 18:26.59 | yukonbob | :) |
| 18:26.59 | brlcad | basically a tcl/tk terminal applicaitons |
| 18:27.07 | brlcad | and in that, I'd run something like pdksh |
| 18:29.17 | brlcad | have it preconfigure the PATH, MANPATH, and LD_LIBRARY_PATH (if needed) so everything just works |
| 18:29.40 | brlcad | add in some buttons on the gui for fast-access to mged, archer, rtwizard, bwish, etc |
| 18:34.54 | louipc | FAQ item added |
| 18:46.42 | brlcad | cool |
| 19:07.18 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03louipc * r31069 10/brlcad/trunk/INSTALL: |
| 19:07.18 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: Fix a couple of typos. Put TOC in correct order. |
| 19:07.18 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: Add header for Post-Installation section. |
| 19:41.15 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r31070 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/wdb_obj.c: Added entries for the item and rmater commands. |
| 21:33.43 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r31071 10/brlcad/trunk/src/mged/mged.h: Minor formatting. |
| 22:01.59 | pacman87 | woohoo, done with finals |
| 22:02.30 | pacman87 | i'll be back tomorrow, moving back home tonight |
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| 22:19.18 | LetterRip | anyone know of software related to process simulations that is under an open license? ie simulation of tanks, instrumentation for detecting levels, valves, etc |
| 22:20.45 | LetterRip | wait think i've found one |
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| 22:54.51 | brlcad | heh |
| 22:55.05 | brlcad | ooh, neat .. dual cloaks |
| 23:02.32 | PrezKennedy | so he finds it and then doesnt even say what it is... |
| 23:15.49 | brlcad | "BZFlag" |