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| 02:25.05 | pacman87 | anyone else have an idea as to why rt fails on hyp? |
| 02:32.51 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r31270 10/brlcad/trunk/src/nirt/sfiles/ (csv-gap.nrt csv.nrt): tweak formatting in csv output |
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| 04:02.52 | brlcad | pacman87: are you running rt from inside mged? |
| 04:03.44 | brlcad | (heh) .. dont' do that :) |
| 04:04.01 | brlcad | run rt directly on the unix command line, or via gdb, but not via mged |
| 04:04.39 | brlcad | mged kicks off the rt binary, so none of your ray-trace symbols can get caught by gdb because it's in mged not rt |
| 04:07.26 | brlcad | gdb lets you set the break points simply because mged is also reliant upon librt, but it doesn't use it for ray-tracing, it uses it for geometry services (I/O, editing, etc) |
| 04:11.30 | brlcad | andrecastelo: woot, thx for the update :) |
| 04:12.13 | andrecastelo | brlcad: sorry for taking so long |
| 04:12.59 | brlcad | no problem, it's progress :) |
| 04:18.37 | brlcad | don't be shy about those "week #1" questions for the first phase |
| 04:18.59 | brlcad | that's all pretty staple brl-cad services work |
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| 04:57.44 | poolio | brlcad: so did you figure out what to do with librt yet? :) |
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| 08:48.56 | clock_ | Sorry for offtopic |
| 08:49.01 | clock_ | Anyone been in San Francisco? |
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| 11:43.49 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03d_rossberg * r31271 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/table.c: enable asc2g for hyp (elliptical hyperboloid of one sheet) |
| 11:44.53 | d_rossberg | pacman87: you have to initialize hyp in rt_hyp_prep (it has to point to some valid memory) |
| 11:45.38 | d_rossberg | clock_: 10 years ago |
| 11:58.50 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03johnranderson * r31272 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librtserver/rtserver.c: Corrected calculation of obliquities |
| 12:19.59 | clock_ | d_rossberg: is it like a crowded city? |
| 12:29.59 | d_rossberg | no, it's a very nice city, more european (e.g. in opposite to Los Angeles) |
| 12:32.04 | clock_ | What do you mean with more european? |
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| 12:35.55 | d_rossberg | it has a centre, some historic buildings, i.e. somebody from europe should feel comfortable there |
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| 12:38.50 | clock_ | Los Angeles has no centre and buildings are modern? |
| 12:43.33 | d_rossberg | no centre in "european" meaning: in the centre district you will find some high buldings (e.g. the round one from "Independence Day") but this is a place for business and not a tourists |
| 12:45.42 | d_rossberg | the touristic centres are spreaded over a large area, e.g. Hollywood boulevard, Disnayland, UniversalStudios, museums, etc. |
| 12:46.19 | d_rossberg | the area of Los Angeles (and its satalite cities) is gigantic |
| 12:47.24 | d_rossberg | (sorry, "sattelite") |
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| 12:57.12 | clock_ | Is it true that Los Angeles has high air pollution? |
| 12:59.17 | brlcad | yep, you can see it from a distance quite clearly |
| 12:59.41 | brlcad | LA really is *huge* in comparison to most cities .. it's very much spread out |
| 12:59.44 | clock_ | And San Francisco? |
| 12:59.50 | brlcad | completely different |
| 13:00.03 | clock_ | Does LA reach to the shore? Like Santa Monica etc.? Is it already part of the LA? |
| 13:00.06 | brlcad | only thing they have in common is they're both in the same state |
| 13:00.12 | ``Erik | even sf doesn't have the same center construction as most european cities, afaik |
| 13:00.32 | ``Erik | very few US cities have the notion :( |
| 13:00.48 | ``Erik | it's all "new", built more for cars than anything else |
| 13:00.55 | ``Erik | as far as I can tell :) |
| 13:01.06 | ``Erik | being able to walk to anything I wanted to go to in japan was weird |
| 13:01.16 | clock_ | brlcad: query |
| 13:03.29 | ``Erik | *buildbuildbuild* |
| 13:03.47 | ``Erik | I don't like how asc2g and g2asc have all primitive logic in them, they should delegate that to librt imho :/ |
| 13:04.12 | ``Erik | unless asc is deprecated (it seems very tied to v4) |
| 13:17.15 | starseeker | ``Erik: I think asc is how we store models in svn |
| 13:17.32 | starseeker | ``Erik: That does sound weird that there is primitive logic in them |
| 13:17.45 | ``Erik | it is |
| 13:18.09 | starseeker | uses g2asc and then asc2g to remove size creepage |
| 13:18.15 | ``Erik | but unlike cvs, svn stores xdelta info for binaries, ... just seems like something that needs to be addressed |
| 13:18.45 | ``Erik | heh, do we need an fsck_g to fix/compress? :D |
| 13:19.08 | starseeker | I asked brlcad about that a while back - can't remember what the answer was... |
| 13:19.24 | ``Erik | was probably "sure, go do that!" or something of that nature :) |
| 13:19.28 | brlcad | there already is a command to compress not that it's coming to me at the moment |
| 13:19.30 | starseeker | I think it was when I was doing my earth model - it was waaaaay bigger than a few spheres and arbs needed |
| 13:19.44 | brlcad | there are three or four places in the code that have per-primitive logic |
| 13:19.50 | brlcad | that would be good to merge back up into librt |
| 13:20.01 | brlcad | just hasn't happened |
| 13:20.03 | brlcad | refactor ftw |
| 13:20.18 | starseeker | ``Erik: "go do it" ;-) |
| 13:20.24 | ``Erik | heh, that word still sends chills down my spine :/ |
| 13:20.50 | ``Erik | "refactor"... watching a group attempt to replace things like thinking, planning, design, etc with "refactor it"... *shudder* |
| 13:21.52 | brlcad | asc conversion, mirror, typein, soledit to name a few |
| 13:22.32 | starseeker | makes note to find the compress command |
| 13:25.49 | brlcad | i think it's garbage_collect |
| 13:25.52 | brlcad | or something like that |
| 13:26.13 | brlcad | it's a dev command, not a user command |
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| 13:46.51 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31273 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: bob modified mged nirt command to include air in results (now passes the -u 1 option to nirt) |
| 13:46.55 | brlcad | hello karlprof-cgiirc |
| 13:47.41 | karlprof-cgiirc | hello, I am afraid I am abusing your fantastic cgiirc service because my pc is being odd |
| 13:49.16 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31274 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/argv.c: fix the header, this isn't vls.c |
| 13:49.29 | brlcad | karlprof-cgiirc: no problem, though I can't see how you'd "abuse" it :) |
| 13:49.58 | brlcad | it doesn't allow connections to anywhere but channels relevant to our needs |
| 13:50.52 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31275 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/argv.c: unnecessary headers |
| 13:51.04 | karlprof-cgiirc | I need to send some queries out to helpful people :) relating to aforementioned oddness |
| 13:51.35 | brlcad | ah, k |
| 13:51.38 | karlprof-cgiirc | Apologies for any inconvinience or unnessessary strain on your web server |
| 13:51.47 | brlcad | heh, it's no strain |
| 13:52.05 | brlcad | it could probably support hundreds of users beofre being an issue |
| 13:57.36 | ``Erik | heh, yeah, all the strain is coming from other services, and once brlcad gets off his duff and migrates, the machine will be overpowered anyways :) |
| 14:03.09 | karlprof-cgiirc | Cheers for the connection, all done |
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| 14:04.00 | brlcad | wonders why a staffer would need our cgi:irc |
| 14:06.42 | ``Erik | pheer incoming r00tage? |
| 14:28.21 | brlcad | coffee break! |
| 14:28.32 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31276 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/ (5 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 14:28.32 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: sample of new primitive organization where each primitive will be housed in a |
| 14:28.32 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: subdir named by it's table label. the intent will be to keep all of the table |
| 14:28.32 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: hook functions together in a main xxx.c file with structures and interface |
| 14:28.33 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: properties separated into an interface header, then allowing whatever other |
| 14:28.33 | ``Erik | <-- hands brlcad his mug :D |
| 14:28.35 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: source files, documentation, and supporting materials to live in that directory |
| 14:28.37 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: with the primitive. this new organization should better support the addition of |
| 14:29.05 | brlcad | not quite as good as the 2005 solid modeling, but still pretty good/useful .. some interesting papers |
| 14:29.26 | brlcad | slaps self for knowing better re it's |
| 14:32.17 | ``Erik | named by it is table label |
| 14:32.31 | ``Erik | I'm gonna sick crazy daisy on you to learn you up some apostrophes |
| 14:32.38 | ``Erik | apostrophe's :> *smirk* |
| 14:33.51 | prasad_ | howdy |
| 14:34.03 | ``Erik | http://www.angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif |
| 15:29.21 | brlcad | howdy prasad_ |
| 15:30.12 | brlcad | woot, there's the money |
| 15:30.43 | brlcad | great paper on computing volume and surface areas using ray sampling that minimizes sampling errors |
| 15:47.31 | pacman87 | brlcad: thanks for the info re: mged/rt; i'm tracking down the problem |
| 16:17.17 | brlcad | pacman87: np |
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| 17:57.35 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r31277 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc8/tclsh/library/installTree.tcl: Added code to copy nirt sfiles. Modified code that copies g_xxx.c. |
| 18:18.51 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31278 10/brlcad/trunk/ (103 files in 37 dirs): mass (initial) restructuring to place each primitive into their own subdirectory. the g_ files are stripped of their prefix, using a directory and 'main' interface file name that matches the table.c label. |
| 18:21.39 | poolio | wowza. |
| 18:25.37 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31279 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/Makefile.am: g_bot_include.c is in the bot dir |
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| 18:35.43 | andrecastelo | good afternoon people :D |
| 18:35.49 | pacman87 | hi andrecastelo |
| 18:35.49 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r31280 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/nsis/brlcad.nsi: Several minor mods to get things working again. |
| 18:35.57 | andrecastelo | hey pacman87 |
| 18:36.24 | poolio | howdy andrecastelo, pacman87 |
| 18:36.28 | poolio | Wasn't there a 3rd gsocer? |
| 18:36.33 | andrecastelo | howdy poolio |
| 18:36.41 | pacman87 | poolio: there's 4 of us |
| 18:36.49 | andrecastelo | there is mafm |
| 18:36.58 | poolio | Ah yes. Who's the fourth? |
| 18:36.59 | andrecastelo | and the fourth one i don't know the nickanem |
| 18:37.04 | pacman87 | homovulgaris? |
| 18:37.07 | andrecastelo | nickname* |
| 18:37.10 | poolio | If he's not in IRC he must not exist ;) |
| 18:37.41 | pacman87 | that was the old one, switched recently and i don't remember the new one |
| 18:37.54 | andrecastelo | iirc, brlcad talked about someone who communicated exclusively through the mailing list, don't know if he/she got accepted |
| 18:38.55 | pacman87 | andrecastelo: yeah, that was the libpg proposal |
| 18:38.59 | pacman87 | and it was accepted |
| 18:39.23 | andrecastelo | is checking wiki |
| 18:39.25 | pacman87 | http://brlcad.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code/2008 |
| 18:40.05 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31281 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc9/tclsh/library/: add missing library dir for distcheck |
| 18:40.06 | brlcad | howdy andrecastelo |
| 18:40.11 | brlcad | how goes it? |
| 18:40.12 | andrecastelo | howdy brlcad |
| 18:40.48 | brlcad | dawn's other/better nick is madant ;) |
| 18:41.15 | pacman87 | brlcad: i'd recognize it if i saw it, but not off the top of my head |
| 18:41.17 | brlcad | he's since been in a couple times, but yes tends to prefer e-mail |
| 18:41.27 | andrecastelo | brlcad: i'm fine, you ? :D |
| 18:41.42 | brlcad | dawn == homovulgaris == madant |
| 18:42.13 | brlcad | andrecastelo: doing great! .. I love going to conferences, and I'm at solid modeling all this week |
| 18:42.27 | brlcad | great for getting work done, networking, and inspiring new ideas |
| 18:42.33 | andrecastelo | brlcad: oh, so i've heard :D |
| 18:42.38 | andrecastelo | and how's ny? |
| 18:43.58 | brlcad | mildly warm outside today, but nice .. SUNY Stony Brook is way up long island .. other than the roads, it's far up into the woods and pretty quiet |
| 18:45.27 | andrecastelo | pretty nice, though i always liked the cold, i'm actually starting to miss the warm days |
| 18:56.33 | ``Erik | <-- scratches his head at the new src/librt ugliness O.o :) |
| 19:04.58 | brlcad | still not complete |
| 19:05.15 | brlcad | have to break out the interface |
| 19:05.28 | brlcad | and then start migrating the various table files |
| 19:07.17 | poolio | Heh, my dad teaches at SUNY |
| 19:07.31 | poolio | (not that one...he teaches at the upstate medical one in Syracuse) |
| 19:08.51 | pacman87 | maybe it's just me, but i have a feeling my raytracing is wrong: https://webspace.utexas.edu/trv82/www/hyp_rt.png |
| 19:10.42 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31282 10/brlcad/trunk/src/ (libged/Makefile.am librt/Makefile.am): add private headers xxx.h and ged_private.h missing from dist |
| 19:11.34 | poolio | pacman87: looks perfect to me ;) |
| 19:11.49 | poolio | pacman87: what WM is that? |
| 19:11.55 | pacman87 | kde |
| 19:12.59 | pacman87 | https://webspace.utexas.edu/trv82/www/hyp_rt1.png |
| 19:13.07 | pacman87 | there's another one, different angle |
| 19:16.50 | pacman87 | https://webspace.utexas.edu/trv82/www/hyp_rt2.png |
| 19:19.20 | brlcad | hehe |
| 19:19.27 | pacman87 | ...yeah |
| 19:19.29 | brlcad | doesn't think those are "quite" right :) |
| 19:19.41 | pacman87 | but it's not crashing on my anymore ;) |
| 19:19.46 | brlcad | progress! |
| 19:19.57 | brlcad | and it ray-traces something |
| 19:20.14 | brlcad | you could be one +/- character away from completion ;) |
| 19:20.17 | pacman87 | i find it odd that all three have that ellipse in the exact same spot |
| 19:21.11 | brlcad | yeah, that is interesting |
| 19:21.29 | brlcad | the caps should be fairly easy |
| 19:21.36 | brlcad | at least compared to solving the roots for the sheet |
| 19:21.54 | pacman87 | first one was -a 0, second was -a 90, and last was -a 45 |
| 19:22.09 | brlcad | easier said than done, of course, though the code should be nearly identical to that for the epa and tgc |
| 20:13.47 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r31283 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc8/librt/librt.vcproj: It looks like torus/torus.c changed to tor/tor.c |
| 20:15.16 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r31284 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc8/brlcad/brlcad.sln: Temporarily remove rtmlt from solution until it builds. |
| 20:30.59 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r31285 10/brlcad/trunk/src/rt/view.c: Updated the usage string to include -U. |
| 20:49.07 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31286 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/ (34 files in 33 dirs): update the headers for the new file names, use something better than g_ for the doxygen group |
| 20:49.42 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31287 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/doxygen_structure: rename g_ group to primitives |
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| 23:31.37 | andrecastelo | brlcad: does this answers a few of the "week #1" questions? http://brlcad.org/wiki/Example_Application |
