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| 00:47.34 | brlcad | pacman87: neat |
| 01:37.10 | brlcad | if anyone wants to get on the .de server and already has a .bz account, just lemme know |
| 01:42.50 | yukonbob | lots of committing to docbook... |
| 01:42.56 | yukonbob | hello, cadheads |
| 01:43.57 | brlcad | yeah, that's a about 1000 files more than I thought it was going to be :) |
| 01:44.37 | brlcad | starseeker: you should run distcheck if you haven't |
| 01:47.06 | yukonbob | reads scrollback, for .de server desc, and whatever else crops up... |
| 01:49.29 | yukonbob | heh -- IriX64 was here and I missed him |
| 01:55.01 | yukonbob | brlcad: what is this .de server about? |
| 02:58.13 | brlcad | yukonbob: ah, I have another dedicated host over in germany |
| 02:58.35 | brlcad | it doesn't have a fqdn yet, so I just call it the .de server |
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| 03:27.34 | PrezKennedy | brlcad, i want one! |
| 03:27.48 | PrezKennedy | logs in every once in awhile to brush up on his unix commands |
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| 04:11.22 | starseeker | svn updates and runs distcheck to see what he busted this time... |
| 04:20.50 | starseeker | brlcad: Let me know if that's too much |
| 04:20.56 | starseeker | in docbook I mean |
| 04:23.02 | brlcad | might want to reduce the binary, maybe nix examples |
| 04:23.25 | brlcad | and the testing framework if it doesn't get us anything |
| 04:24.29 | starseeker | no problem - I was a bit rushed there at the end of the day |
| 04:24.49 | starseeker | is definitely in favor of trimming to the minimum, once he figures out what said minimum is |
| 04:25.46 | brlcad | k |
| 04:25.55 | brlcad | no rush to trim |
| 04:27.42 | starseeker | keeps eye on distcheck build, misses super-powered machines at work |
| 04:35.17 | starseeker | brlcad: What would you recommend as a good example of a journal-style CSG modeling paper? Are there any particularly good examples to learn from in terms of styling, information to present, etc? |
| 04:45.39 | poolio | rt^ 3 |
| 04:45.47 | poolio | I had to test that...and I failed :( |
| 04:45.54 | poolio | Also, alloo all. |
| 04:47.28 | starseeker | distcheck failed, but not where I was thinking it would: |
| 04:47.32 | starseeker | ../../../src/rt/scanline.c:26:22: error: scanline.h: No such file or directory |
| 04:56.07 | starseeker | tweaks... |
| 04:59.15 | brlcad | poolio: heh |
| 04:59.46 | brlcad | starseeker: that'd be a file missing from the Makefile.am, header missing from noinst_HEADERS in that case |
| 05:00.52 | brlcad | starseeker: I finally read some of paul's note -- he is right about the subtraction -- once you subtraced the sphere from the cylinder on the lollipop, that included the core and the stick |
| 05:01.02 | brlcad | a nitpick overlooked detail, but valid |
| 05:01.42 | brlcad | they're needed for the first part, just not the seond |
| 05:04.27 | brlcad | his reason for the pull command is semi bogus .. a pull command would be awesome, just mildly more complicated to implement properly |
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| 05:16.33 | poolio | heh, .de seems faster than .bz |
| 05:22.06 | brlcad | it is |
| 05:22.25 | brlcad | faster everything (net pipe, disks, cpu, ..) |
| 05:22.45 | brlcad | and cheaper! ze crazy germans |
| 05:24.51 | poolio | sweet :) |
| 05:27.05 | brlcad | should totally make that a freenode node or mirror for something when it's configured |
| 05:28.43 | PrezKennedy | it also doesnt have anything on it... |
| 05:28.47 | PrezKennedy | probably helps a bit |
| 05:28.47 | PrezKennedy | :P |
| 05:40.43 | CIA-22 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31446 10/rt^3/trunk/src/g3d/ (GuiConsole.cxx History.h): break out the History class into its own file, plus some comment cleanup |
| 05:41.01 | CIA-22 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31447 10/rt^3/trunk/src/g3d/GuiConsole.h: comment/header cleanup |
| 05:41.08 | brlcad | that too |
| 05:46.13 | CIA-22 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31448 10/rt^3/trunk/src/g3d/Logger.cxx: ws |
| 05:48.10 | CIA-22 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31449 10/rt^3/trunk/src/g3d/ (GuiConsole.cxx History.h): get rid of using namespace std -- conventionally/intentionally use std:: scope on all stl types to make the code universally unambiguous. also fix ws indentation. |
| 05:50.32 | CIA-22 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31450 10/rt^3/trunk/src/g3d/main.cxx: ws + header |
| 06:38.23 | brlcad | starseeker: at a quick glance, it looks like the epub subtree could probably go (ebook format) .. it's about 25 MB of "stuff" that wouldn't be high on the priority list anytime soon |
| 06:40.36 | brlcad | that was all I noticed at a glance |
| 06:46.30 | CIA-22 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31451 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libpc/pc_solver.cpp: ws and header cleanup, intentionally do not use 'using namespace std;' in order to make the usages of stl classes unambiguous |
| 06:46.39 | CIA-22 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31452 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libpc/pc_solver.h: ws and header cleanup, intentionally do not use 'using namespace std;' in order to make the usages of stl classes unambiguous |
| 06:49.50 | CIA-22 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31453 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libpc/ (5 files): ws |
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| 10:53.27 | mafm | hey |
| 11:11.36 | brlcad | howdy mafm |
| 11:17.02 | mafm | sigh |
| 11:17.14 | mafm | I could do better, but not very bad |
| 11:19.53 | mafm | have to go out for a bit |
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| 12:43.49 | CIA-22 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r31455 10/brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/resources/standard/xsl/epub/: Remove epub xsl files - not high priority output target, large amount of stuff (per Sean's suggestion) |
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| 13:01.51 | andrecastelo | morning all |
| 13:05.41 | mafm | morning andrecastelo |
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| 14:02.28 | CIA-22 | BRL-CAD: 03johnranderson * r31456 10/brlcad/trunk/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Since MUVES3 was not using the asynchronous capabilities, simplified this library to eliminate pthreads, queues, and most of the locking. These changes were also suggested by Ron and Erik. |
| 14:03.34 | CIA-22 | BRL-CAD: 03homovulgaris * r31457 10/brlcad/trunk/src/util/loop.c: added -c argument to loop.c so as to support characters |
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| 16:04.43 | homovulgaris | hi all |
| 16:04.46 | homovulgaris | pacman87: how is it going ;) |
| 16:06.06 | homovulgaris | mafm: how do i see g3d :) i did a make in rt^3 trunk.. but i guess i need to do much more ? |
| 16:08.23 | homovulgaris | loves the tropics and the monsoon : enjoying the rain for the last 36 hours ( non-stop) |
| 17:09.48 | poolio | brlcad: So I'm a bit confused about working with nmgs...to retrieve say, all the vertices, do I just repeatedly call the macros and that will properly manipulate the indices? Or is it that each vertex is an element in a linked list that I can iterate over? |
| 17:36.51 | CIA-22 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r31458 10/brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/tutorials/oed/oed.xml: Fix to lollipop model suggested by Paul Tanenbaum |
| 17:52.14 | CIA-22 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r31459 10/brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/tutorials/oed/ (README oed.xml): Point dtd reference to new location, add note on xsltproc conversion |
| 17:56.01 | CIA-22 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r31460 10/brlcad/trunk/src/rt/Makefile.am: Add scanline.h to noinst_HEADERS, per Sean |
| 18:13.02 | pacman87 | is there documentation somewhere on how to use sketch/extrude? |
| 18:13.34 | mafm | homovulgaris: I need to upload OGRE and the rest of libraries |
| 18:17.04 | mafm | brlcad: what's "ws" of your commit comments? |
| 18:17.11 | pacman87 | whitespace |
| 18:20.03 | mafm | I see |
| 18:21.18 | homovulgaris | :) |
| 18:21.41 | homovulgaris | mafm: didnt svn diff show that ? |
| 18:22.04 | mafm | there are more changes than that |
| 18:26.42 | homovulgaris | what changes i see only corresponding line addition and removals ( svn diff -r 31453:31452 right ? ) , code style standardization of my files :) |
| 18:29.03 | mafm | there are 5 commits or so |
| 18:30.38 | homovulgaris | oh ok u meant all the commits together.. :) hows the ogre hacking going btw ;) |
| 18:31.28 | mafm | there are the comment "ws" in 2 or 3 of them, and in some it's not only that |
| 18:32.07 | mafm | the hacking of OGRE is not an issue, the hacking of the GUI libraries (RBGui) is |
| 18:32.28 | mafm | I offered to the guys to maintain that in their server, a week or more ago, but no reply |
| 18:32.30 | mafm | :( |
| 18:32.50 | mafm | it's much better to do it that way than having to maintain private patches |
| 18:33.16 | mafm | apart from the obvious "useful for everyone, not just us" because it simplifies the process of building it from our side |
| 18:39.07 | CIA-22 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r31461 10/brlcad/trunk/include/ged.h: Added GED_INIT |
| 18:41.07 | CIA-22 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r31462 10/brlcad/trunk/src/mged/setup.c: Temporarily comment out the E command. |
| 18:51.24 | CIA-22 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r31463 10/brlcad/trunk/src/mged/ (chgmodel.c chgtree.c cmd.c): Use GED_INIT initialize ged. |
| 18:52.14 | CIA-22 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r31464 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/wdb_obj.c: Use GED_INIT to initialize ged. |
| 18:55.48 | homovulgaris | mafm: hmm .. why dont they have a irc channel :P |
| 19:02.11 | mafm | they don't even have proper website |
| 19:04.26 | mafm | http://www.rightbraingames.com/ |
| 19:04.39 | mafm | you have to go to http://www.rightbraingames.com/tech/ to actually see something |
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| 19:13.38 | homovulgaris | RBG stands for Right Brain Games :O :) ? |
| 19:14.06 | prasad1 | the new brlcad gui is built using rbgui? |
| 19:17.05 | homovulgaris | afaik yes :) mafm: so ogre provides the rendering functionality which u would be accessing via rbgui ? i mean rbgui basically provides ui elements and management right ? or does it act as a layer above ogre for everything ? |
| 19:18.26 | homovulgaris | prasad1: u are from india :) ? |
| 19:18.42 | prasad1 | close, sri lanka |
| 19:19.21 | homovulgaris | closer ;) . my home is in kerala :) i am right now more near Bangladesh though |
| 19:19.40 | prasad1 | ah cool |
| 19:19.45 | homovulgaris | would love to visit Sri Lanka sometime |
| 19:20.10 | prasad1 | most of us have origins in kerala |
| 19:20.11 | prasad1 | :) |
| 19:22.53 | homovulgaris | wow :) I thought it was more tamil-esque :) |
| 19:23.07 | prasad1 | who? SL? |
| 19:23.14 | prasad1 | 70% majority is sinhalese |
| 19:23.37 | homovulgaris | k |
| 19:23.49 | prasad1 | it's not well known but most anthropologists say the sinhalese ppl are from kerala |
| 19:23.58 | prasad1 | 20% tamils from tamil nadu |
| 19:24.32 | homovulgaris | interesting :) I know pretty little about my neighbour i realise |
| 19:25.47 | homovulgaris | hmm.. i should be back in Kerala soon.. end of the month .. home after 2 years :) |
| 19:25.57 | prasad1 | then again most ppl believe a story about a prince and crew from a mythical kingdom in northern india |
| 19:26.04 | prasad1 | cool |
| 19:26.11 | mafm | homovulgaris: yes, RBG stands for that... would be funny BDGui though |
| 19:26.13 | mafm | :P |
| 19:26.14 | prasad1 | my mother in law is from kerala |
| 19:26.29 | homovulgaris | pacman87: did u find anything on sketch and extrude ? |
| 19:26.43 | homovulgaris | prasad1: nice :) |
| 19:26.47 | mafm | RBgui only provides windows and widgets |
| 19:26.58 | mafm | you have to inject the input from ogre (keyboard, mouse, whatever) |
| 19:27.13 | mafm | for displaying geometries and all that, OGRE will be used directly |
| 19:27.21 | homovulgaris | hmmm.. |
| 19:28.09 | prasad1 | we might visit kerala next year |
| 19:28.24 | homovulgaris | I have only used libcairo before for output.. 0 knowledge about openGL, ogre et al :) rendering stuff must be fun :) |
| 19:28.51 | prasad1 | heh not really |
| 19:29.00 | homovulgaris | prasad1: If you come near cochin let me know maybe we could meet up :) |
| 19:30.12 | prasad1 | heh cool |
| 19:30.31 | pacman87 | homovulgaris: no, unfortunately |
| 19:31.29 | pacman87 | http://www.nabble.com/-brlcad---Developers--QCAD-integration-inside-BRL-CAD--td5495294.html |
| 19:31.40 | pacman87 | did anything ever come from that? |
| 19:36.51 | homovulgaris | hmmm.. |
| 19:53.23 | homovulgaris | pacman87: i cant locate the code for sketch type in mged/typein |
| 19:53.23 | homovulgaris | how are we supposed to add sketches anyways :O |
| 19:53.42 | pacman87 | homovulgaris: that's what i was wondering, too |
| 19:54.42 | pacman87 | read primitives/sketch/sketch.c import/export functions, and write your own binary file to conform to that standard? |
| 19:54.45 | pacman87 | :) |
| 20:22.42 | mafm | going home now, take care guys :) |
| 20:25.23 | homovulgaris | pacman87: I guess there must be some system of inserting sketch if not via mged |
| 20:25.41 | pacman87 | i dl'd and complied qcad |
| 20:25.46 | homovulgaris | otherwise how would they have tested during development of extrude |
| 20:26.29 | pacman87 | make a simple sketch, saved as .dxf |
| 20:26.43 | pacman87 | now i'm trying to figure how to import that to brl-cad |
| 20:26.50 | homovulgaris | dxf-g now :) ? |
| 20:28.26 | homovulgaris | conv/dxf-g should do that work shouldnt it ? |
| 20:28.31 | pacman87 | yeah |
| 20:28.49 | pacman87 | /usr/brlcad/bin/dxg-g input.dxf output.g |
| 20:28.55 | pacman87 | *dxf-g |
| 20:29.09 | homovulgaris | yep :) |
| 20:30.14 | pacman87 | although the conversion switches everything to line segments |
| 20:36.18 | homovulgaris | hmm supporting splines would be a functional addition to dxf-g.. but if dxf import is the only method of adding a sketch, we should concentrate on providing make sketch functionality within mged / brlcad |
| 20:36.35 | homovulgaris | though i guess specifying bsplines using commandline would be pretty tedious |
| 20:37.50 | pacman87 | yeah, the sketch primitive has line segments, circular arcs, bezier splines and nurb |
| 21:06.22 | starseeker | woot - make distcheck succeeded |
| 21:07.25 | homovulgaris | is taking a nap |
| 21:07.58 | starseeker | and the tarball didn't suck up the dtd and xsl dirs |
| 21:08.03 | starseeker | breaths a sigh of relief |
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| 22:11.43 | brlcad | pacman87: nope, absolutely nothing came of it -- erosenst had a few questions, but never got to trying afaik |
| 22:12.14 | pacman87 | brlcad: how are sketches made in brlcadA? |
| 22:12.25 | brlcad | through the sketch editor |
| 22:12.56 | brlcad | Create -> sketch |
| 22:13.19 | pacman87 | yeah, i'm still using classic mode ;) |
| 22:13.32 | brlcad | ahh, then somewhat tough :) |
| 22:13.48 | brlcad | you can create an empty one with "make sketch sketch" |
| 22:13.54 | brlcad | but that's certainly not useful |
| 22:14.03 | pacman87 | i tried that, but it crashed |
| 22:14.10 | brlcad | oh? |
| 22:14.16 | brlcad | sounds like a bug that needs fixing |
| 22:14.17 | brlcad | oooh |
| 22:14.19 | brlcad | right |
| 22:14.44 | brlcad | there was a bit that bob committed just yesterday (or day before) that broke the 'make' command and a slew of other mged commands |
| 22:14.51 | brlcad | he's working on it now |
| 22:14.57 | pacman87 | ok |
| 22:15.14 | brlcad | if you revert libged and mged dirs to friday, it should work |
| 22:15.27 | pacman87 | i got the import workign from qcad .dxf, so i have a sample sketch to play with |
| 22:15.27 | brlcad | or you can add the one-liner that makes it not crash |
| 22:15.37 | brlcad | ah, even better |
| 22:15.39 | pacman87 | unfortunately, the import is just line segments |
| 22:16.53 | brlcad | do they enclose an area? |
| 22:17.11 | pacman87 | yes |
| 22:17.29 | pacman87 | my original sketch had two lines and an arc |
| 22:17.38 | pacman87 | the arc was approximated using line segments on import |
| 22:17.43 | brlcad | ahh |
| 22:32.28 | brlcad | pacman87: I'll make a sample sketch for you |
| 22:32.32 | brlcad | gimmie a sec |
| 22:33.20 | brlcad | http://brlcad.org/tmp/sketch.g |
| 22:34.20 | brlcad | that's a sketch that has all of the basic entities (circle, arc, line, and two bezier curves) |
| 22:34.35 | brlcad | with an extrude that shows it |
| 22:34.42 | pacman87 | ok, thanks |
| 22:34.48 | brlcad | which for some reason is god-aweful slow here |
| 22:35.04 | brlcad | some semaphore contention .. lemme know if it's slow for you |
| 22:35.30 | pacman87 | what part is slow? |
| 22:36.13 | brlcad | the ray-trace |
| 22:36.19 | brlcad | I think it's because of the two beziers |
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| 22:36.50 | brlcad | they invoke malloc/free a few dozen/hundred times per ray as part of their evaluation... |
| 22:36.53 | brlcad | utterly horrible |
| 22:37.00 | brlcad | was never optimized |
| 22:37.07 | pacman87 | can't that be moved to prep()? |
| 22:37.09 | brlcad | should never alloc during a shotline |
| 22:37.16 | brlcad | of course! :) |
| 22:37.19 | brlcad | or not done at all |
| 22:37.28 | brlcad | in this case, it could probably go away entirely |
| 22:38.21 | brlcad | fyi, if you run g2asc, you can see the basic structure and could use that to make your own sketches with a text edtior |
| 22:38.53 | brlcad | there's a VL vertex list followed by a SL segment list that defines the thing |
| 22:39.04 | brlcad | very simple |
| 22:39.36 | brlcad | the dxf-g should just preserve the entities instead of turning them all into line segments |