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| 02:36.17 | brlcad | returns home semi-exhausted |
| 02:39.27 | brlcad | andrecastelo: so there are several ways to shoot secondary rays |
| 02:40.09 | brlcad | and yes, rt shoots secondary rays -- though it does so as part of the phong calculations (and some of it is done by liboptical |
| 02:40.49 | brlcad | rt_shootray is ultimately what fires a ray so looking for that call is a very strong indicator and good place to start for finding whom all is shooting rays (and why) |
| 02:51.13 | brlcad | you can trace down how rt does it by following rt's hit callback (colorview) which leads you to liboptical (via viewshade) which leads you to ... more stuff, but that direction won't readily help you understand |
| 03:05.36 | brlcad | andrecastelo: I'd say just first write your own ray-trace test app where you fire your own ray using rt_shootray (or undersand rtexample.c and/or rt_simple.c) |
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| 03:21.34 | CIA-22 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31909 10/brlcad/trunk/src/rt/rtexample.c: start merging in the additional comments from rt_simple.c into rtexample.c -- there only needs to be one 'simple' example. |
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| 03:52.39 | yukonbob | hello, cadheads |
| 03:52.45 | pacman87 | hi yukonbob |
| 03:52.55 | yukonbob | how're things, pacman87? |
| 03:53.32 | pacman87 | pretty good; finally tracked down a bug caused by one character (2 instead of 1) |
| 03:54.16 | Ralith | another? |
| 03:54.25 | pacman87 | right now i'm wondering why my kde panel stops 83% of the way across the screen |
| 03:54.37 | pacman87 | Ralith: the last bug was 4 characters |
| 03:54.40 | pacman87 | j++; |
| 03:57.48 | louipc | I'm wondering why brl-cad doesn't like tcl 8.5.3 :/ |
| 03:57.57 | yukonbob | louipc: interesting... |
| 03:58.20 | Ralith | pacman87: bah. |
| 03:58.34 | yukonbob | is re-attacking 8.5.3 on his machine, which happens to be NetBSD -current, just to make things even more difficult... |
| 04:05.08 | brlcad | louipc: define "doesn't like" |
| 04:05.36 | Ralith | mafm: ping? |
| 04:06.57 | brlcad | Ralith: your patches are high in my to-be-reviewed queue just so you know |
| 04:07.25 | Ralith | cool :D |
| 04:07.28 | Ralith | thanks |
| 04:07.47 | Ralith | they're all very straightforward, except for that X11 mouse handling bit which might not even be necessary |
| 04:07.56 | brlcad | nods |
| 04:08.07 | Ralith | once I can get g3d building, I can test that |
| 04:08.14 | Ralith | ogre's proving to be very finnicky though |
| 04:08.37 | Ralith | have to touch ogre.cfg in ./ before it'll even init, and now it wants some png that I don't have |
| 04:18.08 | pacman87 | for some reason, kde thinks my monitor is 1400x1050 instead of 1680x1050 when maximizing windows |
| 04:18.38 | pacman87 | but the desktop background is lined up and centered properly |
| 04:20.19 | Ralith | O.o |
| 04:20.29 | Ralith | lightweight and simple DEs ftw |
| 04:21.09 | poolio | Ralith: what do you run? :P |
| 04:21.15 | poolio | pacman87: restart X? |
| 04:21.38 | Ralith | poolio: xfce at the moment, but if I was less lazy I'd have transitioned over to something even lighter like fluxbox |
| 04:23.19 | poolio | Cool cool. I went KDE -> xfce -> fluxbox -> ratpoision -> xmonad |
| 04:24.04 | yukonbob | next stop is running everything in text mode on a wrist watch and imagining what it would look like if graphical... |
| 04:24.17 | Ralith | I don't even use any part of xfce but the WM and the keybindings |
| 04:24.17 | brlcad | wow, what a nasty thunderstorm |
| 04:24.34 | Ralith | yukonbob: no, you always need X for web browsing if nothing else |
| 04:24.47 | yukonbob | Ralith: links, w3m... |
| 04:25.00 | yukonbob | vesafb |
| 04:25.18 | brlcad | yay for having all computers and networking equipment on ups' |
| 04:25.41 | Ralith | yukonbob: all kind of suck. |
| 04:25.52 | brlcad | (as the power drops in an out about two dozens times over the past two minutes alone) |
| 04:25.53 | Ralith | and are suitable for emergency fallbacks. |
| 04:26.08 | poolio | brlcad: That bit missed north of me...but I fear the next part |
| 04:26.19 | yukonbob | uses elinks, and firefox as an emergency backup these days... :P |
| 04:26.24 | poolio | brlcad: I have nothing on UPS...uh oh |
| 04:26.30 | brlcad | heh, eep |
| 04:28.20 | brlcad | wow .. so much lightning..... |
| 04:28.35 | brlcad | power is fluctuating mad .. hadn't seen this bad in years |
| 04:28.58 | brlcad | bets he'll lose power hard eventually |
| 04:29.07 | poolio | brlcad: You must be in that bright red area :P |
| 04:29.56 | louipc | brlcad: oh it decides to build the bundled 8.5.1 |
| 04:30.43 | brlcad | louipc: config.log should say why it's thinking it fails |
| 04:32.16 | brlcad | ahh.. so that's what they mean by "severe thunderstorm warning" for this area |
| 04:33.05 | poolio | Hasn't it passed you by now? |
| 04:33.19 | brlcad | hail, wind gusts to 60mph |
| 04:33.27 | brlcad | nope, it's roaring outside right now |
| 04:33.40 | poolio | brlcad: unrelated: if I'm interested in continuing work on beset and working with some CMU people, is that all kosher? There's no conflict with CMU and ARL? |
| 04:33.45 | louipc | brlcad: yeah I peeked at it but I can't really make sense of it |
| 04:33.49 | louipc | http://louipc.yi.org/brlcad/config.log |
| 04:34.18 | louipc | looks like it wants 8.6 or something? |
| 04:34.20 | louipc | shrugs |
| 04:35.13 | brlcad | louipc: no, keep reading -- it tries versions in order |
| 04:35.41 | brlcad | so 8.6 failed (naturally), but checking for Tcl_Main in -ltcl8.5 actually succeeds, so the lib check passed |
| 04:36.17 | brlcad | the other two potential checks are header checks (which tcl doesn't directly check for) and a functionality/sanity check (which is what is probably is failing) |
| 04:37.36 | brlcad | ah, tcl does have a header check, my bad -- but it passed |
| 04:38.34 | brlcad | er... |
| 04:38.35 | brlcad | configure:42641: checking whether to build Tcl |
| 04:38.35 | brlcad | configure:42662: result: no |
| 04:39.35 | brlcad | aha.. |
| 04:39.36 | brlcad | configure:43388: WARNING: Unable to find a system incrTcl compatible with the available system Tcl |
| 04:39.39 | brlcad | configure:43390: WARNING: Enabling compilation of both Tcl and incrTcl |
| 04:40.00 | brlcad | that should have been visible in your basic configure output too |
| 04:41.00 | brlcad | poolio: of course it's kosher, it's encouraged |
| 04:41.02 | louipc | ah, thanks |
| 04:41.35 | brlcad | louipc .. now whether the itcl test should have failed, that's another story |
| 04:43.10 | brlcad | louipc: ah, looks like you didn't have a system incrTcl according to the tests, so the failure is correct/intentional |
| 04:43.42 | brlcad | though using our incrtcl against a system 8.5 should be fine -- right now it just tries an all-or-nothing in order to support the macs |
| 04:44.55 | louipc | ah. It used to be cool with system tcl + bundled itcl |
| 04:45.13 | brlcad | it is/was/still is |
| 04:45.20 | brlcad | just so long as the versions match up |
| 04:46.01 | brlcad | macs have 8.4 installed and it was finding it .. but no itcl installed, and 8.4 doesn't work with our incrtcl sources (they require 8.5) |
| 05:03.17 | louipc | hmm! |
| 05:07.32 | CIA-22 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31910 10/brlcad/trunk/configure.ac: |
| 05:07.32 | CIA-22 | BRL-CAD: per louipc's discoverage, make the warning about mixing non-system incrtcl with |
| 05:07.32 | CIA-22 | BRL-CAD: system tcl a lot more in-thy-face obvious during output. for his case, though, |
| 05:07.32 | CIA-22 | BRL-CAD: he was trying the one version that should work (8.5) so try to make that work. |
| 05:09.08 | brlcad | give that a go |
| 05:14.09 | brlcad | poolio: what you're suggesting strongly relates to this topic: http://brlcad.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code/Project_Ideas#CSG_ray-trace_optimizations |
| 05:14.25 | brlcad | particularly the last two sentances ;) |
| 05:16.08 | poolio | brlcad: ah yes. |
| 05:29.17 | CIA-22 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31911 10/brlcad/trunk/src/rt/rtexample.c: merge in the rest of rt_simple.c's comments including a plethora of new ones by yours truely. |
| 05:31.32 | Ralith | poolio: CMU? |
| 05:32.31 | CIA-22 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31912 10/brlcad/trunk/src/rt/ (Makefile.am rt_simple.c): ding dong, rt_simple.c is no longer with us. it overlapped with rtexample.c too much so the two were merged into one. |
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| 05:33.41 | louipc | Carnegie Mellon University? |
| 05:35.31 | brlcad | nods |
| 05:36.28 | poolio | aye. |
| 05:50.02 | Ralith | ah. |
| 05:50.53 | Ralith | might apply there |
| 05:53.25 | CIA-22 | BRL-CAD: 03louipc * r31913 10/brlcad/trunk/configure.ac: Fix problem with quotes. |
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| 07:22.18 | brlcad | reyawns |
| 07:26.31 | Ralith | deyawns |
| 07:32.26 | CIA-22 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31914 10/brlcad/trunk/TODO: there is no rt_simple, but could use one for rtexample if it's going to be installed |
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| 08:53.53 | mafm | Ralith: are you there? |
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| 09:02.04 | Ralith | mafm: sorry, heading off now |
| 09:02.08 | Ralith | check your email though |
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| 13:20.16 | CIA-22 | BRL-CAD: 03mafm * r31915 10/rt^3/trunk/src/g3d/ (CameraMode.cxx CameraMode.h): Adding Axis enumerator useful for some of the modes (Shift-grips at least), and renaming of variables to be more correct. |
| 14:03.29 | CIA-22 | BRL-CAD: 03mafm * r31916 10/rt^3/trunk/src/g3d/ (CameraManager.cxx CameraModeMGED.cxx CameraModeMGED.h): Initial commit for my work on MGED mode. At the moment only scaling works, and not very well... |
| 14:07.45 | CIA-22 | BRL-CAD: 03homovulgaris * r31917 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libpc/ (pcParser.cpp pcParser.h): remove deprecated warning by using boost::spirit::classic instead of boost::spirit |
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| 14:35.14 | mafm | yahhoooooo |
| 14:41.54 | CIA-22 | BRL-CAD: 03mafm * r31918 10/rt^3/trunk/src/g3d/ (CameraMode.cxx CameraMode.h): More renamings, forgot about these before... |
| 14:46.57 | CIA-22 | BRL-CAD: 03mafm * r31919 10/rt^3/trunk/src/g3d/ (CameraModeMGED.cxx CameraModeMGED.h): I think that at last I got the scale commands right, and in a simpler way than I was expecting... |
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| 15:04.56 | mafm | aloha pacman87 |
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| 15:15.46 | pacman87 | hi mafm |
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| 15:34.05 | CIA-22 | BRL-CAD: 03mafm * r31920 10/rt^3/trunk/src/g3d/ (CameraModeMGED.cxx CameraModeMGED.h): Variable renaming, for consistency |
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| 16:53.30 | CIA-22 | BRL-CAD: 03mafm * r31921 10/rt^3/trunk/src/g3d/ (4 files): Implementing basic translation for Shift-grips mode, although not working very well at the moment... |
| 17:21.26 | mafm | gotta go, laters |
| 17:33.09 | CIA-22 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r31922 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/namegen.c: add first cut at argc+argv mechanism |
| 17:47.50 | CIA-22 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r31923 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/namegen.c: Succeeding with multiple tests. |
| 18:28.25 | homovulgaris | longs for heterogeneous STL containers |
| 18:43.58 | ``Erik | um, yeah, that's one reason I keep going back to scheme/lisp |
| 18:53.28 | homovulgaris | :) scheme is awesome.. <- tautology |
| 19:18.49 | jonored | still has the impulse to start writing reader macros and the like to load other languages into lisp... |
| 19:43.44 | pacman87 | can i tell 'attach X' to attach to a different X session? |
| 19:45.22 | louipc | how about if if you set DISPLAY? |
| 19:45.58 | pacman87 | how? |
| 19:46.45 | poolio | DISPLAY=:0.1 mged -c ... |
| 19:47.18 | ``Erik | (if in bash, csh is a little... different) |
| 19:47.35 | poolio | true true :) I've been using exclusively bsah for ... ever |
| 19:47.46 | louipc | me too |
| 19:48.03 | pacman87 | Starting an X display manager |
| 19:48.03 | pacman87 | X Error of failed request: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) |
| 19:48.22 | poolio | pacman87: It may not be :0.1, it might be :1 or something |
| 19:48.49 | pacman87 | :0.0 is the current session |
| 19:49.25 | poolio | Try it with :1.0 or just :1 |
| 19:49.26 | ``Erik | host:server.workspace |
| 19:49.41 | poolio | yeah that :) |
| 19:49.49 | ``Erik | :0 is equivelant to localhost:0.0 and server 0 means port 6000 |
| 19:49.55 | ``Erik | :1 is 6001, ... |
| 19:52.17 | pacman87 | 'DISPLAY=:0.1 kedit' works as expected |
| 19:52.38 | pacman87 | but 'DISPLAY=:0.1 mged' fails |
| 19:57.02 | ``Erik | neat, what about 'wish' or 'bwish'? |
| 19:57.21 | ``Erik | TK might have some "extra special" relationship to this task O.o :) |
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| 20:42.34 | pacman87 | i'm getting 'interesting' raytraces from overlapping geometry |
| 20:43.13 | pacman87 | ie, rectangle from -1,-1 to 2,1 |
| 20:43.27 | pacman87 | revolved more than 180 degrees |
| 20:47.51 | pacman87 | https://webspace.utexas.edu/trv82/www/rev_rt20.png |
| 20:50.02 | pacman87 | ^^ that's from (-4,-1) to (8,1) revolved 270deg |
| 20:52.51 | CIA-22 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r31924 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/namegen.c: Misc tweaks, add note about switching parser to use regex |
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| 22:13.05 | ``Erik | heh, this was too good, on the drive home, annoying little honda civic 'si' with the fart cannon and everything, license plate said "baka" |
| 22:13.14 | ``Erik | (japanese for "stupid", for those who don't know) |
| 22:13.41 | pacman87 | you should've taken a pic |
| 22:14.18 | ``Erik | I wish I had a camera |
| 22:20.08 | PrezKennedy | ive always got one with me now |
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| 22:22.47 | ``Erik | <-- can't carry one when he goes to work |
| 22:23.03 | pacman87 | i couldn't either, last summer |
| 22:23.24 | pacman87 | had a bit of trouble finding a cell phone without one |
| 22:25.15 | louipc | yeah it's ridiculous |
| 22:25.31 | louipc | you can't buy just a phone anymore |
| 22:27.08 | pacman87 | i ended up getting a motorola L6 and swapping for my mom's L2 |
| 22:39.34 | CIA-22 | BRL-CAD: 03homovulgaris * r31925 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libpc/ (8 files): De-templating the Constraint object since it should not have been based on a template in the first place. need to sort out a preexisting segfault in the solver |
| 22:41.53 | homovulg1ris | gave up cellphones 6 months ago :) |
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