IRC log for #brlcad on 20081205

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00:53.35``Erikpays lots of attention to his internet connection, has a faulty cable modem or wire or something :/ has to physically move the cable modem to another jack to trick it into resetting correctly :/
00:54.16redvsbluebut sometimes youre too busy napping at work to notice though
00:54.50``Erikcan't exactly stop and drive home to reset the cable modem in the middle of a work day O.o
00:55.13redvsbluetoo busy playing solitaire?
00:55.13redvsblue;D
00:55.21``Erikminesweeper
00:55.26redvsbluehehe
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01:18.03yukonbobhello, cadheads
01:23.48sportyyukonbob: hello
01:54.55sportyhello?
01:55.06sportyon-line :)
01:55.50sporty"america on-line" - "What is on-line?" "America, heh!.."
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11:11.24claymoreyawns.
11:11.27claymoreMornin all.
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12:38.36starseekermorning
12:40.27archivistI wish I could get out of bed as late as you lot
12:48.03claymorelate?  Early :)  0415 is my wake time!
12:48.39archivist12:48 nearly dinnerz time :)
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14:19.23CIA-6BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33291 10/brlcad/trunk/TODO:
14:19.23CIA-6BRL-CAD: add a slew of request from butler et al for a variety of productivity enhancers:
14:19.23CIA-6BRL-CAD: 1) support to 'search' to find objects with given attribute value ranges (like
14:19.23CIA-6BRL-CAD: numeric region ids), 2) adding a color option to all of the drawing commands, 3)
14:19.23CIA-6BRL-CAD: having automatic history recordation, 4) exec support for 'search', 5) argument
14:19.26CIA-6BRL-CAD: aware commands for automatic object matching
14:25.05CIA-6BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33292 10/brlcad/trunk/BUGS:
14:25.05CIA-6BRL-CAD: added more detail on the mixed-winding bot problems noting that the issue isn't
14:25.05CIA-6BRL-CAD: isolated to nirt but is a problem in librt. if they're set to lh or rh, they
14:25.05CIA-6BRL-CAD: won't render correctly (or at all usually). if set to no orientation, they
14:25.05CIA-6BRL-CAD: don't report as hits (nirt).
15:15.03CIA-6BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33293 10/brlcad/trunk/src/conv/fast4-g.1: add a note about FASTGEN2 and FASTGEN3 support to the fast4-g manual page, with references to rpatch and patch-g. as well as cleaning up the manual page layout a little for readability.
15:16.19CIA-6BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33294 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: ws
15:16.59brlcadRalith: nice work on the enum ..
15:17.03brlcad~ws
15:17.04ibotmethinks ws is short for workstation.  White Space, or the country code for Western Samoa
16:51.19Axman6i always wince when i see clock_'s quit message
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17:52.28``Erikbitches s'more about his uplink crapping out O.o
17:54.10Axman6:(
17:54.21CIA-6BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33295 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/nmg/nmg_mk.c: fix indentation, braces, ws
17:55.23claymoreI think you need to tell Comcast that you are not recieving the service that is spelled out in your contract with them and therefore you are not liable to pay until its fixed :)
17:57.56``Erikcalled 'em at one point when it wasn't working, they scheduled service 2 weeks later, and it started working again by then... :/ (plus I imagine I should clean house a little and hide the networking I have going on)
17:58.26archivistAxman6, you clocks old quit with as many chp types as he could think of
18:17.27CIA-6BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33296 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/nmg/nmg_mk.c: clean up comment style, doxygenify all the public funcs
18:25.02CIA-6BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33297 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/nmg/nmg_mk.c: reorder to remove the forward declarations, replace x%x with 0x%p where appropriate and quell all warnings
18:28.45CIA-6BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r33298 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/ (archer/Archer.tcl archer/ArcherCore.tcl lib/Ged.tcl): Added more wrappers for cadwidgets::Ged method calls in ArcherCore.
18:57.15*** join/#brlcad IriX64 (n=IriX64@bas2-sudbury98-1096601065.dsl.bell.ca)
18:59.15IriX64``Erik... just use printf("%s Version %ld \n",__FILE__,__VERSION__);      ;)
19:01.44IriX64warning... __VERSION__ redefine in (whatever.h)
19:02.16``Erikhuh?
19:02.33IriX64im being silly :)
19:03.08IriX64has archived brl-cad for a few days
19:03.16``Erikshould be more like PKG_VERSION
19:03.18``Erikiirc
19:03.26IriX64:)
19:04.24IriX64i acyually put that in mged (mged -v foo) and i get mged.c 4.2.1
19:05.31IriX64heh use __LINE if you want details :)
19:05.38IriX64err __LINE__
19:06.23IriX64caveat not all compilers support all three of these but most do
19:22.34``Eriknote that __LINE__ __FUNCTION__ and __FILE__ are compiler defined things, I'd imagine __VERSION__ is, too... for BRL-CAD version, you might want to explore the function brlcad_ident()
19:22.55IriX64noted :)
19:23.16IriX64where does it live so i dont have to grep the tree?
19:23.27``Erikum, include/something.h
19:23.39IriX64heh gee thanks :)
19:23.50``Erikinclude/brlcad_version.h
19:23.58IriX64much thanks
19:24.05``Erikmost of the libraries use it to create, like, rt_version()
19:24.45``Eriksrc/librt/vers.c for example
19:24.56IriX64thanks
19:25.18``Erikand if you search for _version in src/rt/main.c, you'll see where that big version banner comes from :)
19:25.55IriX64this changed when i introduced brlcad version 9.9.9 iirc :)
19:27.08IriX64whoa, if the string is null print the version number?!?!?!?!
19:28.15IriX64if (version[0] == 0) print the version blah blah
19:28.46IriX64in version.h line 139
19:28.56IriX64err brlcad_version.h
19:29.27IriX64door brb
19:30.37``Eriksnprintf(), to fill it in... otherwise, just return it (since we've done it already)
19:32.05IriX64ahh thanks i ll open ver.c for example a littyle later ok
19:33.18IriX64sn printf like sprintf?
19:33.46``Erikyes, with a max size, google it :)
19:33.56IriX64ahh ic fill the *whole string in
19:34.10IriX64ahh thanks
19:34.33IriX64case somebody absconded with the terminator eh :)
19:35.29IriX64is this kind of stuff documented somewhere?
19:35.57IriX64a master catalog or something of functions you expect people to use
19:36.08``Erikum, the man pages?
19:36.27IriX64that presumes you can install the beast :)
19:36.40``Erikcygwin doesn't have the manpage set?
19:37.31IriX64does but i rarely use it, so if i need a function like snprintf without knowing itgs name how do i man it?
19:37.58``Erikapropos (synonym for man -k)
19:38.38``Erikor go to http://www.linuxmanpages.com/ or something *shrug*
19:38.50IriX64heh ok
19:45.53IriX64IriX64@dee-f96eba0a615 ~
19:45.53IriX64$ ./test
19:45.53IriX64File test.c Line 6 Compiler Revision 4202505 Time 14:45:21
19:45.53IriX64IriX64@dee-f96eba0a615 ~
19:46.02IriX64$hows that :)
19:47.08IriX64drat i sed %ld instread of %d for compiler revision :)
19:47.08IriX64rev is 4.2.1
19:48.46IriX64its right
19:49.58IriX64http://rafb.net/p/mLdNdB64.html  heres the source heh
19:50.54IriX64``Erik, i haven't accepted, im just playing here
19:51.13IriX64ill try to study some of your functions
19:56.31IriX64ive gotta go, ill be back later on, ciao :)
21:07.52CIA-6BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r33299 10/brlcad/trunk/src/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Minor mods to ArcherCore - consolidate the command lists and a few name changes.
21:22.43CIA-6BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33300 10/brlcad/trunk/src/conv/patch/patch-g.c: ws, indent, and style consistency cleanup
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22:11.16starseekerbrlcad:  4261666 facets
22:13.35brlcadcool
22:13.54brlcadthat should be about 5-10 million points then
22:14.23starseekertries to run bot_decimate and hangs MGED
22:15.45starseekerAh, one maxed out cpu
22:15.51starseekerSharks...
22:16.41starseekerIt's all about edge_can_be_decimated
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22:23.04IriX64apologizes, just realized what im doing here, i won't use your channel to test schtuff like this anymore
22:24.39brlcadIriX64: that was actally all on topic and interactive
22:25.06IriX64well ... just in case anybody got discruntled :)
22:25.14IriX64disguntled too
22:25.24brlcadit's the long drawn out soliloquys that get folks disgruntled
22:25.38IriX64mea culpa :)
22:25.40brlcadand screenshots that are never of anything different.. :)
22:25.50IriX64:)
22:26.03IriX64are urls welcome though
22:27.01brlcadit depends entirely on the content
22:27.07brlcadit has to be something worthwhilee
22:27.16IriX64any idea how long ago i stumbled into this channel looking to render miss april :)
22:27.16brlcadrandom urls out of context .. are useless
22:27.33brlcadi'm sure I could pull that up
22:27.36IriX64ok
22:27.39brlcadhas logs of everythin
22:27.54IriX64how long has it been
22:29.45brlcad16:29 -!- Hagar [n=Hagar@toronto-HSE-ppp4309004.sympatico.ca] has joined #brlcad
22:29.51brlcadthat was on May 17th, 2006
22:29.58IriX64jeez
22:30.15brlcadso you count the days ;)
22:30.23alex_jonithat was my birthday :)
22:30.23IriX64then you taught me nickserv, did i ever thankyou?
22:30.51alex_jonibrlcad: do you have logs when I stumbled upon brlcad first?
22:32.07brlcadas I said..
22:32.12brlcadhas logs of everything ;)
22:32.31starseekerah, blackmail :-P
22:32.39archivistew /me hides
22:33.40IriX64back to play
22:34.28brlcadalex_joni: 15:58 -!- alex_joni [n=juve@emc/board-of-directors/alexjoni] has joined #brlcad
22:34.32brlcadNov 17th, 2007
22:34.38brlcadand no, I won't look anyone else up :)
22:34.49alex_joniheh, cool.. thanks for taking the trouble
22:36.15archivistI could self check but I think I deleted older logs on a disk full one day
22:39.40starseekerbrlcad:  I remember some discussion once about a higher performance alternative to using #define - what was the alternative?
22:42.07brlcadhigher "performance"?
22:42.17brlcad#defines just get replaced during preprocessing
22:42.23brlcadnot really a performance aspect to them
22:42.31starseekerAh, ok
22:42.36starseekercompile time only
22:42.46starseekernevermind
22:44.26brlcadthe problem with them is that they are not compiler symbols, they're replaced before the compiler sees them
22:44.53brlcadwhich can have a variety of unexpected or at least undesirable side-effects
22:45.05starseekernods
22:45.07brlcadthat was the whole issue with vmath's X, Y, Z defines
22:45.34brlcadthat's what Ralith just recently changed to an enum because of said problems
22:45.50brlcadsince it wasn't a compiler symbol, you'd have something like:
22:45.56brlcad#define X 0   (in vmath.h)
22:46.28brlcadand then some other code (maybe openNURBS for example), that would have something like:  int my_function(int X, int Y, int Z) { ....
22:46.40starseekerAh :-)
22:46.45brlcadwhich would then become: int my_function(int 0, int Y, int Z) { ...
22:46.50brlcadwhich is a syntax error of course
22:46.56starseekerow
22:47.20brlcadas an enum, they become compiler symbols and all is better with the world
22:47.31starseeker:-)
22:47.37brlcadbut that's not to say that you always want to use enums either... :)
22:59.44Ralith^^
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23:30.44``Erik_hm, it was much less cool when I first stumbled on BRL-CAD ... "qq, my job is going away" "send a rezoomy" "um, ok"
23:41.07archivistknows what "my jobs going away" feels like

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