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| 00:50.38 | starseeker | grins as freecad bombs trying to load the IGES openmoko model |
| 00:50.50 | starseeker | that one seems to be a toughie |
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| 02:41.02 | Dr_Phreakenstein | wow. those openmoko files are fairly sizable |
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| 03:43.48 | yukonbob | hello, cadheads |
| 03:58.23 | docelic | aoy yb |
| 04:29.11 | brlcad | howdy |
| 04:30.44 | DanielFalck | hi brlcad |
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| 04:48.36 | brlcad | howdy DanielFalck |
| 04:48.55 | brlcad | glad to see the problem was found/fixed |
| 04:49.00 | brlcad | john rocks |
| 04:52.32 | DanielFalck | I didn't update the whole build last night - just dxf-g |
| 04:52.40 | DanielFalck | it worked for rendering |
| 04:54.18 | DanielFalck | has there been any motion on the g-stl tesselation bug having to do with revolved entities? I suppose I should read through the source to check. |
| 05:07.43 | brlcad | shouldn't have needed to update everything |
| 05:07.57 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33564 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: |
| 05:07.57 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: bob changed the mged 'inside' command so that it'll no longer use the geometry |
| 05:07.57 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: being edited as the outside solid. this removes functionality but helps make |
| 05:07.57 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: mged stateless in the process (and was part of libged refactoring). reworded to |
| 05:07.57 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: fit to a one-liner. |
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| 05:14.29 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33565 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: |
| 05:14.29 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: john fixed a neat lil bug in dxf-g where it was creating double-edge sketch |
| 05:14.29 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: objects when converting each wire edge. this fixes sf bug 2457527 (rendering |
| 05:14.29 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: bug in revolved solid) by Dan Falck (ddfalck2002) where those same sketches |
| 05:14.29 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: failed to render as a solid of revolution. |
| 05:17.40 | brlcad | DanielFalck: that's not so much a bug as tess support just hasn't been implemented for revolves yet because they're so new |
| 05:18.03 | DanielFalck | yes, sorry you are right |
| 05:18.08 | DanielFalck | wrong term |
| 05:18.11 | brlcad | rather, there was a bug where it crashes.. that was fixed, I believe .. but it still won't tessellate until someone writes that code ;) |
| 05:18.38 | DanielFalck | would it help move things along if I put in a request on sourceforge? |
| 05:19.31 | brlcad | couldn't hurt |
| 05:19.43 | DanielFalck | ok, will do it. thanks |
| 05:19.43 | brlcad | but would probably be more effective to just keep asking pacman87 about it |
| 05:19.48 | brlcad | ~seen packman87 |
| 05:19.49 | ibot | brlcad: i haven't seen 'packman87' |
| 05:19.53 | brlcad | ~seen pacman87 |
| 05:19.53 | ibot | pacman87 <n=Timothy@pool-71-170-39-105.dllstx.fios.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 14d 5h 17m 40s ago, saying: 'also, if you're planning on adding that info to the windows readme, the link there is broken, too'. |
| 05:20.19 | brlcad | hm, looks like winter vacation isn't over yet |
| 05:22.33 | DanielFalck | oh, whoops I already reported it in December. |
| 05:22.43 | DanielFalck | Priority 6 |
| 05:22.47 | brlcad | ah, my bad |
| 05:23.13 | DanielFalck | I've been testing a lot of stuff lately. so many projects.... |
| 05:23.53 | DanielFalck | emc, aptsketch, freecad, varkon, heekscad/cnc etc... |
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| 05:25.37 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33566 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/revolve/revolve.c: ws |
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| 05:32.14 | DanielFalck | brlcad: thanks |
| 05:53.26 | brlcad | DanielFalck: hrm, well thank you for your patience too... so much to do, so little time |
| 05:54.04 | brlcad | a lot of the attention of late has been going into either simple maintenance or into the long-term priority efforts |
| 06:09.00 | louipc | DanielFalck: what would you say is the best for cad/cam on linux? |
| 06:15.44 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33567 10/brlcad/trunk/ (doc/deprecation.txt include/raytrace.h src/librt/db_io.c): db_free_external was deprecated before 7.0, source recommends calling bu_free_external instead. |
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| 12:10.18 | d-lo | mornin all |
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| 14:25.41 | brlcad | morning d-lo |
| 14:26.28 | d-lo | howdy howdy. |
| 14:26.56 | d-lo | how did you weekend go? |
| 14:27.05 | d-lo | s/you/your |
| 14:27.49 | brlcad | good and bad |
| 14:28.11 | d-lo | well thats good and sorry to hear that. |
| 14:29.33 | d-lo | did you get to play in the snow at all? |
| 14:33.50 | brlcad | nope, but had a nice party, did some shopping, did some work on the house, got some code done |
| 14:40.44 | d-lo | house warming party or 'just because' party ? |
| 14:48.47 | brlcad | playoff party |
| 14:50.57 | brlcad | installing a new electrical outlet behind the TV was probably the most interesting 'challenge'.. that lil job took hours (mostly fishing finding ways to fish the power up through the wall |
| 14:51.35 | brlcad | but it's in place now, no mistakes, no sparks, a thing of beauty |
| 14:52.01 | d-lo | yeah, running 'old work' wires through a house is really rough unless you have one of those 'ulstrasonic interference finder' devices and a 200' phish reel :/ |
| 14:53.00 | brlcad | I had a phish reel and a stud/power finder |
| 14:54.14 | d-lo | I had a friend down in white marsh that showed me a 'ultrasonic' device... shows everything behinds the wall...kinda like a fish finder. it was waaaaaay cool. trumped my B&D stud/power finder hands down :( |
| 14:54.18 | brlcad | the reel helped a little bit, but I still had to drill 2.5" hole halfway to try and feed |
| 14:54.40 | brlcad | ah one of those, yeah |
| 14:54.57 | d-lo | heh, just rip down all the drywall, install conduit, wire and redrywall :) |
| 14:55.02 | brlcad | I almost splurged for one of those lighted cameras that display to an lcd |
| 14:55.29 | d-lo | oooh, those pseudo-spy camera things? neat! |
| 14:56.17 | brlcad | this is the wall with the big tv, so the drywall is staying up there for quite a while :) |
| 14:57.07 | d-lo | good deal. |
| 14:57.31 | d-lo | Are you planning on running cat throughout the house? I can't remember if you are a wireless hater or not... |
| 14:58.20 | brlcad | one of these: http://tiny.cc/M0301 |
| 14:58.47 | brlcad | i'm not a hater, but I do like a wired line running to my main server |
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| 14:59.26 | d-lo | What Do Customers Ultimately Buy After Viewing This Item? 88% buy 'SWAT team costume with realistic FireArms' |
| 14:59.29 | brlcad | which is upstairs, so I do have to run some cat6 quite a ways |
| 14:59.57 | brlcad | heh, yours says that? |
| 15:00.04 | brlcad | mine says 78% buy that item |
| 15:00.14 | d-lo | is looking for a way to centralize all the cat6 in the vent shaft... might take some work :/ |
| 15:00.23 | d-lo | no, I just thought it would be cool if it did say that :) |
| 15:01.00 | brlcad | ah, heh |
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| 15:20.22 | ``Erik | "now with free fbi dossier" heh |
| 15:20.41 | d-lo | ``Erik: how ya feeling? |
| 15:20.49 | ``Erik | tired and old |
| 15:21.22 | ``Erik | I mostly didn't want to shovel the road out to where they bothered plowing |
| 15:21.35 | d-lo | well, there is some 'good' that can come from an extra day at home: more wow time ;) |
| 15:21.38 | ``Erik | private community roads suck when snow's around |
| 15:21.47 | ``Erik | nah, been cleaning and throwing cold weather gear in my car |
| 15:21.55 | ``Erik | and paying bills |
| 15:22.08 | d-lo | I know. They plowed my roads at 3 am..... bastards... |
| 15:22.52 | ``Erik | I can see where they plowed.. way out there... but I'd have to shovel more road than driveway to get there |
| 15:22.53 | ``Erik | :/ |
| 15:23.27 | ``Erik | and I can't find my gloves and hat, so I don't wanna be outside :D |
| 15:24.11 | d-lo | just thought of a new 'roomba'..... gas fired SnowThrowerOomba! |
| 15:25.41 | ``Erik | heh |
| 15:25.46 | ``Erik | dave, are you playing on fenix? |
| 15:26.01 | d-lo | nah... barely playing on Epsi. |
| 15:26.09 | ``Erik | there's a claymore in fenix fate |
| 15:26.19 | d-lo | got sucked back int a Civ4 addiction. |
| 15:26.24 | d-lo | orly? |
| 15:26.33 | d-lo | did they copy my profile? |
| 15:26.49 | ``Erik | http://fenix.astroempires.com/profile.aspx?player=11127 |
| 15:27.01 | ``Erik | no, but same name and guild |
| 15:27.16 | d-lo | heh, I think there is an Anime with the name Claymore |
| 15:27.31 | d-lo | just bombard him with 'POSER!!!!!' private messages for me, k? |
| 15:27.43 | ``Erik | ah, heh :D saw the name and the familiar "OMG he's got a" title :D |
| 15:27.50 | ``Erik | hrm, I'm not in fate, so I d'no if I wanna stir things up like that |
| 15:28.23 | ``Erik | <-- sometimes knows when to shut his mouth... on rare occasion... :D |
| 15:28.29 | d-lo | lol |
| 15:28.48 | d-lo | well its nice to know that I have a 'cool' internet handle :D |
| 15:29.00 | ``Erik | oh, brlcad, I stuck richard as contact and cliff as alt for in-house distribution, the s2 guys should be handling most of it for us |
| 15:29.04 | d-lo | should charge royalties......hrm..... |
| 15:29.17 | ``Erik | I think there may be prior art |
| 15:30.39 | ``Erik | (though "fire" was patented a few years ago... mebbe you could pull it off!) |
| 15:31.22 | d-lo | its my ticked to being a millionare! No wait.... |
| 15:32.21 | ``Erik | closes down gnucash |
| 15:32.34 | ``Erik | w00t, I'm a hundredaire! |
| 15:33.46 | d-lo | we need to start a l33t hundredaire club. |
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| 16:33.02 | Dr_Phreakenstein | brlcad: thanks a lot. now i have to buy one, too. recently got my first milwaukee corded drill, and now i know why people kill eachother over those things. |
| 16:34.29 | bjork_ | i use a ridgid. |
| 16:34.36 | bjork_ | the damned batteries are fried ... |
| 16:34.41 | Dr_Phreakenstein | nice |
| 16:34.53 | bjork_ | but the 18V li-ion ... very powerful |
| 16:34.57 | bjork_ | and relatively light weight. |
| 16:35.09 | Dr_Phreakenstein | milwaukee uses genuine panasonic batteries, as does bosch |
| 16:35.23 | Dr_Phreakenstein | those are the only 2 choices, in my book |
| 16:35.28 | bjork_ | i can drill holes with 5/16th screws into 1/4 inch thick steel sheets with it. |
| 16:35.33 | Dr_Phreakenstein | even so, corded is the way for me |
| 16:35.49 | Dr_Phreakenstein | yes, but how many? |
| 16:35.59 | bjork_ | 1 per hole, usually. |
| 16:36.07 | bjork_ | that's when i don't have a drill bit handy. |
| 16:36.11 | Dr_Phreakenstein | per battery? |
| 16:36.15 | bjork_ | oh no. |
| 16:36.23 | bjork_ | the battery lasts several holes. |
| 16:36.44 | bjork_ | i think something in the circuitry is gone bye-bye and so i have to have those replaced. |
| 16:37.06 | Dr_Phreakenstein | i have a lot of extension cords, so i just skip the battery altogether. |
| 16:37.28 | bjork_ | i hardly ever use chorded drills unless i'm drilling into an I-beam or something. |
| 16:37.41 | Dr_Phreakenstein | which I do |
| 16:37.49 | bjork_ | oh alright. |
| 16:37.53 | bjork_ | what for? the heck of it? |
| 16:38.14 | Dr_Phreakenstein | no, building my machine shop |
| 16:38.47 | bjork_ | cooooooool! |
| 16:39.36 | Dr_Phreakenstein | i even insist on keyed chucks. keyless does not grip well enough on a 1/2" TiN drill bit through 1" mild steel |
| 16:39.51 | bjork_ | so you already have the machines for the shop? |
| 16:40.32 | Dr_Phreakenstein | going to auction thursday |
| 16:40.37 | bjork_ | really nice. |
| 16:40.40 | Dr_Phreakenstein | toes crossed |
| 16:40.46 | bjork_ | but what do you need one for? |
| 16:40.48 | louipc | 1/2 drill is a bit big for keyless isn't it? |
| 16:41.14 | ``Erik | likes his makita |
| 16:41.30 | Dr_Phreakenstein | yes, they do not hold stil. even cheap keyed chucks do not suffice |
| 16:41.49 | louipc | oh you're talking about hand drills? |
| 16:41.51 | Dr_Phreakenstein | makita is my 3rd choice |
| 16:41.56 | Dr_Phreakenstein | yes |
| 16:42.10 | louipc | I guess it still applies |
| 16:42.21 | bjork_ | it's ridgid, hilti for #2, and bosch #3 |
| 16:42.30 | bjork_ | hilti's are not too cheap though. |
| 16:43.06 | Dr_Phreakenstein | now, i like the ridgid model 535 pipe machine, and i have one of their plumbing snakes nice |
| 16:43.50 | bjork_ | what do you need a machine shop for, Dr_Phreakenstein? |
| 16:44.20 | Dr_Phreakenstein | making money |
| 16:45.26 | bjork_ | are you a machinist? |
| 16:45.30 | Dr_Phreakenstein | I am taking classes now to become a machinist, but since i was in the army, i decided that i have worked for my last employer |
| 16:45.31 | louipc | my machine shop made chips but no money :( |
| 16:45.41 | Dr_Phreakenstein | bummer |
| 16:46.04 | bjork_ | custom parts and what not ? |
| 16:46.35 | louipc | you need CNC to make money nowadays |
| 16:47.01 | ``Erik | meh, I can't spend too much money on tools, I'm using craftsman instead of snapon for hand tools :D |
| 16:47.03 | archivist | for certain 1 offs non cnc is faster |
| 16:47.30 | bjork_ | ``Erik, craftsman replaces your tools for free so it's still a good choice. |
| 16:47.55 | louipc | money isn't really made on one-offs though |
| 16:48.09 | louipc | so you still need CNC to make money ;) |
| 16:48.15 | bjork_ | but if you're doing batch work, you'll be competing with the chinese. |
| 16:48.16 | archivist | canbe, I do 1 off gears, but on cnc |
| 16:49.02 | louipc | yeah and the chinese have shiny new tools |
| 16:49.08 | ``Erik | scratches his head and tries to figure out why there's some christian prayer going on during the inaguration |
| 16:49.47 | Dr_Phreakenstein | yeah, one of the machines for sale (actually they have 17) is cnc |
| 16:50.36 | archivist | I need 5 axix to cut my setup time down |
| 16:50.44 | Dr_Phreakenstein | Dr_Phreakenstein scratches his head and tries to figure out why Erik is watching the inaguration |
| 16:50.55 | Dr_Phreakenstein | well, i gotta start somewhere |
| 16:50.59 | louipc | get a lathe with bar feed, part catcher, then you can pump out parts. |
| 16:51.21 | Dr_Phreakenstein | :) |
| 16:51.23 | ``Erik | the un-bush, and the first black president of the us *shrug* at least I'm watching the bbc feed instead of fox :D |
| 16:51.43 | archivist | in BBC land not watching :) |
| 16:51.56 | Dr_Phreakenstein | good for you, both |
| 16:52.17 | louipc | I'll check that out on the tele |
| 16:52.24 | louipc | how long is it supposed to go on for? |
| 16:52.46 | ``Erik | 'bbc america' is regional and lame, though :( when I was in memphis, they showed tons of comedy like abfab, monty python, black adder, etc... here it's all stupid semi-reality show crap about dirty houses and shit |
| 16:53.03 | archivist | I want bar fed cnc sliding head lathe, I my scrounge a freebee and add cnc to it |
| 16:53.05 | bjork_ | he's NOT black! |
| 16:53.08 | bjork_ | geezus bleeding christ! |
| 16:53.51 | Dr_Phreakenstein | well, i hate to leave this, but gotta go to class and make chips! |
| 16:53.55 | louipc | well he's close enough for people to make a frenzy out of it |
| 16:54.06 | bjork_ | he's the first mixed president, that's for sure. |
| 16:54.18 | bjork_ | he's neither black nor white. |
| 16:54.32 | ``Erik | most of the US considers him black, though *shrug* imagine it goes back to that "one drop" mentality :/ |
| 16:55.11 | bjork_ | stupidity on display for the whole world to see. |
| 16:55.39 | bjork_ | i thought they called slick willie the first black president too at one point. |
| 16:57.18 | ``Erik | I thought that was due to childhood background, not ethnicity |
| 16:58.01 | bjork_ | i have no idea. |
| 16:58.18 | bjork_ | so if obama's dad had been latino, he'd be the first latino president? |
| 16:58.25 | bjork_ | instead of the first mullato? |
| 16:59.37 | ``Erik | if you wanna go down that slippery slope, we're all africans |
| 17:00.16 | brlcad | ``Erik: I saw the note, looked good (and they were better to be listed) |
| 17:00.33 | bjork_ | hahaha |
| 17:00.39 | ``Erik | but general perception of the populace is that he is black, *shrug* so it's a fairly important paradigm change :) |
| 17:01.21 | ``Erik | aight, brlcad, I got a call from the bc just before the meeting, so I had no clue what I was walking in to and what I could/should commit us to |
| 17:01.29 | bjork_ | i still think it's unfair. the world is simply not strictly binary. |
| 17:02.07 | ``Erik | ok, mebbe it's better to look at what he is not than what he is... he's not an old white guy |
| 17:02.55 | ``Erik | hopefully it's a sign that bigotry and prejudice and racism are dying out |
| 17:05.04 | bjork_ | hahaha |
| 17:05.28 | bjork_ | as long as humans remain, it'll be a primary element of social behavior. |
| 17:05.43 | bjork_ | overtly it no longer is that bad. |
| 17:05.50 | bjork_ | but people'll find ways and means. |
| 17:06.23 | bjork_ | s.a. suffered from the arpatheid regime for so long. black s.a-cans gained power... |
| 17:06.45 | bjork_ | and what do they do to the zimbabwe refugees, who are just like them? they murder them and beat them up. |
| 17:06.47 | ``Erik | oh, there'll be some way we break outselves out into smaller tribes, but mebbe it'll shift to merit instead of heredity |
| 17:06.55 | bjork_ | yeah. |
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| 20:12.50 | brlcad | hah, go me |
| 20:13.38 | brlcad | nice simple call for temporarily suspending a signal yet still delivering a raised signal if one is received while suspended once it's resumed |
| 20:22.36 | ``Erik | eh? |
| 20:29.28 | brlcad | dilute engrish in the excitement of it working |
| 20:42.01 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33568 10/brlcad/trunk/ (6 files in 4 dirs): |
| 20:42.01 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: Add new routines to libbu for temporarily suspending signal handling via a new |
| 20:42.01 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: bu_suspend_signal() and bu_restore_signal() interface. the previous handler is |
| 20:42.01 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: stashed and later restored. if that signal is received while suspended, the |
| 20:42.01 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: handler is called once restored. this can be useful for protecting critical |
| 20:42.04 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: sections. |
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| 21:45.30 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33569 10/brlcad/trunk/ (include/bu.h src/libbu/signal.c): prevent suspending the same signal multiple times (and clobbering the original handler). |
| 22:07.12 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33570 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/signal.c: hm, the logic with just one counter means the restore will not raise pending signals unless there are no other suspended signals. make them per-signal. |
| 22:15.25 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33571 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/db_io.c: protect all database writes from being interrupted by a signal, use the new bu routines for suspending a signal handler. |
| 22:20.56 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33572 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/ (inside.c typein.c): |
| 22:20.56 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: should no longer need the signal handler protections this high up in the API |
| 22:20.57 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: since there are protections at the lower-level db_write(). db_diradd() might |
| 22:20.57 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: also need bu_suspend_signal() proections but since it's all in-memory, it |
| 22:20.57 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: souldn't matter if it gets a signal that interrupts. |
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