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| 03:06.45 | yukonbob | evening cadheads |
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| 04:21.40 | brlcad | evening yukonbob |
| 04:46.35 | yukonbob | what's happening, 20h boy? |
| 04:48.09 | yukonbob | Hey -- we have an 'atom' primitive, don't we? |
| 04:48.24 | yukonbob | fuckinggooglesit. |
| 04:52.00 | brlcad | 20h? |
| 04:52.34 | brlcad | an atom primitive? there's a 'particle' primitive, otherwise you'd probably be best off using spheres |
| 04:53.23 | yukonbob | 20h wakefullness |
| 04:53.43 | yukonbob | particle is what I was thinking of... what are it's applications? |
| 04:53.43 | brlcad | there is a 'molecule' procedural geometry database generator that will create a model from Adams format |
| 04:53.48 | brlcad | ah, yup |
| 04:54.31 | brlcad | particle is more of a 'pill' primitive where you have two spheres connected via a tangent cylinder |
| 04:55.09 | brlcad | basically a pipe with rounded ends and you can independently adjust the radius of both ends |
| 04:56.05 | yukonbob | so, a sort of bar bell? |
| 04:57.59 | brlcad | no, not really |
| 04:58.11 | brlcad | if you want that, the 'molecule' procdb is more appropriate |
| 04:58.21 | brlcad | more like a pill |
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| 04:59.02 | yukonbob | what prompted it's creation -- seems like a strange primitive, or are there patterns that often call for it? |
| 05:00.04 | brlcad | I forget exactly what prompted it |
| 05:00.04 | yukonbob | ah... /me is imagining now... |
| 05:00.24 | brlcad | it's a bastard primitive, I think it should go away when it could be replaced with something more general |
| 05:00.24 | yukonbob | it really is shaped like an aspirin pill, or a 'Go' playing piece... right? |
| 05:00.56 | brlcad | http://brlcad.org/tmp/primitives/part.png |
| 05:01.11 | brlcad | change the two radii, the shape changes |
| 05:01.27 | brlcad | make them equal, looks like a pill |
| 05:01.42 | brlcad | otherwise just a cylinder with rounded edges |
| 05:02.40 | yukonbob | sees. |
| 05:02.52 | yukonbob | a candidate for a simple macro, it seems to me... |
| 05:03.08 | yukonbob | truncated cone + couple half spheres |
| 05:03.31 | yukonbob | (or cylinder + half spheres) |
| 05:04.28 | brlcad | or whole spheres, just union them |
| 05:04.48 | brlcad | a cylinder is a truncated cone |
| 05:05.06 | brlcad | rcc is a tgc (under the hood) |
| 05:05.24 | yukonbob | nods (makes sense) |
| 05:06.03 | yukonbob | any tricks w/ itcl/itk and tcl 8.5 that you can recall since 8.5 became standard? |
| 05:06.20 | yukonbob | s/tricks/build tricks/ |
| 05:06.45 | yukonbob | or did it pretty much Just Work |
| 05:15.42 | brlcad | I recall it just working, though had to use the latest of both |
| 05:16.32 | yukonbob | ok... fair enough... I'm going to work on getting 8.5.6 + itcl 3.3 working on my box here, then proceed from there... |
| 05:16.43 | yukonbob | itcl4 will be a Future Project |
| 05:17.52 | yukonbob | heh... /me is imagining himself in the third person as irix64 |
| 05:18.06 | yukonbob | who want to see a screenshot of my running compiler? |
| 05:20.18 | Ralith | :P |
| 05:20.29 | yukonbob | Ralith: is that a "no"? |
| 05:22.35 | Ralith | hehe |
| 05:22.39 | Ralith | of course not! |
| 05:24.07 | yukonbob | heh... I'll send irix an email to post a png for you... |
| 05:26.38 | yukonbob | nice... here's an old pic I sent as a respose to Irix posting all this "compiler screen shots" and fscking havoc renders. |
| 05:26.54 | yukonbob | http://www.methodlogic.net/flat/gfx/brlcad.gif |
| 05:27.49 | louipc | yukonbob: hahhhha |
| 05:29.01 | Ralith | yukonbob: what WM is that? |
| 05:29.12 | yukonbob | probably wmii. |
| 05:29.20 | yukonbob | I've since moved even more primitive... dwm |
| 05:29.59 | louipc | why'd you switch? |
| 05:30.45 | yukonbob | it's a bit hazy -- I think there were some issues w/ wmii and xinerama at some point, then I just switched to dwm (and two displays) and never switched back... |
| 05:31.36 | yukonbob | the "biggest" feature of wmii (over dwm) is probably their plan9 protocol, like procfs to the wm... which I found confusing and hardly used... so... |
| 05:31.37 | louipc | ah |
| 05:32.35 | Ralith | likes xmonad |
| 05:32.38 | yukonbob | dwm is a single, simple exectuable w/ virtual workspaces and a few org methods (ie: tiling, overlapping, etc) for windows... it works, and that's it. |
| 05:32.48 | Ralith | very powerful, flexible, lightweight |
| 05:32.54 | Ralith | with good multi-display support, too, so I hear. |
| 05:32.56 | Ralith | just has the one |
| 05:33.10 | Ralith | of course, the config file is in haskell, but it's not that hard to hack. |
| 05:33.24 | yukonbob | dwm != flexible, per se. No config. Just #defines in source. |
| 05:35.43 | Ralith | that doesn't sound like much fun. |
| 05:36.33 | louipc | so every user needs their own executable for their own preferences hah |
| 05:37.00 | Ralith | that would be problematic. |
| 05:37.15 | yukonbob | not that many tuneables though... it's not built for chrome. |
| 05:37.16 | louipc | could be |
| 05:37.34 | Ralith | yukonbob: give xmonad a try sometime ^^ |
| 05:37.40 | Ralith | it's shiny. |
| 05:37.45 | yukonbob | heh |
| 05:37.50 | yukonbob | I'll keep it in mind.. |
| 05:37.55 | louipc | xmonad is tiling + floating yeah? |
| 05:38.13 | Ralith | it's really a tiling wm, but with support for making windows floating if necessary |
| 05:38.24 | Ralith | so things like modal dialogs don't get annoying |
| 05:38.31 | Ralith | file selectors, etc |
| 05:38.37 | louipc | I mean to try some of these, but I'm content with openbox so there's no motivation |
| 05:38.48 | Ralith | tiling wms are great |
| 05:38.54 | Ralith | so much more efficient |
| 05:39.00 | louipc | how so? |
| 05:39.14 | Ralith | no wasted screen space |
| 05:39.19 | Ralith | no wasted time rearranging things |
| 05:39.29 | Ralith | no wasted time reaching for the mouse to perform basic actions |
| 05:40.44 | louipc | ah. I don't have much window action really |
| 05:41.08 | louipc | just a few terms and screen pretty much :D |
| 05:41.19 | Ralith | having a keyboard driven design from the ground up is a big benefit, though |
| 05:41.32 | Ralith | and you'd be surprised how nice it is to have things not overlap |
| 05:41.47 | yukonbob | ^---is true, and unappreciated until tried. |
| 05:41.54 | Ralith | indeed. |
| 05:42.04 | Ralith | I used to think it was a horrible idea |
| 05:42.08 | louipc | yeah that is true |
| 05:42.14 | Ralith | then I got into haskell and decided to give xmonad a go just because |
| 05:42.19 | Ralith | never looked back |
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| 11:25.24 | d-lo | ``Erik or brlcad : do you have paulettes extention #? |
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| 13:41.54 | d-lo | nuthin eh? |
| 13:42.26 | d-lo | And here I thought PA would be used to snow. I have never seen roads this bad after 3 inches of snow + 1 inch of ice.... |
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| 13:49.38 | ``Erik | heh, yeah, I chickened out and am hiding from the weather today |
| 13:49.59 | ``Erik | I know 6339 rings on paulettes phone, but that's the BC's # |
| 13:57.57 | d-lo | found Paulette's. its 6304.... 4 more than ed's makes it easy |
| 13:58.36 | d-lo | I did a test run of thr roads and ran up to the local gas'n'go place. Roads are terrible. Its shocking really. |
| 14:39.41 | starseeker | will be trying in about an hour or so |
| 14:39.58 | starseeker | they must be working on them |
| 14:45.19 | d-lo | Bah... they had all night to work on em. Its not like this 'storm' was a surprise ;) |
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| 14:59.08 | ``Erik | is still hearing trucks scraping O.o |
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| 15:05.22 | carcarcdr | Hi ! |
| 15:06.30 | carcarcdr | I have some questions about brlcad ... |
| 15:06.59 | d-lo | saw a plow.... about 1/2 away :/ |
| 15:07.12 | d-lo | carcarcdr: Howdy! I'll answer any questions I can. |
| 15:07.22 | d-lo | saw a plow.... about 1/2 mile away :/ |
| 15:10.38 | carcarcdr | thank you so much d-lo ... |
| 15:11.07 | carcarcdr | the question is I'm evaluating brlcad against Catia and NX6 for a research project ... |
| 15:11.42 | carcarcdr | the fact is that I didn't find any spline manipulation tool ... tangencies ... etc ... |
| 15:13.07 | carcarcdr | Know thats CSL tool but it seems too low level for my project isn't it ? |
| 15:21.49 | d-lo | Hrm, perhaps. the guy named brlcad in this channel can answer those questions to a higher degree of techincality, but as of right now, we do not have spline capability finished. |
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| 16:11.49 | starseeker | whew. The Hotchkiss docs require a lot more work per page than the Mark VIII did |
| 17:24.47 | ``Erik | huh, two plows just came through my cul de sac |
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| 22:02.56 | brlcad | bah, wusses.. :) |
| 22:03.08 | starseeker | came in |
| 22:03.34 | starseeker | which doesn't necessarily invalid the point, granted... |
| 22:03.40 | brlcad | the streets to get out of the city and through aberdeen were absolutely aweful yet I managed to make it in with my little ice buggy |
| 22:04.00 | starseeker | I think it's a reward/risk calculation |
| 22:04.06 | brlcad | yeah |
| 22:04.10 | brlcad | hence, wusses :) |
| 22:05.32 | brlcad | shame, carcarcdr left |
| 22:09.36 | starseeker | <snort> |
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