| 00:17.32 | ``Erik | ho hum |
| 00:22.53 | Ralith | hum ho |
| 00:25.42 | ``Erik | hum, ho, hum! |
| 00:25.44 | ``Erik | :D |
| 00:26.26 | Ralith | ho, hum, ho? |
| 00:26.28 | Ralith | :x |
| 00:31.42 | starseeker | huh? |
| 00:34.59 | ``Erik | no, you're supposed to hum, not huh |
| 00:34.59 | ``Erik | :D |
| 00:35.01 | ``Erik | *duck* |
| 00:35.57 | starseeker | heh |
| 00:38.32 | starseeker | really really really needs to merge sed/oed |
| 00:54.40 | ``Erik | blargh, in-memory presistence is something beyond a lot of web language/frameworks capabilities it seems :/ |
| 00:56.48 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r33760 10/brlcad/trunk/regress/mged/ (14 files): Add remainder of editing commands to tcl based regression testing |
| 01:05.04 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r33761 10/brlcad/trunk/regress/mged/ (Makefile.am kill.mged killall.mged killtree.mged mged.tcl): Add kill commands |
| 01:47.37 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r33762 10/brlcad/trunk/regress/mged/ (28 files): Add view commands to tcl based regression testing. |
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| 04:16.42 | starseeker | grr - I still get the file dialog failure |
| 04:16.51 | starseeker | got some debugging on it this time though |
| 04:17.45 | starseeker | http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m50b34840 |
| 04:21.19 | starseeker | brlcad: would BRL-CAD be involved with that pointer being null somehow, or is this a Tk<->X11 issue? |
| 04:21.43 | starseeker | tests 7.12.6 |
| 04:22.33 | starseeker | it does NOT happen in 7.12.6 |
| 04:22.43 | starseeker | alright, this is officially STRANGE |
| 04:23.58 | starseeker | wait... |
| 04:24.07 | starseeker | me recompiles 7.12.6 with this version of Xorg |
| 04:25.44 | Dr_Phreakenstein | what file dialog failure? |
| 04:26.22 | Dr_Phreakenstein | other tk programs have lately taken to crashing upon attempts to select and open files |
| 04:29.17 | ``Erik | checks out clozure |
| 04:43.46 | starseeker | Dr_Phreakenstein: precisely what I'm seeing |
| 04:44.04 | starseeker | any bug filed that we can track? |
| 05:15.44 | brlcad | starseeker: should have continued the bt to see the rest of the stack |
| 05:16.22 | brlcad | it conceivably could be a bug with the new ttk layer, but not as likely as something on our end |
| 05:16.28 | louipc | starseeker: mged on r33756 works for me! |
| 05:22.33 | starseeker | brlcad: I have the full bt, hang on... |
| 05:23.14 | starseeker | http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m65ddbd44 |
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| 11:05.19 | brlquestions | Hi everybody ! |
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| 12:41.09 | starseeker | brlcad: It's either tcl/tk specific or something at the btclsh level |
| 12:41.28 | starseeker | brlcad: using the test code from here: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1863942&group_id=12997&atid=112997 |
| 12:41.41 | starseeker | straight up in btclsh, I get the same segmentation fault |
| 12:45.31 | starseeker | however, in 7.12.6, also in btclsh, on the same machine, the same minimal test code works |
| 12:51.07 | starseeker | http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m6bdffd96 |
| 12:53.13 | starseeker | according to svn, neither our tcl nor our tk has had a change applied since Nov 2008 |
| 12:56.43 | starseeker | shudders to think that the problem might predate that but grabs 7.14.0 to test |
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| 13:24.05 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03d_rossberg * r33763 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/CMakeLists.txt: added nmg_fix_normals.c to be in sync with Makefile.am |
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| 13:26.00 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03d_rossberg * r33764 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/db5_io.c: corrected direction of a memcpy (rt_db_put_internal for in-memory databases) |
| 13:29.11 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03d_rossberg * r33765 10/rt^3/trunk/ (include/brlcad/Object.h src/coreInterface/Database.cpp): clean-up of db_i handling (this should not change anything) |
| 13:34.27 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03d_rossberg * r33766 10/rt^3/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 13:34.27 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: added the half-space object |
| 13:34.27 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: (it is simple and well suited to test some basic concepts) |
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| 13:42.24 | starseeker | growls in disbelief as 7.14.0 refuses to compile on his box |
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| 14:45.37 | starseeker | 7.14.0 fails too |
| 14:45.39 | starseeker | wow |
| 14:50.54 | starseeker | brlcad: I'm beginning to suspect it's related to that generic event patch, but testing it will take a while on this box |
| 14:51.01 | starseeker | OK, coming in |
| 14:55.12 | brlcad | starseeker: which patch? |
| 14:55.44 | louipc | starseeker: I had a problem building 7.14.0 too |
| 14:55.52 | brlcad | louipc: oh? |
| 14:55.54 | louipc | try using: SC_PATH_TCLCONFIG=-- ./configure --with-tcl=/usr/lib |
| 14:56.19 | louipc | yeah that fixed it |
| 14:56.48 | brlcad | what does SC_PATH_TCLCONFIG=-- do? |
| 14:56.56 | brlcad | aside from the obvious |
| 14:57.27 | brlcad | suspects starseeker actually ran off |
| 14:57.33 | brlcad | d_rossberg: nice example |
| 14:57.46 | louipc | hmm I forget |
| 15:01.20 | louipc | brlcad: oh I think the configure script didn't have --with-tcl enabled which could have been solved by running autogen again |
| 15:08.34 | d_rossberg | brlcad: isn't it :) next i try to add an object to the database |
| 15:10.08 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03Sean 07http://brlcad.org * r1208 10/wiki/Animation: start the animation tutorial with the example that lee butler sent to the mailing list in march 2006 |
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| 15:27.57 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03Erik 07http://brlcad.org * r1209 10/wiki/Main_Page: /* Tutorials */ add animation. sort. |
| 15:49.25 | starseeker | brlcad: the patch to tkBind.c |
| 15:50.02 | starseeker | that was the solution for newer Xorg versions causing Tk to fail - or rather, it was the first round solution |
| 15:50.12 | starseeker | it looks like it was NOT the solution they ultimately went with |
| 15:52.03 | starseeker | Er, no correction |
| 15:52.18 | starseeker | the newest one is from the gentoo ebuild tracker |
| 15:52.35 | starseeker | sigh |
| 15:52.53 | starseeker | I've got a test build going at home with 8.5.6 just to see if it works |
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| 16:06.53 | ``Erik | *think* |
| 16:10.32 | starseeker | ``Erik: are you authorized to think? |
| 16:12.53 | ``Erik | not on duty at the moment, I'm allowed to try new things when I'm off :D |
| 16:13.00 | starseeker | ah |
| 16:13.13 | ``Erik | rdo+holiday == 4 day weekend, w00t |
| 16:13.13 | starseeker | tries to think why a build would fail with |
| 16:13.16 | starseeker | regex.h:138: error: parse error before 're_void' |
| 16:13.26 | ``Erik | something before re_void didn't parse |
| 16:13.53 | starseeker | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:13.53 | starseeker | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:14.01 | ``Erik | I've noticed new regex.h fighting on the mac, not sure why |
| 16:14.08 | starseeker | oh no, not again |
| 16:14.10 | ``Erik | what's __REG_VOID_T defined as? |
| 16:14.18 | starseeker | not sure |
| 16:14.28 | ``Erik | gcc -E |
| 16:14.40 | ``Erik | or start grepping |
| 16:14.54 | starseeker | in that file it's supposed to be undefed if deffed |
| 16:14.58 | starseeker | er defed |
| 16:15.07 | ``Erik | typedef NULL re_void; might not go so well |
| 16:15.13 | starseeker | crap gotta run |
| 16:15.33 | starseeker | bbl |
| 16:15.37 | ``Erik | hasta |
| 16:15.56 | starseeker | this is standard tcl 8.5.6 with no mods - wouldn't expect their regex.h to be foobared... |
| 16:22.52 | ``Erik | mebbe not, but it may conflict weird with the system regex.h (that they called theirs regex.h is fubar, frankly) |
| 16:36.49 | ``Erik | bleh, they changed slime |
| 16:46.11 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33767 10/brlcad/trunk/src/conv/proe-g.c: ws and style consistency cleanup |
| 17:10.52 | ``Erik | gets the impression _sushi_ is looking for a match on a painted up vw minibus O.o |
| 17:14.54 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03Sean 07http://brlcad.org * r1210 10/wiki/Animation: extensive rewrite and expansion of how to create an animation |
| 17:16.05 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03Sean 07http://brlcad.org * r1211 10/wiki/Main_Page: stray ] |
| 17:16.15 | ``Erik | thinks it'd be neat to have keyframe and bezier path spline information in the .g file :D |
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| 18:05.21 | brlcad | omg, this is hilarious (NSFW) .. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5sTBrs4fhQ |
| 18:07.19 | ``Erik | O.o heh, condom balloon animal orgy, pheer |
| 18:08.24 | archivist | good one! |
| 18:09.05 | ``Erik | hah, they did outtakes, even |
| 18:35.41 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r33768 10/brlcad/trunk/src/mged/mged.c: While I agree with this sentiment regarding Windows, this bit of artwork does not belong here. |
| 18:38.49 | brlcad | aww |
| 19:13.43 | starseeker | why is proe-g.c pulling in the tcl regex? grr |
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| 20:32.17 | brlcad | starseeker: any progress? |
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| 21:31.40 | brlcad | oh, now that is too cool |
| 21:31.44 | brlcad | http://imagebin.ca/view/QO3itGqg.html |
| 21:32.03 | brlcad | done by three high school girls in spain for a class assignment |
| 21:32.17 | brlcad | er, portugal |
| 22:41.35 | starseeker | brlcad: not yet |
| 22:41.49 | starseeker | been working on other odds and ends |
| 22:42.53 | starseeker | same regex failure on linux with 8.5.6 thoygh |
| 22:43.02 | brlcad | might want to check out the history in src/other/tcl |
| 22:43.32 | brlcad | recall there being a couple header edits for previous revisions, don't know if those have to be preserved when bundled |
| 22:43.38 | starseeker | ah |
| 22:43.48 | starseeker | takes a look |
| 22:44.23 | ``Erik | yes, they do, and I forget which header |
| 22:44.42 | ``Erik | if the package gets updated, a line has to be added or the regex errors come back :( |
| 22:55.58 | brlcad | someone(tm) should push a fix upstream so they fix their regexness |
| 22:59.14 | ``Erik | 2000 seconds left |
| 23:07.21 | brlcad | oh right |
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| 23:10.40 | starseeker | brlcad: would they pay attention to me? I'd love to not have to worry about this :-) |
| 23:13.41 | brlcad | if the patch made sense, sure |
| 23:14.46 | brlcad | they'll probably bitch about being embedded and saying it's a problem with the CPPFLAGS (which would be partially true), but if the fix doesn't hurt their build they'd probably apply it |
| 23:17.42 | starseeker | ``Erik: were the header edits made within the context of svn or were they made before the update was committed? |
| 23:18.07 | starseeker | is looking at the log of src/other/tcl back to r27734... |
| 23:19.46 | ``Erik | um, I'm sure I patched it as its own item at some point |
| 23:20.38 | ``Erik | 28466 |
| 23:20.47 | ``Erik | in generic/ |
| 23:20.51 | starseeker | ah - thanks |
| 23:22.07 | ``Erik | hm, it's still in there |
| 23:22.19 | starseeker | in the tree? yeah |
| 23:22.24 | starseeker | I'm testing before committing |
| 23:22.30 | starseeker | I haven't touched trunk |
| 23:22.59 | starseeker | bingo, build continuing |
| 23:23.49 | starseeker | ``Erik, brlcad: thanks! |
| 23:24.07 | ``Erik | np |
| 23:24.14 | starseeker | brlcad: would upstream accept that include? |
| 23:26.12 | starseeker | must remember to grab bob's fix for large parsing too... |
| 23:29.51 | brlcad | don't recall what the fix was |
| 23:30.42 | ``Erik | adding a #include "./tclInt.h" to regex.h |
| 23:32.13 | brlcad | ah, right |
| 23:32.54 | ``Erik | we just passed magic time |
| 23:46.40 | starseeker | coool :-) |
| 23:47.08 | ``Erik | is suprised there was no /wall |
| 23:48.52 | starseeker | figures given how long ago that fix was applied someone probably tried it and got turned down... |
| 23:49.08 | ``Erik | *sigh* in the beginnig was sccs, and it was. Then came rcs, and it was better. Then came CVS, and all was good. Then came svn... eh. Then came darcs, mecurial, git, etc and now it's all fucked up |
| 23:49.25 | starseeker | what happened? |
| 23:49.44 | ``Erik | well, I want to install a couple small lisp libraries |
| 23:49.54 | starseeker | ah :-) |
| 23:49.57 | ``Erik | but the community seems to have decided that making releases sucks |
| 23:50.02 | ``Erik | "just use the repo" |
| 23:50.04 | ``Erik | ... |
| 23:50.17 | ``Erik | so now I'm installing too much shit for a small libraries small dependancy |
| 23:50.20 | starseeker | woooooooooot - 8.5.6 works without segfaulting on the file open dialog |
| 23:50.53 | brlcad | excellent |
| 23:51.03 | starseeker | loads tire and raytraces it... |
| 23:51.23 | ``Erik | sorry, brlcad, your new server is getting git installed :( |
| 23:51.30 | brlcad | meh |
| 23:51.31 | starseeker | and is again made painfully aware of how much his system sucks compared to the SuperMacs |
| 23:52.17 | ``Erik | yeah, but you went through all the trouble of installing the 387 yourself just to speed it up, it'd be a waste to ditch it now ;) |
| 23:52.54 | starseeker | hehe |
| 23:53.12 | starseeker | annnnnd... archer still dislikes me as much as ever |
| 23:53.49 | starseeker | unknown option "-menu" |
| 23:54.44 | starseeker | ``Erik: what's the best procedure for upgrading tcl/tk - svn del everything and add in the new, copy it over and update,... ? |
| 23:55.17 | brlcad | merge it in |
| 23:55.46 | starseeker | right, but to make sure I clear out un-used files and add in files not in currently... |
| 23:55.54 | brlcad | svn add the new files, svn delete the removed files, commit the whole thing as one step |
| 23:55.57 | ``Erik | um, I untarred tcl/tk into a tmp directory, did a find to build a manifest, plus a manifest of the existing stuff, copied it all over, diffed the two manifests to see what to do |
| 23:56.05 | starseeker | got it |
| 23:56.09 | ``Erik | finding the removed files is the part I think he's asking about |
| 23:56.26 | brlcad | yeah, diff the trees |
| 23:57.11 | brlcad | after you copy it all over, the new stuff is easily identified if your build dir was clean to start with -- no unknown files, so anything unknown is a new file |
| 23:57.17 | brlcad | do the diff, and it'll say what to remove |
| 23:57.34 | starseeker | all rightie |
| 23:57.59 | starseeker | smacks self on forehead as he just realizes he built in-tree after all that trouble to set up building out of tree... |
| 23:58.00 | brlcad | i think there's maybe even a way to make "svn merge" do the work for you, but never tried it |
| 23:58.16 | brlcad | distclean ftw |
| 23:59.13 | starseeker | ah, right |