| 00:18.02 | brlcad | madant: anderson can be quite a rude asshole if he's not kept in check (and that's not my job, but he was out of line, imho) |
| 00:18.27 | brlcad | mafm, thx |
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| 00:26.53 | Malyce | hey brl |
| 00:27.07 | Malyce | I was studying the examples for the primitives |
| 00:27.10 | Malyce | arb8 |
| 00:27.46 | Malyce | It seems to me, that the .cpp file, ie. the core extension offers very little as an API |
| 00:27.53 | Malyce | arb8.cpp |
| 00:28.20 | Malyce | it lets you basically create the arb and access the vertice data |
| 00:28.33 | Malyce | while the older c file seemed to provide much more function |
| 00:28.39 | Malyce | like centroid |
| 00:28.47 | Malyce | for example |
| 00:28.59 | Malyce | centroid of the arb |
| 00:29.19 | Malyce | I was wondering whether this was the intention, or whether this was still a WIP |
| 00:30.08 | ``Erik | mafm: e46 m3 :) |
| 00:30.12 | Malyce | since, I still haven't got a reply to my last mail to the mailing list, I wasn't sure how long it will take my question to get answered by Mr.Rossberg |
| 00:30.55 | brlcad | WIP |
| 00:31.01 | Malyce | there are not as many comments in the cpp file, as there are in the older c file, so I can't tell |
| 00:31.02 | Malyce | oh |
| 00:31.14 | brlcad | Malyce: with any message to the mailing list, you have to wait a couple days |
| 00:31.19 | Malyce | so the extension that I make can be a similar WIP ? |
| 00:31.22 | brlcad | many of the devs don't work/communicate on the weekend |
| 00:31.30 | Malyce | I can understand that |
| 00:31.32 | brlcad | many others don't work/communicate during the week |
| 00:31.40 | Malyce | though it doesn't bode well for me |
| 00:31.57 | ``Erik | :) |
| 00:32.11 | Malyce | but I am guessing that me creating a similar WIP would then suffice |
| 00:35.26 | ``Erik | what are you looking for? |
| 00:36.50 | Malyce | me ? |
| 00:36.58 | Malyce | creating code for GSCOC |
| 00:37.32 | Malyce | I was just understanding how Mr.Rossberg implemented primitives so far |
| 00:39.36 | Malyce | well, goodnight for now |
| 01:01.54 | starseeker | is still grooving out on REDUCE becoming FOSS |
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| 02:23.39 | madant | brlcad: huh ? ( didn't get the comment about anderson :) ) |
| 02:24.16 | madant | on an unconnected note :) i am called a rude asshole by a lot of people :D |
| 02:26.12 | madant | brlcad: ah David Anderson :) only read the whole thread now :D |
| 02:34.13 | andrecastelo | hi cadheads :) |
| 02:36.23 | madant | heh.. we have yukonbob2.0 now :P |
| 02:46.55 | andrecastelo | brlcad: saw your mails to the gsoc list, and i liked it very much heheh |
| 02:47.00 | andrecastelo | s/mails/mail |
| 05:19.53 | starseeker | ah, nuts - openmoko is discontinued |
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| 07:21.07 | hippieindamakin8 | hasnt recieved any comments yet ! |
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| 11:42.51 | ``Erik | hm |
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| 17:06.48 | typ0 | I still can't run mged in Mac Leopard PPC |
| 17:07.11 | typ0 | crashes in DisplayWidth() in X_open_dm from dm-X.c |
| 17:08.09 | typ0 | i tried a simple xtest.c program to test XOpenDisplay() and DisplayWidth() after, and everything went fine |
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| 17:24.21 | Malyce | hiya |
| 17:24.25 | Malyce | I had a thought |
| 17:24.50 | Malyce | brlcad doesn't have some higher primitives like lofts or sweeps |
| 17:25.03 | Malyce | and such |
| 17:25.46 | Malyce | Since the people I was working with are basically trying to create point clouds of these structures in Haskell |
| 17:25.59 | Malyce | using model params I extract from Solidworks |
| 17:26.21 | Malyce | and since, my employers are a research institute, its all open source |
| 17:26.49 | Malyce | You guys might find the stuff useful, once we are done |
| 17:27.04 | brlcad | typ0: is x11 running? did you compile with/without ogl enabled? |
| 17:27.11 | Malyce | although right now, we are only starting on splines |
| 17:27.17 | Malyce | no |
| 17:27.24 | Malyce | oops sorry |
| 17:27.26 | brlcad | Malyce: there are a couple higher-level primitives, extrusions and pipes (limited sweeps) |
| 17:27.38 | Malyce | yes, I saw pipes |
| 17:27.54 | Malyce | We have covered extrusions already |
| 17:27.59 | Malyce | but so have oyu |
| 17:28.00 | Malyce | you |
| 17:28.13 | Malyce | plus we are working in Haskell |
| 17:28.27 | brlcad | yeah, that'd be a problem |
| 17:28.29 | Malyce | but I guess, it would help in understanding the final solid |
| 17:28.34 | brlcad | our core libs are C for a variety of reasons |
| 17:28.40 | Malyce | since we only care about the point clouds |
| 17:28.52 | brlcad | we also have a new point cloud primitive ;) |
| 17:29.13 | Malyce | no, I meant not as a primitive |
| 17:29.39 | Malyce | the purpose of my research was to get mathematical representations from CAD software |
| 17:30.06 | Malyce | so once we cover Lofts et al, the documentation from our project might come in handy |
| 17:30.19 | Malyce | just as a math basis |
| 17:30.57 | Malyce | or maybe that is already too trivial, since ppl working with BRL seem to have a lot of industry experience |
| 17:31.34 | Malyce | so they might already know the ins and outs of the math representations already |
| 17:31.48 | Malyce | of the primitives that is |
| 17:31.53 | Malyce | just a thought |
| 17:36.42 | brlcad | Malyce: for what it's worth, we don't have a LOT of features not for lack of wanting those features or even lack of knowledge on how to implement those features or for not thinking about said features |
| 17:37.10 | brlcad | there is simply just limited manpower and specific priorities, so it's up to those contributing |
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| 17:59.54 | brlcad | so yeah, it'd be great to have those features .. just need someone like yourself to implement them ;) |
| 18:06.57 | Malyce | actually that's not a bad idea |
| 18:07.18 | Malyce | because I suspect I might be done with my primary goal pretty fast |
| 18:07.37 | typ0 | brlcad: i don't know, i just did the autogen.sh && ./configure && make && make install |
| 18:07.41 | Malyce | so I could attempt to add a new primitive as well |
| 18:07.53 | typ0 | is there a way to know from the build result if ogl is enabled ? |
| 18:07.58 | typ0 | and i have X11 running |
| 18:08.33 | brlcad | typ0: type fbhelp |
| 18:09.29 | typ0 | my DISPLAY env var is set to "/tmp/launch-2P5H3l/:0" |
| 18:09.46 | typ0 | fbhelp launches a black window, and in the terminal there's no references to opengl |
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| 18:59.22 | typ0 | is it normal to get these warnings in the end of running make: |
| 18:59.24 | typ0 | ranlib: file: .libs/libdm.a(libdm_la-dm-ogl.o) has no symbols |
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| 23:24.45 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34155 10/brlcad/trunk/TODO: |
| 23:24.45 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: integrate a library tester into the regression suite. would be good to have a |
| 23:24.45 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: simple dynamic loading tool that will take a built library and compare the |
| 23:24.45 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: symbols its header says should be there. moreover, we could make sure those |
| 23:24.46 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: functions will also run (with zero/null arguments) without crashing. quick test |
| 23:24.48 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: shows that this should be entirely feasible and should uncover a lot of |
| 23:24.50 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: inconsistency cleanup. |
| 23:27.11 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34156 10/brlcad/trunk/regress/ (Makefile.am testlib.c): add a stubbed out library tester. far from complete, but it already is a proof-of-concept for loading a library and loading/testing symbols within that library. |
| 23:31.15 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34157 10/brlcad/trunk/regress/testlib.c: include an example use that tests libbu functions |
| 23:42.25 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34158 10/brlcad/trunk/regress/testlib.c: oop, there's a comment sequence in there |