| 00:42.24 | starseeker | hs extremely evil though - if GM is forced to declare bankruptcy, what happens to their CAD system? |
| 00:43.44 | starseeker | 'course, if it's anything like their cars it may not matter much... |
| 00:44.09 | Ralith | perhaps a donation-funded organization representing the oss CAD community could purchase the IP :D |
| 00:45.25 | ``Erik | if gm goes 11, their assets are auctioned and someone buys the chunk that owns the cad IP |
| 00:46.10 | starseeker | bids $20 |
| 00:46.48 | ``Erik | FI DORRA! |
| 00:53.57 | Ralith | we could pull a blender |
| 01:56.13 | brlcad | not likely, their CAD system is worth a whole lot more (by a couple orders) than blender was before open source |
| 01:57.44 | brlcad | either way, not bloody likely anything would happen to it other than getting retained as someone else's IP |
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| 01:58.01 | archivist | use Zimbabwe dollars then they have bigger numbers |
| 02:06.23 | rbfish2k | hi |
| 02:06.31 | rbfish2k | i am compiling brlcad in cygwin |
| 02:06.34 | rbfish2k | but i got the error: |
| 02:06.40 | rbfish2k | In file included from /home/ken/rbfish2k/brlcad/brlcad/trunk/src/other/tk/unix/../generic/tkButton.c:19: |
| 02:06.41 | rbfish2k | /home/ken/rbfish2k/brlcad/brlcad/trunk/src/other/tk/unix/../generic/default.h:21:29: tkWinDefault.h: No such file or directory |
| 02:06.49 | rbfish2k | anyone can help me out? |
| 02:11.46 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34313 10/brlcad/trunk/src/mged/ (cmd.h setup.c): doesn't seem to be any need for mged_cmdtab to be non-static any longer. |
| 02:13.19 | brlcad | rbfish2k: yeah, you need to modify the header search paths (CPPFLAGS) to include -Isrc/other/tk/win |
| 02:14.47 | brlcad | what's peculiar is that should already be happening |
| 02:15.16 | rbfish2k | i should first do something like "export CPPFLAGS=-Isrc/other/tk/win"? |
| 02:15.55 | brlcad | no |
| 02:16.33 | brlcad | try this first: grep TK_CPPFLAGS src/other/Makefile |
| 02:18.26 | rbfish2k | now it is "TK_CPPFLAGS = -I${top_srcdir}/src/other/tk/generic -I${top_srcdir}/src/other/tk/unix -I${top_srcdir}/src/other/tk/win". |
| 02:18.28 | rbfish2k | correct? |
| 02:18.32 | brlcad | yes |
| 02:18.45 | brlcad | so it's just not using that TK_CPPFLAGS in the tk build |
| 02:19.03 | brlcad | try: cd src/other/tk |
| 02:19.55 | brlcad | grep top_srcdir Makefile |
| 02:19.55 | brlcad | what's that give? |
| 02:20.12 | brlcad | (the first one) |
| 02:20.26 | brlcad | probably ../../.. ? |
| 02:20.39 | rbfish2k | yes, you are right. |
| 02:21.24 | rbfish2k | how can i fix the problem? |
| 02:21.25 | brlcad | if so, run this after the cd: CPPFLAGS="-I../../../src/other/tk/generic -I../../../src/other/tk/win -I../../../src/other/tk/unix" make |
| 02:21.58 | rbfish2k | thanks. let me try. |
| 02:22.12 | PrezKennedyII | brlcad, what are you doing here on a Friday night?? |
| 02:22.14 | brlcad | the only way to fix the problem is to get that -I../../../src/other/tk/win passed into the build |
| 02:22.16 | rbfish2k | but it takes me some time to complete "configure". |
| 02:22.25 | brlcad | PrezKennedyII: same thing I do every friday night! |
| 02:22.33 | brlcad | try to take over the world! |
| 02:22.48 | brlcad | rbfish2k: I didn't say run configure did I? |
| 02:22.58 | brlcad | I gave you the exact command.... |
| 02:23.08 | rbfish2k | but the make is doing it automatically |
| 02:23.15 | rbfish2k | after i ran "svn up" |
| 02:23.18 | brlcad | bah |
| 02:23.22 | brlcad | then all bets are off :) |
| 02:23.41 | brlcad | not my fault you did that :P |
| 02:23.57 | rbfish2k | it is fine. it will take me about 8 minutes. |
| 02:24.01 | brlcad | ouch |
| 02:24.06 | rbfish2k | my computer is not so fast. |
| 02:24.34 | PrezKennedyII | brlcad, has anyone tried running it on Windows 7 yet? |
| 02:24.47 | brlcad | don't know |
| 02:24.51 | brlcad | not I |
| 02:25.45 | brlcad | rbfish2k: if that doesn't work -- retry configure with --with-cppflags="-I/absolute/path/to/brlcad/src/other/tk/win" |
| 02:26.29 | rbfish2k | make failed even after i ran "export CPPFLAGS="-I../../../src/other/tk/generic -I../../../src/other/tk/win -I../../../src/other/tk/unix"" |
| 02:26.36 | rbfish2k | let me re-configure it |
| 02:26.38 | brlcad | didn't say export :P |
| 02:26.45 | brlcad | that was a one-liner |
| 02:27.11 | brlcad | if that didn't work, you swap CPPFLAGS after 'make' but still one-liner |
| 02:27.38 | brlcad | and it's not just a blind try, you're looking to see it put that -I onto the compile |
| 02:27.46 | brlcad | if you don't see it do that, of course it won't work |
| 02:28.13 | rbfish2k | i understand. |
| 02:28.19 | rbfish2k | it looks better now. |
| 02:28.21 | brlcad | if you have to, you can manually run the build command within src/other/tk/unix/ and add the -I yourself |
| 02:28.31 | brlcad | via copy-paste |
| 02:28.41 | PrezKennedyII | brlcad, that would be a negatory |
| 02:30.40 | rbfish2k | make is complaining "/bin/sh: /home/ken/rbfish2k/brlcad/brlcad/trunk/src/other/tcl/unix/tclsh85.exe: No such file or directory" |
| 02:31.31 | rbfish2k | and |
| 02:31.35 | rbfish2k | jove_main.c:640: error: storage size of 'tty' isn't known |
| 02:31.38 | rbfish2k | jove_main.c:653: error: `TIOCSETN' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 02:47.30 | starseeker | brlcad: true, someone would buy the GM CAD system. Although, given how much $$ the American public (via their elected officials) have sunk into GM, if it does go belly up perhaps the public could enter a collective claim on the CAD part ;-) |
| 02:47.55 | starseeker | after all, that's one asset every US citizen could get a copy of (in theory) :-P |
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| 08:12.48 | mafm | hi there |
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| 14:56.55 | brlcad | yawns |
| 15:08.54 | starseeker | chuckles - the g-dxf succeeded on the tire, but left out the tread |
| 15:11.17 | brlcad | cool |
| 15:11.28 | brlcad | maybe you can get the tread to convert by itsel |
| 15:12.04 | poolio | mornin' all |
| 15:12.46 | starseeker | hmm |
| 15:12.48 | starseeker | tries that |
| 15:14.47 | starseeker | db_walk_subtree() FAIL on '/tread-215-55R17.c/tread_master-215-55R17.c/extrude2-7-215-55R17' |
| 15:29.15 | brlcad | exists? |
| 15:34.57 | starseeker | seems to |
| 15:35.55 | starseeker | all the individual components do, and extrude2-7-215-55R17 shows up in tread_master-215-55R17.c |
| 15:36.28 | starseeker | I can e up both tread_master and tread without trouble in mged |
| 16:02.05 | ``Erik | if I can clone a stairmaster instance, does that mean I dont' have to do the exercise myself? |
| 16:19.39 | starseeker | wow - even without the tread (and with a very course tesselation) the file size of the tesselated .g is 10x that of the the CSG |
| 16:26.19 | ``Erik | that's it? |
| 16:27.18 | ``Erik | I mean, a sphere is what, 4 floats, 16 bytes... a tesselated sphere in any unsuck representation is at LEAST say 20 faces, so a lot more flaots... :D morethan 10x |
| 16:27.38 | ``Erik | and an isocohedron is an awfully crude sphere |
| 16:30.43 | starseeker | oh, this looks pretty sucky |
| 16:30.49 | starseeker | raytraces... |
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| 16:43.22 | starseeker | http://bzflag.bz/~starseeker/tire_tesselation_attempt.png |
| 16:43.54 | starseeker | actually that's only the inner surface, so that size estimate is probably low by ~2x, even leaving out the tread |
| 16:59.45 | bjorkintosh | it's a video game, but i think this looks pretty damned cool! http://pjotr.stacken.kth.se/love/tool_demo_gdc_2009.mp4 |
| 17:12.51 | brlcad | starseeker: note that with g-dxf, it's going to make nmgs .. i.e polygons, not just triangles |
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| 19:40.15 | brlcad | jdoliner: his name is William, but he doesn't go by that -- he goes by Keith |
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| 20:34.07 | elena | hi |
| 20:35.44 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 0389.136.118.141 07http://brlcad.org * r1436 10/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code/2009: /* MoRe.brlcad.org 2 */ |
| 20:44.09 | brlcad | must run out for a bit but .. hello elena, congrats! |
| 20:47.24 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 0389.136.118.141 07http://brlcad.org * r1437 10/wiki/User:EBautu: Initial page |
| 20:50.27 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 0389.136.118.141 07http://brlcad.org * r1438 10/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code/2009: /* MoRe.brlcad.org 2 */ |
| 21:32.45 | ``Erik | *yawn* |
| 21:48.47 | elena | yawns, too |
| 21:49.10 | elena | hi brlcad, sorry I mised you. |
| 21:58.25 | ``Erik | *readreadread* so 'MoRe' has a lot of dependancy on the uploader adding correct information? do you envision .g file construction/deconstruction (say to abstract out common objects)? |
| 21:59.25 | ``Erik | will there be any kind of notion of 'karma' or 'rating' in the system? |
| 21:59.42 | ``Erik | <-- is just thinking noisily and half playing devils advocate, btw |
| 22:06.06 | elena | rating - maybe. |
| 22:06.20 | elena | but i'd tend to do it for models |
| 22:06.29 | elena | not for users |
| 22:06.48 | elena | what do you mean by correct information? |
| 22:08.14 | elena | do you think karma for users would be helpfull? I don't see it as a big feature |
| 22:08.26 | elena | but maybe I'm wrong. |
| 22:09.21 | elena | we could have the user rating as an average of the ratings of the user's models |
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| 22:32.21 | elena | goes to bed. |
| 22:32.23 | elena | bye |
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