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| 00:42.29 | starseeker | can't help thinking something doesn't look right about these bounding boxes... http://bzflag.bz/~starseeker/pipe_bb.png |
| 01:10.50 | starseeker | apparently those are marked "Leaf" |
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| 02:11.18 | starseeker | brlcad: I'm thinking this bounding box is waaaay to large for the purpose of subdividing a spherical nurbs surface: http://bzflag.bz/~starseeker/sphere_bb_edge.png |
| 02:49.25 | starseeker | ponders the criteria of surface flatness and wonders how the normals can satisfy it when the bounding boxes are so large... |
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| 02:56.04 | starseeker | is the plotting messed up? |
| 02:56.05 | starseeker | hmm |
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| 13:28.35 | brlcad | tried to pull him away |
| 13:28.51 | brlcad | starseeker: yeah, I'm not sure I believe that plotting |
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| 13:29.34 | brlcad | the boxes do overlap, and with that much curvature, I'm sure there are a lot of them, but they shouldn't be that many/big |
| 13:29.57 | brlcad | howdy hippieindamakin8 ! |
| 13:30.12 | hippieindamakin8 | hey brlcad |
| 13:30.13 | brlcad | any progress on the bot to nmg conversion? |
| 13:30.31 | brlcad | how're classes? |
| 13:30.34 | hippieindamakin8 | brlcad, not yet actually should be done in a couple of days. |
| 13:30.39 | brlcad | cool |
| 13:31.06 | hippieindamakin8 | brlcad, havent registered for summer school. i took up a summer job |
| 13:31.23 | brlcad | anything technical/interesting? |
| 13:32.46 | hippieindamakin8 | tools to analyse the rail tracks for the indian railways(hardware) + a handheld to analyze the data on and print it out on a line printer |
| 13:33.11 | brlcad | what are they analyzing? |
| 13:33.28 | hippieindamakin8 | analyzing the defects of the tracks |
| 13:33.45 | brlcad | cad models? :) |
| 13:34.02 | hippieindamakin8 | :P vibration analysis. |
| 13:34.33 | hippieindamakin8 | and then probably we ll be using a beagleboard and a screen to develop a handheld |
| 13:35.37 | hippieindamakin8 | apart from that a literature study at the university with a prof on the geometric coresets and their applications |
| 13:35.53 | brlcad | coresets? |
| 13:36.34 | _clock_ | corsets? |
| 13:37.05 | hippieindamakin8 | coresets are this geometric approximations we work on . they are the subsets of the actual sets with an /epsilon error |
| 13:37.16 | brlcad | eh? |
| 13:38.18 | brlcad | you've still not said what that means :) |
| 13:38.33 | brlcad | .. coresets are geometric approximations (of what?) |
| 13:38.35 | hippieindamakin8 | suppose we have a clustering problem, and the point set is very huge, now we develop a coreset which is an approximation of the point set and then using this coreset we obtain we get |
| 13:39.16 | hippieindamakin8 | *we obtain this new point set to work on to reduce the computational costs |
| 13:39.44 | brlcad | ah okay |
| 13:39.47 | hippieindamakin8 | coresets in this case is an approximate point set the geometric approximations of the point sets |
| 13:40.00 | hippieindamakin8 | of the actual point sets. |
| 13:40.56 | hippieindamakin8 | but the end of it all its an approximate solution. :) |
| 13:42.10 | hippieindamakin8 | brlcad, i ll just put the patch in soon. |
| 13:42.35 | brlcad | no rush, was just wondering if you were still working on it or stuck on some problem or busy, etc :) |
| 13:42.39 | brlcad | hadn't seen you in a while |
| 13:43.36 | hippieindamakin8 | yeah :) i did actually get stuck implementing the read |
| 13:43.53 | hippieindamakin8 | but i ll just go through the src code and get back to you. |
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| 14:00.01 | alvaro1 | make > &a ................? |
| 14:05.37 | alvaro1 | please can somebody help me to find the error? http://fpaste.org/paste/12285 |
| 14:07.19 | ``Erik | hm, looks like you told it to build tcl but use the system tk, make "make distclean" and "./configure --enable-all" |
| 14:08.01 | alvaro1 | what is tk8.5 ? |
| 14:08.13 | alvaro1 | ltk8.5 |
| 14:08.29 | ``Erik | the gui toolkit for tcl 8.5, check out http://tcl.tk for more info |
| 14:09.15 | alvaro1 | what goes first?, make distclean or ./configure --enable-all |
| 14:09.32 | ``Erik | "make distclean && ./configure --enable-all && make" |
| 14:12.09 | alvaro1 | configure: error: cannot find install-sh or install.sh in misc ./misc |
| 14:13.13 | brlcad | after distclean, you have to "sh autogen.sh" |
| 14:13.23 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r34550 10/brlcad/trunk/include/opennurbs_ext.h: reorganize trace defines in opennurbs (convenience only) |
| 14:13.47 | alvaro1 | make distclean |
| 14:13.56 | brlcad | then sh autogen.sh |
| 14:13.58 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r34551 10/brlcad/trunk/include/opennurbs_ext.h: whoops - that's TRACE2 |
| 14:14.04 | brlcad | then ./configure --enable-all |
| 14:14.50 | alvaro1 | [root@alvaro-edicta-host brlcad-7.14.6]# make distclean |
| 14:14.50 | alvaro1 | make: *** No rule to make target `distclean'. Stop. |
| 14:15.22 | brlcad | once you run it, you can't run it again |
| 14:15.34 | alvaro1 | nice point |
| 14:15.48 | brlcad | it blows away all makefiles |
| 14:15.56 | brlcad | so you can "start fresh" |
| 14:16.14 | alvaro1 | fresh is my second name! |
| 14:23.06 | brlcad | "alvaro fresh" |
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| 15:09.55 | ``Erik | oh, woops, fergot about having to autoreconf O:-) |
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| 15:31.23 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r34552 10/brlcad/trunk/ (22 files in 6 dirs): Add support for editing hyperboloids to libged and Archer. |
| 17:24.07 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34553 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/CMakeLists.txt: new files scale_eto.c and scale_hyp.c added |
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| 18:56.33 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r34554 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/opennurbs_ext.cpp: |
| 18:56.34 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: Turn off box growing in the NURBS for now - plotting the bounding boxes reveals |
| 18:56.34 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: that the scaling factors are causing the sizes to go waaaay out of line. The |
| 18:56.34 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: visual artifacts being seen appear to be the result of bounding box intersection |
| 18:56.34 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: errors - parent bounding boxes are found, but the children do not intersect |
| 18:56.36 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: properly. Appears to be related to opennurbs_ext.h:243 in some way. Growing |
| 18:56.38 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: the bounding boxes just 'hides' the problem. |
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| 19:30.03 | Defcon- | !seen maloeran |
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| 20:04.51 | brlcad | ~seen maloeran |
| 20:04.52 | ibot | maloeran <n=maloeran@glvortex.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #brlcad, 48d 7h 58m 41s ago, saying: 'Ahah, neat article mafm'. |
| 20:15.22 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34555 10/brlcad/tags/rel-7-14-8/ (db/ misc/pkgconfig/ src/conv/ src/rt/): ignore generated files |
| 20:15.52 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34556 10/brlcad/trunk/db/: ignore goliath.g |
| 20:27.01 | Defcon- | mkay.. |
| 20:27.03 | ``Erik | mal was on efnet yesterday |
| 20:27.06 | Defcon- | tnx brlcad |
| 20:27.09 | Defcon- | efnet ? |
| 20:27.11 | Defcon- | #c ? |
| 20:27.30 | ``Erik | uhm, I saw him in, uh, #siggraph |
| 20:28.06 | ``Erik | he's on now, but idle 21.5 hours |
| 20:29.19 | Defcon- | ty |
| 20:33.36 | starseeker | hm. well, the bound box check seems legit... next do the bounding boxes really enclose what they say they do... |
| 20:38.20 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r34557 10/brlcad/trunk/include/opennurbs_ext.h: Add commented out debugging statements for the NearZero check. |
| 20:45.45 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r34558 10/brlcad/trunk/include/opennurbs_ext.h: Whoops, comment out additional cout debugging. |
| 20:47.46 | Defcon- | ^^ |
| 20:55.36 | Defcon- | cya :) |
| 21:09.14 | starseeker | oh, so that's it - the bounding boxes aren't including all of the volume they need to for a given uv parameter patch |
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| 22:39.48 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r34559 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/brep/brep.cpp: Tweak bounding box plotting for nurbs drawing, disable trimming for now (need to get bounding boxes behaving better first) |
| 22:50.01 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34560 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/mged/help.tcl: add help for e_id even though it's a tclscript, include an example and do better at describing how to use it than e_id presently does via it's usage statement. |
| 22:51.41 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34561 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/mged/e_id.tcl: make e_id use the new help string, just call 'help'. |
| 22:54.21 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34562 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: improved e_id help, usage statement, description, and example. |
| 22:57.06 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34563 10/brlcad/trunk/ (NEWS src/tclscripts/helpcomm.tcl): change the output of help. remove the parentheses, add a Description label, don't tab in. |
| 23:06.57 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34564 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/helplib.tcl: remove the quotes around help strings as they imply the string needs to be quoted (and that doesn't seem to be the case) |
| 23:09.24 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r34565 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/opennurbs_ext.cpp: Force the upper level bounding boxes to be at least as big as the bounding boxes of the leaf boxes they contain. |
| 23:10.28 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r34567 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/brep/brep.cpp: Turn off the debugging drawing for now. |
| 23:10.36 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34566 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/mged/help.tcl: remove the quotes even if it screws up the fontlocking due to the comment chars. |
| 23:32.15 | starseeker | does happy dance and heads outta here |
