| 00:44.58 | CIA-41 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36892 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/bot/bot.c: prevent bombing if you end up working with an empty bot. don't try to alloc 0 vertices/faces. let the user know, though. |
| 01:10.22 | brlcad | docelic: trying to get to testing all day today, hopefully tomorrow |
| 01:11.05 | docelic | Ah nice, I didn't actually know the release time was nearing, I asked accidentaly :) |
| 01:11.29 | brlcad | our usual schedule is the first week of every month |
| 01:11.32 | brlcad | we're a few days late |
| 01:25.10 | CIA-41 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36893 10/brlcad/trunk/TODO: analyze command output formatting needs some TLC. column formatting is screwy and customization would be nice. |
| 01:28.30 | *** join/#brlcad akafubu (n=akafubu@unaffiliated/akafubu) |
| 01:29.03 | brlcad | tests bot prep optimization with dubidity |
| 01:36.20 | CIA-41 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36894 10/brlcad/trunk/TODO: not sure EDITOR will make this iteration given we're no longer down to the wire but late. add note about vls name wrapping before it's forgotten too (for annotations and then some) |
| 01:46.03 | CIA-41 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r36895 10/brlcad/trunk/TODO: honest. |
| 01:46.30 | *** join/#brlcad R0b0t1 (n=Enigma@unaffiliated/r0b0t1) |
| 01:46.46 | brlcad | :) |
| 01:48.27 | ``Erik | "see, motorcyclists do it all the time. But human beings do not" hah |
| 01:48.29 | ``Erik | topgear++ |
| 01:49.36 | brlcad | creates a 2.7M test case |
| 01:49.57 | ``Erik | of? |
| 01:50.28 | brlcad | bot prep mod |
| 01:50.38 | ``Erik | ah |
| 01:50.46 | ``Erik | um, I have a big one |
| 01:50.57 | ``Erik | more than 2.7m... around 7m triangles... |
| 01:51.05 | brlcad | not sure I believe what rt is reporting for PREP |
| 01:51.27 | brlcad | 2.7 should be good, order bigger than what I was testing |
| 01:51.51 | ``Erik | (the facetize_all/allbots script pairing is NOT a good solution for what I need, btw... the failed conversions remain as they were and cause very long fail episodes in my load) |
| 01:51.52 | brlcad | just four sqrts, but might be insignificant |
| 01:52.23 | ``Erik | unfortunately, I wasn't able to get a clean facetization of any nontrivial model in our set... |
| 01:52.35 | ``Erik | m35, toyjeep, tankcar, ... even pinewood fail something :( |
| 01:52.41 | brlcad | yep |
| 01:52.59 | brlcad | I ran through all of db a couple years ago and saw that the majority fail |
| 01:53.13 | ``Erik | kinda renewed my marching cubes effort a little :/ |
| 01:53.16 | brlcad | that'd be a great project, at least make those all succeed! |
| 01:53.40 | ``Erik | oh, even managed straight up crashes in the nmg routines with most of those |
| 01:53.44 | brlcad | I've seen it fail on some pretty simple stuff, has to be bugs |
| 01:53.52 | ``Erik | the, um, roll bar on the toyjeep I think, null pointer |
| 01:53.54 | brlcad | bu_bombs are normal |
| 01:54.07 | brlcad | there's an error handler set, it's how nmg was written to work |
| 01:54.22 | brlcad | exception-style |
| 01:54.27 | ``Erik | heh |
| 01:54.30 | brlcad | yeah |
| 01:54.36 | ``Erik | I have a strong feeling I know the 3 assclowns responsible :/ |
| 01:54.38 | brlcad | teh SUCK |
| 01:55.28 | ``Erik | (should libgcv surrender longjmp as an error handler?) |
| 01:55.37 | brlcad | well fuck .. this optimization didn't do a damn thing. boo. |
| 01:55.59 | brlcad | it has to at that level |
| 01:56.06 | brlcad | otherwise it'll crash |
| 01:56.09 | brlcad | s/crash/abort/ |
| 01:56.25 | brlcad | at least until you mod the nmg code to not throw a bomb |
| 01:56.32 | brlcad | that's what needs to happen |
| 01:56.38 | ``Erik | heh |
| 01:56.44 | brlcad | propagate error up or set error state or whatever |
| 01:56.54 | ``Erik | yeh, return codes are how I'd like to go |
| 01:57.30 | brlcad | I really do think the nmg code could be shored up more solid |
| 01:58.14 | brlcad | it's not had a dev work on it that focuses on robust input checking and condition testing |
| 01:59.12 | brlcad | it's got a good bit of testing, but just not comprehensive |
| 02:00.21 | brlcad | it kind of needs hooks like what indianlarry did for nurbs, effectively yes, no, and "maybe" tolerancing so it knows whether it's really stuck or not |
| 02:01.12 | ``Erik | bugstomp in that would be a shweet task for a code wizard looking to start on BRL-CAD development, I'd imagine |
| 02:01.36 | ``Erik | re-arch might need more experience iwth the tangle |
| 02:02.37 | brlcad | an experienced coder, yeah |
| 02:02.52 | brlcad | doesn't need rearch |
| 02:03.01 | brlcad | at least I don't see things like bomb elim as rearch |
| 02:03.20 | brlcad | it implements radial edge with euler, pretty textbook |
| 02:03.40 | ``Erik | isn't very familiar with the code *shrug* so it viewing a public header change as a possible rearch grade thing :) |
| 02:05.07 | brlcad | moving back into libnmg would probably make that a much more tractable task |
| 02:05.20 | ``Erik | hrm, $1k for a roll cage, $500 for a roll bar |
| 02:06.17 | brlcad | aha! |
| 02:06.27 | ``Erik | ? |
| 02:06.30 | brlcad | there's a damn malloc in the routine I was optimizing that dominates |
| 02:06.34 | ``Erik | heh |
| 02:06.38 | ``Erik | finally used a profiler? :> |
| 02:06.44 | brlcad | shut it |
| 02:06.58 | ``Erik | wonders if we should have mempool stuff in libbu |
| 02:07.10 | ``Erik | mebbe threadpool, too |
| 02:08.33 | ``Erik | sonofabitch, docbook screwed the port update |
| 02:08.46 | ``Erik | http://people.freebsd.org/~amdmi3/brlcad-7.16.2.log :( (worked fine on xeon and core duo) |
| 02:11.47 | brlcad | looks like out-of-srcdir issue |
| 02:11.59 | ``Erik | hm, APACHEFOP not being set, but FOP crap still being built, I think |
| 02:12.32 | brlcad | it's set to ":" |
| 02:12.40 | ``Erik | no, that's in srcdir, it's an invalid call to fop |
| 02:12.55 | brlcad | hrm? |
| 02:12.59 | ``Erik | I'll msg him and ask if he has java installed |
| 02:13.01 | brlcad | it's complaining about that manpage rename |
| 02:13.07 | brlcad | manpages are xsltproc |
| 02:13.10 | brlcad | pdf is fop |
| 02:13.13 | ``Erik | yeh |
| 02:13.45 | ``Erik | 'cept that file it's trying to move it to should exist in src? O.o |
| 02:14.01 | brlcad | it did correctly set XSLTPROC to : .. but probably shouldn't have run through those build rules in doc/docbook regardless |
| 02:14.08 | brlcad | that stuff changed a couple weeks ago |
| 02:14.11 | brlcad | might not be an issue any more |
| 02:14.21 | ``Erik | it's a tinderbox |
| 02:14.22 | ``Erik | hrm |
| 02:14.44 | ``Erik | knows that there were several things he had to patch in the port to make it compile :/ |
| 02:15.01 | brlcad | right, it ran the rule with : so it did nothing.. yet then still wants the file (which is bogus) .. shouldn't have ran the amn rule but the files are probably listed as install files |
| 02:15.18 | brlcad | so the _MAN need to be conditionalized too |
| 02:15.34 | brlcad | always putting the man down |
| 02:15.46 | ``Erik | shoulda used TeX instead of docbook *cough* O:-) |
| 02:15.47 | brlcad | another fix could be to just make xsltproc a dependency |
| 02:16.03 | brlcad | yeah, tex as a dep is better than xsltproc....right |
| 02:16.47 | brlcad | should probably make it a dep anyways so the manpages are built/installed |
| 02:16.50 | ``Erik | latex actually works, xsltproc has a bit of a rep for being flakey from 'the day', and bunches of docbook stuff wants java around |
| 02:16.52 | brlcad | the fix will just make it skip em |
| 02:17.17 | ``Erik | roff, mwahaha |
| 02:17.18 | brlcad | java is just for the pdf stuff (because of fop) |
| 02:17.31 | ``Erik | every xsltproc alternative is written in java, though |
| 02:17.35 | brlcad | xsltproc itself hasn't really caused any headaches |
| 02:17.50 | brlcad | who cares, we're not using the alternatives :) |
| 02:18.34 | brlcad | apply favorite car analogy, that makes no relevant sense :) |
| 02:18.41 | ``Erik | svn co https://brlcad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/brlcad/docs/trunk brlcad-docs |
| 02:18.43 | ``Erik | O:-) |
| 02:19.37 | ``Erik | will dork with crap tomorrie, is in relax mode |
| 02:19.39 | brlcad | that doesn't fix this problem, just punts it to the port for brlcad-docs |
| 02:21.25 | ``Erik | grabs a beer, his guitar and jams out 'daytripper' O.o |
| 02:31.47 | brlcad | OMFG |
| 02:32.14 | brlcad | tri_specific, why dear ghod, oh why .. do you allocate 9 f'ing values on the heap |
| 02:33.16 | brlcad | seriously, even for "optional normals", that's a bit nutty spensive |
| 02:39.00 | starseeker | ``Erik: I'll go over that configure logic on Monday and see if I can't make it more robust as far as disabling things |
| 02:39.21 | starseeker | isn't REALLY trying to make ``Erik miserable... |
| 02:41.32 | brlcad | starseeker: the kicker test is to try without fop and with xsltproc, then without fop and without xsltproc, then with fop and without xsltproc |
| 02:41.54 | starseeker | nods |
| 02:41.59 | brlcad | if you mv the binary to go through the four setups, should week out the problems |
| 02:42.36 | starseeker | I was kinda feeling my way when I did most of that - not that I'm fluent now but I think I stand a somewhat better chance of getting things right now |
| 02:44.56 | starseeker | will try that |
| 02:53.15 | ``Erik | :D |
| 02:54.08 | ``Erik | tunes that func to allocate one value 9 times for brlcad |
| 02:54.50 | ``Erik | <-- installing a base system on a thumbdrive for his arm machine to see if usb boot is reasonably doable |
| 02:57.09 | brlcad | interesting doc info on the list starseeker |
| 02:57.51 | brlcad | worth a quick peek but the copy and translate would probably still be my naive pick |
| 02:58.23 | brlcad | i presume gabriel isn't here incognito? |
| 02:58.29 | brlcad | ~seen gabriel |
| 02:58.32 | ibot | gabriel <n=gabriel@d24-141-18-191.home.cgocable.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #storm, 18d 18h 13m 6s ago, saying: 'the info i added is in the property constructor parameters section'. |
| 02:58.35 | ``Erik | ponders saying "gettextize" and running like hell |
| 02:59.03 | brlcad | yeah, each paragraph becomes a gettext phrase |
| 02:59.20 | brlcad | tens of thousands of gettext lines... |
| 02:59.21 | ``Erik | every C string |
| 02:59.35 | ``Erik | many needing to be redone some |
| 02:59.42 | brlcad | taking 100x longer to compile all the docs than it takes the sources! |
| 02:59.51 | ``Erik | well |
| 02:59.56 | brlcad | ah yeah, the C strings would be cool |
| 02:59.57 | ``Erik | I was thinking the sources, not the docs... |
| 03:00.08 | brlcad | yeah, I was (jokingly) talking about the docs |
| 03:00.21 | ``Erik | how would the tcl strings interface? |
| 03:02.01 | brlcad | tcl has it's own l10n and i18n features |
| 03:02.17 | brlcad | particularly, message catalogs for translations iirc |
| 03:02.47 | ``Erik | 3 months to make all the source work it, then 2 months for each translation *shudder* |
| 03:03.42 | ``Erik | 1979: <dude1> dude, what if someone wants this in a language other than english? <dude2> uh... whu? BWAHAHAHAHA |
| 03:03.45 | ``Erik | O:-) |
| 03:04.39 | brlcad | basically feed it inputs files like gettext, then after you load a locale: replace 'puts "hello"' with 'puts [::msgcat::mc "hello"]' |
| 03:04.40 | ``Erik | even in a toy app, gettext is a royal pain |
| 03:04.41 | brlcad | tcl doesn't use gettext, they do their own thing |
| 03:04.56 | brlcad | all build in that msgcat package |
| 03:05.15 | brlcad | tcl would probably be easier than the C side actually |
| 03:05.59 | ``Erik | one of my kittens is attempting to climb up my pants leg O.o if it weren't for the pointy bits, it'd be cut (until the knee, then it'd be weird) |
| 03:06.02 | ``Erik | cute |
| 03:07.07 | brlcad | until it's a little higher still, then no longer cute or weird |
| 03:07.43 | ``Erik | nah, at the knee. O:-) |
| 03:09.07 | ``Erik | makes a bot, g2asc's it, then gdb breaks the asc2g to figure out the effin' call path |
| 03:09.09 | starseeker | brlcad: yeah, saw that email - I'm thinking copy and translate too |
| 03:09.44 | brlcad | should respond to him on the downsides of the other options |
| 03:10.16 | ``Erik | well, eff, I broke things |
| 03:10.21 | starseeker | brlcad: probably, but they all boil down (to me) of "not enough of an issue yet to justify more machinery " |
| 03:10.46 | starseeker | we're still shaking down the stuipd-simple method, nevermind adding more tools into the mix |
| 03:10.57 | starseeker | flips up the email again |
| 03:14.29 | brlcad | that's a fair response :) |
| 03:14.58 | brlcad | unless he wants to help work on something more robuse ;) |
| 03:15.33 | starseeker | I'm also a bit dubious as to why poxml is easier for translaters than straight up xml... |
| 03:15.54 | starseeker | Nohla seems to have done just fine working within the existing xml tags :-) |
| 03:17.06 | brlcad | yep |
| 03:17.16 | brlcad | i think his argument was more about maintenance |
| 03:17.34 | brlcad | say we need to update/fix the english tutorial .. what to do about 20 translations |
| 03:17.49 | brlcad | becomes rather free-for-all |
| 03:18.09 | starseeker | true, but the translations still have to happen regardless of what the surrounding markup is |
| 03:19.13 | brlcad | right, but I gathered the other tools implicitly involve some sort of awareness of the other languages, so the differences are more evident |
| 03:19.20 | starseeker | wonders why a script checking svn status on changes since last release tag for english doc files couldn't be used to flag the other language versions as "need work" |
| 03:19.40 | brlcad | that's basically his second option, no? :) |
| 03:19.51 | brlcad | the CON isn't a biggie |
| 03:20.21 | starseeker | yes, except we don't introduce any markup - just a "tell me which english xml files changed over this interval" report |
| 03:22.09 | starseeker | only think I can see MAYBE getting fancy with is something that adds a warning to the translated output that it's out of date if there is a change to the english version and no corresponding change to the translated file |
| 03:29.58 | CIA-41 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36896 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/bot/g_bot_include.c: |
| 03:29.58 | CIA-41 | BRL-CAD: well, screw me. no savings on eliminating four sqrt() calls due to an egregious |
| 03:29.58 | CIA-41 | BRL-CAD: number of malloc calls (two per bot face) to allocate a tri_specific and space |
| 03:29.58 | CIA-41 | BRL-CAD: for normals. holy flying bat crap. tri_specific's interface needs to be |
| 03:29.59 | CIA-41 | BRL-CAD: improved. made prep use the caller's tolerance instead of magic numbers. |
| 03:31.24 | brlcad | I could see there be some value to doing something like gettext style substitutions as a prep step so some translated phrases are consistently managed |
| 03:31.45 | brlcad | like "Shift Grips" |
| 03:32.00 | brlcad | instead of the variety of ways that could get translated in one file alone |
| 03:32.12 | starseeker | yeah, it has some merits |
| 03:32.23 | starseeker | is reading up on xliff... |
| 03:33.12 | starseeker | arrrgh - what is it with xml folks and java... |
| 03:33.17 | ``Erik | tries to figure out a good VCS for a windows using non-programmer :/ |
| 03:33.34 | ``Erik | xml is for java, java does xml... no SANE person would use xml... :D |
| 03:34.07 | ``Erik | ponder; <alpha><beta gamma=0></beta></alpha> |
| 03:34.08 | ``Erik | really? |
| 03:34.15 | ``Erik | (alpha (beta (gamma 0)) |
| 03:34.16 | ``Erik | ) |
| 03:34.38 | ``Erik | '(alpha (beta (gamma 0))) and ya don't even need to write code to deal O:-) |
| 03:37.21 | ``Erik | notes that the network protocol for isst has been mostly ascii-ized and seems to be immediately readable scheme/lisp *cough* O:-) |
| 03:38.21 | brlcad | runs some quick calculations |
| 03:39.34 | ``Erik | we should get a decently ugly bot only model so I can do an rt vs libtie comparison and see if it's worth pursuing. |
| 03:40.21 | brlcad | heh, nice |
| 03:40.38 | ``Erik | ? how much did you beef up bot? |
| 03:40.39 | brlcad | we presently have 204k lines of documentation in svn |
| 03:40.44 | ``Erik | ah |
| 03:41.31 | brlcad | I have a couple bot-only models |
| 03:41.57 | brlcad | run anything through g-stl and you can too! |
| 03:42.17 | ``Erik | heh |
| 03:42.26 | brlcad | 1.2M words of docs (includes m4 markup and xml tags) |
| 03:42.28 | ``Erik | provided g-stl happens to work *cough* |
| 03:44.10 | ``Erik | more interested in a 'worst case' difference type set |
| 03:44.17 | ``Erik | correctness #'s |
| 03:44.43 | brlcad | that's roughly 4000 to 6000 *pages* of documentation |
| 03:44.55 | brlcad | wow |
| 03:46.04 | brlcad | assuming markup is substantial, which I can't imagine being even 50%, that's still 2000-3000 pages |
| 03:46.35 | brlcad | Nohla: you got about 4 pages done, right? :) |
| 03:47.49 | CIA-41 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36897 10/brlcad/trunk/TODO: tri_specific suck. make better. |
| 03:48.06 | Nohla | on pdf are 9,1 pages |
| 03:49.00 | Nohla | counting images |
| 03:49.03 | brlcad | :) |
| 03:49.14 | brlcad | so yeah, about 4 pages of text :) |
| 03:50.26 | Nohla | 5, but 5 is about 4 pages too :) |
| 03:51.46 | brlcad | therein lies the importance of working on the documentation subsystem.. it's not that we don't have documentation, we have lots of documentation but it's inconsistently managed, inaccessible to new users, not readily searchable, not online, and not organized/categorized |
| 03:52.00 | brlcad | just to name a few faults :) |
| 03:52.19 | brlcad | damn I didn't realize there was that much documentation checked in |
| 03:52.30 | brlcad | mm.. lemme eliminate the old mail and recount |
| 03:54.26 | Nohla | program has no a searching tool for helping? |
| 03:54.28 | brlcad | drops about 500-700 off the count |
| 03:54.49 | brlcad | Nohla: not entirely true, there are some search facilities |
| 03:54.53 | Nohla | brlcad sorry, I've never display it yet :( |
| 03:54.55 | brlcad | they're just not "great", they're okay |
| 03:55.29 | brlcad | there's the built-in search facilities of 'man' and apropos for the manual pages |
| 03:55.58 | brlcad | there is pdf and html searching capabilities for the web content, but they're not presently synchronized with the website |
| 03:56.10 | brlcad | (but should be soon) |
| 04:01.53 | brlcad | starseeker, make clean fails in doc/docbook :) |
| 04:01.56 | brlcad | tee hee |
| 04:03.33 | Nohla | starseeker reminds me to "The little prince" :) |
| 04:04.31 | Nohla | oh how Scandinavian of you XD |
| 04:11.20 | Nohla | good night people, as you see, I need a snap at least :) |
| 04:11.51 | starseeker | brlcad: auuugh |
| 04:12.14 | starseeker | Nohla: night - when you have time I need to explain how to build spanish docs |
| 04:12.15 | brlcad | Nohla: haha, kinda acts like him sometimes too |
| 04:12.35 | starseeker | probably doesn't want to know... |
| 04:12.46 | brlcad | you've not read the little prince? |
| 04:12.54 | starseeker | shakes head |
| 04:12.56 | brlcad | great book |
| 04:12.56 | starseeker | nope |
| 04:13.07 | brlcad | Nohla: buenas noches! |
| 04:13.23 | brlcad | it's a kids book for adults |
| 04:13.36 | starseeker | checks with the all-knowing google... |
| 04:13.45 | ``Erik | heh |
| 04:13.53 | ``Erik | brlcad won't quit jabbering about it |
| 04:14.06 | brlcad | what you talking about? |
| 04:14.13 | brlcad | haven't said anything about that in years |
| 04:14.15 | ``Erik | frankly, I'd rather grab a copy of 'the prince' than 'the little prince' |
| 04:14.22 | ``Erik | yeah, you jabbered about it just a few years ago! |
| 04:14.26 | ``Erik | constant, I tell ya! |
| 04:14.34 | brlcad | heh |
| 04:14.38 | ``Erik | you were talking loads about it to rain I think |
| 04:14.42 | ``Erik | saying it needs to be read in spanish |
| 04:15.06 | Nohla | starseeker you couldn't be so sweet as little prince!, I hope you not to use that nick for a technical reason as a telescope, Isn't it? |
| 04:16.48 | ``Erik | nohla: starseeker delved deep into the land of car and cdr, begun to see the fundamental fabric of the universe, but couldn't become one... so he started seeking to become once with the essense O:-) |
| 04:17.14 | brlcad | you even lost me on that one |
| 04:17.35 | ``Erik | http://xkcd.com/224/ |
| 04:17.54 | ``Erik | (he commits a .pl tomorrow...) |
| 04:17.57 | starseeker | you know, I think I may have read that when I was very very young... |
| 04:18.58 | Nohla | starseeker, before to learn reading? XD |
| 04:19.08 | starseeker | probably |
| 04:19.25 | starseeker | the picture of the kid on a small rock rings some kind of bell |
| 04:20.07 | starseeker | Nohla: want to build your html and pdf documentation using BRL-CAD's make system instead of the long commands? |
| 04:21.48 | Nohla | starseeker I'm too tired to do it succesfully right now, but I'll be glad you help me tomorrow, maybe |
| 04:22.06 | starseeker | Nohla: sounds good :-) Hopefully it will make things easier for you |
| 04:22.09 | ``Erik | is this next release going to be an internal distribution? |
| 04:22.31 | Nohla | anyway, good is to learn differents way to the same place :) |
| 04:22.33 | starseeker | ``Erik: I don't think so |
| 04:22.38 | ``Erik | fekc |
| 04:23.06 | starseeker | Nohla: you have seen the "by hand" way - make will do that for you automatically, but you will understand what it is doing |
| 04:23.13 | starseeker | which is a good thing :-) |
| 04:24.24 | brlcad | starseeker: where are the Vol II apendices in the repo? |
| 04:24.38 | starseeker | they aren't |
| 04:24.46 | starseeker | that's what janine was turning into individual docbook files |
| 04:24.50 | starseeker | for man pages |
| 04:25.08 | brlcad | ``Erik: more time to fix shelling :) |
| 04:25.14 | brlcad | ah, k |
| 04:25.37 | ``Erik | shelling is a lesser concern for me atm |
| 04:26.33 | ``Erik | huzzah, 7.16.2 got the local herpes treatment, I can pass out gtk binaries |
| 04:27.26 | starseeker | doesn't understand that but feels vaguely insulted |
| 04:27.42 | starseeker | ``Erik: awesome xkcd cartoon :-) |
| 04:29.08 | Nohla | :) |
| 04:29.38 | ``Erik | starseeker: 14 months of "yeah, we're past deadline, but next release, honest!", flak left and right, september or so it went from being fixing stuff to waiting for distributino... |
| 04:29.54 | starseeker | ah |
| 04:29.57 | ``Erik | so on monday, I can FINALLY redeem myself |
| 04:30.00 | starseeker | heeh |
| 04:30.26 | ``Erik | this is the shit, uh, |
| 04:32.25 | ``Erik | needs to learn to not blink *sigh* |
| 04:32.40 | ``Erik | or mebbe figure out how to get on the mailing list for distro |
| 04:38.24 | brlcad | sends out the summary stats to the list |
| 04:39.17 | ``Erik | bwahahahaha, a little fast running and the cats wig out :D |
| 04:42.26 | starseeker | is dissapointed - xkcd has no poster version of the lotr chart |
| 04:44.34 | ``Erik | I thought they had an svg |
| 04:44.41 | ``Erik | email him |
| 04:48.22 | CIA-41 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r36898 10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/load.c: quell silly warnings. |
| 04:48.30 | CIA-41 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r36899 10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/adrt_struct.h: fake a size |
| 04:48.53 | CIA-41 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r36900 10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/librender/render_internal.h: prepare to make this an assoc! |
| 04:52.28 | starseeker | lol: https://graphics.stanford.edu/wikis/cs448b-09-fall/FP-OgievetskyVadim |
| 04:52.55 | starseeker | doesn't have the orc dwindling ability, but that's still awesome... |
| 04:54.31 | starseeker | yeah, more I look he's got only a couple of the dimensions |
| 04:54.58 | starseeker | still, a class project based off of an xkcd cartoon... |
| 04:55.25 | brlcad | that's fantastic |
| 04:55.33 | brlcad | sends his summary to the mailing list |
| 04:55.42 | brlcad | iiiinteresting stats on the docs |
| 04:55.48 | brlcad | puts things into perspective even more |
| 04:56.14 | starseeker | waits for gmail to get the word... |
| 04:57.52 | brlcad | so need to get that organized.. so much effort underutilized, and that's not even counting the papers, reports, symposium papers, posters, diagrams, cards, and presentations that aren't even checked in |
| 04:59.27 | brlcad | gotta get round-trip web editing with the docbook backend working so we can make it all searchable, organized, and accessible |
| 05:01.48 | brlcad | thinks erik should make adrt compile strict |
| 05:02.09 | ``Erik | heh, tried |
| 05:02.12 | ``Erik | varargs macros |
| 05:02.20 | ``Erik | the tie0 vs tie1 hack |
| 05:04.30 | ``Erik | outside of that, it's actually fiarly close |
| 05:05.15 | ``Erik | <-- sets -W -Wall -Werror -ansi -pedantic on his personal projects up front, has a lint line he typically uses as well, creeped into a couple bits of BRL-CAD |
| 05:05.58 | ``Erik | adrt, even :D |
| 05:07.07 | brlcad | found out that -ansi and -std=c99 actually conflict in some instances, that can't really quell both without testing compliance version |
| 05:07.22 | starseeker | oh, that's fun |
| 05:09.25 | ``Erik | src/adrt/Makefile.am line 119.. learn the hurt. |
| 05:12.48 | ``Erik | looks like I got that certain hair up my ass in november of 2000 |
| 05:13.17 | ``Erik | (what were YOU doing in nov 07, 2000?) |
| 05:16.36 | brlcad | I could probably figure that out |
| 05:17.29 | ``Erik | it's trivial, but carried |
| 05:18.38 | ``Erik | part of my religion over 9 yrs ago :( |
| 05:19.23 | ``Erik | based off of annotate... iirc, it was called clint before splint |
| 05:22.28 | brlcad | lint used to give so many false positives |
| 05:22.41 | brlcad | gcc at least performs most of the lintisms (and then some) now |
| 05:22.45 | ``Erik | used to? it doesn't anymore? |
| 05:22.49 | brlcad | heh |
| 05:23.07 | brlcad | i'm looking forward to seeing our coverity report |
| 05:23.32 | ``Erik | be interesting.. I used lint heavily and expected many false hits... but did it anyways |
| 05:23.44 | brlcad | especially now that several core dirs are "clean" .. should make the reports be minimized to actual bugs and not just quellage making things explicit |
| 05:23.44 | ``Erik | don't think I ever made a single project fully lint clean |
| 05:24.06 | ``Erik | but it opened my eyes to a lot of possibilities |
| 05:24.12 | ``Erik | made me think before saying aye or nay |
| 05:24.15 | brlcad | I almost made hello world clean once |
| 05:24.32 | brlcad | hits the road |
| 05:24.48 | ``Erik | the value is in making you think, imho |
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| 15:43.52 | ``Erik | oohhhh, todays cyanide and happiness is harsh http://www.explosm.net//comics |
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| 19:22.56 | superlinux | hello guys |
| 19:25.37 | superlinux | starseeker, i started reading the sketch script. the code is not really well commented. and the lines of code count is over the 2200 lines. so it's huge! |
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