| 00:07.51 | starseeker | is agast at the full size of tkimg... |
| 00:10.08 | starseeker | aaaand, that's moderately worse |
| 00:10.13 | starseeker | alrightie then |
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| 01:05.32 | starseeker | hey Nohla :-) |
| 01:05.42 | Nohla | starseeker hi |
| 01:06.25 | Nohla | I was working with eyes closed today :P |
| 01:08.24 | starseeker | heh |
| 01:08.39 | starseeker | did your build succeed? |
| 01:12.14 | Nohla | I think so |
| 01:12.18 | Nohla | brlcad helped me |
| 01:12.25 | starseeker | excellent |
| 01:12.35 | starseeker | you saw how it built the spanish html and pdf? |
| 01:15.17 | Nohla | starseeker are you always so active at this hour of the night? :) |
| 01:16.16 | Nohla | (I'm cooking at the same time I aswer you) |
| 01:17.40 | starseeker | usually |
| 01:19.27 | starseeker | I will need to leave for a while, so if you have questions now is the time |
| 01:20.22 | Nohla | :) It's ok for today |
| 01:20.30 | Nohla | I'm hungry :) |
| 01:20.43 | starseeker | ok :) |
| 01:20.45 | Nohla | but thanks |
| 02:39.28 | brlcad | yawns |
| 02:44.17 | Nohla | brlcad hi |
| 02:45.09 | brlcad | hola Nohla |
| 02:48.36 | Nohla | recordando el español de nuevo? :) |
| 03:14.33 | brlcad | solo regresa con uso |
| 03:15.58 | starseeker | brlcad: I wonder how Bob would react if I yank out the dll/so loader function and do traditional package require in Archer :-) |
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| 04:28.59 | brlcad | starseeker: if it works, doesn't matter |
| 04:29.11 | brlcad | not sure they're proper packages |
| 04:29.40 | brlcad | don't recall there being a pkgIndex.tcl for tkimg, could be wrong |
| 04:38.02 | brlcad | yeah, don't see one -- would have to probably create an init func and the index file at a minimum; basic packaging |
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| 06:17.52 | starseeker | brlcad: not sure how it would work on Windows |
| 06:18.20 | starseeker | or rather, if our Windows build can do the subconfigure stuff correctly |
| 06:19.27 | starseeker | tkhtml3 seems to be the first real attempt to do a "proper" install of a package require library to the in-tree tcl/tk - since that's not working on Windows yet it's kinda unexplored turf |
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| 06:45.53 | talcite | have any of you guys gotten a chance to take a look at the fedora bugzilla? I've run into snags with tkhtml3 and tkImg integration (one bundles licenses, the other static libs) . Is there any chance that we can get around it from this end? |
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| 13:51.44 | starseeker | blinks - static libs in tkhtml3? |
| 13:51.55 | starseeker | is he talking about how it builds itself? |
| 14:00.12 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03Pt6wub5boj19mxd 07http://brlcad.org * r2052 10/wiki/User:Pt6wub5boj19mxd: New page: Say good-by " she said. He frowned slightly. "All right " he said. She made another speech. "I'm not sorry we kissed " she said. "That was sweet. We should have kissed. [http://cialis-... |
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| 15:57.00 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36922 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/cline/cline.c: quell all verbose extra compilation warnings, mostly about unused params. add data validation on those params or mark as unused where appropriate. |
| 15:58.44 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36923 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/ (metaball/metaball.c superell/superell.c table.c): remove the stubbed in tnurb functions, as they're all about to go away. these can go away even sooner, though, given the unused parameter warnings they cause. |
| 16:00.32 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03Sean 07http://brlcad.org * r0 10/wiki/Special:Log/delete: |
| 16:00.32 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: deleted "[[User:Pt6wub5boj19mxd]]": content was: 'Say good-by " she said. He |
| 16:00.32 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: frowned slightly. "All right " he said. She made another speech. "I'm not |
| 16:00.32 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: sorry we kissed " she said. "That was sweet. ...' (and the only contributor was |
| 16:00.32 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: '[[Special:Contributions/Pt6wub5boj19mxd|Pt6wub5boj19mxd]]') |
| 16:00.44 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03Sean 07http://brlcad.org * r0 10/wiki/Special:Log/block: blocked [[User:Pt6wub5boj19mxd]] with an expiry time of infinite (account creation disabled, e-mail blocked): Spamming links to external sites |
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| 16:01.31 | ``Erik | uhm |
| 16:05.55 | ``Erik | odd |
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| 16:38.41 | talcite | huh. Got a reply from Toshio at the fedora project. |
| 16:40.16 | talcite | Essentially I need to fix both tkImg and tkHTML before we can get inclusion. So either I rewrite them to use dynamic libs or we remove the dependencies from brlcad |
| 16:43.53 | starseeker | removing them is a problem |
| 16:44.05 | starseeker | what's the trouble with tkhtml3? |
| 16:44.19 | starseeker | hadn't noticed we were building it static... |
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| 16:59.56 | talcite | starseeker: oops. sorry, didn't see the message. Yes, tkhtml3 includes static libs afaik |
| 17:00.10 | talcite | atleast, their website claims to... |
| 17:01.12 | starseeker | talcite: check src/other/tkhtml3 |
| 17:01.35 | starseeker | they have a static binary of hv3... |
| 17:01.45 | starseeker | I didn't see any separate build of tkhtml3 at all |
| 17:02.44 | talcite | hmm. I'll need to look into it more. Maybe they just meant it doesn't have external dependencies |
| 17:04.07 | starseeker | talcite: were are you getting the tkhtml3 you intend to add to fedora? |
| 17:04.16 | talcite | starseeker: off the website |
| 17:04.23 | talcite | brlcad said that there weren't any source changes to it |
| 17:04.48 | starseeker | ok, but you're doing JUST tkhtml3 and not hv3 right? |
| 17:04.53 | starseeker | hv3 is more than just tkhtml3 |
| 17:04.58 | talcite | so I was just planning on using native sources instead of abstracting it out of our program |
| 17:04.59 | talcite | yes |
| 17:05.17 | starseeker | ok... we might have a few build system changes in our tree, I'm not sure |
| 17:05.40 | talcite | we can do a diff on them. shouldn't be too tough |
| 17:05.43 | starseeker | so when you build tkhtml3, you're getting static results? |
| 17:06.26 | starseeker | 'cause here I get libTkhtml3.0.dylib (Mac) |
| 17:06.29 | talcite | starseeker: no, the website says it's static. I haven't built and checked for it yet |
| 17:06.56 | starseeker | talcite: ok, build it and check :-) |
| 17:06.57 | talcite | starseeker: I don't mean that tkhtml3 is static itself, it contains static libs within it |
| 17:07.15 | starseeker | I don't know that tkhtml3 contains any libs, just it's own code |
| 17:07.21 | starseeker | tkimg is a different matter |
| 17:09.10 | talcite | hmm. Well the website could be out of date or inaccurate. Maybe it was talking about hv3 |
| 17:09.54 | talcite | I'm sure that tkimg contains libs within it though. The release notes have a detailed section about them |
| 17:11.03 | starseeker | yes |
| 17:11.04 | talcite | tkimg is the crucial package isnt' it? |
| 17:11.04 | starseeker | I'd bet hv3 is what they're talking about on the website |
| 17:11.05 | talcite | I thought tkhtml could be removed in the past |
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| 17:18.39 | starseeker | talcite: it can be, but you lose html display of man pages in MGED |
| 17:18.52 | talcite | I see |
| 17:19.05 | starseeker | talcite: as for tkimg, I'm working on switching us to tkpng |
| 17:19.30 | talcite | well tkhtml looks like it doesn't have any static libs right now |
| 17:19.40 | talcite | I need to inspect the makefile, but it looks pretty clean |
| 17:19.44 | starseeker | we only use a tiny subset of tkimg, so we'll go the smaller, cleaner route (tk 8.6 should actually incorporate tkpng's abilities into the core, so it will go away altogether) |
| 17:19.57 | talcite | ahh I see |
| 17:20.24 | starseeker | if you look at our src/other/tkimg it's actually a small subset of the full tkimg |
| 17:21.57 | talcite | tkpng looks pretty cool |
| 17:22.02 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r36924 10/brlcad/trunk/src/archer/archer: If we're doing aqua rendering, go aqua rather than clam for the theme. |
| 17:22.34 | talcite | starseeker: any idea on when tkpng will be integrated? |
| 17:23.28 | brlcad | talcite: tkhtml3 doesn't include any 3rd party libs nor does it have any external dependencies except tcl and tk |
| 17:23.45 | starseeker | talcite: should be before the January src release - I've got a test build working but I need to get it to function with a local libz |
| 17:23.48 | brlcad | not sure what gave you that impression, the sources are pretty simple .. |
| 17:23.58 | talcite | brlcad: I see. crazy website =/ |
| 17:24.07 | talcite | yeah. I just looked through the sources |
| 17:24.33 | brlcad | we didn't make any source changes, but there were a few (minor) build system tweaks for portability |
| 17:24.48 | starseeker | brlcad: they talk up hv3 (their big mega-browser-thingy) and have big static builds of that as the main download on the project website (sucks) |
| 17:25.05 | starseeker | they really need to split that sucker into multiple downloads |
| 17:25.14 | brlcad | and so it'd integrate cleanly with the default automake build rules (e.g., fixing distcheck, distclean, etc) |
| 17:26.21 | talcite | starseeker: alright. I'll hold off on rebuilding the package till after the january release. tkhtml, Utah, and TNT should keep me busy in the meanwhile |
| 17:27.30 | brlcad | what was the issue with tkimg? |
| 17:28.25 | brlcad | our inclusion of tkimg is pretty minimal with no bundled libs, don't recall if we modified it to be that way or if it was originally that way |
| 17:29.00 | starseeker | brlcad: he would have to make an external tkimg rpm for Fedora |
| 17:29.29 | starseeker | that would either involve doing tkimg "right" using the main repository, or forking our little subset and making an rpm of IT (which I doubt they would accept) |
| 17:29.59 | brlcad | he would have to make an external tkpng rpm for Fedora too.. just want to make sure it's not a wash :) |
| 17:30.14 | brlcad | is ours a subset? |
| 17:30.30 | starseeker | That would be easier - I gather tkimg stomps all over the Fedora guidelines for included libs |
| 17:30.31 | brlcad | i vaguely recall tkimg having separate libs for each format |
| 17:30.58 | brlcad | again, ours has no included libs |
| 17:31.04 | brlcad | did we do that or is that how it came? |
| 17:31.13 | starseeker | dunno |
| 17:31.30 | starseeker | all I can say is when I checked out the tkimg repository it looked almost nothign like ours |
| 17:31.33 | brlcad | or is it a simple matter like our src/other in that they bundle and it's just there for release control and download convenience for stand-alone compiles |
| 17:32.08 | brlcad | having the sources shouldn't be a problem, it's whether it uses them during compile or not, and that can be controlled by the rpm |
| 17:32.32 | brlcad | it looks like we gutted their build system |
| 17:33.03 | starseeker | nods - if they allow external libs during build it could work - I just don't know if they do - when I ran the default configure here it looked like it walked into all the lib directories (took a while) |
| 17:34.04 | brlcad | yeah, I don't think an rpm would be that hard at all, the deps shouldn't be a problem |
| 17:34.34 | brlcad | tkpng could be even simpler still, but I don't see tkimg as a problem if we have to in the meantime |
| 17:35.32 | starseeker | talcite: um... - is this of interest? http://www.rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/fedora/devel/x86_64/tkimg-1.4-0.6.20091129svn.fc13.x86_64.html |
| 17:36.11 | brlcad | whether they do or don't "allow" external libs is a really *trivial build matter that wouldn't be hard to change, not an reason to discount it by itself |
| 17:36.11 | talcite | starseeker: : what the heck? That definitely wasn't there before.... |
| 17:36.19 | brlcad | haha |
| 17:36.21 | talcite | well 1129.. I guess it saves some work =) |
| 17:37.10 | starseeker | first rule of solving a problem in open source - make sure someone else hasn't solved it already ;-P |
| 17:37.32 | starseeker | http://www.rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=tkimg |
| 17:37.32 | brlcad | http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=tkimg&submit=Search |
| 17:37.44 | starseeker | hehe |
| 17:37.44 | brlcad | looks like since fed 9 |
| 17:37.47 | talcite | yeah. I checked both in the existing packages and also in the packages being developed |
| 17:38.06 | talcite | really? that's strange. |
| 17:38.21 | talcite | ... it's there |
| 17:38.21 | brlcad | http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=tkhtml |
| 17:38.28 | talcite | arghhh |
| 17:38.44 | brlcad | ahh, that's not tkhtml3 |
| 17:38.50 | starseeker | will still be switching to tkpng, but it DEFINITELY looks like the rpm need not wait on that |
| 17:39.25 | brlcad | http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=tkhtml3 <-- heh, but that is |
| 17:39.28 | starseeker | Yeah, looks like only Mandriva has tkhtml3 |
| 17:39.46 | talcite | brlcad: yeah, but tkimg was also one of the ones that I had us statically compile because I thought it wasn't in fedora |
| 17:39.46 | brlcad | interesting that "tkhtml" doesn't match the "tkhtml3" search |
| 17:39.49 | talcite | I have no idea how I missed that |
| 17:40.12 | brlcad | looks like your job is done! |
| 17:40.17 | talcite | err not statically compile, but have us compile from within the project |
| 17:40.22 | talcite | yeah =S |
| 17:40.26 | starseeker | checks Utah and TNT... |
| 17:40.41 | talcite | hmm tkpng is already in fedora. convenient |
| 17:40.54 | brlcad | TNT doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me as an RPM .. it's just a set of headers |
| 17:41.08 | talcite | no, utah and tnt aren't there. I just checked again |
| 17:41.10 | brlcad | nothing to compile |
| 17:41.23 | talcite | hmm. that's true |
| 17:41.26 | brlcad | no resulting "library" |
| 17:41.38 | talcite | I was actually thinking about that the other day. It could possibly only exist as a dev package? |
| 17:41.50 | brlcad | are there separate -dev packages? |
| 17:41.55 | talcite | yes |
| 17:42.01 | talcite | devel to be more precise |
| 17:42.02 | brlcad | ah, then yeah .. that's all it'd be |
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| 17:42.25 | talcite | I'm actually curious about how they managed to build tkImg in fedora |
| 17:42.41 | starseeker | talcite: if I were you I'd not dig in too deep |
| 17:42.44 | brlcad | with the install amounting to something like "for i in *.h ; do cp $i $INSTROOOOT ; done" |
| 17:42.57 | talcite | starseeker: haha shooting myself in the foot? =) |
| 17:42.58 | starseeker | if the notice it's doing something "against policy" you might get elected to fix it :-P |
| 17:43.34 | brlcad | http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=RLE&submit=Search+...&system=&arch= |
| 17:44.08 | talcite | wait. They're using tkimg v1.4 |
| 17:44.10 | talcite | is that even out? |
| 17:44.31 | starseeker | talcite: it shouldn't matter |
| 17:44.44 | starseeker | we don't exactly strain tkimg... |
| 17:44.50 | talcite | well, the thing is that they may have changed the lib inclusion format |
| 17:44.59 | talcite | between 1.3 and 1.4 I mean |
| 17:45.16 | talcite | I just checked, the website has 1.3 . What's going on? |
| 17:45.35 | starseeker | they're tracking subversion (or cvs) |
| 17:45.52 | talcite | they should put that in the version info if they were |
| 17:46.06 | talcite | oh wait, they put it in the release stuff. ok |
| 17:46.37 | brlcad | notes that we're probably the maintainers of URT at this point |
| 17:46.50 | talcite | really? I thought you guys didn't change it |
| 17:47.05 | starseeker | he means the original team isn't actively working on it anymore |
| 17:47.37 | starseeker | hadn't looked at utah rle much... |
| 17:47.40 | starseeker | googles... |
| 17:47.42 | brlcad | URT was part of the "Alpha 1" project, which BRL funded back in the day |
| 17:48.18 | brlcad | Alpha 1 was a larger umbrella project aim at (*drumroll*) developing a NURBS ray tracing capability |
| 17:49.27 | starseeker | winces |
| 17:49.53 | starseeker | I don't even see where to download it... |
| 17:50.02 | brlcad | they got it working, one of the first |
| 17:50.14 | brlcad | but the project was a bit of a fiasco, though |
| 17:50.25 | brlcad | got mired in legal problems |
| 17:50.31 | starseeker | yuck |
| 17:50.43 | talcite | =/ |
| 17:50.44 | starseeker | leave it to the lawyers... |
| 17:52.05 | talcite | Utah is clean though right? |
| 17:52.12 | starseeker | ah, yes... http://www.cs.utah.edu/gdc/projects/alpha1/ |
| 17:52.27 | brlcad | as I understand it (purely anecdotal), BRL threw several million at UofUtah to write the code, they did, then UofUtah told BRL they didn't have rights use ite |
| 17:52.48 | brlcad | legal battle ensued |
| 17:53.23 | starseeker | and evidently Utah hung onto it |
| 17:53.30 | talcite | huh. well that's something |
| 17:54.15 | brlcad | in the end, I think both sides walked away, UoUtah got a bunch of papers (and money) out of the deal |
| 17:54.47 | brlcad | utah saw dollar signs when they got it working, wanted to sell it |
| 17:55.14 | brlcad | apparently licensed it to at least one group, FeatureCAM |
| 17:55.32 | starseeker | bah. Whatever happened to the idea of universities doing research for the betterment of humanity, not commercial gain? |
| 17:56.10 | brlcad | that was long before my time, 15-20 years iirc |
| 17:56.54 | starseeker | and we end up with libutahrle, which I gather is used for format conversion? |
| 17:57.15 | brlcad | URT was at least released, way back in late 80's |
| 17:57.47 | brlcad | libutahrle is like libpng, we have a bunch of image processing tools that use it |
| 17:58.14 | brlcad | looks like 58 tools |
| 17:59.23 | brlcad | provides fast, simple, and lossless .pix/.bw compression |
| 18:00.19 | brlcad | worth noting that probably 30-40 of the rle tools are from URT, the rest are ours using libutahrle |
| 18:00.35 | starseeker | hrm |
| 18:00.58 | brlcad | useful processing plugins when we get that all working |
| 18:01.55 | starseeker | where does that leave talcite for making an rpm? Are we now the canonical source? |
| 18:02.21 | ``Erik | shudders recalling his pcx loader for quake shtuff |
| 18:04.49 | brlcad | doesn't really affect talcite making an rpm |
| 18:05.31 | talcite | so no source changes? |
| 18:06.01 | brlcad | nothing major that should affect integration |
| 18:07.44 | brlcad | if you really want to cleanest set of sources, that would be ours |
| 18:08.42 | brlcad | but we already break out librle from the tools |
| 18:09.18 | brlcad | we're basically 3.1b + minor build tweaks with URT and librle separated |
| 18:10.02 | brlcad | talcite: the existing RPM is no good? |
| 18:10.33 | brlcad | http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=RLE |
| 18:11.28 | talcite | brlcad: haven't tried yet. I probably need to work from native sources though. The package reviewers would have a fit if they weren't |
| 18:11.54 | brlcad | that's my point, we could certainly become the native sources |
| 18:12.17 | brlcad | could set up a proper project for URT, push out a new release |
| 18:12.25 | talcite | ohhh that's what you mean |
| 18:12.39 | brlcad | there is no upstream |
| 18:13.05 | talcite | it'd make things much simpler if we could. At the current situation, I'd be forced to become upstream myself |
| 18:13.55 | talcite | could we push out a project for utah, nurbs, and STEP? |
| 18:14.05 | brlcad | spencer isn't at uofutah any longer, there is no upstream |
| 18:15.14 | brlcad | nurbs I wouldn't want to usurp personally, we're already pushing mcneal's generosity given how we use their toolkit |
| 18:15.22 | brlcad | STEP we certainly could |
| 18:16.26 | brlcad | also has no interested/viable upstream, already gave us the go-ahead for takeover a couple years ago |
| 18:16.45 | talcite | hmm. Alright, I'll talk to the fedora devs about nurbs. Once utah and step are re-released, I'll go ahead and package them |
| 18:17.29 | brlcad | setting up utah and step projects will probably take a couple weeks |
| 18:18.03 | brlcad | (given the time of year and all) |
| 18:19.29 | starseeker | talcite: what do you need for "separate project?" tarball that can build on its own? |
| 18:20.56 | talcite | preferably its own tracker. Something I can point to when people are looking for sources and bug reports |
| 18:22.06 | starseeker | uh.. that might as well be our current stuff for BRL-CAD - what would be wrong with tarballs for those two and pointers to our current support channels? |
| 18:23.21 | talcite | probably not an issue |
| 18:23.36 | talcite | I'll double check with the fedora devs though |
| 18:23.41 | starseeker | k |
| 18:24.25 | starseeker | step already has its own subconfigure - utahrle does not, currently |
| 18:26.12 | starseeker | gonna have to update the detection logic for step building (or more probably create it, I doubt I did it right the first time) |
| 18:35.40 | brlcad | step will be pretty easy, urt will need some cleanup to warrant a 3.2 or 4.0 release |
| 18:36.51 | brlcad | i'll submit a project request to give them a tracker home |
| 18:37.51 | brlcad | then can link through some subdomains, get basic services set up |
| 18:37.56 | starseeker | utahrle.sf.net? |
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| 20:16.19 | starseeker | heh - brlcad got killed by tofu |
| 20:17.21 | tofu | huh |
| 20:20.50 | starseeker | just the way the nicks came and went |
| 20:20.55 | starseeker | is easily amused |
| 20:21.21 | tofu | fails to locate a valid e-mail for nathan o'brien |
| 20:27.34 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r36925 10/brlcad/trunk/ (25 files in 8 dirs): |
| 20:27.34 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: Swap in tkpng for the small subset of tkimg we were previously using - also try |
| 20:27.34 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: to set up tkpng to support 'proper' package require use. Archer appears to be |
| 20:27.34 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: the only app using it at the moment, so remove tkimg loading code and package |
| 20:27.34 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: require tkpng instead. As of this checking tkpng won't build out of box in all |
| 20:27.34 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: cases - the current src/other/tkpng is a pristine 0.9 tarball. Next checking |
| 20:27.36 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: will add specific changes to build logic for BRL-CAD. |
| 20:28.34 | starseeker | er, whooops - OK not quite pristine |
| 20:31.41 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r36926 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/tkpng/Makefile.in: Whoops, looks like svn helpfully ignored the original Makefile.in |
| 20:32.00 | tofu | passes distcheck? |
| 20:33.40 | starseeker | tofu: not yet, working on it |
| 20:34.19 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r36927 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/tkpng/ (Makefile.in configure configure.in): OK, add the tweaks to Makefile.in and configure.in. Shouldn't need the original configure file. This extension should disappear altogether if Tk8.6 brings native support for png. |
| 20:34.58 | starseeker | tofu: if you want we can revert it until after the release |
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| 21:08.55 | starseeker | starts distcheck and goes for food |
| 21:19.25 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r36928 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libfb/if_X.c: add prototype for genmap |
| 21:22.40 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r36929 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/ (metaball/metaball.c table.c): fix metaball_adjust prototype |
| 21:27.59 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r36930 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libtclcad/tkImgFmtPIX.c: match type with fb.h |
| 21:43.15 | ``Erik | hm, seems to be some libtool vs not libtool confusion in tkpng |
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| 21:46.11 | ``Erik | http://paste.bzflag.bz/d49811205 |
| 21:56.59 | ``Erik | huh, xcb requires python? O.o |
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| 22:10.33 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r36931 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/Makefile.am: tkimg dir is no more. |
| 22:12.49 | talcite | heh yay |
| 22:12.51 | tofu | starseeker: per erik's paste, need to make the install rule manually run make all before make install, then install without libtool |
| 22:14.10 | starseeker | er... |
| 22:14.45 | ``Erik | this is pleasant, fbsd has a tkpng port |
| 22:15.36 | talcite | tkpng is already packaged into fedora as well |
| 22:15.54 | tofu | excellend |
| 22:15.56 | tofu | t* |
| 22:15.57 | ``Erik | so if the configure.ac is smart enough to use the system one, less in /usr/local/brlcad/ :) |
| 22:16.12 | starseeker | don't y'all get too happy too fast, I haven't got it working right yet |
| 22:16.20 | starseeker | <- autotools dummy :-( |
| 22:16.31 | talcite | I'm sure brlcad can get things working for you |
| 22:16.49 | starseeker | talcite: he'll let me flounder a while - good learning experience :-/ |
| 22:16.54 | talcite | there's also a channel here that helps with autotools... #toolchain or something? |
| 22:16.57 | talcite | heh |
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| 22:18.17 | ``Erik | learning experience, entertainment, something |
| 22:18.42 | talcite | ##workingset That was it |
| 22:18.49 | talcite | these guys are really good |
| 22:19.44 | starseeker | talcite: part of the issue is we have a rather advanced autotools setup compared to what a lot of projects have, and are doing a lot of custom things (the db directory is a good example) |
| 22:19.53 | brlcad | sees a couple bzflag devs in there |
| 22:20.59 | starseeker | brlcad: do you mean doing something like tkpng-install: tkpng-all in src/other/Makefile.am? |
| 22:21.29 | brlcad | no, i mean one line to run all |
| 22:21.31 | brlcad | another to run install |
| 22:21.34 | brlcad | for the install rule |
| 22:21.37 | starseeker | oh |
| 22:32.10 | ``Erik | wow, 33 megs in src/other/boost/ O.O |
| 22:35.28 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r36932 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/Makefile.am: If someone runs the install rule, make sure make all is run first. |
| 22:35.29 | starseeker | takes a stab at it... |
| 22:45.51 | starseeker | ``Erik: did that help any? |
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| 23:48.50 | yukonbob | brlcad: what's the "kde/hyrdrogen/linux" .po discussion that's been going on about? |