| 01:10.53 | starseeker | classifies today as "frustrating" |
| 01:16.06 | starseeker | wonders whether it wouldn't be better technique to get the Tk code we need written, and then play the Aqua Tk game... |
| 02:31.16 | starseeker | well, at least the tk framebuffer works on gentoo... |
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| 03:11.00 | brlcad | hmm.. interesting, http://www.explain.com.au/oss/docbook/ |
| 03:16.22 | brlcad | wontinues continues the hunt for the shaders regression bug |
| 07:18.11 | brlcad | looks like the shaders test has been broken for more than 3000 commits |
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| 13:48.45 | ``Erik | neat |
| 14:30.22 | brlcad | narrows down to within 500 commits, still searching |
| 14:32.39 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03irpguardian * r37249 10/brlcad/trunk/src/rt/view.c: |
| 14:32.39 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: Made the heat-graph make an inverted image for testing of values |
| 14:32.39 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: that need to be changed. |
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| 15:38.39 | brlcad | finally gets it down to less than 100 commits |
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| 15:40.55 | starseeker | is gonna start pulling his hair out |
| 15:41.18 | starseeker | the Tk_Canvas call doesn't apply - can't find a canvas object in this mix anywhere |
| 15:41.50 | starseeker | the photo stuff is all hidden - Tk_ImageChanged I can't call directly, and presumably it's being called anyway |
| 15:42.18 | starseeker | the 8.6 build for tcl/tk seems to have changed significantly |
| 15:42.30 | brlcad | if you can get at the Tk_Window, I believe you can get at the canvas |
| 15:42.33 | brlcad | through another call |
| 15:42.51 | brlcad | we use the tkwin all over the place, so should be derivable |
| 15:43.15 | brlcad | or maybe not, but something to check |
| 15:43.35 | brlcad | gives up narrowing any further from here |
| 15:43.42 | starseeker | is it in the libs? don't see Canvas in mged |
| 15:47.17 | starseeker | oh wait, .fb_tk_canvas |
| 15:47.24 | starseeker | maybe I can use that |
| 15:54.34 | starseeker | grrrrrrrr |
| 15:54.52 | starseeker | no obvious way to get at the canvas object in C land |
| 15:59.45 | brlcad | what did you need the canvas for? |
| 16:00.35 | brlcad | if_tk creates a canvas via tcl, and manages it that way |
| 16:01.00 | brlcad | if you need a C hook, you'll probably have to replace those calls with the corresponding C |
| 16:01.39 | brlcad | which probably means reading the source of the tk 'canvas' command to see what it's doing during Tcl_Eval |
| 16:04.36 | starseeker | I'm trying to find an explicit refresh command I can invoke from this level, but the sense I'm getting is that I'm not supposed to be doing that |
| 16:05.05 | brlcad | ah |
| 16:05.28 | starseeker | the DoOneEvent call SHOULD work, and on X11 systems does work |
| 16:07.32 | starseeker | what do you think - I'm a little leery of dumping a ton of work up front into 8.6 tcl/tk when it may or may not work - might be better to finish our parts of the tcl/tk coding using the X11 systems and then it's ready when Tcl/Tk is ready |
| 16:11.59 | brlcad | mm.. http://books.google.com/books?id=X8TT0W7Wo0sC&lpg=PA315&ots=R6n0UWCQ_9&dq=tk%20refresh%20canvas%20-perl%20-ruby&pg=PA315#v=onepage&q=tk%20refresh%20canvas%20-perl%20-ruby&f=false |
| 16:12.10 | brlcad | I think I have my copy of that book somewhere around there |
| 16:12.30 | brlcad | sure, get it working on X11 |
| 16:12.36 | brlcad | should be able to verify it works on Windows too |
| 16:12.47 | starseeker | nods |
| 16:12.51 | brlcad | if it works on both of those, that's a pretty safe bet that it's just some aquatk issue |
| 16:13.14 | starseeker | I'll toss an email to the tcl-mac list, see if anyone has tried this type of low level stuff with Aqua 8.6 |
| 16:13.41 | brlcad | 34000 == working && 34120 == broken .. lil closer |
| 16:14.06 | starseeker | should get 'em thinking about it, if nothing else |
| 16:14.08 | starseeker | cool! |
| 16:14.18 | starseeker | hopes he didn't break it... |
| 16:16.55 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r37250 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/ (metaball/metaball_tri.c nmg/nmg_tri_mc.c): some (untested) edge solving for marching cubes |
| 16:16.57 | brlcad | just goes to show, the longer a bug goes unfixed, the more expensive it is to fix it |
| 16:17.10 | ``Erik | "technical debt", wee |
| 16:17.20 | ``Erik | just goes to show, cron that shit :D |
| 16:17.23 | brlcad | it was very likely some minor "we'll get to that later" issue |
| 16:18.30 | brlcad | it's not been a matter of the test not running, cron wouldn't have helped |
| 16:19.10 | brlcad | it's been running, regression suite has been failing on it since at least March 2009 |
| 16:19.41 | brlcad | and we've had at least a half-dozen releases since then with everyone running distcheck actively ignoring it |
| 16:20.24 | ``Erik | regress isn't mentioned in the release procedure in HACKING |
| 16:20.42 | ``Erik | daily emails from a cron woulda annoyed someone into fixing it back in march :D |
| 16:20.47 | brlcad | distcheck runs regress |
| 16:21.20 | ``Erik | starts pondering food |
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| 16:28.48 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37251 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: |
| 16:28.48 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: bob added support to the bot_dump command to allow combinations to be specified. |
| 16:28.48 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: the combination is walked and all bots encountered are exported. (don't know |
| 16:28.48 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: what it'll do with subtractions and intersects..but will probably export the |
| 16:28.48 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: leaves as-is) |
| 17:08.49 | brlcad | starseeker: is the display manager toggling stable now? |
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| 17:38.50 | brlcad | huh, sourceforge acquired ohloh last summer |
| 17:38.54 | brlcad | missed that tid bit |
| 17:39.10 | brlcad | migrated to sf.net infrastructure just a couple months ago |
| 17:52.47 | brlcad | damnits, had the range wrong, off by 500 |
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| 18:20.23 | ``Erik | pats his belly |
| 18:20.33 | brlcad | shakes his fist |
| 18:20.44 | ``Erik | find where starseeker broke the test yet? :D |
| 18:21.10 | brlcad | not yet, still narrowing |
| 18:21.34 | ``Erik | <-- did some Ren-esque fingerpointing and saying "YOUUUUUUuuuuu" |
| 18:21.57 | brlcad | getting faster to update and retest the closer I get, fewer commits |
| 18:22.58 | brlcad | really don't want to pick up shop and head in till I finish, though .. rather infuriating to not pinpoint it more quickly |
| 18:23.19 | ``Erik | for rev in `jot 20 34000` ; do xterm -c "svn co -r$REV https://... rev$rev && cd $rev && autogen.sh && ..." ;d one |
| 18:23.22 | ``Erik | :D |
| 18:24.23 | brlcad | not quite that simple |
| 18:25.02 | brlcad | some revs require .Plo file edits, others are conflicted updates or require minor edits to compile |
| 18:25.11 | ``Erik | eck |
| 18:26.26 | brlcad | narrowed back down to a range of 50 commits |
| 18:31.27 | starseeker | brlcad: that toggling should be stable |
| 18:31.37 | starseeker | if it breaks I'd like to hear about it |
| 18:31.51 | starseeker | not tried on Windows, obviously |
| 18:32.32 | brlcad | starseeker: reason I ask is news file |
| 18:32.37 | brlcad | never got an entry |
| 18:33.14 | starseeker | oh, ooops |
| 18:33.24 | starseeker | want me to get it? |
| 18:33.45 | brlcad | naturally :) |
| 18:36.16 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r37252 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: Add support for runtime toggling between different display managers in MGED. |
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| 19:26.18 | brlcad | *drumroll* |
| 19:28.31 | brlcad | starseeker: you're safe! |
| 19:28.41 | brlcad | heh, it was old faithful ;) |
| 19:29.21 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03irpguardian * r37253 10/brlcad/trunk/src/rt/view.c: |
| 19:29.21 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: Now able to pull current working pixel, which will eventually lead to file/array |
| 19:29.21 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: input for time graph. |
| 19:30.38 | brlcad | ``Erik: you're good at whining .. and since I can't get him an e-mail... |
| 19:31.23 | brlcad | using the wrong brace style, c++/c99-style comments, and should have a space after his astericks in block comments |
| 19:38.06 | ``Erik | I let him know, he's fixing things up and looking into the email thing (he hadn't tried sending one to his sf account, he's forwarding it to gmail supposedly) |
| 19:38.21 | ``Erik | (good at whining? why I oughta.... |
| 19:41.22 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03irpguardian * r37254 10/brlcad/trunk/src/rt/view.c: Various changes to comments / blocking style to make it more 'right' |
| 19:52.42 | ``Erik | (is there anything he'd have to do special to get M-x butterfly-mode for indenting?) |
| 19:56.10 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37255 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/ged.c: |
| 19:56.10 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: either the math is wrong in _ged_mat_aet(), or there is some bad initialization |
| 19:56.10 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: juju in here. don't call _ged_mat_aet() to set the rotation matrix here |
| 19:56.10 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: otherwise we end up horking the shaders.sh regression test. this gets the |
| 19:56.11 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: regression suite passing again, busted after r33883. |
| 19:56.35 | ``Erik | O.O |
| 19:56.46 | ``Erik | I thought you said it worked in r34000 |
| 20:03.31 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37256 10/brlcad/trunk/regress/ (mged_test.sh repository.sh): remove trailing ws |
| 20:04.42 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37257 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/vutil.c: document that _ged_mat_aet() needs to be investigated. |
| 20:05.59 | brlcad | then I later said I went the wrong way |
| 20:06.03 | brlcad | off by 500 |
| 20:06.05 | ``Erik | oh, missed that :D |
| 20:06.51 | ``Erik | irpguardian asked if you're happy now... (looks like excessive whitespace... ") {"?) |
| 20:07.31 | brlcad | subdivided by 2k's, then 1k's, then 500, then .. went the wrong way all the way down to about 10 commits before realzing it |
| 20:08.07 | brlcad | if i'm happy now? |
| 20:08.18 | brlcad | ahh |
| 20:08.20 | ``Erik | yeh, r37254, he tried fixing the stuff |
| 20:08.54 | brlcad | it's better, but incomplete |
| 20:09.41 | ``Erik | what's the emacs equivalent of ggvG= ? |
| 20:09.48 | ``Erik | (or :%!indent) |
| 20:10.03 | brlcad | M-x indent-region |
| 20:10.14 | ``Erik | is there an indent-file |
| 20:10.15 | ``Erik | ? |
| 20:10.31 | brlcad | it uses a built-in style that are footer defines |
| 20:10.37 | ``Erik | meh, region should be good 'nuff, I'll go tell him about it |
| 20:10.43 | brlcad | doesn't redo braces, it's just basic indentation setup |
| 20:11.29 | starseeker | getting XAllocColor and other such things being undefined when I try the 8.6 beta in aqua, but NOT when I do it with X11... see stub definitions in the macosx directory that must not be getting built... may have to platform conditionalize the Makefile.am, looks like the unix dir won't cut it on macosx any more in the non-X11 case |
| 20:12.10 | brlcad | ``Erik: the problem is more that he's following the existing style in the file, that file hasn't been cleaned up yet |
| 20:12.21 | ``Erik | ok, he's dorking with figuring out how to mark now |
| 20:12.31 | ``Erik | ah, 'k, I'll tell him that |
| 20:13.57 | starseeker | also wonders why it's doing -ltk8.5 when the version is 8.6... weird |
| 20:14.19 | ``Erik | pointed him to the hacking file, *shrug* :) |
| 20:17.42 | starseeker | idly wonders if 8.6 tk exhibits the same X11 bug on the Mac... |
| 20:18.42 | starseeker | yeah, compile made it to the docs stage when using X11 - gonna have to conditinally go for macosx when doign the aqua build |
| 20:20.52 | starseeker | decides - today and tomorrow get the newest stuff into the dmtogl branch, compiling or not, and do whatever can be done quickly - next week, back to creating libdm/libfb tk code |
| 20:22.36 | brlcad | ctrl-space is mark |
| 20:22.43 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37258 10/brlcad/trunk/src/rt/view.c: style cleanup. k&r brace style, eliminate space paddings, and more ws. style and comment consistency cleanup. |
| 20:23.54 | brlcad | now it's clean |
| 20:24.47 | starseeker | growl |
| 20:24.48 | ``Erik | he's updated and going now |
| 20:25.10 | starseeker | get the Tcl_WaitForEvent: CFRunLoop finished behavor even with X11 on 8.6 beta... |
| 20:25.29 | starseeker | subscribes to tcl-mac |
| 20:33.49 | ``Erik | wow, the tk fb works |
| 20:36.47 | ``Erik | (middle and right click don't work in the tk fb) |
| 20:36.59 | starseeker | no surprise |
| 20:37.32 | ``Erik | just sharing my findings :) (or, "whining", according to some) |
| 20:37.49 | starseeker | what's right click supposed to do? |
| 20:38.08 | ``Erik | close the window |
| 20:38.13 | starseeker | ah, k |
| 20:38.16 | ``Erik | middle click gives you x,y,r,g,b |
| 20:38.18 | starseeker | just need to add another binding |
| 20:38.48 | starseeker | take a look at if_tk.c as compared to the other if_*.c files, it looks... a bit short at the moment :-P |
| 20:39.19 | ``Erik | I'd hope it'd be significantly shorter than the others even when it's complete... :D TK abstracts a lot of the footwork... |
| 20:39.31 | ``Erik | if_sdl.c might be even shorter still O.O |
| 20:39.35 | starseeker | oh, absolutely |
| 20:40.13 | starseeker | that's one of the main reasons to hope that the tk framebuffer can become the "one true MGED/Archer framebuffer" - big old code simplicifation |
| 20:40.31 | starseeker | but right now there are a lot of stub functions with nothin ;-) |
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| 21:07.51 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r37259 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/metaball/metaball_tri.c: document the vertex/edge topology of the cube. Return the error code on failure (instead of -1) |
| 21:24.44 | starseeker | uh... |
| 21:24.59 | starseeker | needs an objective c compiler, apparently... |
| 21:26.06 | brlcad | gcc/g++ should work on mac |
| 21:28.06 | starseeker | I'm getting a trigger of #if !__OBJC__ |
| 21:29.04 | starseeker | weird |
| 21:29.16 | starseeker | gcc does have objc support, according to gcc -v |
| 21:29.41 | brlcad | if !defined(__OBJC__) |
| 21:31.06 | starseeker | still triggering |
| 21:31.15 | starseeker | and followed immediately by a slew of parse errors |
| 21:31.20 | starseeker | in all cases |
| 21:32.05 | starseeker | ah, well |
| 21:35.08 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37260 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/gqa.c: |
| 21:35.08 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: fix gqa crash on 64-bit linux where strsep() is not defined (due to strict |
| 21:35.08 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: compilation, it's a bsd extension). the 32-bit int return value getting cast to |
| 21:35.08 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: a 64-bit pointer was badness. instead rewrite the units parsing to use strtok() |
| 21:35.09 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: since it's c89, also taking the opportunity to get rid of the unnecessary goto |
| 21:35.11 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: logic. while we're at it, take care of fstat/fileno warnings along with a |
| 21:35.13 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: strdup() -> bu_strdup() fix. |
| 21:37.09 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37261 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: diagnosed and fixed a bug in 64-bit linux where strsep getting run without a prototype was causing a segfault (due to 32-bit int to 64-bit pointer conversion). observed on RHEL5. |
| 21:37.15 | ``Erik | um, linux doesn't ship gobjc by default, it's an addon package for most distros |
| 21:37.20 | ``Erik | same with bsd |
| 21:37.33 | starseeker | is on mac |
| 21:37.46 | ``Erik | but it is part of the gcc suite and the gcc frontend can point towards it with the right flags, I think :) |
| 21:38.04 | ``Erik | automake should see .m and assume it needs to run gobjc instead of gcc |
| 21:38.21 | brlcad | they build it in on the mac |
| 21:38.38 | brlcad | some other juju is wrong |
| 21:38.38 | ``Erik | shuts up and reads the scroll |
| 21:39.12 | starseeker | is seeing other problems with the Make stuff - should probably diagnose that first |
| 21:39.52 | starseeker | first order of business is to get committing to dmtogl - there are some configure.ac and other changes to be made here |
| 21:40.03 | brlcad | woo hoo, the regression suite now passes save for one false-positive on a common.h header check |
| 21:40.09 | starseeker | sweeet! |
| 21:40.14 | starseeker | good work brlcad |
| 21:41.00 | ``Erik | the points lexer? |
| 21:41.23 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r37262 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/metaball/metaball_tri.c: add missing curly |
| 21:41.48 | ``Erik | if I do 'DISPLAY="" make regress', is it going to freak out? :) |
| 21:41.55 | brlcad | ``Erik: yep |
| 21:42.58 | ``Erik | (is that the last gotcha before it's cron ready?) |
| 21:42.58 | brlcad | er, yep to the first, dunno about the latter |
| 21:44.05 | ``Erik | hm, it seems to pass without a valid display, neat |
| 21:44.21 | ``Erik | (with the display, I thought I saw the mged tk gui flash) |
| 21:44.34 | starseeker | yeah, I saw that too |
| 21:44.42 | starseeker | I think some of the mged commands trigger it |
| 21:44.57 | ``Erik | heh, "attach"? :D |
| 21:45.43 | starseeker | suppose we should break things into "gui" and "non-gui" portions, to allow for a non-gui regression that tests what it can... |
| 21:48.52 | ``Erik | heh, "attach"? :D |
| 21:48.56 | ``Erik | woops |
| 22:03.18 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r37263 10/brlcad/branches/dmtogl/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 22:03.18 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: Start working on an upgrade to the way the build logic handles tcl/tk on OSX - |
| 22:03.18 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: looking ahead to 8.6 tcl/tk and Aqua support, we can no longer pretend OSX is |
| 22:03.18 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: unix and build the unix directory of tcl/tk - will need to use the actual macosx |
| 22:03.18 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: directory. Also, new work on the Tk Aqua backend is being done via Cocoa rather |
| 22:03.21 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: than Carbon, so need to reexamine what is needed for the non-X11 build flags to |
| 22:03.23 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: tcl/tk |
| 22:04.08 | yukonbob | hello, #brlcad |
| 22:04.28 | starseeker | hey yukonbob |
| 22:04.49 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r37264 10/brlcad/branches/dmtogl/ (9 files in 6 dirs): Sync dmtogl trunk to r37263. |
| 22:04.51 | starseeker | this Tcl/Tk stuff is tiring :-P |
| 22:12.02 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03irpguardian * r37265 10/brlcad/trunk/src/rt/view.c: |
| 22:12.02 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: Moved timetable_init as so it wouldn't cause warning messages if called in |
| 22:12.02 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: color view. Also added funtionality to timetable_init as now it stores values |
| 22:12.02 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: into the time_table array, as well as longest time and shortest time. |
| 22:23.07 | starseeker | hmm, looks like that Cocoa framework test doesn't work |
| 22:23.17 | starseeker | blegh |
| 22:26.14 | starseeker | supposes he shouldn't be surprised, since it was a complete takeoff of the Carbon test... |
| 22:31.29 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03irpguardian * r37266 10/brlcad/trunk/src/rt/view.c: |
| 22:31.29 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: Added a variable which increments whenever a new entry is added into time table, |
| 22:31.29 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: will be used for calculating average. |
| 22:32.15 | ``Erik | isn't sure which makes him more manic; rapid progress and success, or making starseekers brain hurt |
| 22:32.37 | starseeker | what about success that makes my brain hurt? |
| 22:33.41 | ``Erik | see, now you're just begging for a mean quip about any success making your brain hurt.. |
| 22:34.10 | starseeker | <snort> after this week it would be hard to argue |
| 22:37.30 | starseeker | felt a few twinges when that tk framebuffer didn't behave quite right on AquaTk |
| 22:37.37 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r37267 10/brlcad/branches/dmtogl/configure.ac: See what happens with the old 8.5 tcl/tk when this build logic is used. |
| 22:43.34 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r37268 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/nmg/nmg_tri_mc.c: start building triangles |
| 23:19.21 | starseeker | what's the point of having stub library files and linkages? |
| 23:19.34 | starseeker | is sure there is one, but it's making his life annoying at the moment... |
| 23:31.55 | louipc | I wonder how hard it would be to make one of these in brl-cad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLJxMUw51N8 |
| 23:42.25 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r37269 10/brlcad/branches/dmtogl/configure.ac: Need at least one file from the unix dir for includes. |
| 23:58.32 | ``Erik | puh-puh-puh-puh-pokerface *sing* |
| 23:58.39 | ``Erik | (cartman style) |