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| 01:14.58 | starseeker | makes it home intact, but his car's front bumper does not |
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| 01:39.03 | ``Erik | :( |
| 01:39.24 | starseeker | turns out you need at least some traction when making right turns |
| 01:39.26 | ``Erik | run up against a snow bank? |
| 01:39.28 | starseeker | yep |
| 01:39.30 | ``Erik | heh |
| 01:39.58 | ``Erik | I was just out with the neighbors observng the snowfall O.o |
| 01:40.03 | starseeker | is NOT happy, but at least I didn't hurt myself |
| 01:40.19 | starseeker | and the car made it home |
| 01:40.53 | ``Erik | just the lower dam? called insurance yet? |
| 01:40.59 | starseeker | called insurance |
| 01:41.23 | starseeker | doesn't look like the hood is deformed, but of course I haven't had a good look |
| 01:41.45 | ``Erik | is glad he stayed home O.o |
| 01:41.50 | starseeker | all I know for sure is that the bumper is cracked pretty good, and loose on the left side right below the headlight |
| 01:42.16 | starseeker | oh, and the license plate is skewed and some kind of rubber thing is dangling |
| 01:42.29 | ``Erik | yeesh |
| 01:42.35 | starseeker | ``Erik: go ahead and make fun of my winter driving... |
| 01:42.40 | ``Erik | hit the snow pretty good then |
| 01:42.55 | starseeker | yeah - it was one of the frozen banks, plowed up |
| 01:42.58 | starseeker | so nice and dense |
| 01:43.02 | ``Erik | nah, I'll make fun of ya for attempting it, but... |
| 01:43.24 | ``Erik | snow driving is a skill |
| 01:43.48 | ``Erik | I'm a pathetic amatuer, most are completely untrained |
| 01:44.11 | starseeker | I should have left earlier, it got worse as I headed west |
| 01:44.36 | ``Erik | you're home safe, so tha'ts what matters |
| 01:44.42 | starseeker | dunno what insurance will do - find out over the next few days I suppose |
| 01:44.46 | starseeker | nods |
| 01:44.55 | starseeker | yeah, coulda been a lot worse |
| 01:45.14 | starseeker | has never delt with insurance co before |
| 01:45.33 | ``Erik | well, never admit anything that might constitute fault |
| 01:45.57 | starseeker | you mean when there are two parties involved? |
| 01:46.04 | ``Erik | always keep in mind, they are a legal entity interested in maximising profit |
| 01:46.10 | starseeker | nods |
| 01:46.13 | ``Erik | act of nature, whatever |
| 01:46.20 | ``Erik | just understand what they are |
| 01:46.35 | starseeker | figured one part accident, only one party to blame.. |
| 01:46.46 | ``Erik | the rep's you talk to will probably be compassionate concerned people who want to make sure you're ok, but the company ... |
| 01:46.55 | starseeker | yeah |
| 01:47.29 | starseeker | is hopeful that, if it's just the bumper, it could be fairly straightforward |
| 01:47.36 | ``Erik | if'n ya feel at all physically affected, go to the hospital for their sign-off... insurance should cover it without hesitation |
| 01:47.54 | ``Erik | when I rolled the car, I went a few days later, they gave me xrays and mri's, insurance covered |
| 01:48.00 | starseeker | nods - fortunately, it wasn't that hard or fast |
| 01:48.18 | ``Erik | just sayin' better safe than sorry |
| 01:48.20 | starseeker | If it had been softer snow, I might not have crunched the bumper like that |
| 01:48.47 | starseeker | friggin ice blocks |
| 01:49.24 | ``Erik | well, hopefully it is just replacing a $400 piece of plastic :) |
| 01:49.29 | starseeker | if I do feel anything I will, but frankly I've gotten worse jolts from bad amusement park rides |
| 01:49.47 | starseeker | or a skilled brown belt in karate ;-) |
| 01:49.54 | starseeker | yeah, that'd be nice |
| 01:49.54 | ``Erik | heh |
| 01:50.16 | ``Erik | but yeh, road conditions are poor... |
| 01:50.28 | ``Erik | guess bob decided to drive on by, he didn't stop by |
| 01:50.46 | ``Erik | and it looks like it's gonna snow all night |
| 01:50.55 | starseeker | I can't blame him |
| 01:50.57 | starseeker | it's bad |
| 01:51.02 | ``Erik | me, either |
| 01:51.22 | starseeker | I crawled home at about 5mph and barely had control |
| 01:51.23 | ``Erik | glad I stayed home :) |
| 01:51.33 | ``Erik | apparently you didn't have control. |
| 01:51.40 | starseeker | I mean after that |
| 01:51.48 | ``Erik | yeh |
| 01:52.09 | ``Erik | after mondays adventures, I decided it just waren't worth it |
| 01:52.44 | ``Erik | like nikki said, is how much you make a day more than the deductable? |
| 01:53.02 | starseeker | <snort> or more to the point, the increased premiums |
| 01:53.21 | ``Erik | aypu |
| 01:53.56 | starseeker | bets they'll be flooded with similar stuff |
| 01:53.57 | ``Erik | has increased his premiums enough, needs to let things settle a bit O.o |
| 01:54.10 | starseeker | how long does it take for them to settle back down? |
| 01:54.27 | ``Erik | 3 or 5 years for most companies |
| 01:54.34 | starseeker | nods |
| 01:55.00 | starseeker | ponders getting snow tires for winter... |
| 01:55.12 | ``Erik | I'm sure my company hates me, I'm "ahead of the game" |
| 01:55.38 | ``Erik | yeh, was pondering either buying small rims and winter tires for my car or a truck |
| 01:55.59 | ``Erik | she's hiding in a paper bag. O.o |
| 01:56.09 | starseeker | hehe |
| 02:01.08 | ``Erik | do ya get much vacation? this kinda struck me as a mandatory set... |
| 02:01.49 | ``Erik | also; I feel compelled to point out at work that you wrecked on a/s tires next to me where I have summer tires... :D |
| 02:01.57 | ``Erik | YOU VINDICATE ME!!!#~!@!~ |
| 02:03.52 | starseeker | heh |
| 02:04.29 | starseeker | if this week is a vacation it's the suckiest on my record |
| 02:05.28 | ``Erik | I d'no |
| 02:05.47 | ``Erik | I argue for my job to be margaritas in tahiti... so chillin' in the snow ... might coun? |
| 02:05.50 | ``Erik | count |
| 02:06.03 | starseeker | letsee... PC died just as the first big storm rolls in, shoveled a ton of snow to get out over two days, just so I could mess up my car's bumper cover... |
| 02:06.28 | starseeker | and oh, just for more fun, another huge shoveling job coming up... |
| 02:06.53 | starseeker | no mail moving so the replacement PC won't be here for a while |
| 02:07.00 | ``Erik | dude, stay home, relax, play video games or whatever |
| 02:07.05 | starseeker | heh |
| 02:07.10 | ``Erik | the world will not end if you don't commit tomorrow |
| 02:07.14 | ``Erik | no matter what brlcad claims |
| 02:07.18 | starseeker | lol |
| 02:07.39 | starseeker | yeah, I'm not trying to go in tomorrow |
| 02:08.11 | ``Erik | srsly, ain't no software worth risking life and limb |
| 02:08.17 | ``Erik | no job for that matter |
| 02:08.20 | starseeker | nods |
| 02:08.36 | starseeker | my first experience with this type of driving - teaches respect for the weather |
| 02:09.01 | ``Erik | yehhhhhh, we need to teach you about driving. |
| 02:09.25 | starseeker | 1) get tires with good traction in snow 2) don't |
| 02:12.19 | ``Erik | driving in snow with good snow tires is quite different than driving on asphalt with street tires... |
| 02:12.47 | starseeker | yeah, but it's gotta be easier than driving in snow with smooth street tires |
| 02:13.01 | ``Erik | heh, marginally |
| 02:13.06 | starseeker | (my tires were coming up for replacement, which probably isn't improving matters any) |
| 02:13.30 | ``Erik | aggressive gravel driving is probably the shit |
| 02:13.38 | ``Erik | that's how I cut my teeth |
| 02:13.56 | starseeker | by easier, I mean possible |
| 02:14.05 | starseeker | yeah, never did gravel driving |
| 02:14.24 | ``Erik | I think if you can manage aggressive gravel driving, snow driving is fairly straigh forward |
| 02:15.12 | ``Erik | snow is basically gravel in slow motion |
| 02:22.38 | ``Erik | you can't be a noncomformist if you don't drink coffee. |
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| 04:58.03 | QAChip | hallo all |
| 04:58.12 | QAChip | any one can help me with compilation |
| 05:00.28 | CoconutCrab | yes? |
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| 05:05.21 | QAChip | im back |
| 05:06.57 | QAChip | last saturday i ran ./configure and had no problem, but when make, make make test I found some issues |
| 05:07.25 | QAChip | can anyone help me? please! |
| 05:10.58 | QAChip | any one here? |
| 05:11.15 | QAChip | any out of those 26? |
| 05:15.53 | QAChip | come on, can no one help me with this? |
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| 06:02.30 | QAChip | any one can help me |
| 06:03.04 | ``Erik | ...g otta say what issues... |
| 06:03.12 | QAChip | ok... |
| 06:04.14 | QAChip | ~/Download/brlcad-7.16.4/src/libdm/.libs/libdm.so: undefined reference to `XFreeDeviceList' |
| 06:04.21 | QAChip | something like this |
| 06:04.51 | QAChip | what is missing |
| 06:05.00 | QAChip | undefined reference to `XOpenDevice' |
| 06:05.08 | QAChip | undefined reference to `XSelectExtensionEvent' |
| 06:05.16 | QAChip | undefined reference to `XListInputDevices' |
| 06:06.48 | QAChip | http://fpaste.org/cIJZ/ |
| 06:10.25 | ``Erik | so you didn't install the X libraries and headers? |
| 06:10.26 | brlcad | you need to install libXi |
| 06:10.33 | brlcad | Xi-dev |
| 06:11.19 | ``Erik | shakes fist at the linux retards who decided that splitting headers and libraries into seperate packages was a good idea O.o |
| 06:12.37 | QAChip | just libX11-devel, or is there another package for libraries and headers |
| 06:14.02 | QAChip | ?? |
| 06:21.04 | ``Erik | libXi-devel, I'd imagine |
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| 06:26.27 | QAChip | hey, this pidgin is giving me headache |
| 06:26.28 | QAChip | I back |
| 06:27.12 | QAChip | http://fpaste.org/cIJZ/ |
| 06:28.45 | QAChip | it seems that the compilere dont know where are my files, should I re run ./configure before make? |
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| 14:58.12 | brlcad | starseeker: heh, bumper oops? ouch, sorry to hear that.. |
| 15:02.49 | brlcad | mm.. insurance advice from nikki, interesting |
| 15:03.05 | brlcad | THE WORLD WILL END IF WE DO NOT COMMIT MORE! |
| 15:03.08 | brlcad | :) |
| 15:04.35 | brlcad | fyi, wrt to QAChip's compile, once he installed the new lib, he needed to rerun autogen.sh or delete his config cache |
| 15:07.15 | starseeker | brlcad: yeah, this week has been a jewel |
| 15:07.25 | starseeker | hehe |
| 15:07.37 | starseeker | gawks out the window |
| 15:08.08 | starseeker | well, no point in the insurance folks calling for a while - everything is vanishing again |
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| 15:08.44 | starseeker | can see that as a motto for developers - "Save the World, commit more!" |
| 15:09.40 | starseeker | well, at least APG had the sanity not to stay open |
| 15:27.04 | starseeker | brlcad: how you fixed for food down there? |
| 15:28.26 | brlcad | i'm fixed pretty good |
| 15:28.57 | starseeker | that's a relief - from the sound of things it could be a while before you get out of there :-( |
| 15:29.29 | brlcad | one of the best places to be snowed in |
| 15:29.47 | starseeker | with your big screen tv? ;-) |
| 15:29.50 | brlcad | nearly everything I need is within walking distance |
| 15:30.16 | starseeker | O.o Is it open though? |
| 15:30.37 | starseeker | If your area is completely unplowed you've gotta be looking at 4+ feet to "walk" through |
| 15:30.37 | brlcad | yep |
| 15:30.45 | starseeker | wow |
| 15:30.55 | brlcad | there are little paths everywhere |
| 15:31.08 | starseeker | cool - that works |
| 15:31.18 | brlcad | everyone doing their little part (well, most) to shovel |
| 15:31.52 | brlcad | me and two neighbor buddies started shoveling the street down the side of my house after the first hit |
| 15:32.04 | brlcad | we cleared it bare about 1/3 the way down |
| 15:32.10 | starseeker | nice |
| 15:32.15 | brlcad | with 10"+ mounds of snow on the side |
| 15:32.26 | brlcad | three guys, three hours |
| 15:32.29 | starseeker | 10' you mean? |
| 15:32.33 | brlcad | ah, hehe, yes |
| 15:32.46 | brlcad | everyone walking by was "OMG! that's amazing..." |
| 15:32.56 | starseeker | agrees - it is amazing |
| 15:33.22 | starseeker | trick now will be where to put the next batch if the piles are already at 10' |
| 15:33.27 | brlcad | I didn't really appreciate what we'd done until I walked around the neighborhood some more |
| 15:34.11 | brlcad | the best part is that since we got it started, about 20 people cleared out the bottom 2/3rds the next day, those that lived further down the street |
| 15:34.42 | starseeker | hah, cool |
| 15:34.48 | brlcad | yeah, pretty funny |
| 15:34.54 | brlcad | the side street was completely bare |
| 15:35.03 | brlcad | a clear path to nothing :) |
| 15:35.26 | starseeker | pics? |
| 15:35.28 | brlcad | as the main roads leading to it were completely unplowed |
| 15:35.34 | brlcad | yeah, haven't uploaded yet |
| 15:35.47 | starseeker | that will be awesome :-) |
| 15:36.03 | starseeker | gonna try to do it again after the second wave passes? |
| 15:36.28 | brlcad | probably |
| 15:36.53 | starseeker | hat's off to you folks |
| 15:36.53 | brlcad | it was a good workout, that day was 6 hours shoveling, completely non-stop |
| 15:37.22 | brlcad | I think I went through 8 tall glasses of water afterwards in the span of 15 minutes |
| 15:37.28 | starseeker | can believe it |
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| 17:49.29 | gp5st | hey |
| 17:49.55 | gp5st | is it possible to take an image and make a rough 3d model of what is seen in the image? |
| 17:56.37 | Stattrav | gp5st: as in you want to pick up a jpeg and want a software to convert it to a 3d model ? |
| 17:56.44 | Stattrav | for example ^ |
| 17:57.20 | gp5st | Stattrav: yeah, basically. as good as it can. I know that i'll have to create the other side and clean it up a good bit |
| 17:58.44 | Stattrav | gp5st: i dont think so, because its still a research problem at the moment |
| 17:59.26 | gp5st | for example, given something like http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?45491 or http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?14246 and some parameters (hand waving, i'm referring to approx camera angle, perhaps a size reference) could i get a frame to work on |
| 17:59.33 | gp5st | oh ok, sorry didn't see your msg |
| 17:59.54 | Stattrav | gp5st: Reconstruction of a 3d object from the orthogonal views/someother view is still in its early phases |
| 18:00.27 | gp5st | oh, i see |
| 18:01.16 | gp5st | because i'm new to 3dcad (any cad, really) and find it difficult to do thing |
| 18:01.27 | gp5st | i guess there aren't any shortcuts with this one:-p |
| 18:01.29 | Stattrav | More importantly getting a depth estimate from this view is difficult unless we either have a series of images with some motion of elements in it or from orthogonal views |
| 18:01.59 | Stattrav | gp5st: Nope :) |
| 18:03.01 | gp5st | what if size estimates could be provides. for instance i know how long and wide street cars were. |
| 18:03.15 | gp5st | ok, i'll just have to actually learn this then:-) |
| 18:11.29 | Stattrav | gp5st: still no framework has been developed so far to do so |
| 18:12.36 | gp5st | yeah:) |
| 18:12.54 | gp5st | thanks for your conformation of that:) |
| 18:13.11 | Stattrav | np :) |
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| 18:14.34 | gp5st | just for background for what it's worth: i want to have 3d diagrams of streetcars and some other engines because i would like to use 3d printing technology to print some models for my train layout for me |
| 18:18.00 | Stattrav | gp5st: what do you mean by printing 3d models ? how ? |
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