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| 01:18.55 | ``Erik | heh http://hijinksensue.com/2008/11/10/my-uncle-the-astronaut/ foxes handling of good scifi finally makes sense O.o |
| 01:28.06 | starseeker | urm... what does pkg_getclient: accept: errno=38 mean? |
| 01:29.26 | starseeker | happens in Archer when I try to do a raytrace |
| 01:30.02 | ``Erik | looks like an accept() fail, according to src/libpkg/pkg.c |
| 01:30.52 | starseeker | grr |
| 01:31.33 | ``Erik | :D |
| 01:32.36 | starseeker | must be a recent change... letsee... |
| 01:32.41 | ``Erik | (someone just printed errno instead of calling perror()?) |
| 01:33.21 | starseeker | not sure... |
| 01:34.45 | ``Erik | hm, 38 maps to ENOTSOCK on my mac |
| 01:35.23 | starseeker | suspects it may be some recent fb change... |
| 01:35.36 | starseeker | but MGED works OK, both in window and isolated |
| 01:35.37 | starseeker | hrm |
| 01:52.34 | brlcad | prasad_: almost did but wasn't urgent need so decided to wait |
| 01:53.35 | brlcad | wonders which two leads .. met Brian back around 2000 |
| 01:54.49 | brlcad | starseeker: /usr/include/sys/errno.h:#define ENOTSOCK 38 /* Socket operation on non-socket */ |
| 01:55.24 | starseeker | nods - now to figure out why Archer is hitting that... |
| 01:55.29 | brlcad | ah, erik pointed that out |
| 01:55.35 | brlcad | catches up |
| 01:56.31 | ``Erik | break&bt? |
| 02:05.26 | starseeker | brlcad: would this license be any problem for us? http://bzflag.bz/~starseeker/tktable_license.txt |
| 02:07.30 | starseeker | doesn't really think so, but would appreciate confirmation of that... |
| 02:12.23 | CIA-73 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r38574 10/brlcad/trunk/src/mged/ (info.c setup.c): Wrap the analyze command so as to allow it to report on a primitive being edited in MGED. |
| 02:16.43 | ``Erik | "buddha! don't do coke infront of kids!" |
| 02:18.09 | brlcad | starseeker: huh, that's actually a really good question ... and my initial reading would infer that it's surprisingly lgpl incompatible because it tries to impose an additional restriction |
| 02:19.16 | starseeker | because of the RESTRICTED RIGHTS section? |
| 02:19.23 | brlcad | yep |
| 02:19.44 | brlcad | unless lgpl has that same clause |
| 02:19.45 | starseeker | was looking up the Rights in Technical Data thing... |
| 02:20.02 | brlcad | it's a standard contracting clause |
| 02:20.09 | starseeker | http://farsite.hill.af.mil/reghtml/regs/far2afmcfars/fardfars/dfars/dfars252_227.htm#P298_15664 |
| 02:21.09 | starseeker | brlcad: best course to email Jeffery Hobbs? |
| 02:22.32 | brlcad | I was just reading that page, which humorously has no (c) 1 ii |
| 02:23.36 | starseeker | yeah, that doesn't really help does it? :-P |
| 02:24.46 | ``Erik | the url reads like it was created by the same guy who wrote the swedish chefs dialog O.o |
| 02:25.04 | starseeker | even more amusingly, the project they link to as a good example use of tktable is GPL |
| 02:25.10 | starseeker | (moodss) |
| 02:25.23 | brlcad | it probably was (b), but not clear which one, maybe (b) 1 ii |
| 02:25.53 | brlcad | which basically lets him use that work in a govt contract that requires unlimited gov rights be grantable |
| 02:26.13 | brlcad | if that's the case, it's probably compatible |
| 02:26.32 | brlcad | as those are similarly granting additional freedom, not restricting |
| 02:26.46 | starseeker | nods |
| 02:26.58 | starseeker | I didn't see anything in there that really looked restrictive |
| 02:27.01 | brlcad | if it's (b) 2 or (b) 3, though, diff issue |
| 02:28.05 | starseeker | reads... |
| 02:28.21 | starseeker | oh, OK, so those (if invoked) would limit the government specifically? |
| 02:29.25 | brlcad | reduce rights the gov't can exercise |
| 02:29.43 | brlcad | it's otherwise a BSD license |
| 02:30.17 | starseeker | mutter... OK, here we go. You want to email him, or shall I? |
| 02:30.44 | brlcad | that section is read as an addendum clause that either grants or reduces rights to some individuals (i.e. the govt) |
| 02:30.48 | brlcad | if it grants, we're good |
| 02:30.54 | brlcad | go for it |
| 02:31.05 | brlcad | clause FAR 52.227-19 makes no sense to me in this context |
| 02:32.13 | brlcad | as there are terms there that are not yet defined, and refers to royalties and payment between a contractor and the gov't |
| 02:33.28 | brlcad | I'm guessing the table was implemented by hobbs for some govt contract and his contract required giving them complete rights, so he duplicated those contract terms along with his bsd license |
| 02:33.32 | starseeker | was the DFAR stuff updated after tktable was written? |
| 02:34.07 | brlcad | dunno, could be a typo or could have changed |
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| 02:55.45 | starseeker | emails hobbs (hopefully his sourceforge email is current...) |
| 02:58.31 | starseeker | arrgh - Archer shows trouble on Linux, too |
| 02:58.37 | starseeker | anybody else seeing it? |
| 03:27.24 | starseeker | OK, it was introduced after r38471 |
| 03:28.56 | starseeker | hmm, this is kinda interesting (LGPL, tcl/tk) http://ipat-s.kb-creative.net/index.html |
| 03:34.20 | starseeker | after 38479 |
| 03:37.47 | starseeker | alright, broke in 38481 but with a different error |
| 03:39.50 | starseeker | pkg_getclient: accept: errno=9 |
| 03:41.51 | ``Erik | bad file descriptor |
| 03:41.57 | ``Erik | /usr/include/sys/errno.h |
| 03:42.06 | starseeker | nods |
| 03:42.32 | starseeker | trying to trace through the libfb changes to see if that was fixed only to have another error introduced |
| 04:06.41 | starseeker | ok, as of 38535 it had assumed the 38 error |
| 04:08.09 | starseeker | so busted from 38481, new error by 38535 |
| 04:08.33 | starseeker | well need some detailed examination - probably libfb, possibly libpkg |
| 04:09.00 | starseeker | also possibly archer or its libs needing an update |
| 04:09.11 | starseeker | heads outta here |
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| 09:35.33 | d-lo | starseeker: Did you seriously stay at work until 0009 ? |
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| 11:26.53 | ``Erik | y'know, at some point, the name of the office stops being the office and becomes the doghouse O.o |
| 11:47.50 | CIA-73 | BRL-CAD: 03indianlarry * r38575 10/brlcad/trunk/src/nirt/command.c: |
| 11:47.51 | CIA-73 | BRL-CAD: The backout/-b option to nirt is suppose to back the ray origin point out of the |
| 11:47.51 | CIA-73 | BRL-CAD: geometry. Internally the origin point was actually being backed up by the |
| 11:47.51 | CIA-73 | BRL-CAD: bounding sphere diameter. This backout method will still miss geometry if your |
| 11:47.51 | CIA-73 | BRL-CAD: origin point is out past the bounding sphere distance. This option now backs out |
| 11:47.51 | CIA-73 | BRL-CAD: a bounding sphere radius distance in front of the bounding sphere. |
| 12:03.28 | CIA-73 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r38576 10/brlcad/trunk/configure.ac: detect the "-arch x86_64" 64bit build flag for osX.5+/x86 |
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| 12:36.20 | starseeker | manages to get a debugger on archer: http://bzflag.bz/~starseeker/pkg_getclient_debug.txt |
| 12:38.38 | ``Erik | sockaddr_in will tell you more than sockaddr |
| 12:40.53 | brlcad | starseeker: ah, if 38481 did it then I must have introduced something merging those two functions |
| 12:42.38 | brlcad | might be mixing win32 logic |
| 12:43.02 | CIA-73 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r38577 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/step/configure.ac: add the osX.5 x86 64b flag (should finding the 64b flag be a BC_ macro?) |
| 12:43.16 | CIA-73 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r38578 10/brlcad/trunk/configure.ac: pass 64bit build request to src/other/tcl |
| 12:43.49 | brlcad | if tcl needs it, tk probably does too |
| 12:44.13 | brlcad | starseeker: probably something as simple as advancing the port number +5559 |
| 12:44.20 | ``Erik | it seemed to be ok, it might try to automagic it from tclConfig.sh |
| 12:44.20 | brlcad | given the errno |
| 12:46.05 | ``Erik | grouses about the fileserver still being down. :/ |
| 12:46.18 | brlcad | oh, you added it to ac_configure_args |
| 12:46.22 | brlcad | that applies to everyone |
| 12:46.32 | brlcad | curious that wasn't already a prefix flag though? |
| 12:46.41 | brlcad | s/prefix/configure/ |
| 12:47.09 | brlcad | all original flags should get passed down through to subconfigures |
| 12:47.35 | brlcad | or'd you use --enable-64bit-build or something specific to cad? |
| 12:47.58 | starseeker | brlcad: looks like the fossil tkhtml repository won't allow anonymous cloning |
| 12:48.05 | ``Erik | I made it work with the --enable-64bit-build, yes... was trying to get away from setting CFLAGS O.o |
| 12:48.23 | brlcad | ah, okay |
| 12:48.32 | brlcad | sounds good then |
| 12:48.38 | ``Erik | hm, enigma still builds 32bit, but that's probably ok |
| 12:48.56 | brlcad | enigma is close to chopping block material |
| 12:49.22 | brlcad | would be useful as an under-the-hood means for simple object encryption |
| 12:49.32 | brlcad | which is why it was left, but .. that's a ways off |
| 12:49.37 | ``Erik | <-- more interested in seeing jove bite it, but *shrug* |
| 12:49.43 | starseeker | ah, nevermind |
| 12:49.49 | starseeker | got a zip of the latest version |
| 12:50.24 | ``Erik | might as well use a modern crypto lib (possibly as a necessary dep, to avoid crypto export crap) |
| 12:50.41 | brlcad | starseeker: user 'anonymous' has cloning capabilities |
| 12:51.12 | ``Erik | ooh, 10meg librt.19.dylib :o |
| 12:51.22 | ``Erik | (debug, not optimized) |
| 12:54.17 | brlcad | starseeker: account created |
| 12:54.27 | starseeker | cool, thanks :-) |
| 12:56.49 | starseeker | tries building hv3... |
| 12:57.01 | starseeker | annnnd immediately notes he needs the snit package |
| 12:57.05 | starseeker | confound it |
| 13:01.07 | starseeker | ponders whether to install just snit or the heck with it and grab tcllib |
| 13:13.34 | starseeker | grabs tcllib |
| 13:13.43 | brlcad | which is why we're a self-contained download |
| 13:13.57 | starseeker | heh |
| 13:14.12 | starseeker | yeah, hv3 isn't exactly "compile and go" unless I'm missing something |
| 13:14.33 | starseeker | hopes like hell we don't have to port all the hv3 code to itcl/itk to include it... |
| 13:19.54 | starseeker | alrightie, time to get in there |
| 13:22.01 | ``Erik | fs just came back up O.o |
| 13:22.59 | ``Erik | hm http://robotfest.com/ |
| 13:31.48 | CIA-73 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r38579 10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/clutter.c: Whoa, char blah[32]; snprintf(blah, 64, "..."); is way wrong. Adjust to use a single #define STRSIZ. |
| 13:31.59 | CIA-73 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r38580 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/mged/bindings.tcl: Removed the calls to focus for button presses. This gets us past the Mac input bug. The call to Tcl's focus should be fine here. So there's potentially still some weirdness between Tcl, X and the Mac. |
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| 14:20.55 | CIA-73 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r38581 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/tkhtml3/tclconfig/tcl.m4: deal with 64b mac's that are not G5's |
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| 15:33.38 | jdoliner | indianla1ry are you here? |
| 15:54.35 | prasad_ | brlcad, mustafa and alex |
| 15:55.10 | prasad_ | engr lead and civ4 lead |
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| 16:28.58 | indianla1ry | jdoliner: Hey Joe how's it going? |
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| 16:43.28 | jdoliner | indianla1ry: hiya, did you get the email I sent you a few days ago? |
| 17:15.31 | CIA-73 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r38582 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/ (metaball/metaball_tri.c nmg/nmg_tri_mc.c): use correct vertex/edge graphic in comments. |
| 17:22.31 | starseeker | ah, phew - looks like hv3 may include its own copies of what it needs for snit/etc |
| 18:12.51 | CIA-73 | BRL-CAD: 03r_weiss * r38583 10/brlcad/trunk/src/conv/obj-g_new.c: more refactoring to support all face types |
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| 19:19.41 | CIA-73 | BRL-CAD: 03indianlarry * r38584 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/vls.c: Added vls length check in bu_vls_trimspace(). Was getting occasional bu_bomb() from 'nirt' run within mged. Culprit was an all whitespace line being returned to mged by nirt. |
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| 19:31.23 | ``Erik | notes that src/conv/step/SdaiCONFIG_CONTROL_DESIGN.init.cc causes a compiler failure on 64b mac is both -gstab3 and -O[123]? are passed to it O.o change -O3 to -O0 or remove it... or change -gstab3 to -ggdb, and it's fine. :/ |
| 19:31.35 | ``Erik | at line 905 |
| 19:40.51 | ``Erik | -O3 with -gstabs2 fails, -gstabs1 succeeds, hrm |
| 19:50.11 | indianla1ry | jdoliner: Hey Joe, I did not get your email and can not currently access. I'll check after hours and follow up through email. |
| 20:26.42 | CIA-73 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r38585 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/archer/ (Archer.tcl ArcherCore.tcl): More wiring in of the new tree viewer, plus a little cleanup. |
| 20:39.32 | starseeker | can run hv3 with sqlite3, give or take a few tk complaints - now time to start chopping |
| 20:41.40 | CIA-73 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r38586 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/archer/images/ (102 files): Update images for Archer primitive display, add assembly and airregion images. |
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