| 00:01.56 | starseeker | O.o gdb bwish can't source archer, while plain bwish can |
| 00:02.00 | starseeker | what the bleep |
| 00:03.18 | CIA-42 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r41020 10/brlcad/branches/cmake/src/other/ (CMakeLists.txt incrTcl/iwidgets/CMakeLists.txt): Try Cmake version of iwidgets. |
| 04:04.39 | CIA-42 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r41021 10/brlcad/branches/cmake/ (CMakeLists.txt src/other/CMakeLists.txt): Couple of minor tweaks, and now able to generate Visual Studio files. Next step, see what fails to build. |
| 04:44.38 | CIA-42 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r41022 10/brlcad/branches/cmake/include/common.h: For whatever reason, ActiveState doesn't have this and the standard tcl sources do. Include it so we can build with ActiveState. |
| 05:15.11 | starseeker | well, a lot of projects fail (some that shouldn't) but getting somewhere |
| 05:34.26 | CIA-42 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r41023 10/brlcad/branches/cmake/CMakeLists.txt: Take care of an item I've let slide for a while - make sure the timestamp message is printed before ALL other targets, including the custom targets used for things like docbook handling and file generation. |
| 05:44.50 | CIA-42 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r41024 10/brlcad/branches/cmake/CMakeLists.txt: Oh yeah, probably don't want the debug message now. |
| 05:58.08 | CIA-42 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r41025 10/brlcad/branches/cmake/src/librt/CMakeLists.txt: More defines for librt. There are probably a fair number of these tucked in the windows build logic - probably will have to do a systematic sweep. |
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| 14:55.15 | brlcad | quite a productive weekend starseeker! |
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| 15:30.38 | ``Erik | <-- a bit boggled that Sarah puts up with it O.O |
| 15:32.24 | ``Erik | grumps at how "special" mac is at times :/ dlopen() issues, library location/version issues, ... |
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| 17:50.33 | starseeker | needs to figure out why regex is a problem with his CMake build... |
| 18:02.49 | ``Erik | O.o |
| 18:42.36 | starseeker | building it isn't a problem, but linking against it isn't going well and I'm not sure why |
| 18:43.47 | starseeker | wonders if he can just define _CONSOLE everywhere there are fb-* and pix-* binaries... |
| 18:46.02 | starseeker | more disturbing is archer crashing on my gentoo box with OpenGL complaints |
| 18:46.13 | starseeker | need to try a vanilla build and see if that's my fault or not |
| 18:46.41 | ``Erik | well, we all know gentoo sucks :D |
| 18:47.38 | starseeker | heh - not sure if my last nvidia driver upgrade did something wonky |
| 18:48.41 | starseeker | wants SO bad to do a tcl/tk CMake build, but after this last experience with configure.ac I now understand what a lot of those tests in the configure scripts are actually doing |
| 18:48.49 | starseeker | that'll make them harder for me to ignore |
| 18:49.56 | ``Erik | there's a lot of... special. it had to be dealth with. |
| 18:51.28 | starseeker | winces - looks like another KDE upgrade has appeared since my last update |
| 18:58.58 | CIA-42 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r41026 10/brlcad/branches/cmake/src/fb/CMakeLists.txt: As a first cut, try doing this define for all the framebuffer tools. |
| 19:10.05 | ``Erik | kde-- |
| 19:11.09 | louipc | ouch don't use kde |
| 19:11.36 | ``Erik | even qt is bad enough |
| 19:12.07 | louipc | wasn't the new gui going to use qt? hehe |
| 19:12.16 | ``Erik | qt+ogre, yes... |
| 19:12.21 | louipc | kewl |
| 19:12.32 | ``Erik | I haven't been subtle in my complaning. |
| 19:12.41 | ``Erik | anything that touches c++ has issues, imnsho |
| 19:13.00 | louipc | hah that's a lot of issues |
| 19:13.19 | ``Erik | working on another project that uses ogre and bullet... you cannot start to grok the level of bitching I've been shooting out |
| 19:14.05 | ``Erik | once you touch c++, you add a level of effort that typically dwarfs the core you're trying to use just to get it to talk |
| 19:14.37 | ``Erik | might as well be using haskell libraries for everything |
| 19:14.40 | louipc | what's bullet? |
| 19:14.58 | ``Erik | um, physics sweep engine by the guy who put together havok |
| 19:15.10 | ``Erik | it does things like contraints really well |
| 19:15.22 | ``Erik | http://bulletphysics.org/wordpress/ |
| 19:15.31 | louipc | well I guess if people expect c++ to be c then they might be disappointed |
| 19:15.34 | louipc | cool |
| 19:16.07 | ``Erik | C has a standard interface, c++ does not |
| 19:16.08 | louipc | pro stuff |
| 19:17.15 | ``Erik | trying to roll a game using bullet, ogre, ois, sbcl, etc... ralith is too lame to join me in it O.o |
| 19:18.05 | louipc | ah what kind of game? |
| 19:18.14 | ``Erik | 3rd person shooter, inspired by 'socom 2' |
| 19:18.27 | ``Erik | and mal is just all sorts of lame |
| 19:18.43 | louipc | nice |
| 19:19.06 | louipc | mal the 4 core, real-time rendering guy? |
| 19:22.21 | ``Erik | yes |
| 19:22.44 | ``Erik | 6 core now |
| 19:22.51 | louipc | I think it's funny how 4 core is not a big deal any more |
| 19:23.20 | ``Erik | I used to measure cpu's in kilohertz. |
| 19:24.05 | louipc | whoa cool look what I stumbled upon |
| 19:24.07 | louipc | http://www.gamedev.net/community/forums/topic.asp?topic_id=582629 |
| 19:24.52 | ``Erik | heh |
| 19:24.57 | ``Erik | yes. |
| 19:24.58 | ``Erik | that's us. |
| 19:26.51 | louipc | I can help with testing :D |
| 19:27.29 | ``Erik | heh, I'll probably be throwing out calls far and wide for alpha testing |
| 19:27.42 | ``Erik | which I think will be in the nest few weeks... |
| 19:27.57 | louipc | oh nice |
| 19:28.37 | louipc | hope you guys can find a publisher |
| 19:29.10 | ``Erik | I'm cool with indie |
| 19:29.34 | ``Erik | frankly, I can't see a publisher as anything but a liability these days |
| 19:29.58 | ``Erik | the best music is from indies, the best software is from indies, even movies are moving to indies |
| 19:30.35 | louipc | indie publisher? |
| 19:31.45 | louipc | it would take more than just development to get a game out there |
| 19:32.27 | ``Erik | yeh... *shrug* it'll be interesting :) |
| 19:33.16 | louipc | look forward to hearing more :D |
| 19:33.27 | ``Erik | trust me |
| 19:33.29 | ``Erik | you're on my list now |
| 19:33.34 | ``Erik | :> |
| 19:33.41 | louipc | hides |
| 19:39.45 | CIA-42 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r41027 10/brlcad/branches/cmake/src/ (conv/CMakeLists.txt util/CMakeLists.txt): Try stuffing in a couple more broad-brush defines - it's possible this won't work and I'll have to do per-target stuff, but trying to avoid it for now. |
| 19:53.03 | Ralith | ``Erik: it's by the havok guy? |
| 19:53.12 | Ralith | ``Erik: huh, what posessed him to switch to oss? |
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| 19:59.53 | starseeker1 | humph. almost tempting to try irssi on Windows, but their notion of a terminal is kinda... primitive |
| 20:00.31 | ``Erik | notta damn clue, but bullet is supposedly the hot wet nasty brainchild of the guy who was behind havok O.o |
| 20:02.35 | starseeker1 | ``Erik: is bullet pulling ahead as the general open source leader in its problem domain? |
| 20:03.31 | ``Erik | it seems so... there was discussion on how ode is a bit ahead on constraints, but bullet was in the process of overrunning it... and that was a few years ago |
| 20:03.50 | ``Erik | everyone seems to agree that it's the top dog in cd, even years ago |
| 20:05.03 | ``Erik | it might be useful to BRL-CAD... convex hull overlap, generalized constraints, ... |
| 20:05.25 | ``Erik | MIT license |
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| 20:07.00 | ``Erik | so ya missed all that |
| 20:07.47 | ``Erik | 16:02 < starseeker1> ``Erik: is bullet pulling ahead as the general open source leader in its problem domain? |
| 20:07.50 | ``Erik | 16:03 < ``Erik> it seems so... there was discussion on how ode is a bit ahead on constraints, but bullet was in the process of overrunning it... and that was a few years ago 16:03 < ``Erik> everyone seems to agree that it's the top dog in cd, even years ago |
| 20:07.54 | ``Erik | 16:05 < ``Erik> it might be useful to BRL-CAD... convex hull overlap, generalized constraints, ... |
| 20:07.57 | ``Erik | 16:05 < ``Erik> MIT license |
| 20:10.16 | starseeker2 | heh - thanks |
| 20:10.25 | starseeker2 | sorry, using pidgin on windows |
| 20:11.12 | louipc | starseeker2: irssi has a windows build that uses urxvt I believe |
| 20:12.33 | starseeker2 | nods - don't have any of the msys/mingw/cygwin setup present though - deliberately trying to be "pure" for the Windows build of BRL-CAD |
| 20:12.36 | starseeker2 | sucks |
| 20:13.15 | louipc | I don't think it requires cygwin |
| 20:13.25 | starseeker2 | urxvt is standalone? |
| 20:13.46 | louipc | yeah as far as I remember |
| 20:13.58 | starseeker2 | hmm |
| 20:14.19 | starseeker2 | if I'm compelled to spend a lot more time on this abomination, that might be worth checking out |
| 20:14.24 | louipc | it's all bundled up |
| 20:15.00 | starseeker2 | especially loves how the Microsoft banners are printed just before every project is compiled - even when compiling they spam |
| 20:15.23 | louipc | haha |
| 20:17.37 | ``Erik | you're using their spamware version... what'd you expect? |
| 20:19.24 | starseeker2 | <snort> yeah, I suppose. Maybe the version at work will do better |
| 20:30.04 | ``Erik | interesting, laurence fishburne, famous for being morpheus in the matrix trilogy, disowned his daughter because she decided to do porn O.o |
| 20:31.10 | louipc | also interesting is that she uses her real name, rather than a made up porn star name |
| 20:32.42 | ``Erik | indeed |
| 20:33.02 | ``Erik | may've been trying to wrangle 'daddys fame' |
| 20:33.12 | ``Erik | a la haris pilton |
| 20:34.36 | starseeker2 | huh, I'll be darned - there's a putty for unix |
| 20:39.43 | starseeker2 | sticks the build log in a pastebin and retreats to a sane OS to review it http://pastebin.ca/1965133 |
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