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| 15:04.44 | *** topic/#brlcad is BRL-CAD Open Source Solid Modeling || http://brlcad.org || logs: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23brlcad/ || BRL-CAD release 7.22.0 is forthcoming (eta: end of March) || BRL-CAD has applied to participate in GSoC 2012! |
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| 15:18.11 | CIA-128 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r50200 10/brlcad/branches/STABLE/misc/CMake/BRLCAD_CompilerFlags.cmake: Add the Wno-variadic-macros check to STABLE |
| 16:50.48 | CIA-128 | BRL-CAD: 03tbrowder2 * r50201 10/brlcad/trunk/regress/tgms/ars.cg: add a new comgeom target to test a specific comgeom-g failure discovered by a user |
| 16:52.09 | CIA-128 | BRL-CAD: 03tbrowder2 * r50202 10/brlcad/trunk/regress/comgeom.sh: modify comgeom-g test to use new tgm for a known target ars failure |
| 16:53.14 | CIA-128 | BRL-CAD: 03tbrowder2 * r50203 10/brlcad/trunk/src/conv/comgeom/solid.c: do not release ars curve memory memory unless there has been a mk_ars failure |
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| 18:34.35 | andrei_ | hello :) |
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| 18:56.51 | Stattrav | brlcad: thanks |
| 18:57.16 | Stattrav | shall get in touch with you tomorrow post the exam. |
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| 19:20.22 | cristina | hello |
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| 19:32.25 | crdueck | hello all |
| 19:34.31 | *** topic/#brlcad by brlcad -> BRL-CAD Open Source Solid Modeling || http://brlcad.org || logs: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23brlcad/ || Congratulations to our 11 accepted GSoC students!! |
| 19:36.35 | brlcad | howdy crdueck, andrei_, Stattrav, others |
| 19:38.00 | Stattrav | brlcad: hey as it turns out you are not the mentor :) |
| 19:38.10 | Stattrav | i thought you were |
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| 19:39.21 | crdueck | is mentor info on the google-melange site? i'm waiting for the traffic to die down before i try it again |
| 19:39.45 | andrei_ | indeed the traffic is almost dos-ing the page |
| 19:40.02 | Stattrav | crdueck: the site is back up |
| 19:43.01 | starseeker | growls and puts on his debugging hat - r48553 introduced some sort of problem into rtedge when -c "set oo=all.g/component" is fed as an option... |
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| 19:50.01 | kane_ | Hi |
| 19:56.33 | Al_Da_Best | 11, certainly aiming big :o Thanks :) |
| 19:59.24 | cristina | thank you for the acceptance and congrats to everyone! |
| 20:05.56 | kane_ | It's great to be a part of brlcad. Thank you for this opportunity! |
| 20:08.45 | brlcad | Stattrave: this goes for all projects -- the listed mentor is only the person that evaluates your progress |
| 20:09.05 | brlcad | the technical guidance and mentoring is done by all developers here and on the mailing list |
| 20:09.36 | brlcad | the listed mentor tracks your progress and makes sure you're working (since they're the ones that might fail you from the program) |
| 20:10.59 | andrei_ | Thank you for the opportunity of participating in GSoC 2012. Also, congratulations to everyone! |
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| 20:29.47 | brlcad | starseeker: 48553? really? |
| 20:31.12 | starseeker | yeah... binary tested and narrowed it down to that |
| 20:31.50 | brlcad | that's a bit surprising, that should have been logically equivalent |
| 20:32.01 | brlcad | do you have a stack trace? |
| 20:32.19 | brlcad | is it crashing or just changed behavior? |
| 20:32.24 | starseeker | changing behavior |
| 20:32.35 | starseeker | hang on - I'll put together a pastebin with what I'm seeing |
| 20:34.39 | kane__ | ehm, Daniel what is you irc nickname? |
| 20:35.11 | brlcad | that's odd, rtedge doesn't perform any mappedfile code dire\ctly |
| 20:36.28 | brlcad | I would have expected the tests to fail |
| 20:37.36 | starseeker | crud |
| 20:37.44 | starseeker | hang on, may have had some static files lingering |
| 20:38.55 | stas_ | hey guys congrats for accepted students, cristina and andrei_ keep it up! :) |
| 20:39.24 | andrei_ | thank you stas_! |
| 20:39.45 | cristina | thanks, stas_ :) |
| 20:40.02 | brlcad | kane__: daniel is usually d_rossberg here but he's on vacation at the moment |
| 20:40.18 | brlcad | ~seen d_rossberg |
| 20:40.34 | ibot | d_rossberg <~rossberg@BZ.BZFLAG.BZ> was last seen on IRC in channel #brlcad, 11d 3h 18m 33s ago, saying: 'they told me at 5 that they won't come today but tomorrow :('. |
| 20:40.34 | kane__ | oh ok thank you. |
| 20:41.10 | brlcad | ah, not entirely true .. last *spoke* 11 days ago, but was just online a couple hours ago |
| 20:41.13 | brlcad | 11:39 -!- d_rossberg [~rossberg@BZ.BZFLAG.BZ] has quit [Quit: leaving |
| 20:41.48 | kane__ | than i will speak with him about our daily meetings if he is back. |
| 20:41.50 | brlcad | kane__: keep in mind that your listed mentor is just for evaluating progress, not necessarily for technical direction |
| 20:41.56 | brlcad | we do group mentoring as much possible |
| 20:42.49 | starseeker | yeah, that was it... was able to flip the change on and off: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1591647 |
| 20:43.15 | starseeker | note the db_lookup failure in 48553 |
| 20:44.14 | kane__ | brlcad: but we have to report our daily work to our mentor? |
| 20:45.24 | starseeker | kane__: which proposal was yours? |
| 20:49.14 | brlcad | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:49.41 | starseeker | appreciate it - it's a kink in the rtwizard work at the moment... |
| 20:50.09 | brlcad | kane__: yes, but you're reporting your activity to all developers, not just your assigned mentor |
| 20:51.05 | brlcad | what you'll coordinate with your assigned mentor are any vacations/holidays or unanticipated leave |
| 20:53.29 | brlcad | if you disappear for more than two days, especially if it's not over a weekend, they should know why |
| 20:56.00 | brlcad | kane__: I recommend keeping an irc conneted all the time |
| 20:56.10 | brlcad | screen+irssi ftw |
| 20:56.44 | brlcad | even if you're not "here" and your IRC client is, we can respond to you and you can read the response whenever you get back |
| 20:58.15 | brlcad | kane__: so the most pressing issue for you is to start working on patches, getting them reviewed, so you can get commit access established |
| 21:04.52 | brlcad | that's really the most pressing issue for most students, actually, and getting familiarized with BRL-CAD tools |
| 21:05.31 | brlcad | starseeker: he's the display manager |
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| 21:11.51 | brlcad | hello Neil___ |
| 21:12.12 | Neil___ | hi Sean! |
| 21:12.39 | Neil___ | 11 to BRL-CAD? |
| 21:12.44 | brlcad | congratulations (I hope) :) |
| 21:13.01 | brlcad | yeah, we gave a few back |
| 21:13.11 | Neil___ | oh, but that's brilliant! |
| 21:13.19 | Neil___ | and yeah, I got into NRNB :) |
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| 21:41.12 | CIA-128 | BRL-CAD: 03tbrowder2 * r50204 10/brlcad/trunk/regress/ (CMakeLists.txt comgeom.sh tgms/ars.cg tgms/cgtest.cg): replace ars.cg with a comgeom tgm that has all primitives recognized by vdeck for a more robust comgeom-g conversion test |
| 21:44.23 | Stattrav | oh I get it :) |
| 21:45.05 | Stattrav | aah I use irccloud :) |
| 21:45.23 | Stattrav | btw congratulations to the rest of the participants as well. |
| 21:45.50 | Al_Da_Best | Likewise :) |
| 21:48.47 | cristina | thank you Stattrav, congratulations to you as well |
| 21:49.59 | brlcad | Neil___: you would have certainly had more fun working on BRL-CAD and reached a much wider audience, but hope you have a good time with NRNB regardless</joke> :D |
| 21:51.00 | brlcad | Stattrav: ah, that's good |
| 21:51.05 | Stattrav | brlcad: my assigned mentor is on the irc as well ? |
| 21:51.27 | brlcad | not that I'm aware of, so you should use the mailing list |
| 21:51.36 | brlcad | or here of course |
| 21:51.58 | Stattrav | <joke> eitherway the mentors could add the participants to their google latitude to keep track of them ;) </joke> |
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| 21:53.58 | brlcad | Neil_: crdueck: andrei_: cristina: Al_Da_Best: Stattrav: I'll be sending out an e-mail later today or tomorrow, but the next steps are to 1) compile & install BRL-CAD, 2) become familiar with the basics of code your project interacts with, and 3) obtain commit access |
| 21:54.32 | brlcad | more specifically documented on the checklist: http://brlcad.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code/Checklist |
| 21:55.39 | brlcad | spread the word to your fellow gsocers and help each other as you become familiarized, ask questions |
| 21:55.42 | Neil_ | brlcad: wrt the "joke" - haha, well I'm sure I would have. Hopefully next time :) But I definitely want to contribute and will try my best over the summer. |
| 21:56.32 | brlcad | cool |
| 21:57.40 | Stattrav | part 1 done. |
| 21:57.55 | Al_Da_Best | brlcad: Sounds good. Can I ask how many slots BRL-CAD originally got, just out of interest? |
| 21:58.16 | Stattrav | Need to talk *a lot* to you folks about the rest of them though |
| 21:59.05 | Stattrav | eitherway, got to get back to sleep. |
| 21:59.50 | brlcad | Al_Da_Best: you can ask, but it's not really relevant |
| 21:59.52 | brlcad | as an experienced returning org, we got what we asked for |
| 22:00.08 | cristina | brlcad: ok. 1) has to be redone in my case and to get starrted on the other 2 steps |
| 22:00.21 | Al_Da_Best | Fair enough |
| 22:00.29 | brlcad | we have a pretty good handle on how many good proposals we received, how much mentoring resources you all are going to drain, etc ;) |
| 22:01.02 | brlcad | so we accepted fewer than we have capacity for, though not by too much |
| 22:01.33 | brlcad | we were able to accept everyone that clearly made a good effort on their proposal (plus a couple that will need to step up their game) |
| 22:02.00 | brlcad | cristina: yep, you're not alone -- there are several that reliaed on the vm disk image |
| 22:02.43 | brlcad | nothing wrong with that actually, you could use that all summer but it's generally recommended to go through the full build for your own environment just to become familiar with everything more intimately |
| 22:02.46 | Al_Da_Best | Glad to hear it :) I'll check my compile tomorrow, I did get it sorted through VS2010 though |
| 22:02.56 | brlcad | we did a lot of stuff for everyone in the VM image setup-wise |
| 22:03.11 | cristina | brlcad: I started first with the compiled and installed BRL-CAD but after a few weeks I kept getting an error that I couldn't resolve. I'll look into it and see what I can do. |
| 22:03.43 | brlcad | if any of you run into build problems -- investigate and see if you can fix it, that's a perfect succinct patch submission and will get you one step closer to #3's commit access |
| 22:04.07 | Stattrav | So, one could actually note all the non-trivial points where the compilation fails and put it up on the wiki (mostly dependancy fails) |
| 22:04.28 | Stattrav | atleast that is what I've experienced |
| 22:05.03 | brlcad | Stattrav: so with dependency failures there's a couple things to note |
| 22:05.08 | brlcad | or at least questions to ask |
| 22:05.15 | brlcad | 1) is it a required dependency? |
| 22:05.28 | brlcad | if it's not, the build shouldn't have gotten as far as it did |
| 22:06.16 | brlcad | if it's not technically required but assumed and recommended, maybe cmake should make that more clear (or test for it) |
| 22:06.19 | Stattrav | Eitherway, I plan on reinstalling my entire machine once ubuntu 12.04 gets released. Feels odd going from Gentoo -> Debian -> Ubuntu. Things one has to do for out of the box powermanagement |
| 22:06.25 | Stattrav | aah yes |
| 22:06.42 | brlcad | 2) is it documented? required and recommended packages should be documented (doc/README.Linux for example) |
| 22:06.54 | Stattrav | sure I could take this up if that be the case |
| 22:07.07 | brlcad | in almost all cases, it's not required |
| 22:07.12 | Stattrav | I could do that this weekend once I am done with all the cases |
| 22:07.21 | Stattrav | s/cases/exams/ |
| 22:07.37 | brlcad | for example, we "should" build just fine even if you had no X11 installed ... but that very VERY rarely gets tested so it's sometimes not working |
| 22:08.06 | brlcad | still, you want X11 too, so cmake should test for it and the libs it's expecting (like libXi, libXt) and be very noisy when they're not found |
| 22:08.17 | Stattrav | yup |
| 22:08.53 | brlcad | a good way to test it is to take a fresh checkout, move your X11.h system header and try to build .. see if it succeeds (it should) and fix wherever it's broken |
| 22:09.19 | brlcad | then do the same with a fresh build where X11.h is properly there, but Xi.h isn't or libXi.so isn't etc |
| 22:09.26 | Stattrav | yup |
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| 22:09.46 | brlcad | again, fixing any issues or warnings that need to be issued, but letting the build proceed without a *build* failure |
| 22:09.49 | Stattrav | I remember installing X11 libs when the compilation failed but did not investigate it closely |
| 22:10.07 | brlcad | no reason the build should fail except for maybe no compiler or no libc ;) |
| 22:10.13 | Stattrav | yup |
| 22:11.18 | Stattrav | now that happens to be my warm up job eh ? I shall be on it towards 29th and 30th |
| 22:13.01 | brlcad | it's a good place to start |
| 22:14.20 | brlcad | most build system failures are "basic understanding" of how compilation and linkage work -- one just has to learn how certain build properties are being defined (which in our case is CMake macros/logic) |
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| 23:02.40 | starseeker | brlcad: were you able to reproduce the rtedge issue? |
| 23:06.40 | starseeker | Al_Da_Best: you compiled BRL-CAD using VS2010? |
| 23:59.35 | CIA-128 | BRL-CAD: 03tbrowder2 * r50205 10/brlcad/trunk/src/conv/comgeom/solid.c: ws |