IRC log for #brlcad on 20121130

00:03.50maths22brlcad: By the way, when the website was copied from the original server, hidden (dot) files were not copied.  Links do not work on the new site, in part becasue I do not believe .htaccess copied.
00:11.21lachlanpwhat is the Notify thing?
00:11.28lachlanpor who if needed
00:11.52lachlanpseems to be pulling comments from task on the gci site
00:12.31*** join/#brlcad maths22 (~maths22@c-50-141-159-74.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
00:21.43lachlanpi'm having a bit of trouble with buffers
00:21.53lachlanpis the standard way to allocate a buffer on the stack to do:
00:22.00lachlanpchar expected_buf[BUFFER_SIZE];
00:22.05lachlanpinside the function?
00:22.32lachlanpbecause for some reason, its got a '2' (char) at the first position, and i'm not touching it
00:22.46lachlanpi can ever print it out straight after its declared and its still got it
00:22.50*** join/#brlcad archivist (~archivist@host81-149-189-98.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
00:23.04lachlanpafter a memset(expected_buf, 0, BUFFER_SIZE) its all nulls...
00:23.07lachlanpany ideas?
00:25.12``Erikyes, that's how to allocate on the stack, and the contents are not set on allocation
00:25.17lachlanpah
00:25.29lachlanpthought it was initialised
00:25.38lachlanpis memset the preferred way then?
00:25.44lachlanp(even though it shouldn't need to be done)
00:25.47Notify03GCI: Melange has left the following comment at Write BRL-CAD News article on .deb/.rpm builds http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7945213:   No more Work can be submitted  Melange has detected that the deadline has passed and no more work can be submitted. The submitted work should be reviewed.  
00:25.57lachlanp(...through what i'm doing to it)
00:25.59``Eriksome compilers will initialize for you, but it's not part of the language spec and a lot of compilers turn it off for release builds
00:26.05lachlanpok
00:26.15``Erikmemset is a good way to 0 it out, if needed
00:26.20lachlanpok
00:27.15lachlanpthanks
00:27.34``Erikand notify is a bot that msg's gci changes, commit messages, etc, yes :)
00:27.40lachlanpok :-)
00:29.25lachlanpcan i allocate a buffer with a variable size or is it determined at compile time...
00:29.26lachlanpeg
00:29.37lachlanpchar *buf[argc-1]; ?
00:31.08``Erikhas to be static, if you want runtime size selection, allocate off the heap
00:31.20lachlanp<PROTECTED>
00:31.26lachlanpfor my unit test
00:32.06``Erikthe compiler should throw an error about size unknown at compile time
00:32.16Notify03GCI: Douangtavanh Kongphaly has left the following comment at Upgrade Mediawiki website http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7974236:   Task Claimed  I would like to work on this task.  
00:32.38lachlanpis heap allocation recommended sorry
00:33.15``Erikyeah, malloc() and free()
00:33.19lachlanpok
00:33.41lachlanpprobably not necessary... just an array of integers (point set) that will generaly be less than 20
00:51.03lachlanpi miss exceptions from java... all i get in C is "SegFault" :-)
00:52.02lachlanpand stdout doesn't show up in the test output
00:55.17Notify03GCI: Cezar has left the following comment at Set up SvnPlot http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8016209:   Ready for review  The work on this task is ready to be reviewed.  
00:58.27Notify03GCI: Cooshinator has left the following comment at Close MGED when both windows are closed http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7945212:   Claim Removed  The claim on this task has been removed, someone else can claim it now.  
00:58.41caen23brlcad: i found a way to make the process faster, by mirroring the repo on the machine that's going to run svnplot. in around 3h i got 13k commits. not awesome, but definitely better. the instructions might be a bit verobse, and might get in the way, so let me know if they need rework. the most important part is the one about mirroring the repo. also, i haven't tried doing it on windows, so that's not documented
00:58.50*** join/#brlcad bhlegm (~bhlegm@d108-180-27-19.bchsia.telus.net)
00:59.16starseekerbrlcad: here's the link for the primitive figures stuff:  http://bzflag.bz/~starseeker/gci_primitive_figures/
01:02.12lachlanpis there no way of speeding up the config step of the build (i know it only happens when i change a CMakeLists.txt)
01:04.19*** join/#brlcad Skriptkid (~Skriptkid@117.202.99.127)
01:06.05SkriptkidCould anybody tell me at what time reviewing starts and ends?(Along with time zone)
01:07.33lachlanpreviewing of your task work?
01:08.14SkriptkidYep
01:08.29``Erikplastic on mars, huh O.o
01:08.36lachlanpi guess sometime after you submit it and when they are available...
01:09.04``ErikSkriptkid: most reviewers are in the US, at least one in europe, so daytime hours for those places
01:10.50Skriptkid<PROTECTED>
01:11.26Skriptkid(Upload again, in case there has been any problem uploading the file)
01:11.40lachlanpwhat sort of tasks are you doing?
01:11.54lachlanplike coding or documentation etc
01:12.14Skriptkiddocumentation. Moving comments in LIBWD.
01:12.19lachlanpok
01:12.43starseekermakes a note of this to consider for later, if the qmlogre approach doesn't pan out: http://www.ogre3d.org/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php?page=Ogre+overlays+using+Qt
01:14.37starseekerbetter formatting: http://www.ogre3d.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=70171
01:14.48lachlanpi've got my test for tp_i2list passing
01:15.00lachlanpwith a null point, 1 point, 2 points and 4 points
01:15.29lachlanpnow to extend it to the other functions i guess
01:15.40lachlanpis that what i'm supposed to do?
01:16.55lachlanpdo i need to test the fortran ones (is that even possible)
01:19.42Notify03GCI: Will Bensky has left the following comment at Add missing documentation (for any ONE command) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7972228:   Task Claimed  I would like to work on this task.  
01:24.57*** join/#brlcad Skriptkid (~Skriptkid@117.202.99.127)
01:26.14lachlanpany ideas on the best way to do the multiple function tests? should i have an extra argument to the test that specifies which function?
01:26.27lachlanpor use one set of inputs and test all the functions in one go
01:27.14*** part/#brlcad Skriptkid (~Skriptkid@117.202.99.127)
01:29.51lachlanpfor now i'll just go with the one set of inputs tests all functions
01:37.13*** join/#brlcad maths22 (~maths22@c-50-141-159-74.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
01:43.32*** join/#brlcad Skriptkid (ljrpiq@69.41.182.135)
01:55.57lachlanphi, is there any way of getting the 'make test' to show the stdout output?
02:11.42*** join/#brlcad maths22 (~maths22@c-50-141-159-74.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
02:34.02Notify03GCI: BrendenD15 has left the following comment at Compile BRL-CAD on Windows using Cygwin http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7972239:   Thanks   I'm working on setting up my computer tonight. Tomorrow I will begin compiling the code and documenting the results. I do have to add, though, that I'm not running a standard version of Windows. I am using the release preview of Windows 8....
03:33.32starseeker``Erik: maybe the mars thing will finally convince slashdot to get an editor...
03:56.22Notify03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 53904 brlcad/trunk/misc/CMake/test_srcs/termlib.c.in: Interesting - clang static analysis saw the unused result assignment in the CMake test, when CMake was run using scan-build.
04:02.00Notify03GCI: Will Bensky has left the following comment at Add missing documentation (for any ONE command) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7972228:   Help?   I downloaded the latest version of BRL-CAD and whenever I try to enter any of the commands above, it comes up with an error. I am doing something wrong? Am I not entering the commands in the right place? Thanks.  
04:03.00Notify03GCI: Lachlan P has left the following comment at Create numerics library (LIBBN) API unit test ... for list.c http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8000211:   Testing Fortran   Hi,  Do I have to test the fortran functions (is that possible in C?) - the only difference between the Fortran and not is that the Fortran ones take float arguments instead of doubles, but the code is essentially
04:03.01Notifythe...
04:03.15Notify03GCI: Harmanpreet Singh has left the following comment at Add missing documentation (for any ONE command) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7972228:   Task Assigned  This task has been assigned to Will Bensky. You have 48 hours to complete this task, good luck!  
04:03.25lachlanp...the code is essentially the same.
04:04.40Notify03GCI: Harmanpreet Singh has left the following comment at Upgrade Mediawiki website http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7974236:   Task Assigned  This task has been assigned to Douangtavanh Kongphaly. You have 72 hours to complete this task, good luck!  
04:13.00Notify03GCI: Richard Akira Heru has left the following comment at Model a "D" using BRL-CAD http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8012208:   Ready for review  The work on this task is ready to be reviewed.  
04:19.10Notify03GCI: Sean has left the following comment at Upgrade Drupal website http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7958216:   Task Assigned  This task has been assigned to Jacob B. You have 72 hours to complete this task, good luck!  
04:28.01brlcadlachlanp: he meant to say bu_malloc() and bu_free()
04:28.26lachlanpok
04:28.46lachlanpi didn't use that anyway... an array of ints ~20 long isn't much
04:29.52lachlanpbtw do i test the Fortran list functions?
04:29.57lachlanpor just the C ones?
04:34.45lachlanpi'm having a bit of trouble with the 'marker' function
04:34.57lachlanptp_2mlist
04:35.15lachlanpdoes it draw characters? or something else
04:37.52lachlanpok have found out a bit more
04:45.49lachlanpanyone around?
04:46.39lachlanpi don't know quite what to do for the tp_2mlist, which plots a line and puts markers along it
04:46.56lachlanpif got the line plotting turned off (simple flag) so it only draws the markers
04:47.07lachlanpi don't know how to validate the markers... they are rather complex
04:47.55brlcadlachlanp: which fortran ones? (probably not)
04:48.04lachlanpin list.c
04:48.09lachlanptheres functions like:
04:48.16lachlanpvoid
04:48.17lachlanpPL_FORTRAN(f2list, F2LIST)(FILE **fpp, float *x, float *y, int *n)
04:49.02lachlanpthe code for it has some extra stuff at the start, but is the same as the regular C one except for the floats/doubles
04:49.30Notify03GCI: Moin Nadeem has left the following comment at Set up Jenkins continuous integration for BRL-CAD http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7952233:   Home Directory doesn't exist   For some reason my home directory (/home/{myusername}) doesn't exist, and I cannot create it due to write permissions. I am going to the right place, correct? (cd ~ also leads there.)  
04:49.36brlcadyeah, considering they're redundant, not necessary
04:49.40lachlanpok thanks
04:49.48lachlanpwhat about the marker one?
04:50.09lachlanpi don't really understand the output of that one
04:51.55brlcadwhat do you mean?
04:52.05lachlanptp_2mlist
04:52.14brlcada marker is just a character
04:52.17lachlanpit plots a line And draw markers
04:52.34lachlanpyeah... i'm not sure if i'm doing this right but i'm comparing the plot commands outputed
04:53.03lachlanpwhen the marker is draw it seems to do a lot of line moving etc
04:53.29brlcadit's drawing the symbol, so yeah, it'll be a lot of stuff potentially
04:53.49lachlanpi'm not sure how to validate that stuff
04:53.59lachlanpeven when I choose '+' it does a lot
04:54.09lachlanpfrom here: http://www.gnu.org/software/plotutils/manual/en/html_node/Marker-Symbols.html#Marker-Symbols
04:54.14lachlanpi presume its the same
04:55.00brlcadit's very similar
04:55.04brlcadours is much older :)
04:55.12lachlanp:-)
04:55.14lachlanpok
04:55.18brlcadthat's some of the oldest code in brl-cad, goes to the 70's
04:55.40lachlanpso is there anything different for me?
04:55.56brlcadwell, plenty is different from that web page, but not relevant
04:56.09lachlanpok
04:56.10brlcadit's just plotting text
04:56.14brlcador other symbols
04:56.24lachlanpkind of font rendering
04:56.29brlcadbut you don't even really need to know that to test it
04:56.40brlcadbasically, very primitive form of font rendering
04:56.47lachlanpok
04:57.25brlcadso first to consider is whether the function returns anything
04:57.34brlcadin this case, I think that's a no seeing as it's a void function
04:57.49brlcadso then you just have to consider the parameters, identify which are inputs and outputs
04:57.53lachlanpyep
04:58.06lachlanpso far i've been creating a memory file
04:58.12lachlanpand getting it to plot into that
04:58.16starseekerbrlcad: nevermind about the clang static analyzer - I'm building it now
04:58.27brlcadI see three pointers, so the first thing I do is test combinations of null pointers for each of those
04:58.29lachlanpthen working out what it should be myself
04:58.42lachlanpthen doing strcmp between them
04:58.44lachlanpyep
04:58.49brlcadthen you just go down the list, make a call of the function and see if the rest is what is expected
04:59.09brlcadfour int values
04:59.25brlcadwhat happens when they're negative, zero, positive
04:59.37lachlanpok
04:59.53lachlanpmy problem i guess is how to check if it IS correct
05:00.07brlcadwell not crashing is always good
05:00.18lachlanpi'm writing this in a general way... so it can be configured in CMakeLists.txt - should that be my aim or not?
05:00.22lachlanpyeah ok :-)
05:00.49brlcadwell it's also writing values to those int pointers
05:00.54brlcadso you could check for non-zero
05:01.16brlcadthat's a fine aim
05:01.19lachlanpits writing to x and y?
05:01.26lachlanpthought it just read from them
05:01.54brlcadmaybe it does
05:02.00lachlanpah
05:02.06lachlanpyou want me to ENSURE it doesn't
05:02.20brlcadnot really
05:02.35brlcadthe general idea is just to make sure the function seems to be well-behaved
05:02.55brlcadI'd be surprised if you couldn't get it to crash myself
05:03.03lachlanpok
05:03.06brlcadas that's common for code that doesn't have an existing unit test
05:03.23lachlanpa crash will result in SegFault or someting?
05:03.51lachlanpnvrmind will try myself ;-)
05:04.19brlcadshould
05:04.29brlcadso since your only output seems to be that file pointer
05:04.56brlcadthe only way you can test is to create a file, run the function, and observe whether the file changes
05:05.13lachlanpfor the other functions i've been validing what gets written to it
05:05.14brlcadsome inputs should result in no file change, some should
05:05.23lachlanpok
05:05.30brlcadeven better, but just checking it at a high-level is fine
05:05.36brlcadyou don't want tests to be too sensitive
05:05.40lachlanpyeah
05:05.56lachlanp:-( can't do for(int i = 0; i < ...; i++) ?
05:06.05lachlanp"'for' loop initial declarations are only allowed in C99 mode"
05:07.34brlcadsimple example: less ../libbu/tests/bu_str_isprint.c
05:08.05brlcadthe contained test_str_isprint() function passes in the "expected" result for that input and that is checked
05:09.03lachlanpwhat these generate is several lines of stuff
05:09.04brlcadyou can do something similar where the expected result is whether the file contains at least x plot lines, for example, or even a simple 0|1 whether the file got bigger or similar
05:09.10lachlanpah ok
05:09.14lachlanp:-)
05:10.35lachlanpno segfault... for each argument going from -5 to 5
05:10.39lachlanppity
05:10.45lachlanpbut a lot of output
05:11.55Notify03GCI: Sean has left the following comment at Set up Jenkins continuous integration for BRL-CAD http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7952233:   fixed   Fixed.  
05:14.42bhlegmbrlcad can u make me a database, and also a user for it
05:14.54Notify03GCI: Sean has left the following comment at Add missing documentation (for any ONE command) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7972228:   yes   Yes, you're doing something wrong. If you download and install BRL-CAD, you'll have to add our installation bin directory to your PATH. That's a fundamental command line concept worth reading up on:...
05:15.17lachlanpthanks brlcad btw :-)
05:17.18brlcadbhlegm: which task?
05:17.28brlcadjenkins?
05:17.38brlcadlachlanp: np
05:17.59brlcadoh, now this is going to be a fun task for someone
05:18.04bhlegmpiwigo
05:18.25brlcad's friend set up a remote login to a Raspberry Pi
05:18.39brlcadgetting brl-cad to compile on that should be fun
05:18.46bhlegmthats funny
05:18.50brlcadbhlegm: ah, okay
05:19.24brlcadbhlegm: created
05:19.35brlcad'piwigo'
05:19.54bhlegmusername and pass is same as my always?
05:21.01lachlanphaha
05:21.20lachlanpgota find someone with it i guess
05:22.28brlcadbhlegm: nope
05:23.23brlcadlachlanp: find someone with what?
05:23.35lachlanpa raspberry pi
05:23.47lachlanpor find an emulator
05:23.54brlcadhe's provided his for us to use
05:23.58lachlanpok
05:24.00brlcadput it on the net
05:24.04lachlanpah
05:24.07lachlanpsorry
05:24.18brlcadso whomever claims the task will be able to just log in and give it a try
05:24.26brlcadi'm tempted to do it myself!
05:24.38lachlanp:-)
05:24.45brlcadbut it's a perfect task, it'll be interesting
05:25.03bhlegmim gonna get one for christmas :) if it comes by then xD
05:25.16lachlanphow much is a standard brlcad installation weigh?
05:25.26brlcadabout 4 lbs
05:25.58lachlanpwhats 4 pounds in MB?
05:26.27lachlanpif its not on the top of your head that fine
05:29.50brlcadtoo many variables
05:30.01brlcadit can be 250MB, it can be 2500MB
05:30.08lachlanpok
05:30.13brlcadusually somewhere in between
05:30.30brlcadless if you strip everything
05:42.20Notify03BRL-CAD:jordisayol * 53905 (brlcad/trunk/misc/debian/icons/128x128/brlcad-mged.png brlcad/trunk/misc/debian/icons/16x16/brlcad-mged.png and 6 others): Update Linux icons
05:42.47*** join/#brlcad harmanpreet (~chatzilla@202.164.53.117)
05:46.27lachlanpok i've written a test for each function that is not fortran in list.c
05:46.32lachlanpand they all pass
05:47.31lachlanpso now i need to create a patch
05:47.39lachlanpmake sure it passes on a clean svn checkout
05:47.42lachlanpand make sure it builds?
05:48.02lachlanp...and tests
05:49.37lachlanpi need to run 'svn add src/libbn/tests/bn_list.c' as well don't i
05:49.51lachlanpotherwise it doesn't appear in the diff
05:52.34Notify03GCI: Harmanpreet Singh has left the following comment at Model a "D" using BRL-CAD http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8012208:   Task Closed  Congratulations, this task has been completed successfully.  
06:20.15starseekerbrlcad: if it's of interest, here are the steps to use clang's static analyzer when building BRL-CAD:
06:20.19starseekerhttp://bzflag.bz/~starseeker/clang-static.txt
06:24.52starseekerbrlcad: here's what one of the report pages looks like:  http://bzflag.bz/~starseeker/clang-analysis_src_libged_wdb_bigE_report.png
06:28.34starseekerbrlcad: not sure what to make of the report... considering it reports >3k issues, more than 2k of which are dereferencing of null pointers, I guess my initial response is "skeptical"
06:30.15starseekerbrlcad: it does generate these report pages though, so maybe it can tell us something useful...
06:30.38starseeker(whole output is 142 megs compressed for reports)
06:31.50Notify03GCI: Dr Coconut has left the following comment at NURBS BibTeX reference file http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8009209:   Ready for review  The work on this task is ready to be reviewed.  
07:14.56Notify03GCI: Sean has left the following comment at Convert Gallery to Piwigo http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7991207:   Deadline extended  The deadline of the task has been extended with 2 days and 0 hours.  
07:16.11Notify03GCI: Sean has left the following comment at Investigate GMP integration http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7946218:   Task Closed  Congratulations, this task has been completed successfully.  
07:16.31Notify03GCI: Teepen has left the following comment at Create prototype 2D CAD drawing(s) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7985229:   Ready for review  The work on this task is ready to be reviewed.  
07:17.26Notify03GCI: Sean has left the following comment at Move comments from source to header files ... move LIBRT comments for files beginning with 'q' through 'z' http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8026204:   Task Closed  Congratulations, this task has been completed successfully.  
07:20.57Notify03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 53906 brlcad/trunk/AUTHORS: credit Dimitar with his GCI task contribution moving code comments from source to header files for librt q-z files (http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8026204 and sf patch 3591089)
07:34.36*** join/#brlcad harmanpreet (~chatzilla@202.164.53.117)
07:50.58harmanpreetbrlcad: as it is clearly mentioned in the task description at http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7974231 that one needs to compare BRL-CAD with CATIA, SolidWorks etc but the student who claimed the task has chosen other softwares.  Also he/she has not separated linux/solaris/bsd as other configurations. So I think, more work is needed. Rest you decide.
08:07.59brlcadharmanpreet: I agree with that assessment
08:12.54lachlanpjust submitted my task results
08:23.37harmanpreetbrlcad: but you expressed in one of your comments as you are going to close the task.
08:25.18*** join/#brlcad archivist (~archivist@host81-149-189-98.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
08:31.01harmanpreetbrlcad: ok.. :)
09:17.04*** join/#brlcad Al_Da_Best (Al_Da_Best@cpc2-shep12-2-0-cust21.8-3.cable.virginmedia.com)
09:47.32*** join/#brlcad Skriptkid (~Skriptkid@117.202.108.67)
10:04.02*** join/#brlcad caen23 (~caen23@92.81.193.169)
10:05.38*** join/#brlcad Skriptkid (~Skriptkid@117.202.108.67)
10:14.42*** join/#brlcad Skriptkid (~Skriptkid@117.202.108.67)
10:21.09*** join/#brlcad jasleen (~chatzilla@202.164.53.117)
10:21.33jasleenhi harman
10:22.19jasleenI had downloaded brlcad package
10:23.25jasleenhow to install it?
10:30.47harmanpreetI suppose you downloaded a debian package on Ubuntu 12.4, if that is the case, just go and double click the package. Later you will need to change the path settings of your system to make mged able to run on your system.
10:30.49harmanpreetYou can also check: http://brlcad.org/xref/source/INSTALL for detailed information about installation depending upon what you downloaded.
10:33.24harmanpreetand yes, you are welcome to ask questions from anyone on this channel. :)
10:34.04jasleenYes. I had downloaded debian package
10:34.19jasleenand I have ubuntu 12.04
10:34.29jasleennice guess :)
10:34.44jasleenThanks for help
10:34.55jasleenI am going to try this
10:57.55*** join/#brlcad KOKO_ (~KOKO@101.78.11.194)
11:04.23KOKO_brlcad: How can i access webhost?
11:19.36*** join/#brlcad andrei_ (~andrei_@188.25.160.152)
11:21.46*** join/#brlcad harmanpreet (~chatzilla@202.164.53.117)
11:28.30KOKO_Are you here brlcad:?
11:29.06brlcadgot to be more patient than that
11:40.15KOKO_brlcad: ok
11:54.13Notify03BRL-CAD Wiki:98.234.4.242 * 4686 /wiki/A_Survey_of_Implicit_Constraints_in_Primitives: /* rhc (Right hyperbolic cylinder) */ Added additional constraints to the RHC. Not sure about "c > 0", though.
11:54.14Notify03GCI: Nikolay Ivanov has left the following comment at Design a "Commercial CAD Comparison" diagram http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7974231:   NOTE!   this is the original file I made it on paint and no where in the task description does it say to have editable parts so I believe my task is finished this is the only file. So I would appreciate much if you just approve my done work :).  
11:54.15Notify03GCI: Nikolay Ivanov has left the following comment at Design a "Commercial CAD Comparison" diagram http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7974231:   Ready for review  The work on this task is ready to be reviewed.  
11:54.16Notify03GCI: Nikolay Ivanov has left the following comment at Design a "Commercial CAD Comparison" diagram http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7974231:   also   no where is said on what to create this diagram so this also removes the option with editable part :).  
11:54.17Notify03GCI: Matt S. has left the following comment at Create prototype 2D CAD drawing(s) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7985229:   Task Needs More Work  One of the mentors has sent this task back for more work. Talk to the mentor(s) assigned to this task to satisfy the requirements needed to complete this task, submit your work again and mark the task as complete once you re-submit your
11:54.18Notifywork....
11:54.19Notify03GCI: Matt S. has left the following comment at Create prototype 2D CAD drawing(s) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7985229:   Needs More Work   I think you may be close, but I say may because I'm not sure what I'm actually looking at. That is, there needs to be (at the very least) some elaboration as to what the .pdf files are supposed to be in relation to the task.  I will admit that
11:54.20NotifyI...
11:54.21Notify03GCI: Lachlan P has left the following comment at Create numerics library (LIBBN) API unit test ... for list.c http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8000211:   Ready for review  The work on this task is ready to be reviewed.  
11:54.22Notify03GCI: Lachlan P has left the following comment at Create numerics library (LIBBN) API unit test ... for list.c http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8000211:   Review:   Hi,  It might need a bit of cleanup to meet your standards.  Thanks, Lachlan  
11:54.23Notify03GCI: Richard Akira Heru has left the following comment at Implement a primitive volume function ... for right hyperbolic cylinders (RHC) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7960224:   Task Claimed  I would like to work on this task.  
11:54.24Notify03GCI: Harmanpreet Singh has left the following comment at Implement a primitive volume function ... for right hyperbolic cylinders (RHC) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7960224:   Task Assigned  This task has been assigned to Richard Akira Heru. You have 72 hours to complete this task, good luck!  
11:54.25Notify03GCI: Ashish has left the following comment at Reorganize MGED menu http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8030206:   Task Claimed  I would like to work on this task.  
11:54.26Notify03GCI: Harmanpreet Singh has left the following comment at Reorganize MGED menu http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8030206:   Task Assigned  This task has been assigned to Ashish. You have 48 hours to complete this task, good luck!  
11:54.27Notify03GCI: reikaze has left the following comment at Compile BRL-CAD using the Intel Compiler http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7982222:   Task Claimed  I would like to work on this task.  
11:54.28Notify03GCI: Ambar Pal has left the following comment at Move comments from source to header files ... move LIBRT comments for files beginning with the letter 'd' http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8001215:   Ready for review  The work on this task is ready to be reviewed.  
11:54.29Notify03GCI: stefi.stoyanova has left the following comment at Convert 38 src/fb man pages to valid Docbook http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8030204:   Ready for review  The work on this task is ready to be reviewed.  
11:54.30Notify03GCI: reikaze has left the following comment at Compile BRL-CAD using the Intel Compiler http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7982222:   Claim Removed  The claim on this task has been removed, someone else can claim it now.  
11:54.31Notify03GCI: reikaze has left the following comment at Remove (void) before sscanf/scanf/fprintf/printf/bu_log function calls http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7985235:   Task Claimed  I would like to work on this task.  
12:26.54*** join/#brlcad Skriptkid (wfafcv@app7.chatmosphere.org)
12:36.05*** join/#brlcad andrei (~andrei@188.25.160.152)
12:36.18andreihello
12:56.18*** join/#brlcad Troublesome (~Troubleso@dc060-181.pppoe.dc-sofia.net)
13:08.54*** join/#brlcad KOKO_ (~KOKO@101.78.11.194)
13:11.19KOKO_brlcad: what is more information to do my task?
13:12.06andreiKOKO_, what task do you have?
13:12.25*** join/#brlcad KOKO__ (~KOKO@101.78.11.194)
13:13.13KOKO__andrei http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7974236
13:13.56andreiyou might need to wait for brlcad, but I ll have a look, perhaps I can help
13:14.28andreiah, it's the mediawiki. Then you have to speak with him, sorry:)
13:17.01TroublesomeHey i have this problem with CMake
13:17.03TroublesomeCMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:462 (_message):
13:17.03Troublesome<PROTECTED>
13:17.22Troublesomewhen i try to configure for Borland compiler
13:17.29Troublesomeany ideas how to fix it?
13:20.20andreiI think the issue is with some preprocessor directives
13:20.24andreiBut I'm not sure
13:21.12*** join/#brlcad d_rossberg (~rossberg@BZ.BZFLAG.BZ)
13:22.43andreiTroublesome, what is at line 462 in that CMakeLists
13:24.26andrei?
13:25.03TroublesomeTrying to find CMakeLists
13:25.32andreiUhm, CMakeLists exist in each folder
13:25.53*** join/#brlcad KOKO__ (~KOKO@101.78.11.194)
13:26.06*** join/#brlcad KOKO__ (~KOKO@101.78.11.194)
13:28.12Troublesomei have thousands of those CMakeLists files
13:28.26Troublesomeand i don't know where i have to look
13:29.38Troublesomeok i think i found it
13:29.54Troublesomethe CMakeLists.txt in the source folder of BRLCAD
13:29.55Troublesomeso
13:29.59Troublesomeline 462
13:30.12Troublesome_message(${ARGN})
13:30.44Troublesomebut i think it has to be only message
13:30.45Troublesomeif(NOT BRLCAD_IS_SUBBUILD)
13:30.46Troublesome<PROTECTED>
13:30.46Troublesome<PROTECTED>
13:30.46Troublesome<PROTECTED>
13:30.46Troublesome<PROTECTED>
13:30.46Troublesome<PROTECTED>
13:30.46Troublesomeendif(NOT BRLCAD_IS_SUBBUILD)
13:31.00Troublesomewhen i try to change it to message
13:31.12Troublesomeand try to configure in CMake
13:31.16Troublesomeit just crashes
13:31.18Troublesome:(
13:32.16andreiI found the code, now, what did you try to change?
13:33.31andreior it doesn't compile like this?
13:33.43Troublesome_message(${ARGN}) this line
13:34.00Troublesomewhen i write only message(${ARGN})
13:34.08Troublesomewithout the underscore
13:34.15TroublesomeCMake crashes
13:34.23Troublesomewhen i try to configure
13:34.52Troublesomeor generate
13:35.10andreiand underscore in front of the function means it is a function that should not be used outside, a convenience function
13:35.15andreiThat's probably the reason it crashes
13:35.35andreiin front of the function name, to be more precise.
13:35.58andreibut I am not sure why do you want to change that
13:36.28Troublesomewell then the problem might be at ARGN?
13:37.36Troublesomebut CMake tells that (_message) might be the problem
13:39.18andreiI am not very familiar with CMake so I can't see your issue too easily. To me, the _message(${ARGN}) just outputs the number of arguments
13:39.30andreiI mean, that s what I think it does
13:44.05Troublesomei also get this
13:44.06TroublesomeCall Stack (most recent call first):
13:44.07Troublesome<PROTECTED>
13:44.47KOKO__brlcad I'am waiting so long
13:46.27Troublesomeif(TIME_RESULT MATCHES "^0$")
13:46.31Troublesomethis fails
13:49.22*** join/#brlcad KOKO_ (~KOKO@103.1.30.244)
13:50.50andreiTroublesome, I can't help you, sorry :(
13:52.03*** join/#brlcad maths22 (ada798d1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.167.152.209)
14:02.11Troublesomei hope Sean can help...
14:15.47*** join/#brlcad YEAHBUDDY (~Troubleso@dc060-181.pppoe.dc-sofia.net)
14:18.11*** join/#brlcad Dimitar (~dborisov@78.128.70.201)
14:24.24Dimitarhttp://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7985228 is this only about designing the spreadsheet or do I have to literally fill it with over 700 commands ?
14:26.18KOKO_brlcad are you here?
14:27.50*** join/#brlcad harmanpreet (~chatzilla@124.253.75.135)
14:32.16*** join/#brlcad Skriptkid (pnylcs@69.41.182.138)
14:35.41*** join/#brlcad Skriptkid (~Skriptkid@117.202.108.67)
14:46.10starseekerWhenever someone can talk to Troublesome - the failure is not in the bit of CMake code he was trying to change
14:47.10starseekerthe timing code is located in misc/CMake/test_srcs/ - the time*.c.in and builddelta*.c.in files
14:47.39starseekersomething about those files is apparently making the Borland compiler unhappy
14:48.56starseekerIf he looks in the CMakeTmp, he will see the .c versions of those files configured for his machine - time.c, timedelta_start.c, builddelta_start.c, etc.
14:51.01*** join/#brlcad Ashish101 (75c229bd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.117.194.41.189)
14:52.03Ashish101Anyine here can help
14:52.28Ashish101i want a vedio tutoriol on brlcad !!
14:52.36Ashish101please help i want to lean it
14:53.43Ashish101anyone ??
14:54.01Ashish101@brlcad @ChanServ ``Erik Al_Da_Best andrei archivist Ashish101 caen23 crdueck d_rossberg DarkCalf Dimitar dtidrow harmanpreet ibot kanzure KimK KOKO_ louipc maths22 n_reed Notify starseeker YEAHBUDDY yiyu
14:54.33archivistyou will not get help that way
14:55.36caen23Ashish101: i've also tried finding a video tutorial, but i haven't had much luck. a good starting point would be reading the getting started doc that comes with BRL-CAD
14:55.49caen23also, i believe a video tutorial would make for a nice gci task
14:56.36Ashish101Whats whar i am doing but a vedio could have helped more As they PDF is dealing with the old version and only code basesd not the GUI
14:56.59Ashish101YA sure for those who know it
14:57.04Ashish101What ur task
14:57.22Ashish101MOne is t o make  a goog\d review of its GUI menus
14:59.42*** join/#brlcad Skriptkid (~Skriptkid@117.202.108.67)
15:00.24YEAHBUDDYStarseeker
15:00.43*** join/#brlcad Troublesome (~Troubleso@dc060-181.pppoe.dc-sofia.net)
15:00.51Troublesomehey starseeker
15:01.07Troublesomeif the problem i cant even get to compiling with borland
15:01.20Troublesomei can't generate the files i need with CMake
15:09.31``ErikTroublesome: http://paste.lisp.org/display/133983
15:09.35Troublesomealso the files you mentioned,I can compile them with CodeBlocks
15:19.47Ashish101I am  learning it
15:19.59Ashish101i had maede a file called mantank.g
15:20.17Ashish101Not working ?? Why ?? when i reopen it from file !! :()
15:26.18brlcadalrighty, who's here waiting on a task to be reviewed?
15:28.44brlcadTroublesome: need to know why the code to determine the current date and time failed?
15:28.50brlcads/?/./
15:29.31Troublesomei am here
15:29.35Troublesomewell
15:29.43Troublesomehow should i fix this
15:30.20brlcaddid you see his note about CMakeTm?
15:30.29Troublesomestarseeker said that something is wrong with the files he mentioned above but i can compile them with Codeblock fot example
15:30.32Troublesomeyes
15:30.35Troublesomei saw those files
15:30.39Troublesomei compiled them
15:30.44brlcadwith borland?
15:30.50Troublesomesuccessfully
15:31.03brlcadusing the same options cmake is using?
15:31.55Troublesomewell with borland it does not compile actually
15:31.59Troublesomeonly with CodeBlocks
15:32.37Ashish101@brlcad: I am using it in windows -- Its buggy !!  Do u suggest me to use it in Ubuntu ??
15:34.26brlcadTroublesome: and why does it not compile?
15:35.42Skriptkid@Ashish101: Linux is always better for development
15:35.47brlcad``Erik: you ready to let other projects start using Notify?
15:36.06brlcad``Erik: there's nine other orgs that might be interested in notifications
15:36.07Troublesome18 errors... the compiler can't even find the header files like "stdio.h" and "time.h"
15:36.11brlcadSkriptkid: he left
15:36.34Skriptkidoh. okay :-$
15:37.29*** part/#brlcad Dimitar (~dborisov@78.128.70.201)
15:37.39*** join/#brlcad Ashish101 (75c229bd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.117.194.41.189)
15:37.59caen23brlcad: i am waiting on review :D svnplot one
15:38.01brlcadTroublesome: that sounds like you've either not installed or set up the compiler properly
15:38.06brlcadcaen23: link?
15:38.16caen23http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8016209
15:38.47``Erikbrlcad: yes, if they're willing to bee alpha testrss
15:39.10brlcadcaen23: what's the -js one?
15:39.22brlcad``Erik: okay, I'll let 'em know :)
15:39.42caen23brlcad: you can generate graphs using either a js lib or matplotlib, which outputs pngs
15:39.45brlcadSkriptkid: you can ask that here, I just asked who is waiting
15:40.18brlcadsorry it's taken so long
15:40.32brlcadwe try to get through them as fast as possible, but we are also allowed 36 hours
15:41.05brlcadnot all mentors are as available as others and different days of the week will result in different review times (heck different times of day)
15:41.23brlcadokay
15:41.26brlcad(ca
15:41.30brlcad(caen23)
15:42.23SkriptkidNo problem :) Also, could you tell me at what time mentors will be mostly available(in your time zone or UTC), so that I can work and submit at that time and get the tasks assigned faster?
15:43.16*** join/#brlcad KOKO_ (~KOKO@103.1.30.197)
15:43.42caen23brlcad: no problem, it's been awesome so far
15:45.21*** join/#brlcad Skriptki_ (~Skriptkid@117.202.108.67)
15:45.59brlcadcaen23: nicely done -- so what are your impressions on those two different methods?
15:46.12brlcadapologies if that's in your write-up, but I'm looking for subjectivity
15:46.23brlcadSkriptkid: it's way too variable :)
15:46.38Skriptkidok :) Anyway, thanks :)
15:46.53brlcadSkriptkid: i'm obviosly usually pretty active but also juggling a lot of things going on -- if you get my attention at the right time, it's done
15:47.00brlcadget someone else, same result
15:47.15brlcadthere are multiple mentors assigned to each day of the week
15:47.40SkriptkidSo I can ask for assignment or review of tasks?
15:47.50caen23brlcad: matplot seems to be shorter in size, and more accurate as far as i can see, but js is a nice touch. but really, if you're trying to decide over a stat tool to use, i wouldn't go for svnplot :D it's a bit old, and slow, and it took some research to set it up :-?? perhaps i could have been faster (this is the first time i've used svn), but i think there should be better tools available
15:48.00KOKO_brlcad how can i access webhost?
15:48.01brlcadso just don't submit on that same day next time ;)  ...in all honesty, though, it was just a really busy day for reviews yesterday and we ran out of time
15:48.20brlcadSkriptkid: if you're polite about it and not annoying like some have already been lately...
15:48.39brlcadKOKO_: i'll get you set up
15:48.43SkriptkidLOL :) I'll keep that in mind ;)
15:48.43brlcadKOKO_: in PM
15:49.07KOKO_brlcad ok
15:49.08brlcadKOKO__: have you set up mediawiki before?
15:49.29brlcadand have you upgraded it before?
15:49.41KOKO_nope but another drupal, wordpress, joomla
15:50.02brlcadcaen23: yeah, the js looked outright busted here
15:50.07*** part/#brlcad Skriptkid (~Skriptkid@117.202.108.67)
15:50.11brlcadsome of the graphs were okay, but most were horked
15:50.33brlcadand seemed slower responsiveness since it was all on the fly
15:50.53*** join/#brlcad Skriptkid (~Skriptkid@117.202.108.67)
15:50.53brlcadKOKO_: you've done upgrades for those?
15:51.19KOKO_brlcad yes
15:52.38caen23brlcad: i had the same impressions
15:53.20brlcadcaen23: so how long did it take for it to get to 1997?
15:53.31brlcaddidn't even get to the most interesting years... :)
15:53.37Ashish101brlcad: Please smone help --- u see i made a file in archer and now whenever i open it in mged or archer it just loads a blank screen where as the archer shows property tree for all objects !!
15:53.56brlcadand it looks like it has the same bug that statcvs had ... there wasn't 2.5 million lines of code by then
15:53.58caen23brlcad: i don't know if you've read my longer comment here the other night :D let me paste it again
15:54.21caen23brlcad: i found a way to make the process faster, by mirroring the repo on the machine that's going to run svnplot. in around 3h i got 13k commits. not awesome, but definitely better. the instructions might be a bit verobse, and might get in the way, so let me know if they need rework. the most important part is the one about mirroring the repo. also, i haven't tried doing it on windows, so that's not documented
15:54.22caen23[02:58am]
15:54.39brlcadAshish101: mged doesn't display geometry when you open a databse, it just opens the database
15:54.46brlcadif you want to display something, you have to tell it to
15:55.02brlcadsee the Geometry Browser or the "tops" command and the "draw" command
15:56.06brlcadcaen23: I did see that
15:56.16brlcadis 13k commits to 1997?
15:56.26caen23yes
15:57.07Ashish101OKkk brlcad: Thanks it workx  :)
15:57.11caen2313.5k… march 20, 1997
15:58.32brlcadokay, so it'd probably take around 12 hours to do the whole repo
15:58.35brlcaddamn that's slow
15:58.51brlcadwish I could remember how long statcvs took
15:59.09brlcadokay, well we'll see how that compares to the other tool, svnplot
16:00.22caen23i've let it run for the whole repo outside this task, and i'll upload the end results if you want. the most time-consuming part is downloading the commit info with `svnsync`. conversion to sqlite is faster, less than 1h for the whole repo
16:00.28brlcadSkriptkid: url
16:01.07brlcadcaen23: sure, can make a task to upload the end results to the website
16:01.42brlcadmaybe setting up a cron job so it rebuilds the results once a week if we like it more than svnplot
16:02.23caen23brlcad: you mean more than statcvs? :D
16:02.36brlcadno, there's a second svn plotting task
16:03.09brlcadsry, statsvn and svnplot
16:03.15caen23brlcad: but it's taken, right?
16:03.19brlcaddo you know of any others?
16:03.37caen23i don't, but i could look into it
16:04.18brlcadyeah, the other one is taken
16:05.35Troublesomebrlcad: CMake Error: Error required internal CMake variable not set, cmake may be not be built correctly.
16:05.35TroublesomeMissing variable is:
16:05.35TroublesomeCMAKE_RC_COMPILE_OBJECT
16:05.45caen23brlcad: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13039/is-there-a-tool-that-can-display-a-svn-repository-visually-i-e-pretty-charts
16:05.46Troublesomethis is the problem
16:05.47Troublesomei have now
16:06.22Troublesomei can't find this variable in CMake how to set it mannualy
16:06.43brlcadTroublesome: so after you go mucking about editing CMakeLists.txt files, it's not productive to help you with random errors like that
16:06.51*** join/#brlcad maths22 (~maths22@173-167-152-209-illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net)
16:06.58brlcadhave you build cleanly with cmake and some other compiler?
16:07.09brlcadyou should do that first if you haven't
16:07.23brlcadonce that's working, then point it at the borland compiler without editing anything
16:08.51Troublesomenow i have no problem with borland
16:08.55Troublesomeit works
16:09.02Troublesomebut when trying to generate in CMake
16:09.05Troublesomei get this error
16:09.15Troublesomeand there is no option to set this variable
16:10.38brlcaddid you read what I wrote? :)
16:10.45brlcadnone of that matters if you edited anything
16:11.02brlcadbecause it's not productive to diagnose a completely unknown starting point
16:11.38brlcadhave you build cleanly with cmake and gcc?
16:11.48brlcadwhat platform are you on?
16:11.50Troublesomei haven't edited anything
16:12.00Troublesomejust fixed the borland
16:12.06Troublesomeand now the problem is only with CMake
16:12.15brlcaddude, seriously
16:12.28brlcadthat's twice you've ignored my question
16:12.49brlcadI can't help you if you don't give me these bits of information :)
16:13.10Troublesomeit can build cleanly with CMake
16:13.15Troublesomethat's what i am telling you
16:13.32brlcadyou have built cleanly with cmake AND gcc?
16:13.38Troublesomebut i think i made it to build right :D
16:13.43brlcadcmake doesn't "build"
16:13.54Troublesomeit generetes files i know
16:13.58brlcadyou have built cleanly with cmake AND gcc?
16:14.04brlcadthis is going to get old
16:14.11brlcadyes or no is all i'm looking for?
16:14.21Troublesomeyes and no :D
16:14.28brlcadalright, you're on your own, good luck
16:14.37Troublesomejust fixed the error in CMake
16:14.43Troublesomenow will try to compile with Borland
16:14.46Troublesomeand finish the work
16:19.57Ashish101What does this error  mean ??
16:20.29Ashish101Cant read tree mode list   no such variable wen trying to create a sphere
16:21.42Ashish101Or anyother shape in Archer ........
16:22.00Ashish101Please help  anyone @bclcad :
16:24.06brlcadAshish101: archer is in a pre-alpha state so it's not going to be entirely error-free to use
16:24.21brlcadwe're actually going to upload a task to try to get it to crash here soon
16:24.44brlcadAshish101: try using mged -- the docs will be able to help you there more
16:24.54brlcadparticularly the quick-reference sheet
16:25.04brlcad``Erik: notify has gone silent
16:25.23brlcadhugs Notify
16:26.22Ashish101KK
16:27.53brlcadunless you're working on a task that specifically called for doing something in archer of coruse :)
16:27.54*** join/#brlcad Nikolay (Nikolay@77.70.66.28)
16:28.00Nikolayhello all
16:28.19Nikolaysean I would like to apologise personaly to you for my behaivior yesterday
16:28.29Nikolayi am sorry for being such a little b*tch
16:28.35Nikolayi hope you forgive me :)
16:28.43Nikolayi am really sorry ;(
16:30.24*** join/#brlcad Skriptkid (~Skriptkid@117.202.108.67)
16:31.49caen23brlcad: i'm currently trying https://github.com/karenc/svn_branch_graph it's easier to set up and has a web interface (you can point it to localhost), but i think it's still going to take a lot of time
16:32.30caen23oh, and it doesn't seem to be verbose, so i don't know how far i am
16:38.00*** join/#brlcad Skriptkid1 (~Skriptkid@117.202.108.67)
16:39.26Troublesomeanother problem now this time while compiling with borland
16:39.37TroublesomeError E2075: Incorrect command line option: -fp:strict
16:41.27*** part/#brlcad Skriptkid1 (~Skriptkid@117.202.108.67)
16:52.23andreithis task has it's deadline passed and we haven't reviewed yet
16:52.25andreihttp://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7945213
16:52.53andreiIt's the interview with Jordi so I'm not sure how to evaluate it
16:53.36Notify03BRL-CAD:bob1961 * 53907 brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/archer/BotEditFrame.tcl: Minor update to add the bot name to the upper panel.
16:53.40Notify03BRL-CAD:bob1961 * 53908 (brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/archer/Archer.tcl brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/archer/ArcherCore.tcl and 2 others): This is the initial code to edit sketches in Archer. Still more to do. Checking in for safety.
16:53.45Notify03BRL-CAD:d_rossberg * 53909 brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/pipe/pipe.c: quell some "variable ?\226?\128?\152xyz?\226?\128?\153 set but not used" errors
16:53.50Notify03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53910 brlcad/trunk/src/archer/TODO: add that extra 'm' to what apparently should be AnimMate
16:53.55Notify03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 53911 brlcad/trunk/src/liboptical/sh_light.c: clean up logic for readability, remove empty if/else
16:53.57Notify03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53912 (brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/mann/en/Introduction.xml brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/mann/en/edit_translate.xml brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/mann/en/handle.xml): remove trailing blanks/tabs
16:53.59Notify03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 53913 (brlcad/trunk/include/wdb.h brlcad/trunk/src/libwdb/bot.c and 10 others): apply skriptkid patch from GCI task http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8025209 that moves libwdb comments from source to header while cleaning up along the way. thanks!
16:54.02Notify03GCI: Andrei Popescu has left the following comment at Remove (void) before sscanf/scanf/fprintf/printf/bu_log function calls http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7985235:   Task Assigned  This task has been assigned to reikaze. You have 72 hours to complete this task, good luck!  
16:54.03Notify03GCI: Andrei Popescu has left the following comment at Create numerics library (LIBBN) API unit test ... for list.c http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8000211:   Issues   I have applied the patch on my localhost and I seem to get a lot of errors, could you please drop on IRC to solve the issues.  
16:54.05Notify03GCI: Andrei Popescu has left the following comment at Create numerics library (LIBBN) API unit test ... for list.c http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8000211:   Task Needs More Work  One of the mentors has sent this task back for more work. Talk to the mentor(s) assigned to this task to satisfy the requirements needed to complete this task, submit your work again and mark the task as...
16:54.06Notify03GCI: Melange has left the following comment at Move comments from source to header files ... move LIBRT comments for files beginning with the letter 'd' http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8001215:   No more Work can be submitted  Melange has detected that the deadline has passed and no more work can be submitted. The submitted work should be reviewed.  
16:54.07Notify03GCI: Silvrous has left the following comment at Add a primitive surface area function ... for polyhedron with 4 to 8 sides (ARB8) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8028203:   one more thing   I think the arb8 volume function might be wrong. For calculating the base area, it uses the cross product of (OB-OA)X(OC-OA) = ABXAC, but that gives twice the actual area of the triangle ABC,
16:54.08Notifyiirc....
16:54.08Notify03GCI: Dimitar Borisov has left the following comment at Compile BRL-CAD using the Intel Compiler http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7982222:   Task Claimed  I would like to work on this task.  
16:54.09Notify03GCI: Dimitar Borisov has left the following comment at Compile BRL-CAD using the Intel Compiler http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7982222:   Claim Removed  The claim on this task has been removed, someone else can claim it now.  
16:54.10Notify03GCI: Su Chang ko has left the following comment at Set up StatSVN http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8013211:   Ready for review  The work on this task is ready to be reviewed.  
16:54.11Notify03GCI: Anshul has left the following comment at Close MGED when both windows are closed http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7945212:   Task Claimed  I would like to work on this task.  
16:54.12Notify03GCI: Harmanpreet Singh has left the following comment at Close MGED when both windows are closed http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7945212:   Task Assigned  This task has been assigned to Anshul. You have 48 hours to complete this task, good luck!  
16:54.13Notify03GCI: Anshul has left the following comment at Close MGED when both windows are closed http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7945212:   Claim Removed  The claim on this task has been removed, someone else can claim it now.  
16:54.14Notify03GCI: Ashwin Lokkur has left the following comment at Implement a primitive centroid function ... for polyhedron with 4 to 8 sides (ARB8) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7959221:   Claim Removed  The claim on this task has been removed, someone else can claim it now.  
16:54.15Notify03GCI: Ashwin Lokkur has left the following comment at Implement a primitive centroid function ... for polyhedron with 4 to 8 sides (ARB8) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7959221:   Task Claimed  I would like to work on this task.  
16:54.16Notify03GCI: Ashwin Lokkur has left the following comment at Implement a primitive centroid function ... for polyhedron with 4 to 8 sides (ARB8) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7959221:   Claim Removed  The claim on this task has been removed, someone else can claim it now.  
16:54.17Notify03GCI: Ashwin Lokkur has left the following comment at Implement a primitive centroid function ... for polyhedron with 4 to 8 sides (ARB8) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7959221:   Sorry   I couldn't work on the task... I had my exams coming up :(  
16:54.18Notify03GCI: fernozzle has left the following comment at Implement a primitive centroid function ... for extruded bitmaps (EBM) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7998216:   Task Claimed  I would like to work on this task.  
16:54.19Notify03GCI: Harmanpreet Singh has left the following comment at Implement a primitive centroid function ... for extruded bitmaps (EBM) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7998216:   Task Assigned  This task has been assigned to fernozzle. You have 72 hours to complete this task, good luck!  
16:54.20Notify03GCI: Titi has left the following comment at Compile BRL-CAD using the Intel Compiler http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7982222:   Task Claimed  I would like to work on this task.  
16:54.21Notify03GCI: Harmanpreet Singh has left the following comment at Compile BRL-CAD using the Intel Compiler http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7982222:   Task Assigned  This task has been assigned to Titi. You have 72 hours to complete this task, good luck!  
16:54.23Notify03GCI: Sean has left the following comment at Set up SvnPlot http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8016209:   Task Closed  Congratulations, this task has been completed successfully.  
16:54.23Notify03GCI: Willie Zhu has left the following comment at Implement a primitive volume function ... for hyperboloids of one sheet (HYP) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8009213:   Task Claimed  I would like to work on this task.  
16:54.24Notify03GCI: Sean has left the following comment at Set up StatSVN http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8013211:   Deadline extended  The deadline of the task has been extended with 0 days and 8 hours.  
16:54.25Notify03GCI: HS Rai has left the following comment at Implement a primitive volume function ... for hyperboloids of one sheet (HYP) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8009213:   Task Assigned  This task has been assigned to Willie Zhu. You have 72 hours to complete this task, good luck!  
16:54.26Notify03GCI: Sean has left the following comment at Move comments from source to header files ... move LIBWDB comments http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8025209:   Task Closed  Congratulations, this task has been completed successfully.  
16:54.27Notify03GCI: Sean has left the following comment at Move comments from source to header files ... move LIBWDB comments http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8025209:   fantastic   I haven't tried compiling yet, but the patch looks fantastic. That's for the detailed notes on what you did too. Wasn't entirely keen on the libwdb/ prefix on the @file blocks, because we'll probably have to remove
16:54.28Notifythose,...
16:54.29Notify03GCI: Melange has left the following comment at Model a "C" using BRL-CAD http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7971228:   Task Reopened  Melange has detected that the final deadline has passed and it has reopened the task.  
16:54.30Notify03GCI: Sean has left the following comment at Move comments from source to header files ... move LIBWDB comments http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8025209:   and I see that we already did   I thought I'd already added you, but I guess I mis-spelled your nickname looking for you. You're credited, Akshay. :)  
16:54.31Notify03GCI: Su Chang ko has left the following comment at Set up StatSVN http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8013211:   My Work is Wrong..?   I submit My Works.  But Deadline Extended....? Why..?  
16:54.32Notify03GCI: Skriptkid has left the following comment at Move comments from source to header files ... move LIBWDB comments http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8025209:   Thanks :)   For listening on IRC and revieweing :) I can remove the prefix and submit a new patch, if you'd like. Shouldn't be really tedious.  
16:54.33Notify03GCI: dmusan has left the following comment at Create an awesome screenshot http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8019211:   Hello   Last time the raytrace crashed. I think it was because my laptop couldn't handle it, but now I when I tried to raytrace it again it didn't work any more... and I also tried on anther computer, so I will upload the schreenshot as it is. I will also upload the
16:54.34Notify.g...
16:54.35Notify03GCI: Edward Kalfov has left the following comment at Compile BRL-CAD on Windows using the Borland Embarcadero Compiler http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7955216:   Claim Removed  The claim on this task has been removed, someone else can claim it now.  
16:54.36Notify03GCI: dmusan has left the following comment at Create an awesome screenshot http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8019211:   Ready for review  The work on this task is ready to be reviewed.  
16:54.37Notify03GCI: Cezar has left the following comment at Decouple LIBDM from LIBGED http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8017204:   Task Claimed  I would like to work on this task.  
16:54.38Notify03GCI: Harmanpreet Singh has left the following comment at Decouple LIBDM from LIBGED http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8017204:   Task Assigned  This task has been assigned to Cezar. You have 48 hours to complete this task, good luck!  
16:55.07brlcadNikolay: I certainly appreciate that you recognize the counterproductivity
16:55.08brlcadI know you're eager to get tasks done, but for us it's not so much about the tasks as it is the interaction with you
16:56.18brlcadstudents that are difficult to interact with make taking the time to review, integrate, and ultimately put their work onto a global showcase a challenge
16:56.44brlcadis surprised notify didn't get flood-kicked for that much that quickly..
16:57.24Notify03GCI: Teepen has left the following comment at Create prototype 2D CAD drawing(s) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7985229:   Thanks!   Thank you for the tips.  
16:57.34andreiindeed,  Google Code - in isn't about solving as many tasks as possible but rather integrating into the community, also, I have seen you are worried about running out of tasks. I can assure you that there is plenty stuff to be done and we will keep adding tasks :)
16:57.47Nikolayi wasnt myself yesyerday had so much things going on
16:57.53Nikolayi wasnt thinking straight
16:57.56Nikolayi am sorry
16:58.01Nikolayi hope you will forgive me
16:58.35brlcadlet's just move forward and see how things go
16:58.52brlcadso another mentor had a problem with your task
16:58.52andrei<PROTECTED>
16:59.02*** join/#brlcad Skriptkid (~Skriptkid@117.202.108.67)
16:59.40Nikolaywhat seems to be the problem?
16:59.46brlcad(especially after you got obstinant about the task not specifying editability..)
16:59.55brlcadit didn't specify all those CAD packages you chose
17:00.11brlcadso pedantically speaking, the task as written is incomplete
17:00.41brlcadas it asks for those five specifically
17:00.50Nikolayi know this morning when i wrote this comment my teacher made me mad i again i started doing stupid things again
17:01.17Nikolayso i have to make everything from 0 again ;( ?
17:01.18brlcadhe was also concerned that you also didn't expand the other operating systems
17:01.29Notify03GCI: Skriptkid has left the following comment at Add a primitive surface area function ... for hyperboloids of one sheet (HYP) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7983225:   Task Claimed  I would like to work on this task.  
17:01.41Nikolayum I did ? yesterday I googled everyone of the CAD's if it runs on them
17:01.57brlcadSkriptkid: so that's a tough one
17:02.08brlcadjust beware ;)
17:02.09Notify03GCI: Sean has left the following comment at Add a primitive surface area function ... for hyperboloids of one sheet (HYP) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7983225:   Task Assigned  This task has been assigned to Skriptkid. You have 72 hours to complete this task, good luck!  
17:02.47brlcadnikolay: those all run on a BSD system?  I find that shocking if true
17:03.04Nikolayno
17:03.07SkriptkidI'm good with structures and pointers and okay with geometry. Will need help along the way :)
17:03.13brlcadNikolay: therein is the problem
17:03.28Nikolayo well with the last line about linux/bsd/solaris
17:03.42NikolayI put a tick if a CAD is running on atleast 1 on them
17:03.56Nikolayi believe this is what makes the confusion
17:03.59brlcadwhich is cheating from our perspective
17:04.19Nikolayok I am getting it fixed gonna make 2 more lines for BSD and Solaris
17:04.22brlcadunfair to us, we put a lot of effort to work on everything everywhere, they don't
17:04.47brlcadideally, linux would be expanded to a variety of distributions too
17:04.52brlcadbut I wasn't going to go there
17:04.57Nikolayokay
17:05.04Nikolayi will fix in no time
17:05.06Nikolayand upload it
17:05.49brlcadI will leave it up to the other mentor to decide whether to accept it or not
17:06.05brlcadat this point, he's the unbiased 3rd party
17:06.26Nikolaybtw should I fix the linus/solaris/bsd section or no?
17:06.36Nikolaybefore you leave it up to the other mentor
17:07.03brlcadgiven that was two of the concerns he called out, you decide
17:07.20Nikolay100% gonna be fixed then
17:08.21brlcadI just won't be extending the time any further, and someone else will have to finalize the review
17:09.09brlcadperhaps you will be able to move on to a less subjective task next
17:09.40brlcadcan you still upload files when it's in a needing review state?
17:10.04Nikolaylet me check
17:10.12Nikolayyes i can upload
17:10.18Nikolayi need 10 more mins and I am ready
17:10.30Nikolaythe checking on which CAD runs on solaris/bsd is the tough part here
17:12.54Notify03GCI: Melange has left the following comment at Create prototype 2D CAD drawing(s) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7985229:   Task Reopened  Melange has detected that the final deadline has passed and it has reopened the task.  
17:14.32*** part/#brlcad Skriptkid (~Skriptkid@117.202.108.67)
17:15.31*** join/#brlcad Skriptkid (~Skriptkid@117.202.108.67)
17:15.43Notify03GCI: Sean has left the following comment at Move comments from source to header files ... move LIBWDB comments http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8025209:   not worth it   It's not worth the time to make and review a patch for that. If you keep working on good code changes and get commit access granted, you can directly fix the files yourself.  
17:15.52``Erikhm, maybe a second expanded 'runs on' graph would be useful? (linux can be broken up by distro/arch, solaris has sparc and x86 variants, there're like 6 branches to the bsd family, ...)
17:19.28Notify03GCI: Sean has left the following comment at Create an awesome screenshot http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8019211:   Task Closed  Congratulations, this task has been completed successfully.  
17:21.28Notify03GCI: Sean has left the following comment at Create an awesome screenshot http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8019211:   crashes   We like reproducible crashes. We can investigate and fix those. Keep your .g file and instructions on how to get it to crash. We'll be uploading several new tasks that basically have you find and document a reproducible crash. Since you've done that, you'll be...
17:21.51brlcad``Erik: good idea
17:22.01brlcadthat would look favorably on us ;)
17:22.06SkriptkidNeed help on the task "Surface Area fuction for Hyperboloids of one sheet(HYP)." Found the formula for SA, found the structures rt_functab and rt_db_internal. What should I do next?
17:22.09brlcadplatform diagram
17:22.30brlcadSkriptkid: look at one of the other simpler primitives and how they calculate surface area
17:22.37brlcadlike the ellipsoid (ell.c)
17:22.54brlcadfind the equations for ellipsoid surface area online and see how that translated to code
17:23.04brlcadthen translate your hyp equations to code
17:23.27Skriptkidok
17:29.10Notify03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 53914 (brlcad/trunk/include/raytrace.h brlcad/trunk/src/librt/db5_alloc.c and 15 others): apply patch from ambar pal for gci task http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8001215 that moves the remaining librt doxygen comments from source to header files. beat jackson to it.
17:29.48Nikolay@brlcad i have a question
17:30.13Nikolayacoarding to google non of the CAD's listed except BRLcad works on freebsd
17:30.15Nikolayis that possible?
17:30.21brlcadyep
17:30.37``Erikprobably, linux has only recently gotten attention and fbsd tends to be a quiet backend server os
17:30.42brlcadthat's exactly what I said I'd be shocked if any of those did
17:30.49*** join/#brlcad Skriptkid (~Skriptkid@117.202.108.67)
17:31.01Ashish101For the past 3 hiours i have been reading that introduction to CAD and now i am experimenting and will start my task tomorow   (My task is to menu arrangement)   do i have to describe each menu iteam after which i have to rearrange them and rename them ??  or just rearrange and rename ??   @brlcad:
17:31.06brlcadportability takes time and money
17:31.19brlcadnot good for commercial business penny pinchers
17:32.13brlcadAshish101: ideally you show a before and after and write up a little paragraph or two explaining why you arranged things the way you did
17:32.38brlcadideally should account for what happens to all of the existing menu items, where they go or whether they're removed or renamed, etc
17:33.22brlcadsimple mockup diagram would do wonders but it could be visualized with a text hierarchy too (you just still need to show the before and after)
17:34.06Ashish101So how big should it ideally be ?? in pages will help me get a rough idea on how much to write
17:34.30brlcadhow big should what be?
17:36.01brlcadAshish101: this is an example before and after: http://people.mozilla.org/~jdaggett/menusbeforeafter.png
17:36.06brlcador this: http://cdn6.everything-microsoft.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/before-and-after-hacks1-400x2911.png
17:36.17Ashish101KK understood --- nothing just ur last sentence got it all in my head  :P
17:36.27brlcador this: http://ims.cochrane.org/sites/ims.cochrane.org/files/uploads/images/new-context-menus-3.8-624.png
17:36.30brlcadlots of examples
17:37.14brlcadall I was saying is that it could even be text, but it'll be less convincing :)
17:37.29brlcadAshish101: are you familiar at all with GUI programming?
17:37.43Ashish101KK Ill try to make it as visual as possible  
17:37.46brlcadyou might have fun making this into a tk menu demo
17:38.13Nikolay@brlcad i uploaded the fixed file
17:38.47Nikolayand I will be waiting patiently for your approval or the other mentor's :)
17:39.08Ashish101Actuallly i am still struggling to use this software and learning and testing each of its functionality from 284 paged guide !!
17:41.21andreiAshish101, nobody is expecting you to fully understand BRL-CAD in a few days :)
17:41.52Ashish101:D
17:42.43Ashish101Gn ppl getting midnight now !!
17:43.50Notify03BRL-CAD:n_reed * 53915 (brlcad/trunk/include/raytrace.h brlcad/trunk/src/librt/db_scan.c brlcad/trunk/src/librt/dir.c): r53914 patch accidently copied a couple function return types with the comments
17:50.44Notify03GCI: Andrei Popescu has left the following comment at Move comments from source to header files ... move LIBRT comments for files beginning with the letter 'd' http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8001215:   Congratulations   Congratulations ,you have succesfully completed the task. Your work has been applied in revision r53914. If you wish, please leave your name so you can be credited
17:50.45Notifyin...
17:50.49Notify03GCI: Andrei Popescu has left the following comment at Move comments from source to header files ... move LIBRT comments for files beginning with the letter 'd' http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8001215:   Task Closed  Congratulations, this task has been completed successfully.  
17:57.11Skriptkidwhat is the difference between hyp_specfic and hyp_internal(or 'SHAPE'_specific and 'SHAPE'_internal, in general)?
17:57.25Skriptkidthe structures, I mean
18:05.42*** join/#brlcad KOKO__ (~KOKO@183.182.127.184)
18:08.45*** join/#brlcad KOKO_ (~KOKO@101.78.11.197)
18:12.27*** part/#brlcad caen23 (~caen23@92.81.193.169)
18:12.32*** join/#brlcad caen23 (~caen23@92.81.193.169)
18:12.33*** part/#brlcad caen23 (~caen23@92.81.193.169)
18:12.44*** join/#brlcad caen23 (~caen23@92.81.193.169)
18:14.38Notify03GCI: Skriptkid has left the following comment at Add a primitive surface area function ... for hyperboloids of one sheet (HYP) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7983225:   Difference between Internal and Specific   what is the difference between hyp_specfic and hyp_internal(or 'SHAPE'_specific and 'SHAPE'_internal, in general) structures. Also, what are the data types "fastf_t" and...
18:15.39``Eriknice
18:15.40``ErikERROR: Storage server temporarily offline. See http://status.github.com for GitHub system status.
18:18.06caen23i'm currently working on the "decouple libdm from libged" task. i've found that what i need to do is remove the call to the DM_GET_DISPLAY_IMAGE macro with a call to a function inside the ged struct. one of my ideas involved including include/dm.h inside include/ged.h, am i on the right track?
18:28.54Notify03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 53916 brlcad/trunk/AUTHORS: credit ambar pal for his work moving librt comments from source to header for the 'd' files
18:31.02Notify03GCI: Sean has left the following comment at Set up StatSVN http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8013211:   troubles   I'm having trouble downloading your .zip file. It looks like it might be a bug in the melange web interface, perhaps because of the large file size. Is what'sin the zip the same as what's at that URL? That URL doesn't look like it has anything to do with BRL-CAD.  
18:31.42Notify03GCI: Sean has left the following comment at Write BRL-CAD News article on .deb/.rpm builds http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7945213:   Deadline extended  The deadline of the task has been extended with 0 days and 12 hours.  
18:37.23Notify03GCI: Sean has left the following comment at Write BRL-CAD News article on .deb/.rpm builds http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7945213:   CPP wiki   Gala, your article looks good. I would have like to have seen some more write-up from you based on the interview or quotes of his intermixed with an article from you, but it's not bad as it is. I would suggest changing "BRL-CAD News (BCN)"
18:37.24Notifyto...
18:37.38Notify03GCI: Sean has left the following comment at Write BRL-CAD News article on .deb/.rpm builds http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7945213:   Deadline extended  The deadline of the task has been extended with 0 days and 12 hours.  
18:38.08brlcadstarseeker: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8009209
18:38.12brlcadstarseeker: is that what you wanted?
18:39.20brlcadcaen23: having the ged.h header make any reference to or inclusion of the dm.h header or the libdm functions IS the problem :)
18:39.37brlcadso yeah.. not on the right track in terms of adding a #include "dm.h" to ged.h
18:40.40caen23brlcad: hmm… but as far as i can see, dm.h includes ged.h. are there more files with this problem, or am i missing something?
18:40.51caen23more libs*, actually
18:40.59brlcadwhat you'll probably end up needing to do is add a generic callback function (do you know how to do that?) to the ged struct that simply returns an image or something
18:41.27brlcadcaen23: yep, the reverse is a problem too
18:41.37brlcadthose two libraries should know nothing about each other
18:41.43brlcad(directly)
18:42.13caen23as far as i know, a callback function is a pointer to a function. which i should later implement inside a file in src/libged?
18:42.36brlcadhalf right
18:42.42brlcadit's a pointer to a function
18:43.15brlcadbut the function will be defined in libdm or mged, set into the ged struct with mged, and then only called within libged
18:43.49brlcadthink of it like if I didn't want a library to know about printf and I had this struct:
18:44.16brlcadstruct ged { int (*doit)(const char *fmt, ...); }
18:45.01brlcadin this case, libdm or libc is the library implementing some printf function but we don't want libged to know about it
18:45.25brlcadso mged creates a struct ged gedp; and gedp.doit = &printf;
18:45.57brlcadthen within libged when it gets that gedp, it just calls gedp->doit(fmt, val1, val2, val3);
18:46.15brlcadlo and behold, printf is called and libged never had to know
18:46.26caen23oh, so i should look into altering mged, too? mged will be the "bridge" between dm and ged?
18:46.47brlcadright
18:47.03brlcadsome third-party code has to arbitrate
18:47.20caen23yep
18:49.41caen23one more thing: screengrab contains a call to a macro within dm.h, not a function. but that macro is a wrapper to a hidden function (or private, it's prefixed by _). do i call the private function explicitly, or do i do something else?
18:49.45brlcadyou might have to make mged not use the "default" ged handler for that command so you can set the function
18:50.08brlcadmake a function that calls the macro :)
18:50.30brlcadcould technically do that all within mged
18:50.32caen23right :D thanks
18:50.33brlcadstatic
18:52.59brlcadandrei: so you do realize that you have commit access, right?  you can commit the patches/changes as you review them if they're good to go (and intended for commit)
18:54.41*** join/#brlcad Skriptkid (~Skriptkid@117.202.108.67)
19:04.28Notify03GCI: Mark Ayers has left the following comment at Compile BRL-CAD on Windows using the Borland Embarcadero Compiler http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7955216:   Task Claimed  I would like to work on this task.  
19:05.40andreiyes, I just didn't know if you dealt with that patch.
19:06.08Notify03GCI: Andrei Popescu has left the following comment at Compile BRL-CAD on Windows using the Borland Embarcadero Compiler http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7955216:   Task Assigned  This task has been assigned to Mark Ayers. You have 72 hours to complete this task, good luck!  
19:14.57*** join/#brlcad KOKO_ (~KOKO@101.78.11.197)
19:15.50*** join/#brlcad elf (~elf@92.80.1.188)
19:18.15caen23brlcad: i created the function pointer, and now i'd like to edit mged. but what file should i edit? i see there's a dm-generic, should i make a ged-generic?
19:21.42*** join/#brlcad KOKO_ (~KOKO@101.78.11.197)
19:22.33Notify03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53917 (brlcad/trunk/src/libged/bigE.c brlcad/trunk/src/libged/bot_decimate.c and 8 others): fix spellings
19:25.53Notify03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53918 (brlcad/trunk/src/halftone/halftone.1 brlcad/trunk/src/halftone/main.c and 3 others): fix spellings (including Sproull and Steinberg)
19:29.40*** join/#brlcad markthema3 (8627bec8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.134.39.190.200)
19:31.07Notify03BRL-CAD:n_reed * 53919 brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/pipe/pipe.c: fix incorrect test allowing drawing with negative diameter
19:31.30markthema3I've claimed the task for compiling BRL-CAD on Windows using Borland, and I'm wondering if I should attempt the task on Windows 8 or if I should try it on 7 instead.
19:36.06Notify03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53920 (brlcad/trunk/misc/Doxyfile brlcad/trunk/misc/Doxyfile.in and 8 others): fix spellings
19:38.19Notify03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53921 (brlcad/trunk/doc/html/manuals/Anim_Tutorial/chapt8.html brlcad/trunk/doc/html/manuals/Anim_Tutorial/foot_graphics.html brlcad/trunk/doc/html/manuals/Install.html): fix spellings including Sproull
19:41.39Notify03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53922 (brlcad/trunk/doc/html/manuals/mged/ged.html brlcad/trunk/doc/html/manuals/mged/ged.tex brlcad/trunk/doc/mged/e.tex): fix spacing and fix spelling of 'restore'
19:44.49Notify03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53923 (brlcad/trunk/doc/anim.txt brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/lessons/es/mged03_utilizar_comando_in.xml brlcad/trunk/doc/html/manuals/mged/mged1.html): fix spellings including one in Spanish
19:44.52caen23nevermind, got it
20:08.50starseekerbrlcad: re: 8009209 that looks like it should be fine - I'll try it in a LaTeX document at some point before uploading it, but it looks like a good effort.
20:12.11starseekeremacs says it's syntatically valid
20:16.23starseekerbrlcad: if you think a CMake task might be in order for GCI, I have a candidate
20:18.45starseekerin misc/CMake/CompilerFlags.cmake I have a TODO note to use CMakeParseArguments instead of that crazy quilt of nested if/else statements
20:18.57starseekerhttp://www.cmake.org/cmake/help/v2.8.9/cmake.html#module:CMakeParseArguments
20:19.46*** join/#brlcad minichrispy (450f6b03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.15.107.3)
20:19.52starseekerBRLCAD_CHECK_C_FLAG and BRLCAD_CHECK_CXX_FLAG would both be reworked to use argument parsing instead
20:21.49starseekerthere are a few other macros with simpler setups that may also benefit, but those are the two biggies
20:24.55Notify03BRL-CAD Wiki:Minichrispy * 4687 /wiki/Compiling/XCode:
20:25.36Nikolay@brlcad I have a question
20:26.15Nikolayno wait i found my answer nvm
20:26.55Notify03BRL-CAD Wiki:Minichrispy * 4688 /wiki/Compiling/XCode:
20:30.36caen23brlcad: i think i got screengrab to compile without dm.h, but how can i make sure i haven't broken functionality?
20:33.47caen23figured it out, but yeah, i did break something, oops
20:38.30Nikolayyou bad boy :D
20:38.55starseekernah, he's fine - he didn't commit it broken
20:42.35*** join/#brlcad lachlanp (~lachlan@ppp226-79.static.internode.on.net)
20:43.58lachlanphi
20:44.01lachlanpanyone on now?
20:44.04Notify03BRL-CAD Wiki:Minichrispy * 4689 /wiki/Compiling/XCode:
20:44.14lachlanpneed to solve the patch issue on http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8000211
20:44.58Notify03BRL-CAD Wiki:Minichrispy * 4690 /wiki/Compiling/XCode:
20:52.27Notify03GCI: Lachlan P has left the following comment at Create numerics library (LIBBN) API unit test ... for list.c http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8000211:   Sorry, Missed   Hi,  It seems I've missed you for the moment. Here's what I did to create the patch and apply it: (from http://brlcad.org/wiki/Deuces#When_You.27re_Done)  inside the brlcad-svn directory:  $ svn diff > ~/my.patch  
20:52.28NotifyThen...
20:58.41lachlanpwill hopefully be back in 10mins
21:01.01Notify03GCI: Matt S. has left the following comment at Add a primitive surface area function ... for polyhedron with 4 to 8 sides (ARB8) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8028203:   Elaboration   What cross product, and I guess more specifically, what function are you referring to?  
21:05.12Notify03GCI: Lachlan P has left the following comment at Create numerics library (LIBBN) API unit test ... for list.c http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8000211:   Ready for review  The work on this task is ready to be reviewed.  
21:07.27Notify03GCI: Lachlan P has left the following comment at Create numerics library (LIBBN) API unit test ... for list.c http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8000211:   Revision   My SVN Revision for producing the patch was: 53923, just in case.  Lachlan  
21:08.57*** join/#brlcad lachlanp (~lachlan@ppp226-79.static.internode.on.net)
21:15.02Notify03GCI: Silvrous has left the following comment at Add a primitive surface area function ... for polyhedron with 4 to 8 sides (ARB8) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8028203:   Ready for review  The work on this task is ready to be reviewed.  
21:18.48Notify03GCI: Silvrous has left the following comment at Add a primitive surface area function ... for polyhedron with 4 to 8 sides (ARB8) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8028203:   rt_arb_volume   In the RT_ARB_VOLUME function, on line 2309, the function computes the area of the base of the arb4 to get the volume, by using vector cross products, but the formula is 1/2*(cross_product).  
21:22.13Notify03BRL-CAD:jordisayol * 53924 brlcad/trunk/sh/make_rpm.sh: Linux rpm properly clean system when removing
21:22.17Notify03GCI: Melange has left the following comment at Find and fix at least 5 spelling mistakes in at least 40 different files http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7999212:   Initial Deadline passed  Melange has detected that the initial deadline has passed and it has set the task status to ActionNeeded. The student has 24 hours to submit the work before the task is reopened and sent back to the...
21:25.58Notify03BRL-CAD:jordisayol * 53925 (brlcad/trunk/misc/debian/brlcad.postinst brlcad/trunk/misc/debian/brlcad.postrm): Delete unneeded process when install/remove deb packages.
21:37.11*** join/#brlcad GrantMercer015 (~GrantMerc@p23184-ipngn100301fukuokachu.fukuoka.ocn.ne.jp)
21:41.07GrantMercer015im having a really confusing error when it comes to using strncpy
21:41.38GrantMercer015the function works great in main.cpp, but the second i move it over to int sort for the qsort functino the program crashes
21:46.22Nikolaywhat error does it give you?
21:46.28Nikolayor nothing just the chrash
21:50.34GrantMercer015never mind, i found it was my variable that was the problem
21:50.43GrantMercer015i just replaced it with reading in a buffer
21:52.42Notify03GCI: Matt S. has left the following comment at Add a primitive surface area function ... for polyhedron with 4 to 8 sides (ARB8) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8028203:   No, it's correct   Note that the area of a tetrahedron is:  V = \frac{1}{3} A_0 h  which follows from the volume formula for a general polyhedra. Notice that in rt_arb_volume we have:  /* calculate area of arb4
21:52.43Notifybase...
21:57.18Notify03GCI: javamonn has left the following comment at Add a primitive surface area function ... for elliptical hyperboloids (EHY) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7970238:   Task Claimed  I would like to work on this task.  
21:59.00GrantMercer015i need some help concerning the qsort function, would it be inefficient to make qsort call a function?
21:59.31GrantMercer015my function is getting quite repetitive and large, would it be easier to make a function and have qsort call it? and also should that function be inline
22:02.47Notify03GCI: Silvrous has left the following comment at Add a primitive surface area function ... for polyhedron with 4 to 8 sides (ARB8) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8028203:   Oh, right   My bad, I should have seen that. Especially since I did something similar in my own function.  
22:13.32Notify03GCI: Petar Stanev has left the following comment at Find and fix at least 5 spelling mistakes in at least 40 different files http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7999212:   Claim Removed  The claim on this task has been removed, someone else can claim it now.  
22:19.02Notify03GCI: Ben Bray has left the following comment at Implement a primitive volume function ... for hyperboloids of one sheet (HYP) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7987216:   Ready for review  The work on this task is ready to be reviewed.  
22:19.22Notify03GCI: Matt S. has left the following comment at Add a primitive surface area function ... for polyhedron with 4 to 8 sides (ARB8) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8028203:   OK, but...   Since you have the vertes coordinates, could you not simply compute the area via Green's Theorem?  
22:20.31Notify03GCI: javamonn has left the following comment at Add a primitive surface area function ... for elliptical hyperboloids (EHY) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7970238:   Some questions:   I cant seem to find an equation for calculating the surface area of elliptic hyperboloids. Since Wolfram MathWorld notes that an elliptic hyperboloid is a generalization of the standard hyperboloid,...
22:20.36*** join/#brlcad moinnadeem (409521fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.149.33.252)
22:43.39Notify03GCI: Matt S. has left the following comment at Implement a primitive volume function ... for hyperboloids of one sheet (HYP) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7987216:   Deadline extended  The deadline of the task has been extended with 0 days and 12 hours.  
22:47.34Notify03GCI: Matt S. has left the following comment at Add a primitive surface area function ... for polyhedron with 4 to 8 sides (ARB8) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8028203:   But it is 2D!   Each face is planar, and thus the so-called 2D version of Green's Theorem applies directly.  As an algorithm, one could get the vertex coordinates of a single face (which is always a triangle in
22:47.35Notifythis...
22:50.15Notify03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53926 brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/lessons/es/mged05_expresiones_booleanas.xml: fix spelling in English and Spanish
22:52.19brlcadstarseeker: you'd definitely have to write the language up for that one because I'm not sure I understand it
22:52.57Notify03GCI: javamonn has left the following comment at Add a primitive surface area function ... for elliptical hyperboloids (EHY) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7970238:   Claim Removed  The claim on this task has been removed, someone else can claim it now.  
22:53.13brlcadif it'll take you an hour to explain it, then might not be a great task but if everything can be spelled out then it should work
22:53.42brlcadcaen23: test it
22:53.48Notify03GCI: javamonn has left the following comment at Model a "C" using BRL-CAD http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7971228:   Task Claimed  I would like to work on this task.  
22:54.42lachlanphi
22:55.09Notify03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53927 brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/lessons/es/mged05_expresiones_booleanas.xml: Spanish word 'substraccion'
22:55.11lachlanpanyone able to test my patch now?
22:55.22Notify03GCI: Gala has left the following comment at Write BRL-CAD News article on .deb/.rpm builds http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7945213:   Follow-Up on Code-In Task   Hi Sean,  Thanks for the feedback. I want to expand this into an article as you suggested, however I have my SATs in the morning. So, I will not be able to put substantial time into this until tomorrow afternoon. I'm also
22:55.23Notifygoing...
22:56.44brlcadlachlanp: so you're going to need to change the way you're working for that to not get exhausting
22:56.54starseekerbrlcad: yeah, it might be a bit tough to spell out
22:57.21Notify03GCI: javamonn has left the following comment at Add a primitive surface area function ... for elliptical hyperboloids (EHY) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7970238:   I will be back...   I'm going to drop this task and do the "model a C" task while its still open. I'd still appreciate an answer to this question, as I'd love to come back to this if it's still open when I get done. It...
22:57.23brlcadinstead of hopping on the channel for 5min and asking "is anyone here", ask you question and STAY on the channel (notice how we never disconnect?)
22:57.46Notify03GCI: Silvrous has left the following comment at Add a primitive surface area function ... for polyhedron with 4 to 8 sides (ARB8) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8028203:   I suppose   I know the 2D version of green's theorem, but I thought this way was easier to implement  
22:58.00brlcadlachlanp: if you're here when we "get back", we'll usually answer your question so just ask us as if we were here
22:58.22*** join/#brlcad bhlegm (~bhlegm@d108-180-27-19.bchsia.telus.net)
22:58.31Notify03GCI: Alex Ozer has left the following comment at Implement a primitive centroid function ... for elliptical hyperboloids (EHY) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7975237:   Extension   I've been busy with schoolwork recently, is there any chance to get an extension on this task?  
22:59.03brlcad``Erik: could those messages be trimmed back a little bit, maybe <256chars (looks like they're going up 500 chars atm)
23:00.00brlcadlachlanp: it's not meant to quiet you -- it's meant to get "better questions" that work for you and for us
23:00.20brlcadas you can tell, there's a lot going on.. ;)
23:00.36lachlanpok
23:00.37brlcaddon't want you to get frustrated either
23:00.38lachlanpsorry
23:01.00brlcadno need to be sorry, just want to make sure we're not having to wade through so much noise
23:01.07brlcadI know a lot of folks are not used to IRC
23:01.16brlcadthere are lots of etiquette rules expected
23:01.23lachlanpok
23:01.27caen23i'm having trouble understanding how commands in mged work. for my task (separated libged from libdm), my current solution is to alter the ged struct to include the info from libdm used inside screengrab. this means testing whether the pointer to struct dm is null, getting the width and height from dm, and writing a callback to a function. i then setup these new members inside mged, and do something like "gedp->ged_dm_width" to get the width i need. but i kee
23:01.28caen23getting segfault when i try to test the program, and i believe this is because i'm not setting the new members when i need to. at first, i set it in the f_opendb function inside mged.c, and i've realized this is stupid, but i can't seem to understand where screengrab is called. i currently think it's in mged/cmd.c, inside "cmd_ged_dm_wrapper", but setting the new members there also generates a segfault. where am i wrong?
23:01.36brlcadwe write about them here: http://brlcad.org/wiki/IRC
23:02.41lachlanpthanks
23:03.58brlcadlachlanp: it sounds like you made your patch just fine
23:04.25lachlanpi'm not sure if he meant the patch apply failed or the build failed
23:05.10brlcadhe who?
23:05.30lachlanpAndrei Popescu
23:05.51lachlanphe said he got a lot of errors
23:06.30brlcadah, I see yes -- and unfortunately didn't say what any of those are so the best bet is to just wait a little while for him to come online
23:06.33brlcad~seen andrei
23:06.41ibotandrei <~andrei@188.25.160.152> was last seen on IRC in channel #brlcad, 4h 1m 1s ago, saying: 'yes, I just didn't know if you dealt with that patch.'.
23:07.10lachlanpok :-)
23:07.25Notify03GCI: Matt S. has left the following comment at Implement a primitive volume function ... for hyperboloids of one sheet (HYP) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7987216:   Looks correct   This looks good, but I don't have time to actually properly check this for at least a few hours. I'm extending the deadline in order to give myself fime to go over this a little later. Of course,
23:07.26Notifysomebody...
23:07.27brlcadlachlanp: so the patch applies, does the test compile and run without errors?
23:07.50lachlanpon mine it did the second time
23:08.05lachlanpi had a bash script i hacked up that didn't work, but when i ran it myself it did
23:08.12lachlanpmake
23:08.14lachlanpthen make test
23:08.41lachlanp(patch apply worked first time)
23:09.20*** join/#brlcad caen23_ (~caen23@92.81.197.30)
23:16.40Notify03GCI: Silvrous has left the following comment at Add a primitive surface area function ... for polyhedron with 4 to 8 sides (ARB8) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8028203:   Well,   That was actually my first idea, but I didn't know how to do the transformation.  
23:18.30Notify03GCI: PJF has left the following comment at Model an "R" using BRL-CAD http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7982219:   Ready for review  The work on this task is ready to be reviewed.  
23:19.04brlcadlachlanp: I'll try your patch in a few min
23:20.59Notify03GCI: PJF has left the following comment at Model an "R" using BRL-CAD http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7982219:   files loaded   Hi,  Ive loaded the .g file and a rendered .pix file (not sure how to view the .pix file on my machine though.) I have included a .png screen shot of the rendered output form rtwizard.   Thanks,  PJF  
23:22.54lachlanpi'm building it again manually to check as well
23:33.53Notify03GCI: Matt S. has left the following comment at Add a primitive surface area function ... for polyhedron with 4 to 8 sides (ARB8) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8028203:   That I can help with   Give me a few minutes, I have enough material kicking around here somewhere on just this topic...  
23:35.08*** join/#brlcad maths22 (~maths22@173-167-152-209-illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net)

Generated by irclog2html.pl Modified by Tim Riker to work with infobot.