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00:56.12Notify03GCI:javamonn * 8131203 Compile with -Wstrict-prototypes, fix warnings that ensue: Well... -  Well, this task has taken me far longer than I had originally anticipated. I started with compiling...
01:04.51Skriptkiddvec.h contains the class dvec and prototypes of all members of the class, while their definitions are in vector_x86.h or vector_fpu.h, depending on availability of SSE right? Sorry If this is stupid. I'm not really familiar with C++
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02:00.25Notify03GCI:Skriptkid * 8007218 Implement runtime detection of SSE: Toggling -  Should subclassing be done here? Since the definitions of members of dvec are different but prototypes are same, overloading...
02:51.51Notify03GCI:Skriptkid * 8007218 Implement runtime detection of SSE: Dropping -  I guess I'm dropping this. I don't know C++, especially OOP in it, so no point breaking my head over this when i can do some...
02:54.11Notify03GCI:Skriptkid * 8007218 Implement runtime detection of SSE: Ready for review - The work on this task is ready to be reviewed.
02:54.51Notify03GCI:Skriptkid * 8007218 Implement runtime detection of SSE: Unclaim? -  How can I unclaim?! There's no "Unclaim" option!
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04:00.18SkriptkidCould some mentor please reopen that task? I'm unable to unclaim it.
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05:17.41Notify03GCI:Melange * 8131203 Compile with -Wstrict-prototypes, fix warnings that ensue: Initial Deadline passed - Melange has detected that the initial deadline has passed and it has set the task status...
05:19.16Notify03GCI:Sean * 8007218 Implement runtime detection of SSE: Task Closed - Congratulations, this task has been completed successfully.
05:23.58Notify03GCI:Sean * 8007218 Implement runtime detection of SSE: as you noted -  As you noted, we technically have an implementation of runtime detection and you identifeid that feature available. You've...
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06:14.15SkriptkidIs analyze working for elliptical hyperboloids(ehy)? I get an "unable to process ID_EHY" on even a fresh checkout
06:41.26Notify03GCI:Skriptkid * 8007218 Implement runtime detection of SSE: Subclassing -  Subclassing might be a good idea. You have the main(base) dvec class. Create two subclasses which inhert it. One for x86...
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09:06.01Notify03GCI:Daniel Rossberg * 8131203 Compile with -Wstrict-prototypes, fix warnings that ensue: Set the task to "needs review" -  if you think you did enough for a GCi task.
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12:38.06Notify03GCI:javamonn * 8131203 Compile with -Wstrict-prototypes, fix warnings that ensue: Ready for review - The work on this task is ready to be reviewed.
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13:14.04Notify03GCI:Daniel Rossberg * 8131203 Compile with -Wstrict-prototypes, fix warnings that ensue: I'm getting the following compilation errors -  with standard CMake generated make files (no...
13:14.14Notify03GCI:Daniel Rossberg * 8131203 Compile with -Wstrict-prototypes, fix warnings that ensue: Task Needs More Work - One of the mentors has sent this task back for more work. Talk to the mentor(s)...
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14:14.35*** topic/#brlcad by brlcad -> BRL-CAD || http://brlcad.org || logs: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23brlcad/ || Thanks to all of our GCI participants for their fantastic work! Join brlcad-news to see when your changes get rolled out...
14:18.04Notify03GCI:Sean * 8131203 Compile with -Wstrict-prototypes, fix warnings that ensue: two hours remaining -  Javamonn, Since there's only two hours remaining, go ahead and mark the task as needing review...
14:42.21Notify03GCI:Sean * 8104208 Add missing documentation for any one command (#4): thank you! -  As GCI comes to a close, we wanted to take the time to say THANK YOU for all your efforts. This comment...
14:43.21Notify03GCI:Sean * 7998215 Implement a primitive volume function ... for gridded volumes (VOL): thank you! -  As GCI comes to a close, we wanted to take the time to say THANK YOU for all your efforts....
14:43.31Notify03GCI:Sean * 8079211 Review and post "Blender to BRL-CAD" tutorial on our wiki: thank you! -  As GCI comes to a close, we wanted to take the time to say THANK YOU for all your efforts. This comment...
14:44.06Notify03GCI:Sean * 8003218 Compile and run BRL-CAD on a Raspberry Pi: thank you! -  As GCI comes to a close, we wanted to take the time to say THANK YOU for all your efforts. This comment interface closes...
14:44.21Notify03GCI:Sean * 7987215 Categorize all of BRL-CAD's commands into a spreadsheet: thank you! -  As GCI comes to a close, we wanted to take the time to say THANK YOU for all your efforts. This comment...
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15:02.44Notify03GCI:Skriptkid * 8142202 Design a prototype CAD GUI layout (#2): Thank you too! -  GCI has been amazing! I'll save the whole thank-you note for the end ;) My full name is "Akshay Kashyap"  And the...
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15:42.26Skriptkidbrlcad: There's a feature request on sourceforge - "Tilde symbol for home directory representation" I came with a little piece of code for that(although I don't know if it'll be acceptable.) Can I submit it as an attachment on that artifact?
15:56.05Skriptkidah..can't do that..
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16:00.39brlcadSkriptkid: hm?
16:01.37SkriptkidThere's a feature request and I modified Mged to introduce that feature. I can't submit it right?
16:01.48SkriptkidOn sourceforge.
16:03.02brlcadSkriptkid: can you comment on that task?
16:03.50SkriptkidIt's not a task. It's a feature request artifact on sourceforge
16:04.25Skriptkid"Tilde symbol for home directory.
16:05.07brlcadtask == artifact
16:05.22brlcadon that tracker item
16:05.35SkriptkidOh. Sorry. Yeah. I'll comment on it.
16:05.35brlcadcan you comment or do you not have permission?
16:05.43SkriptkidI can comment.
16:06.07brlcadyou can include a note there for starters, at least until we get you added
16:06.25SkriptkidI'll do that.
16:08.08Notify03GCI:Jacob B * 8023219 Set up QEMU deployment testing: Uploading -  Don't download the file yet: it is a 5.6 gb file, and it is still uploading. I could not finish the task on friday because I had...
16:08.45Skriptkidbrlcad: comment added.  
16:10.19Notify03GCI:Jacob B * 8023219 Set up QEMU deployment testing: Ready for review - The work on this task is ready to be reviewed.
16:16.03Notify03GCI:Sean * 8023219 Set up QEMU deployment testing: Task Closed - Congratulations, this task has been completed successfully.
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16:28.05maths22brlcad: my client estimates 1:10 to upload.  I am uploading it to ty family's NAS, so once you have it downloaded to a better location, let me know so I can delete the file.
16:28.21brlcadmaths22: hehe
16:28.27brlcadwill do
16:28.36brlcadlet me know when it's done uploading
16:28.50maths22ok.  There are not many good places to share 5.6 gb files.
16:29.05brlcadwouldn't compress better?
16:29.26maths22How should I compress it.  gzip?
16:29.35brlcadanything :)
16:30.14maths22I will do that and reupload it.
16:30.35brlcadokay, that should make it a lot smaller, I'd hope
16:30.52Notify03GCI:Cezar * 7957220 Separate LIBNURBS files into one class per file: Thanks -  Thanks a lot for all the nice words and the help you've provided to all of us during the contest, it's been a great...
16:30.58maths22It is compressing with gzip; I have no clue how long that will take.
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16:51.19maths22By the way, now that GCI is almost over, I would like to express my interest in the  webmaster role decribed previously.
16:51.43brlcadmaths22: there's still 8 minutes ;)
16:52.12maths22I know.
16:52.23brlcadbut that's fantastic to hear, you're mostly set up so we'll just have to figure out a plan
16:57.22maths22Now it is uploading to ftp://share:brlcad@50.141.159.74/OpenShare/brlcad-ubuntu.qcow2
16:57.35maths22Now it is uploading to ftp://share:brlcad@50.141.159.74/OpenShare/brlcad-ubuntu.qcow2.gz
16:57.50maths22SOrry about the first link
16:57.56maths22It is now only 1.8 gb
16:58.15brlcadexcellent, that's a little better ;)
16:58.23brlcadis it done?
16:59.04maths22Now it is uploadg estimate is about half an hour.
16:59.52SkriptkidWow. GCI is over.
17:00.24maths22Yep.  The homepage now says CONTEST BEGINS ON NOV 26
17:05.23brlcadwoo hoo!
17:05.46brlcadthank you all for your efforts
17:05.47SkriptkidNow that GCI has come to an end, I'd like to thank everyone here at BRL-CAD for this amazing experience. I've learnt so much from you all, that I probably wouldn't have in a longtime, and you've been such a wonderful and helpful crowd! THANK YOU, BRL-CAD! And best of luck to all participants for your future endeavors! :D
17:06.55maths22Thank you for the opportunity to become involved in open source.
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17:07.42brlcadmaths22: you have always had that opportunity ;)
17:07.57brlcadthat's one of the great things about open source, nobody has to invite you and you don't have to ask for permission
17:08.10brlcadGCI has certainly been a great way to get started, though
17:08.18SkriptkidTrue :)
17:08.44maths22Well, I did not think to become involved until GCI
17:10.54Notify03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 54169 brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/archer/SketchEditFrame.tcl: remove trailing blanks/tabs
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17:20.26caen23congratulations to all the students and the mentors! like i said, it's been an awesome and unique experience, and it's the beginning of a wonderful journey
17:22.14SkriptkidThank you, caen23 :)
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17:45.01andrei_woah, it takes almost 3 weeks to decide winners, that's quite the time to think
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17:48.39maths22brlcad: it is up.
18:14.55brlcadmaths22: receiving, eta 1 hr
18:16.16maths22Sorry that my upload speed is not great.  I unfortuniatly canno host it on my awsome school's network/
18:22.57maths22brlcad: why is bzflag back to being the webhost?
18:23.13maths22sorry: webserver
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18:31.17brlcadmaths22: what do you mean?  back to being the webserver?
18:32.06maths22crit is  not the server for brlcad.org anymore
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19:21.15starseekerfinally:  http://www.pcworld.com/article/2024391/acer-takes-on-apple-with-retina-class-laptop-displays.html
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19:51.35brlcadstarseeker: heh, that's a CES prototype
19:52.19brlcadso yeah, some other company might start shipping a high-resolution display a solid later .. I'd hope so!
19:52.58brlcadmaths22: ah, I thought you meant the bzflag site itself
19:53.16caen23i watched the first 10 minutes of qualcomm's ces introduction (i think that's what it was) and it was so stupid it wasn't even funny
19:53.21brlcadcrit will be, it wasn't supposed to be switched over to crit just yet and was only accidentally switched for a couple hours
20:19.05maths22Ahah
20:21.15Notify03BRL-CAD:bob1961 * 54170 brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/archer/GeometryEditFrame.tcl: Stub in a configbody for units and valueUnits
20:35.57Notify03BRL-CAD:bob1961 * 54171 (brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/archer/Archer.tcl brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/archer/SketchEditFrame.tcl): The following tweaks are for Archer's sketch editor. Update the sketch panel when the units are changed. Use bboxVerts to get the bounding box instead of calling the canvas' bbox method. This results in a better initial scale factor for the sketch view. Hook the edit panel entries to
20:35.59Notifynon-array variables. Other minor tweaks.
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21:07.21maths22brlcad: is it downloaded?
21:12.28brlcadmaths22: yep, all done
21:12.56brlcadit'll be a day or two before I free up space to test it -- we have some gci announcements to prepare (and the website migration work)
21:13.04maths22ok.  that way I can disable the share login.
21:13.13maths22I don't want that out there for too long/
21:13.49maths22(the access, not the file)
21:29.40starseekerbrlcad: yeah, not a product announcement yet - but the first positive sign I've seen in a while that the industry is going to try and follow apple down the retina display road
21:31.27starseeker"caught the PC industry off guard" is putting it mildly - they were so silent about whether they were even going to plan to offer anything like that display I was kinda worried they were hiding under the boardroom tables and hoping it would all go away
21:33.38andrei_starseeker: why do you consider the retina display such a crucial improvement ?
21:34.06andrei_I mean, I have seen flexible displays, lately. I consider that a much bigger accomplishment
21:34.47starseekerandrei_: retina displays let me a) fit more stuff on the screen simultaneously and b) view big images at full quality
21:35.49starseekerfinds flexible displays technically impressive, but largely "meh" functionality wise
21:36.21starseekerspecific applicaitons where they will be useful, but I've never had a real problem with "hard" display screens
21:36.24andrei_Doesn't Apple have patent on retina display ?
21:36.53starseekerthey probably have a trademark on "retina display" - I doubt they can patent "high resolution" displays
21:37.33starseekerI use "retina" only to make it clear that I'm not referring to the non-apple state-of-the-PC-art high PPI displays
21:37.52andrei_I have never used a mac so far, but I have seen many developers use macs in U.S.
21:38.02starseekerEssentially, I'm hoping this will mean the return of the IBM T221 style desktop monitor
21:38.20starseekerhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_T220/T221_LCD_monitors
21:38.43andrei_was looking at it just now
21:38.58starseekerandrei_: if they get linux working reliably on the Apple retina display hardware, that might be OK too
21:40.05starseekerrefuses to buy in to the Mac OSX thing - too closed. Pretty, but seeing as I use a dark grey fluxbox desktop at home "pretty" doesn't really factor in ;-)
21:40.24andrei_I have to admit, the resolution is significantly larger
21:40.50starseekerscreens are ultimately about displaying as much information as possible as usefully as possible - it's not unusual for me to have a dozen or more terminals open
21:41.41starseekerplus PDF papers, web browsers with project pages, etc. - the more screen real estate available, the more "parallel" my monitoring and switching between information inputs
21:42.39starseekerI tend to have rather small fonts, especially on terminals - usually what I'm doing in a terminal is launching a process or monitoring it's progress via watching "text flow"
21:42.49andrei_I was using a 17' monitor until a year ago or so and when I switched from 17' to 30' I was like : " so many vsplits possible "
21:43.02starseekerhehe
21:44.39starseekerit really does make a difference - I was surprised
21:45.16starseekerhas considered trying to get a T221 via ebay or some such, but not immediately clear how difficult it would be to get it working properly
21:46.45andrei_it takes quite some gear to get it running, for a monitor, at least.
21:46.52starseekerwith any luck, the Apple retina displays will finally bring in a new generation of really high PPI displays and I can assemble a 3x(3840x2400) monitor setup without jumping through insane hardware hoops :-)
21:48.08andrei_that means an incredible amount of info
21:48.39andrei_but, speaking about that, I don't think it will be easy to have the appropriate videocard(s) setup
21:49.04starseekerit will probably usher in another few generations of new video cards
21:49.33andrei_and here I  mean working with BRL-CAD because I think  the GUI insn't incredibly hard to render
21:49.38starseekerthinks NVIDIA and friends should be happy about that - another reason for *everybody* to upgrade their video cards, not just hardcore gamers
21:50.18starseekerandrei_: sorry?  not following - why would BRL-CAD have trouble?
21:50.49andrei_I meant doing 3d modeling probably puts a lot more work onto the graphics card than loading a GUI
21:51.18starseekerah - sure
21:51.18andrei_but in fact, BRL-CAD uses images, not frames
21:51.25andrei_or so I believe
21:51.49starseekerandrei_: if you're using the openGL backend the card will make a difference
21:51.57andrei_I was thinking at some example I encountered a few days ago in openGL
21:52.17andrei_I don't remember the exact name, but I know there is a list used for static objects that significantly improves performance
21:52.29andrei_display lists, or something like that.
21:52.41starseekerover time, will probably start to look more like "standard" cad modelers by default, and that'll involve using GPUs for casual 3D displays...
21:53.01starseekeryeah, display lists - we can use those, even in MGED
21:53.16andrei_I was impressed about the difference they can make
21:53.39starseekerholy cow, there is an 80 megapixel digital camera out there...
21:53.51starseekernow there's a good excuse for a high PPI display
21:54.08andrei_I might be wrong but there are some companies planning to get 40 megapixel on smartphones
21:54.43starseekernotes 16 megapixels is nothing special anymore... wow, we were glad to have 4/5 megapixel cameras just a few years ago
21:55.00andrei_indeed
21:55.17andrei_now I can say " When I was young ..we used to have VGA cameras on phones "
21:55.36starseekeractually picked up a 4 megapixel camera for ten bucks at a yard sale - cost $300 new just a few years ago
21:55.37``Erikwhen I was young, phones didn't have cameras, and they plugged into the wall
21:55.50andrei_hahaha
21:56.33``Erikstarseeker: you can run that 'leenewx' thing on mac hw, or fbsd... and for the most part, apple is surprisingly open O.o darwin is the core kernel, the bsd userland is all open, etc
21:57.35starseekerprojects like this look more affordable by the day:  http://www.diybookscanner.org/
21:57.59starseekerpretty soon you'll be able to fish *everything* you need out of the trash - cameras included
21:58.46andrei_starseeker: that looks like some torture machine
21:58.57starseeker``Erik: sure, the non-GUI parts of Apple aren't bad - but they're a pain in the neck when it comes to encouraging the "locked down, app store" mentality with users
22:00.37``Erikhate to say it, but I think a majority consider that a boon... I'd also point out that there're more automatic transmissions in the US than manuals, people would rather have it 'just work' than have control and freedom
22:01.30starseeker``Erik: agreed.  All the more reason to make sure I put my own $$ somewhere that preserves the alternatives
22:02.43starseekerdoesn't object to things being easy or well done - but in his case, both of those considerations are trumped by the desire to be in control of my own machine
22:04.54starseekerwith any luck, system76 will have a "Retina Display" laptop option by the time I actually need to replace my old Thinkpad (which will be a while - it's still working fine, and it's now so old a thief stealing it would probably lose money paying for their getaway gas)
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