IRC log for #brlcad on 20130523

00:20.29starseekerbrlcad: http://brlcad.org/~starseeker/brlcad_build_log_openindiana.txt
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02:50.12Notify03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 55542 (brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/ami.tcl brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/ampi.tcl): fix the silent error that was causing mged to run without a slew of commands being available. if we can't build a tclIndex, stop hard because something went terribly wrong. sync ami.tcl and ampi.tcl too so they basically do the same thing (might want to merge at some point). print the actual error if there was one.
02:51.32brlcadstarseeker: yep, I skipped some of the indiana warnings because they're libc implementation errors
02:53.36brlcadthe paste issue is compiler options needing adjustment
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03:10.02Notify03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 55543 brlcad/trunk/src/other/openNURBS/opennurbs_system.h: quell mass of openindiana warnings for NAME_MAX not being defined
03:34.00Notify03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 55544 brlcad/trunk/src/other/openNURBS/opennurbs_system.h: also provide isfinite(), but comment out both so they can be specifically tested
03:41.53Notify03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 55545 brlcad/trunk/src/libfb/if_mem.c: quell redefinition error for openindiana
03:48.30Notify03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 55546 brlcad/trunk/src/anim/anim_offset.c: don't shadow time
03:49.08Notify03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 55547 brlcad/trunk/src/anim/anim_keyread.c: anothoer time shadow
04:04.00Notify03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 55548 brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man1/en/fb-rle.xml: remove extended characters
04:16.27Notify03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 55549 brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man1/en/fb-rle.xml: indent and format to look for tag errors, but looks clean
04:17.37brlcadstarseeker: I think that's all of them from that log file
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11:11.22Notify03BRL-CAD Wiki:Phoenix * 5303 /wiki/User:Phoenix/GSoc2013/Proposal: /* Links */
11:27.00starseekerbrlcad: I'm not too concerned about the lex issue - the correct answer there is to convert that code to re2c/lemon anyway.
11:27.20starseekerI'll give it another go tonight
11:29.50Notify03BRL-CAD:phoenixyjll * 55550 (brlcad/trunk/include/brep.h brlcad/trunk/src/libbrep/intersect.cpp and 3 others): Fix return value of ON_Intersect (SSI) - returns the number of intersection events (consistent with openNURBS), and add comment to brep.h. Remove the uncessary check of OPENNURBS_PLUS_INC_, and reduce debugging messages.
11:30.32Notify03BRL-CAD Wiki:Phoenix * 5304 /wiki/User:Phoenix/GSoc2013/Proposal: /* Things I have done this year */
11:50.12Notify03BRL-CAD:d_rossberg * 55551 (brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc/Dll/CMakeLists.txt brlcad/trunk/src/libbrep/CMakeLists.txt and 3 others): link openNURBS statically in brlcad.dlldoing so some of the Windows-DLL-import/export-flag logic can be simplified
12:19.05Notify03BRL-CAD:phoenixyjll * 55552 (brlcad/trunk/src/librt/tests/arb_intersect.g =================================================================== (Binary files differ)): Add a test geometry for SSI - surface tree approach is not so suitable for intersection of two plane surfaces, and we need some special handling. It includes transverse intersection curve, tangent intersection curve, tangent intersection point,
12:19.07Notifyoverlap intersection and some other corner cases - a good test case to test to find the problem in and improve the SSI routine.
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15:22.31Notify03BRL-CAD:indianlarry * 55553 brlcad/trunk/src/libged/tables.c: For the 'idents' command skip over non-union combinations above the region level, these members of a combination don't add positively to the defined regions of space and their region ID's will not show up along a shotline unless positively added elsewhere in the hierarchy. This is causing headaches for users generating an association table from our
15:22.33Notify'idents' listing.
15:45.24Notify03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 55554 brlcad/trunk/NEWS: the idents command now skips over non-union combination members above the region level. to quote commit r55553: these members of a combination don't add positively to the defined regions of space and their region ID's will not show up along a shotline unless positively added elsewhere in the hierarchy. This was causing headaches for users generating an association table
15:45.26Notifyfrom our idents listing.
15:49.47Notify03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 55555 brlcad/trunk/NEWS: Aiming to finally release 7.24.0 on Monday! Good times ... r55555 woot!
16:13.57starseekerbugger - getting a regression test failure
16:14.43brlcadstarseeker: which one?
16:14.58Notify03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 55556 brlcad/trunk/include/bu.h: talked with some of our s2 users and we're going to go ahead with the new INFINITY values even though they introduce/expose changes to results. changing infinity results in slightly different bsp cell traversal (grazing case) but the object being reported was always on the shotline to begin with. the decision was to allow this change since the new hits encountered
16:14.58brlcadI'm getting a command not found error on regress-mged
16:14.59Notifyare correct.
16:15.09brlcadwhich is what I was working on yesterday with the cmake changes
16:15.43brlcadsome build system issue, tcl file not found
16:16.03starseekerhmm - this is a bu_bomb of some sort
16:16.42starseekerwipeout in bu_noise_init
16:21.40starseekerah, might be my fault
16:22.27Notify03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 55557 brlcad/trunk/src/librt/tests/CMakeLists.txt: add arb_intersect.g to the CMAKEFILES list.
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16:53.32starseekeryeah, my fault
16:53.54starseekerhad a local change I forgot to revert - regression passing now
16:54.16starseekerbrlcad: you still seeing your error?
16:55.10brlcadwill test, but I presume yes because it was a different  test
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17:52.37brlcadstarseeker: I found the error, it's because of symlinking instead of copy
17:53.04brlcadfortunately not major and workaroundable
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18:37.29Notify03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 55558 brlcad/trunk/src/sig/bw-d.c: implement -h, -?
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19:45.58Notify03BRL-CAD Wiki:Jasleen Kaur * 5307 /wiki/User:Jasleen_Kaur:
19:51.54brlcadgdb --args bin/nirt -xffffffff -b -e "units in; xyz -181.91 0 96; dir -1 0 0; s; q;" ../infbug.g tube
19:52.39Notify03BRL-CAD Wiki:Jasleen Kaur * 5308 /wiki/User:Jasleen_Kaur:
19:54.21starseekerwoot - finally, someone other than Apple getting into high PPI screens - both Google and Toshiba are getting into the game (finally)
19:54.57starseeker12.85" 2560x1700 :-)
19:56.23Notify03BRL-CAD Wiki:Jasleen Kaur * 5309 /wiki/User:Jasleen_Kaur:
20:01.28jasleenbrlcad: Is my approach of work wrong?
20:06.58Notify03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 55559 brlcad/trunk/src/sig/bw-d.c: supply 'bad argument' message for arguments other than the prescribed ones
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20:27.14Notify03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 55560 brlcad/trunk/src/fb/bw-fb.c: supplied h and ? as help flags; converted old h to H because the workaround would require BOTH s and S in place of old h
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20:58.07starseekerdrools... a 3:2 aspect ratio on a truly high DPI screen... kinda ironic that the ultimate programmers laptop screen is in a machine that comes with such a locked-down OS
21:04.34mpictorstarseeker: slightly higher resolution than the nexus 10 http://bergie.iki.fi/files/nexus10-shell.png
21:05.16starseekergrins - now *that's* what laptop screenshots *should* look like
21:05.38mpictorhe claims to like it, but of course it's limited to wifi since he's compiling on a desktop
21:05.40mpictorhttp://bergie.iki.fi/blog/six-weeks-working-android/
21:06.21mpictoryea... if only those buttons at the bottom didn't waste soooo much space!
21:06.57starseekerthat's why the reports that you can run Ubuntu on the chromebook pixel make it interesting
21:07.08starseekerfluxbox + gkrellm for the win
21:07.18mpictorhuh. didn't realize that was possible
21:07.50starseekerhttp://lifehacker.com/how-to-install-linux-on-a-chromebook-and-unlock-its-ful-509039343
21:07.50mpictornot too surprising since google uses 100% goobuntu internally
21:08.57starseekerwouldn't be worth squat with just Chrom OS, but a full Linux distribution makes it an entirely different proposition
21:08.59``Erikstarseeker: what machine has the 3:2 high resolution?
21:09.07starseekerChromebook Pixel
21:09.38starseekerhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromebook_Pixel
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21:09.48``Erikhm, saw the samsung one a couple days ago, but I think it's 16:9 or something
21:10.10starseekeryeah, this sucker is apperently the ultimate in laptop screens for the moment
21:10.21``Eriktouch screen, even
21:10.30``Erika bazillion pixels hidden by smudges
21:11.00starseekerTorvalds himself likes it, so it's a pretty good candidate for proper Linux support:  http://www.zdnet.com/chromebooks-biggest-fan-linus-torvalds-7000012842/
21:11.28mpictormy n10 is 2560x1600, and I really don't notice smudges on it
21:11.44starseekeris trying to think of the last time he saw *any* laptop screen with a 3:2 ratio...
21:12.54starseekernot what google designed it for, but that has "programming laptop" written all over it (given the proper OS)
21:13.44starseekeris not a fan of "short and wide" in laptop screens - or desktop either, come to think of it
21:14.21mpictorI *hate* 16:9
21:14.45``Erik<-- still on an old macbook with 1280x800, so *shrug* all of 'em look good
21:16.03starseeker<snort> - ``Erik, with your approach to hardware I'm surprised you're not staring at an old green CRT and wondering what all the fuss is about with this "full color" thing
21:16.42starseeker*likes* being able to have a zillion terminals and documents open at once without them overlapping
21:18.06starseekerfunny how things change - these days $1,500 is considered a very expensive laptop.  If you factor in inflation especially, you don't have to go back so far before that wouldn't have gotten you much of anything
21:18.07``ErikI, um, actually do still have a monochrome vga display somewhere... 640x400!
21:19.14starseekerhands ``Erik +3 nerd points - touchée
21:19.37starseekerwhat's its power consumption like?
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21:20.03``ErikI don't think this laptop can hold a number that big
21:20.11starseekerheh
21:20.39``Erikbut ya throw the big rocker switch and it does make an impressive 'bzzt'
21:21.39``Erikmy next laptop might still be a mac, mostly due to xcode/ios
21:22.20starseekernods - yeah, that's the logical platform for that work
21:23.20mpictorI've been using KDevelop for a couple years. It has improved drastically from the 3.x versions. Never tried xcode, but I do hear that it's good.
21:23.46starseekeris still quite fond of the Mac retina machines - without them, no one would be pushing PPI on laptop screens at all
21:24.27starseekerhowever annoying the Mac "walled garden" approach may be, they do at least force the industry to keep moving
21:24.45mpictorthat they do
21:25.22starseekermpictor: I poked at KDevelop once or twice - I probably should look at it again, I understand they have pretty good CMake support
21:26.33mpictoryour relative path commit make kdevelop crash, but they fixed it within a couple days
21:26.45starseekerheh - oops
21:27.12starseekerwonder what would happen with the full BRL-CAD cmake build logic
21:27.22starseekerthat's quite a bit more gnarly
21:27.57mpictortheir cmake support is pretty good, but they do parse the files themselves - so things don't match 100%
21:28.20mpictorI'd try it myself, but you guys haven't moved to git yet
21:28.20starseekerah - yeah, now that you say that I remember a developer discussing that with them on the CMake list
21:28.25mpictorsvn is slooooooooow
21:28.46starseekermpictor: heh - actually, things got a lot better in that regard now that sf.net has upgraded things
21:33.02mpictoris impressed
21:33.26mpictorI thought they'd _never_ upgrade
21:33.58mpictorBTW, your twitter url is invalid at http://sourceforge.net/projects/brlcad/
21:52.42Notify03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 55561 brlcad/trunk/src/util/bw-imp.c: implement h and ? as help flags; old h is replaced by '-s 1024'
21:53.50kesha_Read this. http://opensource.com/government/13/2/bug-fix-day Awesome!! :)
21:56.26Notify03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 55562 brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man1/en/bw-imp.xml: change the man page for bw-imp; old h has been removed
22:26.23``Erikmpictor: http://brlcad.org/brlcad.git/  
22:26.25brlcadmpictor: thanks, will fix
22:28.22``Erikhuh, doesn't seem to have updated since april 22 O.o
22:37.08``Erikheh http://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/scifi/dalek-bottom-british-pond-biding-time.html
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